Raiders finally tell the truth regarding their feelings on Derek Carr

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The Raiders are committed to Derek Carr. Unless they aren’t.

The more accurate statement would be “until they aren’t,” because G.M. Mike Mayock made it clear on Thursday that Carr will continue as the team’s quarterback for as long as the team believe that it’s in the team’s best interests to do so.

“Derek Carr is a franchise quarterback, and we believe that,” Mayock said Thursday. “Beyond that, just like at any other position, we’re going to do our due diligence. If we found somebody we liked better, or thought had a bigger upside, you’ve got to do the right thing for the organization.”

That’s the closest anyone with the Raiders has come to telling the truth regarding the manner in which the Raiders regard Carr. And that may be news to Carr, who apparently bristled via Twitter at the mere news of a private workout with incoming rookie Kyler Murray and who presumably has received far different messages from Gruden privately.

Indeed, Gruden has sent far different messages regarding Carr publicly.

He’s our franchise quarterback. Let me make that clear,” Gruden said at the Scouting Combine in February.

I’m glad he’s our quarterback,” Gruden said during the 2018 season, after Gruden and Carr engaged in a heated sideline exchange.

“Yeah, he’s going to be our quarterback,” Gruden said last month, at the annual league meetings. “I’m not going to address all the rumors. I could care less about the rumors, you know?”

But the rumors linger, and Mayock’s comments will do nothing to quell them. Mayock could have said that, for example, the Raiders worked out Murray and Dwayne Haskins so that the Raiders would be able to properly value those players in the event an opportunity arises to trade the right to draft one of both of them, by moving down in round one from the fourth overall pick. Mayock didn’t say that, however. He said that the Raiders are looking at alternatives to Carr because “[i]f we found somebody we liked better, or thought had a bigger upside, you’ve got to do the right thing for the organization.”

So, basically, the Raiders like Carr enough to keep him. Until they find someone they like better. And that could happen in as soon as 13 days, when the Raiders use any of the three first-round picks they hold in the 2019 draft.

If there was any ambiguity about that before, there shouldn’t be now. Meanwhile, I’m going to go check Carr’s Twitter feed.

55 responses to “Raiders finally tell the truth regarding their feelings on Derek Carr

  1. Carr will be the Raider’s QB in ’19 as his dead-money hit is over $27Mil if they trade or cut him. His 2020 cap hit is only $5Mil, so for the Raiders to draft his replacement and give him a year to acclimate wouldn’t be an outrageous situation. Carr is still better than some starters in the NFL so he’ll find a new home, if necessary.

  2. To be fair Carr blows hot and cold and if you were the Raider’s GM, wouldn’t you be looking to draft a top QB ?

  3. They should, and I think they will, give Carr this final season in Oakland. If he brings his A game, then great- they have their guy! If he falls on his face, also great- they’ll have another top 5 pick to grab one of next year’s top QBs in what is said to be a better QB draft class anyway.

  4. Belichick benched franchise QB Drew Bledsoe for a 6th-round QB, some guy named Brady. And you can bet he’ll do the same AGAIN today if he thinks someone else is better.

    That is the only way to run a team.

  5. Not exactly news. This is what everyone thought from day 1: Gruden didn’t draft him so there’s no investment and it was questionable how Carr would react to Gruden’s style. Add in Carr’s salary and the trend towards young QBs on their first contracts to build a team around, this is almost as obvious as the Cardinals taking Murray with the first pick.

  6. Non-story. This is common practice in just about every industry. Where I work; if we manufacture a product at 90% yields, that doesn’t me we sit pat. We are always looking to improve our yield and productivity no matter how good we already have it. Another example of nearly everyone doing exactly as Mayock said … when the next new iPhone (or Galaxy) comes out, Many people will trade in there perfectly good previous year model for the newer better phone.

  7. “…Carr will continue as the team’s quarterback for as long as the team believe that it’s in the team’s best interests to do so.”

    That’s a given across the league for the most part, is it not?

  8. akira1971 says:
    April 12, 2019 at 11:17 am

    Belichick benched franchise QB Drew Bledsoe for a 6th-round QB, some guy named Brady. And you can bet he’ll do the same AGAIN today if he thinks someone else is better.

    That is the only way to run a team.
    ===================================================================
    Except what you are saying isn’t true. Bledsoe lost his job due to a severe lung injury in a game in which Bledsoe started. Brady was his back up until Bledsoe was injured, he wasn’t benched.

  9. It wasn’t that long ago that Carr was a coveted draft pick. Certainly the best out of his class. Bortles, Manziel and Bridgewater were picked ahead of him.
    The next year it was Winston and Mariota, 1 & 2 overall. I would take Carr over either of these two.

    When it comes to quality on the field, draft order means a lot less than the dream. The only thing that seems to be the great equalizer is getting a guy on a five year rookie deal is way better than a second contract guy. Teams seem prepared to step way back to get that cheaper player.

  10. I think Oakland is going to trade up to that #1 spot and take Murray. It’s already been reported that Oakland offered 4 & 24 to AZ to move up to #1 overall but Arizona hasn’t made up their mind what they’re going to do yet. I think Oakland ends up getting up to #1 and Murray becomes a Raider. With the Raiders moving to Vegas a new young franchise QB is just the spark the Raiders need to drive up excitement and sell more tickets in Vegas.

  11. No GM in the league tells the media why they are doing what they do in regards to the draft. Get real. You are the biggest pot-stirrer around with all your drama. There is nothing abnormal about this situation. If Derek Carr was performing at an elite level, there would be no QB talk. He’s not, so the door is always open for a better option. End of story. This is the true of every team in the league. Do you think players like Brees, Rodgers, Brady, etc. EVER have to look over their shoulder? No, because they are clearly elite.

  12. All I’ll say is that Derek Carr reminds me so much of an ex-girlfriend I once went out with, She was nice enough to want to hang out and do stuff with but was in no way good enough in asking for hands in marriage.

    Unfortunately a lot of GM’s know this but delay the inevitable in fear they might not get close to a comparable replacement, My thing is if these teams continue to lose with these barely good to average QB’s then it shouldn’t matter to move off from them, What’s the worse that can happen you might save yourself millions in cap space and actually stumble upon that franchise guy you were always looking for.

  13. @ ravenmadnky

    That’s why I’ve been saying for a while the 2019 draft will start off with a block-buster 3-way trade, here’s the way I think it’ll go:

    Welcome to the 2019 NFL Draft and with the 1st overall pick we have a 3 way trade!
    Oakland trades Carr to Miami for their 13th overall and another pick and the Raiders trade 2 of their four 1st rounders to Arizona for the 1st overall and with the 1st overall pick in the 2019 Draft the Raiders select Kyler Murray QB!

    For the Cards to let Rosen go and draft Murray it’d set the team back another 2-3yrs and that’d be like giving up 3 picks and a player just to get Murray, last years 10th and the two picks(79th, 152nd) they packaged together with the 15th overall to move up and now they’d be giving up Rosen who they took at 10th.

    I mean throwing away three draft picks and a player from last years draft just to get Murray who is unproven with just 14 starts, am I the only one that thinks that MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE?

    Not to mention it’d be like the Raiders are getting Murray for next to nothing, a couple of draft picks they acquired trading players they couldn’t afford to keep and they’d still have two 1st rounders. And we all know how Gruden likes to build his own team.

  14. Don’t reach on a QB or give up those extra picks to move up. Build the D through the draft. They spent the offseason giving Carr weapons, I expect them to give him the year to prove himself. My guess is that Derek isn’t the guy. Carr’s contract is easier to get out of next offseason. Raiders also have 2 1st round picks next year so they could move up and snag a guy next year if they need to. They’ll probably be picking in the top 10-12 again anyway.

  15. If they replace Carr with Murray or Haskins when their defense is garbage, I am gone after 44 years, get Carr a RB, an online that protects and a D that doesn’t get torched constantly and he’ll be back to his pro bowl form

  16. When Carr had talent around him he succeeded, The Raiders got rid of Murray and picked up that bum Lynch. Trade Carr and pick up Murray, that would be great, signed Broncos Country.

  17. mumfio says:
    April 12, 2019 at 11:34 am
    akira1971 says:
    April 12, 2019 at 11:17 am

    Belichick benched franchise QB Drew Bledsoe for a 6th-round QB, some guy named Brady. And you can bet he’ll do the same AGAIN today if he thinks someone else is better.

    That is the only way to run a team.
    ===================================================================
    Except what you are saying isn’t true. Bledsoe lost his job due to a severe lung injury in a game in which Bledsoe started. Brady was his back up until Bledsoe was injured, he wasn’t benched.
    ===================================================================
    Except Bledsoe came back before the end of the season as was named backup to Brady. Hence, Bledsoe was benched in favor of Brady.

  18. So many fans came to the defense of Carr when I said he gets top level QB love and a pass from the media on bad play but his stats arent even at the level of an Alex Smith. He seems like a good person and maybe middle of the pack starter that lacks a deep ball.

    Nothing wrong with Mayock looking for something equal that cost you 20 plus million dollars.

  19. mumfio says: “Except what you are saying isn’t true. Bledsoe lost his job due to a severe lung injury in a game in which Bledsoe started. Brady was his back up until Bledsoe was injured, he wasn’t benched.”
    ———————-

    Bledsoe was injured Week 2 and was fully cleared and practicing by Week 9. However, Belichick told Bledsoe (who just signed a record 10yr, $103m contract) that Brady would remain the starter for the rest of the year. So yes, Belichick has no problem benching even the franchise QB if another player was playing better.

  20. It’s critical having a quarterback who isn’t afraid of his own shadow. Carr plays scared which makes him EXPENDABLE! You want any chance of competing with KC you better employ someone with high octane under center.

  21. Name one team that isn’t committed to a player “until they aren’t”? One guy doesn’t make a team, unless you are playing fantasy. Each player can make a team play better, but that’s it. Great parts and lots of pieces allow for any organization to flourish. Carr is good, he can’t do it by himself. He cant block, he cant catch, he cant play defense or kick field goals. It’s a fallacy to believe anyone can.

    The Raiders are a much different team than say the Patriots, Eagles, Seahawks, Kansas City and even the Chargers and Rams. Not because of one guy, but because of dozens of guys.

  22. Great Mayock presser. Nothing has changed. They are doing what they should be doing, scouting the players in the draft. Mayock also said Gruden loves QBs and will evaluate all of them every year.

  23. Let me confuse you with some facts ??
    Cooper and Crabtree lead the league in drops for two years
    The Raiders had a beat up oline and no #1 receiver last season
    Carr still threw 1.044 yards
    We improved our oline and definitely our receiving core this season
    Its Carr’s prove it year and I’m sure he will put up the numbers again
    We need to pick all defense with our three 1st rounders

    Gruden and Mayock will bring the Raiders back

  24. Seems like yesterday, when football was such an easy game to play, Geeshm, Carrreck has a career winning percentage of about .400. Slightly better than Reggie McKenizie. That’s what I love about Raider Nation. They can talk themselves into anything!

  25. jimmypx says:
    April 12, 2019 at 11:14 am
    To be fair Carr blows hot and cold and if you were the Raider’s GM, wouldn’t you be looking to draft a top QB ?
    ===================================================================

    Carr is as good as his O Line.

    Block fo rhim, he is great. Dont, who is?

  26. just hoping there is a run on QB’s before we go at 4….Keep talking up Murray, Haskins, Drew Lock, etc….to much talent on the defensive side of the ball in this years draft . Can’t pass that up….besides Gruden loves Hebert, and has 2 # 1’a again next year…Makes more sense next year if they are going to pull the trigger on a QB.

  27. So let me get this straight we trade the best pass rusher in the league so we can stack up picks and draft a quarterback im not buying it. If that’s the case why didn’t we trade Carr last year lock up Khalil Mack build around him defensively we probably still have the same pick in the draft take the qb. I know Carr would not have brought the value Mack did but at least we would not be shocked we were drafting a qb this year. If Gruden is smart yeah trade up in the draft let’s draft two defensive studs send both our picks in the 20s plus a 3rd move up to 2nd or 3rd take Bosa,Allen,Williams or White any of them pair we need defense not a rookie qb. RN4L….

  28. Jon just loves Carr to pieces he is the greatest QB of all times except for……. and… also …

  29. I think the biggest blunder the Raiders made was to get rid of Bill Musgrave. Under his tutelage, Carr was an MPV candidate and lighting it up. We all saw how he regressed under Todd Downing, who was supposed to be this rising star in coaching, but flopped big time. Carr isn’t perfecf, but I think he’s gotten a raw deal of late and should at least be given a fair chance to successfully lead the team again.

  30. So what do you want them to say, he’s our guy no matter what for as long as he wants to play? Ask Giants fans how that’s working out.

  31. LOL, this reminds me of Bears press conferences, when every single day, for about three years, Lovie Smith would say at least five times … “Rex Grossman is my quarterback”.

  32. akira1971 says:
    April 12, 2019 at 11:17 am
    Belichick benched franchise QB Drew Bledsoe for a 6th-round QB, some guy named Brady. And you can bet he’ll do the same AGAIN today if he thinks someone else is better.

    That is the only way to run a team.

    ==========================================================================================

    Well…no. Drew Bledsoe had one of his organs ruptured by a vicious hit and Brady started playing. Trust me, I was at a game that season in their old stadium where the Pats fans all around me were talking about how Brady sucks and they can’t wait to get Drew back. They were also chanting “Yankees Suck!” in Overtime to someone with a Yankees hat on. Pats fans are the Donald Trump of the NFL. Have so much, deserve none of it, know next to nothing about history.

  33. The NFL is becoming “Keeping Up With The Kardashian’s” of sports. He said this. He had no comment. He can’t stay off social media. He said he was trade bait when nobody else will take his contract. Bla Bla Bla. Is this the NFL or POP CANDY?

  34. Im a big DC fan. All this “Carr sucks” stuff is from uniformed people.
    2017 – He had to play in Todd Downing pee wee level offense. Anyone who understands football could see his offense had no rhyme or reason. Nothing set up anything else. the leagues def cords had Downing figured out by week 3.
    2018 – Grudens offense isnt exactly easy. Rich Gannon struggled his 1st season with grunden, but had a MUCH better defense and talent around him. Look who DC had to throw to. Inconsistent Cooper, a slow Nelsen, a 7th round practice squad guy, only decent options were Cook and Richard. His O-line gets banged up, and has 2 rookie tackles to protect him. Still throws for 4000 yards and 19 TDs. His defense had 13 sacks 13 !!
    2019 – 2nd season in Grudens offense with great talent at WR, a good tackle in Brown… Defense will be better (couldnt be much worse then last season)
    Derek Carr will have a career year, and he will lead the Oakland Raiders into the play-offs

  35. There are 32 teams that all think the same way with regards to their QB. Whoever their guy is right now, will continue to be their guy until someone comes along that’s better. I’ve been paying attention to pro football for about 50 years and I’ve never heard a team say they’re trying to replace their current starting QB. Some things, I guess, don’t need to be said. Jon Gruden won a super bowl with Brad Johnson, and with a team that hadn’t won a playoff games the previous two years, and only one playoff win the previous four years. So it ain’t like Gruden needs Tom Brady or Joe Montana to win a super bowl. Derek Carr is plenty good enough, but if you can upgrade that position, only a fool would choose not to do so.

  36. mumfio says:
    April 12, 2019 at 11:34 am
    akira1971 says:
    April 12, 2019 at 11:17 am
    Belichick benched franchise QB Drew Bledsoe for a 6th-round QB, some guy named Brady. And you can bet he’ll do the same AGAIN today if he thinks someone else is better.
    That is the only way to run a team.
    ===================================================================
    Except what you are saying isn’t true. Bledsoe lost his job due to a severe lung injury in a game in which Bledsoe started. Brady was his back up until Bledsoe was injured, he wasn’t benched.
    ==========================================================================================================
    But he is correct !! Bledsoe was not re-installed as the starter, Brady continued and Bledsoe was traded to the Cowboys !! Bledsoe wasn’t “pulled or benched” for bad play, but he was benched after Brady impressed and took over the team !

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