Favre says Rodgers and McCarthy should have won more

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Brett Favre believes Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy winning only one Super Bowl ring in their 11 seasons together was a disappointment.

Favre, who was traded out of Green Bay in 2008, paving the way for the Rodgers-McCarthy run, told TMZ.com that he thinks the recent report at BleacherReport.com describing the rift between Rodgers and McCarthy makes clear that they should have had more success together than they did.

“I will say this: One of the things I agree on in that article is, they really should have won more,” Favre said. “For whatever reason they didn’t. They were that good, and they had the best player in the game, I just felt like they should have won more.”

The two won plenty together, making the playoffs for eight consecutive seasons. But they only got to the Super Bowl once, and they’ve missed the playoffs the last two seasons, leading to McCarthy’s departure. When Rodgers and McCarthy won their first Super Bowl together after the 2010 season, some thought they’d be the best team in the NFL for the decade to come. That didn’t happen.

120 responses to “Favre says Rodgers and McCarthy should have won more

  1. Packers would not have won even one SB if Cutler had not been injured in the NFC Chamoionship game. Just sayin!

  2. “The Best Player in the Game” and his coach had the misfortune of playing at the same time as the best team in the game. That didn’t help…

  3. Not a packers fan but that’s the pot calling the kettle black. 1 superbowl a piece sounds about right.

  4. Best player in football? If you are, at some point you have to produce. The best player is a 40ish old man throwing darts in New England and running out of fingers for rings.

  5. They did however watch the Patriots again dominate the decade without the ‘best’ player. BB is definitely the reason for the Patriots success

  6. Same with Brees and Payton, same with Wilson and Carrol, same with Marino and Shula, etc., etc.

  7. Look, Favre did a lot for the Packers. Without him and Reggie White, they could still be stuck in the doldrums of the 70s and 80s. That said, the Packers could have won more, had Favre not resorted to tossing water balloons up in the air, and countless other ill-advised playground, sandlot interceptions, with the season on the line. So, he was culpable, too.

  8. Yep but too bad!
    Best moment was when Favre and the Vikings beat AR-McCarthy and the Cheese!

  9. AR isn’t going to be happy about this, but it’s the truth.

    On the other hand, maybe Favre should have won more too

  10. Favre isn’t wrong. It is a little ironic considering the same was thought about The Holmgren Years. In fact, with onnly one title, Ron Wolf called them a “fart in the wind”

  11. And every Packer fan agrees with you Brett. I place more blame though on Thompson for that, minus the fact McCarthy stuck with Capers way too long

  12. He’s right but the same could be said about him too. When you look back and see that between the two of them only 2 Super Bowl wins as of now, has to be frustrating for their fans. Granted it’s two more than other teams but knowing that they had two of the best and only came away with 2 Championships has to be a disappointment.

  13. They’d have needed to beat Brady to do that (the real best player of the era. Montana to Rodger’s Marino). One factor people ignore. Rodger’s has been injury prone.

  14. Well they didn’t win more because Rodgers isn’t clutch. Yeah, one Super Bowl win. What else has he really done?

  15. Brett Favre has a 160-93 (.632) record in GB with one SB. Aaron Rodgers is 100-57-1 (.636) record in GB with one SB.

    Favre had better RBs and better defense overall, but a winning percentage over .600 is pretty good for both. There’s 31 other teams fighting for the SB each with great players too, so it’s not like it’s easy to win. Other than Brady, you can pretty much say other guys “should” have won more too (Brees, Pitts, Legion of Boom, etc).

  16. Hey Brett, there are 1000s of people who can’t believe you only win a single title also. Maybe if you hadn’t choked against the cowboys all those times in the playoffs you and Holmgren would’ve won more than one too.

  17. Ha! Favre has no room to talk. When Ron Wolf, Mike Holmgren, and Favre were in Green Bay, they had more talent on many of those teams than the Ted Thompson, Mike McCarthy, and Aaron Rodgers teams have had, yet they only won one more Super Bowl. And — they lost one in which they were the heavy favorites!

  18. I’d like to see if Favre would’ve done any better if he had that annoying “Discount Double check” guy constantly stalking him like Rodgers has had to deal with over the years.

  19. Change the names to Favre and Holmgrem should have won more than one. I appreciate everything Brett did in GB but I also remembered every terrible interception that lost a playoff game.

  20. Says the person with only one super bowl himself and multiple game losing interceptions in the playoffs

  21. Well, Brett, I think you should have at least won that second Super Bowl you and Holmgren were in. I’d like to hear his thoughts on that.

  22. That’s because McCarthy’s play calling, and Rodgers ability to take over a game just weren’t good enough. Is Rodgers good, yes he is. Is he Tom Brady or Peyton Manning good, no. Those guys turned mediocre players into superstars, whereas Rodgers had very good, and proven receivers at his disposal and look where that led him.

  23. I honestly think Aaron Rodgers is not quite the all time talent many say…technically he can throw the ball, but I can think of at least 3 or 4 just as good if not better…running ability? Please…and fragile physically and mentally…sorry, guy is a cancer

  24. The only thing worse would have been to have seen Brent Farve throw 5-6 picks per game the past 10 years.

  25. Vikings fan here and yes they should have won more. But you should have too Brett. I have always loved/hated Favre and Rodgers but they are both HOF guys. Aaron is whinny but elite never the less. Brett is calling the kettle black.

  26. After the Favre pick to Tracy Porter that kept the Vikings out of the Superbowl, Paul Allen shrieked “BUT YOU CAN TAKE A KNEE, AND TRY A 55 YARD FIELD GOAL!!! THIS IS NOT DETROIT MAN, THIS IS THE SUPERBOWL!!!”

    I still laugh every time.

  27. chris1cat says:
    April 13, 2019 at 7:14 am
    Yep but too bad!
    Best moment was when Favre and the Vikings beat AR-McCarthy and the Cheese!
    ________

    Nah….the best moment was the following year, as Aaron Rodgers was hoisting the Lombardi Trophy and Clay Matthews was slinging the Championship belt over his shoulder.
    Leave it to a Barney fan to cherish a win over the Packers.
    It’s always THEIR Super Bowl. skoLOL!!!

  28. A lot of teams should’ve won more. The Vikings have had more quarterbacks in the HOF, more All-Pro quarterbacks, and more ProBowl designees than the Packers. Their trolls are here spewing their loser rants.

    What’s their excuse?

  29. jimnaizeeum says:
    April 13, 2019 at 7:00 am
    Same with Brees and Payton, same with Wilson and Carrol, same with Marino and Shula, etc., etc.

    Seconded. The bottom line is this: In the NFL it’s very hard to get to a Super Bowl, much less win one and winning more than one is damned impressive. That’s why any multiple winners automatically go to the top of the list.

  30. dabears62 says:
    April 13, 2019 at 6:34 am
    Packers would not have won even one SB if Cutler had not been injured in the NFC Chamoionship game. Just sayin!
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    You’re kidding right? Charles Woodson was Cutlers favorite receiver!!!

  31. As the late, great Bud Grant used to famously say, “we didn’t win any Superbowls, but probably should have won at least 2 – just by the law of averages”.

  32. In Rodgers defense, he rarely had a loaded TEAM. Unlike Brett, who had a lot of really good defenses on his team during his career with the packers. Rodgers basically has to win a shootout for his team to have a chance.

  33. Before you speak Brett, look in the mirror. You’re team had more talent, had a better defense, better coaches, and a better GM. You should have one more Super Bowls.

  34. filthymcnasty3 says:
    April 13, 2019 at 10:36 am
    As the late, great Bud Grant used to famously say, “we didn’t win any Superbowls, but probably should have won at least 2 – just by the law of averages”

    @@@@@@@@@@@@

    As the late great Forrest Gregg used to famously say. “ I agree with Brett”.

  35. Ted Thompson’s whole career as a draft guru is defined by Rogers falling into his lap.
    Drafted too many “tweeners” or guys he considered to have high upsides, but not bona fide players, which is why so many late round picks or street FA’s outperformed those “draft steals”. Add to that his reluctance to obtain much of any talent via free agency, and you end up with a one-man team.

  36. I think it is funny that everyone is piling on Favre for saying Rodgers should have won more. No one asked him whether they should have won more when he was there, but I would bet the farm that his answer would have been “should we have won more when I was there? Maybe.”

  37. chris1cat says:
    April 13, 2019 at 7:14 am
    Yep but too bad!
    Best moment was when Favre and the Vikings beat AR-McCarthy and the Cheese!

    /////

    My best moment was when Rodgers and the Packers clobbered the Vikings the next year and closed the door on Favre’s career by proving he made an I’ll advised decision to try and make a winner out of loserville.

  38. aarons444 says:
    April 13, 2019 at 8:58 am
    Favre/Holmgren >>>>>> Rodgers/McCarthy

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    Rodgers/Holmgren could have been all time greatest.

  39. I guess my memories of Farvre are a little different than some. He threw a horrible last pass for Minnesota but I remember him giving his team a chance to win every game. The description of him costing the Packers all kinds of wins by throwing random bad passes is ridiculous. He wasn’t perfect but he made plays and won a lot of games.

  40. Just as we saved you from a lifetime of listening to pats fans crow about an undefeated season, you can also thank us for stopping canoe Rodgers from getting the packers dynasty kickstarted. Recall, the year after they won their one Sb, we beat them in 2011 in their own house as a 15-1 top seed.

    In closing… start treating the giants and their fans better because we saved you TWICE!! You’re welcome.

  41. Ted Thompson’s whole career as a draft guru is defined by Rogers falling into his lap.
    =====

    Steve Hutchinson.. perennial All-Pro, almost a certainty for the HOF
    Shaun Alexander – MVP, All-Pro, record setting 2005

    Nick Collins – All-Pro
    Josh Sitton – All-Pro
    David Bakhtiari – All-Pro, best LT in football right now
    Clay Matthews – All-Pro
    Jordy Nelson – All-Pro
    HHC-D – All-Pro (inexplicable perhaps, but true..)

    I lost count at 8 Pro Bowlers…

    .. and theres no way to know who his guys were from the early-mid 90s Packers, but rest assured, there were probably 3 or 4 gems there.

  42. Rodgers/Holmgren could have been all time greatest.
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    Its a shame Holmgren and Wolf couldn’t co-exist awhile longer.

    1999-??? would have looked a whole lot different.

  43. thecape15 says:
    April 13, 2019 at 11:57 am
    Rodgers/Holmgren could have been all time greatest.

    ———/////——

    Seriously????

    The greatest are on your TV.

    BB/TB

    /////

    Sure they are.

    It should have been clear I was speaking hypothetically.

    I guess the Patriot internet defense force has arrived. Who wins that much and still feels slighted?

  44. Not really. Rodgers covered up a lot of deficiencies of that team for a long time. It’s no coincidence that the one time they had a dominant defense that they won.

  45. OK there KING of the INTs!

    A record that’ll never be touched!

    A record that no one wants to touch!

  46. I’ve come to hate the trend in sports talk about players and teams that “should” have won more. I’d argue that teams win the exact number of games and titles that they “should” have won, that’s why they play the games.

    While we’re at it, saying that a team/player/coach “only” won one Super Bowl is kind of petty as well. Winning a Super Bowl is very difficult; only one team out of 32 is going to do it in a given year. The vast majority of starting quarterbacks never even make it to a Super Bowl, much less win one.

    Basically, since all athletes come up short more often than they finish as champions, you could say that any of them “should” have won more. But it means nothing.

  47. dabears62 says:
    April 13, 2019 at 6:34 am

    Packers would not have won even one SB if Cutler had not been injured in the NFC Chamoionship game. Just sayin!
    ____________________________________

    Really??? Um, no. The Packers’ defense was better than the Bears’ defense in 2010, and they had to stick it to Favre, anyways, which they did. The Bears were just a nuisance and in the way, so out you went. Favre the Viking, throws a pick to Tracy Porter and one year later, Rodgers is holding the Lombardi trophy. So great. Couldn’t make it up if I tried, LOL.

  48. contra74 says:

    10 years of pre-season championships don’t count anymore?
    ………………………………………………………………………………

    If you would, regale us with the glorious championship history of the team that wears lavender and yellow.

  49. danimal1974

    I’ve come to hate the trend in sports talk about players and teams that “should” have won more. I’d argue that teams win the exact number of games and titles that they “should” have won, that’s why they play the games.
    __________________________________________________________

    I agree 100%!

    As Bill Parcells once said “YOU ARE WHAT YOUR RECORD SAYS YOU ARE”!

  50. That’s the problem with some teams. You never know who’s going to show up and play to their potential.

  51. This same argument can be applied to a lot of duos. How about Dungy and Manning in Indy? Tons of playoffs appearances, one Super Bowl win. Tartenton and Grant: no Super Bowl wins. Brees and Payton: one Super Bowl win.

    Just proves that winning the Super Bowl is REALLY hard. Even for the best. The fact that they’re singling out these two is nonsense.

  52. and maybe Favre/Holmgren/McCarthy should have won more. Overall I don’t think I should complain about my last quarter century of following the Packers. Almost every franchise would trade places with us.

  53. I honestly believe the best “playing” AN I’ve ever seen “play” was Dan Marino. (Im not from Miami, don’t even like the team.) Moreover his coach was Don Shula who had coached the NFLs only undefeated team – with a mostly NONelite squad (like today’s Patriots.) And, Marino was a good clutch player too. In fact, he had the NFL’s only win vs the 85 Bears (who DESTROYED everyone else they played.)

    Shows just how hard it really is.

  54. I honestly believe the best “playing” QB I’ve ever seen “play” was Dan Marino. (Im not from Miami, don’t even like the team.) Moreover his coach was Don Shula who had coached the NFLs only undefeated team – with a mostly NONelite squad (like today’s Patriots.) And, Marino was a good clutch player too. In fact, he had the NFL’s only win vs the 85 Bears (who DESTROYED everyone else they played.)

    Shows just how hard it really is.

  55. The best player in the game is not one who is 1-37 against teams with a winning record when trailing by at least a single point in the 4th quarter. Matt Ryan, Cam Newton, Matthew Stafford, Joe Flacco, Russell Wilson, Alex Smith, Andrew Luck, and others have more 4th quarter comebacks than Rodgers. These same players have more game-winning drives as well. Can you say overrated? Rodgers has thrown 4 touchdowns to 5 interceptions in career NFC championship games. He won a super bowl with a scoring offense ranked 10th. Brady never won one super bowl with a scoring offense ranked that low.

    He never had a 5,000 yard season, never threw 6 touchdown passes in a single playoff game, never had a 153.8 perfect passer-rating game, and never threw 5 touchdown passes in a single quarter. Tom Brady accomplished all of this with scrub players and castoffs offensively. He had Randy Moss for two healthy seasons max, and won Super Bowl LI without Gronk. Rodgers started his career in the softest era of professional football in the post Carson Palmer and Bill Polian rule changes era. When Brady and Peyton accumulated stats earlier in their careers, quarterbacks could get sacked below their knees.

  56. While I am no Brett Fav-ray fan, he didn’t create an offensive system that benefited almost solely on getting free yards via exploiting the cheese cheater loophole on presnap defensive penalties. Fav-ray played real football. I’m not sure what Erwin Wawgers plays but it is not professional football – it is all a mirage – he cannot run a real offense that gets yards by actually earning them.

  57. Can people stop with the notion that Aaron Rodgers is clutch? Yes, he threw some amazing hail mary throws but his stats of 4th quarter comebacks are only 14 games and that rank him… tied at 75! Peyton Manning tops the list at 43 games and Brady is in second at 35 games. Rodgers is a long way from approaching that. He does have all the highlight reels but, again, he’s currently at 75.

  58. If you read the whole thing, it’s pretty clear that Favre is actually defending Rodgers and basically laying the blame at the feet of McCarthy (and probably Ted Thompson as well). Why else would he call Rodgers “the best player in the game”?

    Favre still holds some animosity over McCarthy and Thompson for the way things ended for him in Green Bay, but has patched things up with Rodgers. Just listen to Rodgers on Favre’s radio show last fall on SiriusXM.

  59. Says the guy who probably blew more big games with boneheaded picks in the history of the NFL…..

  60. Cleon Ross says:
    April 13, 2019 at 6:41 am
    Not a packers fan but that’s the pot calling the kettle black. 1 superbowl a piece sounds about right.
    ———————————————————————————————
    Until you stack them up to the six that Brady has.

  61. thecape15 says:
    April 13, 2019 at 12:39 pm
    Who wins that much and still feels slighted?

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    Not slighted. Just a correction..

    /////

    So your correcting a hypothetical statement?

    That’s the internet version of little man syndrome. Just stop already.

  62. Brett should have been a Seahawk, and not a Packer.

    Classic case of an owner meddling in football operations to minimize expenditure.

    That said, with back to back HOF QBs, the Packers should have won more Super Bowls.

  63. Well they didn’t win more because Rodgers isn’t clutch. Yeah, one Super Bowl win. What else has he really done?
    __________________________
    He dates hot celebrity babes and dumps them.

  64. Jesus, Rodgers is so emotionally immature he wont even speak to his parents And you are expecting a tight relationship between him and his new HC? Not happening.

  65. Could the Packers have won more? I suppose so. I hear the other teams in the league are pretty good, though. As a lifelong Packers fan, the two years I’d like to have back are 2003 and 2014. But it doesn’t work that way. On to 2019 and we’ll see what happens.

  66. Best player in the game ??
    ——–
    I’ll give rogers credit, at least he has been very outspoken about making the obvious evident. He has repeatedly stated that there is no contest, Brady has been the GOAT ever since he buried the legion of doom in the 4th quarter of SB49. farve has tried to throw shade at rogers since he got to green bay.

  67. Rogers has his one super bowl. His new coach will realize quickly what a head case he is. Rogers is only good when his receivers are open. Teams that play man drive him nuts, no easy targets and chance of interceptions.

  68. filthymcnasty3 says:
    April 13, 2019 at 10:36 am
    As the late, great Bud Grant used to famously say, “we didn’t win any Superbowls, but probably should have won at least 2 – just by the law of averages”.
    ————
    Bud Grant is still alive as of today.
    Why do packer fans think he’s passed away?

  69. There sure are a lot of butthurt fans over this topic ~ All the back and forth is crazy ~

  70. This is so intriguing. But the people who are comparing the Pack to the Pats are kinda in left field. They are in different conferences, and Green Bay didn’t even make it back to lose to the Pats. I’ve always wondered how Green Bay could fail to win with such a great qb, and this drama finally tells me why.

  71. Screamingyellowzonkers:
    ————————————
    Cuz filthy is trying to be a tool. He tries at a lot of things but isn’t very good.

  72. One guy says Rodgers is only good when his receivers are open. Another says it is drama that caused this lack of Super Bowls. Aaron Rodgers is not the problem, in any way, shape, or form. He’s good. He’s REAL good. Any objective person would agree with that. Mike MM is a former toll-taker on the Pennsylvania turnpike. Ted Thompson reminded me of Howard Hughes once Howard went south. If there is ever the case for great quarterbacks don’t necessarily win championships, it’s this one.

  73. Ernie Ernie says:
    April 13, 2019 at 8:54 pm
    Rogers has his one super bowl. His new coach will realize quickly what a head case he is. Rogers is only good when his receivers are open. Teams that play man drive him nuts, no easy targets and chance of interceptions.

    /////

    Rodgers throws balls accurately in some of the tightest windows. One of the best at that. The fact that you brought that up as a point shows your lack of knowledge. No QB in the NFL does well without receivers that can’t get open. Rodgers needs better targets that can get separation out of breaks. Edelman and Welker are/were great receivers because they gave Brady those windows to throw.

  74. After they won the Super Bowl everyone was saying it would be a dynasty. I remember Peter King’s MMQB sharing the story of how the Packers weren’t even doing a banner raising ceremony because they felt like winning championships should be routine business for their superior team. What huge egos.

  75. Favre still holds some animosity over McCarthy and Thompson for the way things ended for him in Green Bay, but has patched things up with Rodgers. Just listen to Rodgers on Favre’s radio show last fall on SiriusXM.
    ======

    He has made up with Thompson as well, and has said so publicly.

    I have no doubt he still has an axe to grind with Mac, and as you said, I believe that is what this is all about.

  76. Can people stop with the notion that Aaron Rodgers is clutch?
    =====

    Highest rated passer of all-time
    3rd highest active post season rating (1.5 points from the top spot)
    5th highest active all-time post season rating

    QB rating in November – 102.2
    QB rating in December – 99.6
    QB rating against his Conference – 105.3
    QB rating against his Division – 108.2

    QB rating in games decided by 7 points or less – 97.3
    QB rating, tie < 2:00 – 99.9
    QB rating, tied < 4:00 – 88.2

    4th Q QB rating – 102.2
    2nd half QB rating – 101.9

    Stack that up against any QB, ever.

    .. the answer is H#LL No.

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