Russell Wilson pushes new-money bar to $35 million per year

Getty Images

NFL contract extensions can be viewed in two ways. Some look at the value of the new dollars attributed to the new years, ignoring whatever the player was due to make over the remainder of his prior commitment. Others look at the new contract for what it is — a brand new contract that replaces the old one. Some look at both.

For Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson, the contract has a value from signing (per Ian Rapoport of NFL Media) of five years and $157 million. That’s an average at signing of $31.4 million per year.

Setting aside the $17 million that Wilson would have made in 2019, the last year of his prior contract, the new money consists of $140 million over four years, which equates to a new-money average of $35 million per year.

The deal also reportedly includes a $65 million signing bonus and $107 million in total guarantees. As often is the case, the full guarantee at signing hasn’t leaked yet, since it will be lower than $107 million — and since many will in the interim see the report of $107 million in guarantees and erroneously conclude that this means the $107 million is fully guaranteed.

This conventional sleight of hand regarding the reporting of the deal meshes with the conventional structure of the deal. For all the huffing and puffing about a contract tied to inevitable increases in the salary cap, Wilson eventually accepted a very large bird in the hand, choosing the certainty of $31.4 million over the next five years.

Last last night, we heard that the deal, if it were done, would entail huge numbers but no funky structures, and that’s exactly what happened. It will now be left for another player on another team to take the Kirk Cousins franchise-tag dance to the next level; for Wilson, it was enough to convince the Seahawks that he was serious about doing that, if he didn’t become the highest-paid player in NFL history.

And now he is. At least for a year or two.

178 responses to “Russell Wilson pushes new-money bar to $35 million per year

  1. I guess now is not the time to tie a contract to a cap percentage. Still way too much.

  2. I guess Brady should have made 79 a year after his third ring. With the sixth ring 189 million a year haha. Seattle U got robbed!

  3. As I said 2 days ago, Wilson is the Seahawks. The deal would get done and Wilson would say I love Seattle and never wanted to go anywhere else. Seattle would say Russ is our QB and never thought about trading him.

  4. This is getting out of hand! At some point the average person will not be able to afford going to games. ticket prices go up, concessions go up it has to stop or it will implode. I love football but NOBODY in any sport is worth that kind of money, NOBODY!!

  5. Seattle just bought themselves countless broken plays, endless floating overthrows, and 4 years of 9-to-6 final scores.

  6. Well deserved for the best QB in the league. How embarrassing to have listened to people say the words Kirk Cousins in the same breath as Wilson. Seems to always be something that calls into question the obvious value of Russell Wilson.

    If there is a pay scale, Wilson should be at the top.

  7. The haters were going to celebrate the outcome of this no matter which way it worked out. Oh no you overpaid Russell and can’t pay anyone else. Oh no you let go of the best player on your team, you are doomed!

    Reality, Seahawks reclaim the division and are playoff contenders for years to come.

    Chew on that.

    Go HAWKS

  8. Great example your setting for your team Russel Wilson .Now dont expect a Great line protecting you.Dont expect players take a discount to have a chance to win a Lombardi.Dont expect players to say I dont care I’m not the highest paid.Dont expect the team to sign Great free agents.He set the tone for the team and the organization allowed it.Good Luck for the next 5 years

  9. Congrats to Wilson! Always happy to see a player get paid

    Patrick Mahomes’s bank is gonna have to build a whole new branch just to hold his money

  10. Wow, good for him … bad for Seahawks. Next few years the salary cap may go up but can’t go on forever. Other teams have highly paid Qb’s but signing them just keeps going higher and higher which hamstrings teams salary cap wise. Insane amount of money for these Qbs which guarantees their teams nothing but the inability to sign others to the team.

  11. All that speculation of percentages of the team’s cap, etc., etc. You must be disappointed this is “just” a regular QB deal (one that pushes the bar a lot higher).

    Good luck Seabirds with the rest of your players’ contracts. That’s way too much money to 1 player

  12. Why more teams don’t use the Patriots strategy and pay your qb like Brady 1/2 under the table 16 million and 16 million in real estate from Kraft

  13. No place to go but downhill after paying that amount.

    The supporting cast will deteriorate, due to lack of cash.

    The “cap” strikes another team.

  14. Good deal by the hawks. Saved from paying him 17 million next year, 31 million the year after with franchise tag year one, 35 million the year after at franchise year two, and then 51 million the third year…

  15. Stupid, just killed his team, good luck getting other guys signed, up to ticket prices, food, ridiculous parking fees and so on. He should be the highest paid if he’s the best, he’s not!

  16. They should have let him walk at that price.TaLK about over paying, this is Green Bay Part 2, all monmey in QB and nothing left to put anyone around him.

  17. Its way past over due the NFL needs to put a cap on the money a ceiling …this is stupid money now one single player is worth that much $$

    Every year the ticket prices go up and a 20 dollar beer and a 15 dollar hotdog is absurd !!!

  18. I remember when all you 12’s would say how all the Seattle seahawk players would take a home town discount to stay in Seattle to win multiple super bowls….. please reply now and tell me how a dynasty will be built around Wilson now please!!!! LOL

  19. Ok say goodbye to Seattle for 5 years… no way they can fill their roster with qualified players with that much of the salary cap tied to one position….

  20. These NFL players wonder why fans call them greedy, selfish ect. I get it, you want to get as much money as you think your worth. But is being the highest paid player or whatever for just a short time mind you. Is that more important then being with a team with a chance to win over a team that doesn’t? Or a QB with a team with no line or weapons? All because you want 32 million over 30.5 million. Fans see a guy like Wilson who is everything you want on and off the field and you cheer for him, buy his jerseys ect. Then see him tell your favorite team pay me or else and it has to sour you a little bit, even if he’s worth it ( NO player not named Tom Brady is imo)…How much money is worth being happy where you play?

  21. Washington is also an income tax-free state, so his contract value is a little higher than an equivalent in, say, wisconsin.

    Stop it with the obsession with guarantees with these QB deals. These guys play out their contracts.

  22. The only “huffing and puffing” about the terrible idea to tie a contract to increases in the salary cap that I heard was right here on PFT. Don’t mistake a personal view for something that is widespread.

  23. It was, what, 3 years ago that the world was agape at Osweiler getting $17 million a year from Houston?

    I firmly believe that players deserve whatever teams are willing to pay them. They have special talent that allows them to play in a hugely successful pro sports league – so more power to them.

    But the QB contracts are skyrocketing out of control. Way out of whack with the salary cap. Wilson is great, but does this contract hamper Seattle’s ability to compete? At some point that’s the question that every team needs to ask before spending big on their QB.

  24. As long as the 2012ths are willing to pay $3500-$5k for season tickets, they can afford to pay RW.

  25. I would trade him. If they cave, that number is going to look horrible for the next decade.

    Make it someone else’s problem. Take a 2nd and 2 4ths and run.

  26. Better win it all real soon while you can still field a formidable team! When does this money freight train stop, where does it stop? What’s next? RWilson is a very good QB, no doubt, but damn, how the heck is anyone else going to get paid anything better than league minimum. Make me the highest paid QB by this date OR ELSE ! Seahawks have a real team player there!

  27. Say what you want about Kirk Cousins but he paved the way for players to get more money from owners. If he doesn’t do what he did the last few years, I feel like the Seahawks would have called Wilson’s bluff.

  28. 35MM is a lot, but Wilson had leverage.
    He’s a lot better than Kirk Cousins and I’d pay an extra 7MM for RW over Cousins.
    Having said that, this will be costly for teh Seahawks, and will hamper putting a good team around him.
    They better draft like they did when they got the legion of Boom in later round picks.

  29. Wilson got his $35 million a year. Frank Clark is now at $17 million. Bobby Wagner at $14 million. Doug Baldwin at $13 million. Cap space has gotten eaten up fast. Need to pay 45 other players also.

  30. Well, I hope he can win the games virtually by himself. Because they can’t afford to sign any descent players now. Guess that they will be looking at AAF players now.

  31. I’d like to think that Wilson is overrated, but you look at the metrics in terms of ratings, wins, etc – he’s right at the top. So that’s the going rate for top QBs (a trend I don’t see stopping any time soon).

    But when Seattle won the SB, he was still on his rookie deal (as was the Legion of Boom) and they could afford other pieces around him/them. That being said, as we’ve seen before, when a team has such a high amount of cap space dedicated to a QB and another player, those teams don’t tend to win Super Bowls.

  32. No surprise he got the contract. John and Pete are locked in with Russell, and rightly so. He is a top QB and the team isn’t the same without him. Good job, Seattle.

  33. $31.4m is 16.5% of the salary cap, which is exactly the same as it was 22 years ago. Peter King looked at the 1997 QB salary cap, and Brett Favre, Drew Bledsoe and Troy Aikman were all at that 16.5% range too.

    Considering QBs now are passing more and turning over less, they’re actually underpaid compared past quarterbacks.

  34. 100% salary cap should go to the QBs. The rest will be happy to play for beer and chips (peanuts?).

  35. And this will be the high water mark for the Seahawks. They will go down hill now because they’ll be in the same boat as the Falcons, Vikings, Packers, Saints, etc…. all of whom are paying one player too much money.
    This just in — Antonio Brown and LeVeon Bell are going to hold out for more money now. LOL

  36. This is great news for the rest of the NFC. Seattle will not be able to compete unless the cap jumps huge. Can’t put a championship team together if one play makes that much money.

  37. $35-million for another mediocre qb who will never get to a Super Bowl unless he buys a ticket. Just keep buyin’ those cars and trucks, folks, and whatever else Boss Roger tells you to buy.

  38. None of the top 10 paid qb’s have won multiple SB’s
    Three of the top 10 paid qb’ have won 1 SB.
    Four of the top 10 paid qb’s have never won a playoff game

  39. I, like fans of 31 NFL teams, dislike Tom Brady and the Patriots. However, I found a list this morning of 10 top paid NFL QB’s as of March. If you ADD Wilson to the top (not just put him at #1 and slide everyone else down), those 11 quarterbacks have won a COMBINED 4 Superbowls. Nowhere to be found on that list is Brady who has SIX rings himself.

    Could that be because he values championships over being MORE rich than he already is and keeps signing team friendly contracts that allow NE to put talent AROUND him? Hmmm….

  40. This is absoluteley ridiculous…I have no problem with him trying to get the most he can..but he is barely a top 10 qb…he is no way a top 5..the happiest qb today is Pat Mahomes…he is getting 40 mil. guarenteed …If I was Tom Brady I would ask for a Michael Jordan 1 year makeup deal of 50 million at least!!!!…Russell Wilson…is not this good and doesn’t deserve it

  41. silvernblackpride says:
    April 16, 2019 at 8:03 am
    Its way past over due the NFL needs to put a cap on the money a ceiling …this is stupid money now one single player is worth that much $$

    Every year the ticket prices go up and a 20 dollar beer and a 15 dollar hotdog is absurd !!!

    ———————————
    How about not drinking beer and eating hotdogs. So you’re mad that Russ made it difficult for you to make bad decisions??

  42. but but our resident financial experts saying he was making a mistake playing hard ball with management.

  43. Aaaaand… he simultaneously pushes his chance of winning another Super Bowl down to 5%.

    With every huge contract and/or off-season spat around the league, things just get easier for the Patriots.

  44. “This is getting out of hand! At some point the average person will not be able to afford going to games.”

    ___

    Dude, get a grip. Russell Wilson’s insane salary exists within the confines of a salary cap. What he makes has no impact on what you pay to get frisked by NFL security. All it means is that his team has less money to spend on other things like receivers, running backs, and offensive linemen.

    Ticket prices are driven by supply and demand, just like everything else. The more people want to go to the games the more tickets will cost.

  45. “Its way past over due the NFL needs to put a cap on the money a ceiling.”

    You are clearly not qualified to comment.

  46. Seahawk fan can spin this in whatever direction but the truth is with his contract you won’t have money to pay for other positions.

    WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF MEDIOCRITY FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.

  47. aarogantrodgers says:
    April 16, 2019 at 7:52 am
    Why more teams don’t use the Patriots strategy and pay your qb like Brady 1/2 under the table 16 million and 16 million in real estate from Kraft.😭😭😭 I thought it was cause his wife was rich He tales less lol keep crying while the pats keep winning .

  48. Rich people don’t care that your average working Joe has to use up 2 weeks pay to take his family to a game. Where are all those rich people hating folks? The NFL is all about social justice, right up until payday. Then income equality is fake news.

  49. Is this contract tradeable? Sounds sort of odd at this money, but a team with a load of cap space that doesn’t want to wait to develop a QB would possibly take him.

    This is suicide otherwise. Carroll and Seattle are done for the next decade.

  50. Qb + greed +not enough money to pay rest of team = mediocre team next 5 years . Not quite Einstein level math formula . But how bout those apples ?

  51. 1phillyphan says:
    April 16, 2019 at 8:11 am
    These NFL players wonder why fans call them greedy, selfish ect. I get it, you want to get as much money as you think your worth. But is being the highest paid player or whatever for just a short time mind you. Is that more important then being with a team with a chance to win over a team that doesn’t? Or a QB with a team with no line or weapons? All because you want 32 million over 30.5 million. Fans see a guy like Wilson who is everything you want on and off the field and you cheer for him, buy his jerseys ect. Then see him tell your favorite team pay me or else and it has to sour you a little bit, even if he’s worth it ( NO player not named Tom Brady is imo)…How much money is worth being happy where you play?

    —————————-
    Please! Seattle didn’t give him a line or weapons when he was making $3 million/year. Name the best WR Wilson has played with? I’m sure he and his family are VERY happy playing in Seattle.

  52. yorkville11 says:
    April 16, 2019 at 9:17 am
    $35-million for another mediocre qb who will never get to a Super Bowl unless he buys a ticket. Just keep buyin’ those cars and trucks, folks, and whatever else Boss Roger tells you to buy.

    ———————-
    *Another Super Bowl……. there. Fixed it for ya.

  53. Why would anybody pay that much for anyone lol, its a GAME

    It’s actually a business, but thanks for commenting.

  54. bettis3636 says:
    April 16, 2019 at 6:41 am

    Learn your lesson Leveon… this is how you get paid.. not by being a bully…
    =============================================================================
    Wilson was a bully, though. He gave an ultimatum to sign to a new contract or else he was leaving when he could become a free agent. Wilson is a very good player but not for that kind of money. Seattle should have traded him and went a different direction.

  55. kennyx says:

    April 16, 2019 at 8:25 am

    Goodbye Frank Clark!
    ___________

    Welcome Frank Clark!

    – Chiefs Nation

  56. …Houdini gets the bag. People talk about cap space like he wasn’t 70% of the teams offense. And they still made the playoffs. Rodgers got paid, now it’s Houdinis turn

  57. Agreed, many clubs may be forced to offer similar sized contracts because now agents will demand it, although some quarterbacks would rather win the Super Bowl than to be the absolute highest paid quarterback in the NFL. Don’t expect Tom Brady to hold out or demand a similar sized contract, for example. Seattle will not go anywhere near the Super Bowl while Russell Wilson gets paid. Last year Seattle lost to the second worst team in the league, the Frisco 49ers and Wilson was perfectly healthy. Wilson also ranks 25th in the league in yards passing. That kind of stats means the D has to play extremely well for the team to make it past the first round of the playoffs. I don’t see that happening.

  58. brady1515 says: “Qb + greed +not enough money to pay rest of team = mediocre team next 5 years . Not quite Einstein level math formula . But how bout those apples ?”
    =========================

    Math: $188.2m salary cap – $31.4m = $156.8m.

    Seattle still has $156,800,000 in salary cap room. ONE HUNDRED FIFTY SIX MILLION DOLLARS. Pretty sure that could buy a lot of ‘them apples’ just fine…

  59. frozenstiff says: “This is getting out of hand! At some point the average person will not be able to afford going to games. ticket prices go up, concessions go up it has to stop or it will implode. I love football but NOBODY in any sport is worth that kind of money, NOBODY!!”
    ———————-

    Hate to break it to you, but the bulk of NFL revenue is from TV contracts at over $8b/yr. Your gameday tickets and concessions are barely a blip on a team’s bottom line…

  60. frozenstiff says:
    April 16, 2019 at 6:35 am
    This is getting out of hand! At some point the average person will not be able to afford going to games. ticket prices go up, concessions go up it has to stop or it will implode. I love football but NOBODY in any sport is worth that kind of money, NOBODY!!
    ______________________________________________

    This is such a lame, dated complaint. The REVENUE is there from TV alone! So WHO – EXACTLY WHO – should benefit from that revenue? The owner sitting on his butt or the player risking injury? You don’t like the salaries of pro athletes then stop watching. The Rock makes 20 million a movie – the revenue scale and box office draw DICTATES THAT. Fact is, Russell Wilson is ONE of 32 people on Earth good enough to be a starting NFL QB. That’s 32 out of 7 BILLION. And of those 32 he’s in the top 10 of talent. Is he worth all that money? – Based on revenue and demand – YES!

  61. unkleruckus says:
    April 16, 2019 at 9:49 am
    yorkville11 says:
    April 16, 2019 at 9:17 am
    $35-million for another mediocre qb who will never get to a Super Bowl unless he buys a ticket. Just keep buyin’ those cars and trucks, folks, and whatever else Boss Roger tells you to buy.
    ———————-
    *Another Super Bowl……. there. Fixed it for ya.
    ========
    Nuthin’ needed fixin’, laddie; yesterday is history. He’ll never get to a Super Bowl unless he buys a ticket. Meanwhile, Tammy might end up with one for each finger.

  62. omeimontis says: “Don’t expect Tom Brady to hold out or demand a similar sized contract, for example.”
    ———————-

    Most NFL QBs don’t have a supermodel wife that earns $60m a year. He might be the GOAT in the NFL, but Gisele’s net worth is $400m while Tom is ONLY at $180m.

  63. Now I am seriously worried how much Jerry is going to pay Dak seeing Wilson’s new ridiculous contract. I know Dak is no Wilson but I can see Dak getting close to 30Million annually. Oh Gawd…. help us. Dak 30, Zeke 15m, Cooper 14M, Jaylon Smith 9-11M, Byron Jones 10-13M. Potentially over 80Million annually for 5 players. Thats crazy. Cowboys are screwed

  64. “Hate to break it to you, but the bulk of NFL revenue is from TV contracts at over $8b/yr.”

    Broadcast TV is going the way of the dodo, the entertainment landscape is changing quickly. What happens not if, but when, that 8 billion a year dries up? Notice most major players in the Super Bowl weren’t advertising this year?

  65. Should’ve fleeced NYG for picks AND stuck them with this contract. Long term cap hell and Seahawks won’t be relevant until 2028 at the earliest.

  66. The Seahawks had no other choice, did they, seeing that they’re a business and Wilson helps them sell those $11 beers. Winning another Superbowl with limitted cap space for a solid defense, which also helped them win, not so much.

  67. Grossly overpaid but Wilson got the team in a corner. He was lucky to have played with the legion of boom and Lynch. They’re the unsung heroes of Wilson’s contract. He should at least take them out to dinner or buy them something nice. At the end…Congrats to Wilson for maximizing his earnings.

  68. Big fat LOLti all the Hawks fans that have based Dre Brees as a greedy QB worrying about himself and putting the team into cap hell. You guys said Russell Wilson would not do that and was about building a dynasty. RW says syke.

  69. I love how these people always talk about a long term contract as having “security”. As high as these amounts are they had financial security on the first contract.

  70. Imagine paying a QB north of $30 million a year, and voluntarily employing an offensive coordinator who regularly runs the ball on 3rd and long.

  71. Setting aside the $17 million that Wilson would have made in 2019, the last year of his prior contract, the new money consists of $140 million over four years, which equates to a new-money average of $35 million per year.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    This is one of the dumbest mindsets. You are giving credit for something that never happened. He didn’t extend his deal, he REPLACED it which means that $17M no longer exists.

  72. The real game is called” I want to be the highest paid.” Wilson said it on national tv, ” it would be fun to be the highest paid player!” Can you spell GREED? Regardless of talent level, a solid ceiling must be established or else these tea friendly QBs will just keep playing this game! Cmon GMs grow some and stop being bullied into financial oblivion.

  73. meet2x4 says: “Broadcast TV is going the way of the dodo, the entertainment landscape is changing quickly. What happens not if, but when, that 8 billion a year dries up? Notice most major players in the Super Bowl weren’t advertising this year?”
    ————————-

    And the NFL will just sell the broadcasting rights to whatever the “entertainment landscape” is moving towards.

    As for the Super Bowl ads, 2018 SET A NEW RECORD at $5.24m per 30sec spot, double of what it was just 10 years ago. Pretty sure you’d have to be a “major player” to afford that kind of exposure.

  74. I always find it comical when football fans are so agitated by players trying to get the most money they can out of a multi billion dollar a year business. But when he signs a bad deal then he is a fool, has terrible agent etc. which one is it?

    I don’t feel bad for the owners or these teams. I wish all of these players could get 100 million dollar contracts. Most of them will be forgotten in 2-3 years and 98% of them will never see that kind of money. So stop it.

  75. Teams are paying just to have a “decent” to above average QB and are stuck in a viscous cycle, just so they dont get caught with a bum. Just to get a top 10-15 QB will now cost you the farm.

  76. Better hope Lockett and Baldwin can keep catching miracle chuck and duck passes in 4th qtr comebacks after Russell’s 49 yd first halfs. Oh wait, they’re gonna want to get paid next. And who’s playing defense now? Hawks window officially closed.

  77. $35 Million / year for 1 Player on a 53 man Roster.

    Keep that in mind next time the NFL gets in your pocket for a new Stadium whether you’re even a fan or not.

    Remember that $35 Million when your team charges you Full Rate for Preseason Tickets.

    That $10 Beer isn’t going to go down quite as refreshing when you realize you’re being taken to the bank to help float these ever expanding deals.

    It’s going to come out of somebody’s pocket… Hint: It’s Yours!

    Greed has no offseason in Sports!

  78. I doubt the Hawks will be in cap hell any time soon. Who are their other good players requiring expensive contracts — Wagner and Clark? Doesn’t seem to me there are enough pro bowl type players on that team, at least now, to demand high contracts and thus create cap problems for the next couple years.

  79. This makes a lot more sense than trading him to the Giants. He’s played like an All-Star every year in Seattle. That’s a lot of money, but I’d do that before trading him away.

  80. Many of the comments here – mediocre QB, overpaid, welcome to cap hell, they can’t afford other decent players, Seahawks screwed themselves – looks like everyone did a copy-n-paste from the comment section on the last time Wilson signed a contract….

  81. If he didn’t sign the contract with Seattle, he might have gotten more from another team. Just a guess but, plausible.

    Not a fan of his personality, off the field, but he’s a top end QB in a business that, more often than not, requires one for success.

    Glad he’s staying but, wish it was for 5-7 million less per year.

    That being said, players, except for a small percentage, have agents to do their jobs negotiating contracts.

    His agent just made a good chunk of change as well.

  82. Well, has Seattle gotten better or worse since the last time Wilson signed a contract? Oh, right.

  83. But wait a minute, I thought Wilson demanded $40mil/yr and a % of the cap guaranteed, I don’t see where he got either one of those things so how did he get what he wanted?

  84. I have no problem with an employee getting whatever amount of money an employer is willing to pay. If the employer unwisely overpays, that’s his problem, not the employee’s problem.

    Having said that, Russell Wilson was not the “missing piece” to a Super Bowl campaign. But now it becomes even harder to pay for the true “missing pieces” needed for Seattle to get there.

    If the Cousins contract didn’t provide a teachable moment to some of these teams, nothing ever will.

  85. Wilson played under a rookie contract and took the Hawks to two Super Bowls. If you average his salary over the entire time he’s been in Seattle, he’s been a bargain of epic proportions. I didn’t see anyone complaining when the Hawks were paying him $600K/yr. and he was carving up the rest of the league. I’m glad he’s staying and can’t wait for the season to begin.

  86. The winningest QB after 7 straight years beginning a career. Best 4th quarter winning percentage ever! Most 4th qtr come from behind wins EVER. #2 alltime in QBR. Highest 4th qtr QBR. #2 alltime in TD percentage (per pass) etc.

    By any measure Russell Wilson is the best QB in the world. Seattle got a real bargain.

  87. The Vikings are paying the price now for Cousins big $. They can’t sign any good players and have to hope their core players take a pay cut to stay. Vikings lost Richardson. Can’t even afford to sign Sebastian Thunderbucket but hey their QB got paid. Seattle depends on Wilson for everything in their offense though. He’s worth it. Until he isn’t.

  88. The Vikings are paying the price now for Cousins big $. They can’t sign any good players and have to hope their core players take a pay cut to stay. Vikings lost Richardson. Can’t even afford to sign Sebastian Thunderbucket but hey their QB got paid. Seattle depends on Wilson for everything in their offense though.

  89. qdog112 says:
    April 16, 2019 at 1:59 pm
    The winningest QB after 7 straight years beginning a career. Best 4th quarter winning percentage ever! Most 4th qtr come from behind wins EVER. #2 alltime in QBR. Highest 4th qtr QBR. #2 alltime in TD percentage (per pass) etc.

    By any measure Russell Wilson is the best QB in the world. Seattle got a real bargain.

    ——-

    One SB win….just like Trent Dilfer

  90. I wonder what the Seahawks Win/loss record would have been had Wilson had Patrick Mahomes 31st rank defense.After all the Seahawks finish the season with the 16th Rank Defense that was better than the Rams, New England, Denver, Eagles… teams like that. Since being the QB in Seattle NOT once had the Offense ever Outranked the Defense at any point in time.

    So by giving him this contract are they now counting on him to carry the team because they will be restricted in paying for the type of HELP he always had. BTW.. their Offense was Rank 18th this past season with their passing Offense being rank 27th.

  91. I see a lot of Franchise tags about to get used in the future…. Dak Prescott may have to play under 2 Franchise tags before he gets paid by another team. Teams will start drafting and developing more QB’s than ever and older QB’s will probably land bigger “Backup Contracts” since teams will be riding rookie contracts

  92. Unless the Seahawks scouting teams and personal people have HoF type developmental seasons the Seahawks have said goodbye to being competitive. But then again what were they to do. You have to have a top QB to win games which he is but he he can’t do it himself and how much left for the rest of the team.

  93. ONE Every team that pays a monster contract to the QB immediately stinks afterward. RING Seattle is no different. DYNASTY Without McGloughan running their scouting department, the drafts have been very average.

  94. Paul Allen’s sister just got royally screwed and doesn’t even realize it! All that guaranteed money for a short, scrambling QB! Unbelievable!

  95. SWFLPC.INC says:
    April 16, 2019 at 2:18 pm
    qdog112 says:
    April 16, 2019 at 1:59 pm
    The winningest QB after 7 straight years beginning a career. Best 4th quarter winning percentage ever! Most 4th qtr come from behind wins EVER. #2 alltime in QBR. Highest 4th qtr QBR. #2 alltime in TD percentage (per pass) etc.

    By any measure Russell Wilson is the best QB in the world. Seattle got a real bargain.

    ——-

    One SB win….just like Trent Dilfer

    __________________________________________________________

    Hey, that’s not fair. Trent Dilfer never threw a pick to lose a Super Bowl.

  96. frozenstiff says:
    April 16, 2019 at 6:35 am
    This is getting out of hand! At some point the average person will not be able to afford going to games. ticket prices go up, concessions go up it has to stop or it will implode. I love football but NOBODY in any sport is worth that kind of money, NOBODY!!
    ***************************************************
    ***************************************************

    #1 — Economics 101. Capitalism. Supply and Demand.
    The NFL had revenues of about $14 billion last year from TV contracts, internet streaming deals, ticket sales, apparel, etc. TV/online contracts brought in almost 3 times as much as ticket sales. The salary cap is based off the revenue generated, as the players get about 47-48% of NFL revenues.

    NFL teams could cut ticket prices in half, and the salary cap would only go down ~$15 million per team based on the lost revenue of roughly $1 billion. Tickets sales are not the main factor in driving the salary cap.

    The NFL clearly has plenty of demand, and the TV contracts are about to be negotiated again. There is reportedly interest from Apple and Amazon, which could drive the price of the next TV/streaming deals even higher. The players provide the “supply” for that demand. As the AAF showed, people don’t watch less talented players play football. Therefore, the most talented players do have the leverage to continue to command increasing salaries. These players are no different than other entertainers such as actors, musicians, illusionists (Vegas), and even social media “stars”. We don’t have to like it, but this is the reality for people of fame all over the world.

    #2 — Gambling may add even more money to the salary cap.

    The Bills are already reportedly looking into how they can bring gambling into their stadium.
    NFL owners will surely look to profit if the state they play in allows sports gambling after the Supreme Court decision in 2018. The NFL may even attract new fans to the stadium if they develop creative methods to enable real-time betting throughout the game. Get some gamblers involved, and demand for tickets may go higher. The NFL could cut into the money that FanDuel and DraftKings are making with fantasy football for money.

    #3 — Unfortunately for the average person, the NFL doesn’t really need them in the stadium.

    They only need them watching on TV or online. I saw an estimate that over 90% of people who claim to be NFL fans have never been to a game in person. That is what attracts advertisers, which is what creates the demand for huge TV contracts.

    There are over 16 million people making $100,000 per year in this country. It would be hard to say how many of them have families, but that could represent 30-50 million people who live in the same home.

    There are 16 games at most in a week, so about 1.2 million seats to fill.
    It certainly is not fair, but the NFL is happy to have fans with deeper pockets in those seats.

  97. Just furthers the selfishness of the modern athlete. You could donate 70mil and still have 30 mil left over. Go buy a yacht and take selfies. You deserve it while the fans of the team flounder in misery as your team can’t win because they are hamstrung by you and your stupid self promoting videos.

  98. brady1515 says:
    April 16, 2019 at 9:47 am
    Qb + greed +not enough money to pay rest of team = mediocre team next 5 years . Not quite Einstein level math formula . But how bout those apples ?
    *******************************************
    *******************************************

    Interesting take… especially since “Brady” is in the user name.

    Brady counted $22 million against the 2018 cap (11th highest), and was only $4.5 million less than the #2 highest cap figure (Matt Stafford). I think the Pats were OK last year, right?

    Brady is due to count $27 million against the cap in 2019, which is 4th highest in NFL. Are the Patriots going to be “mediocre” this year?

    Patriots, Colts, Seahawks, Chargers, and Saints made playoffs in 2018, and their QBs all are in the top 11 highest cap numbers for 2019 (and within $6 million of the highest).

    Goff, Wentz, Trubisky, Mahomes, Dak, and Watson are the only QBs currently not making ~$20 million per year or more that have made it to the playoffs. Wentz has never actually played in a playoff game. Goff, Wentz, and Dak are all likely to get paid in the next 12 months. The other 3 will be due for extensions in 2 years. That will make for at least 17 QBs making $20+ million per year in 2 years, not counting older guys (Brady, Brees, Manning) likely to retire, or guys who may not be under the same contract (Flacco, Alex Smith, Carr).

    Since 2011 when the new CBA enacted the rookie cap, only Kaepernick, Wilson, and Goff have made it to the Super Bowl as the starting QB. All 3 were on run heavy teams, and both Kaepernick and Wilson brought a running QB element that factored heavily in the offense. Younger QBs generally don’t have great passing games in the playoffs. Even Brady himself was a game manager when he won his first Super Bowl.

    Flacco won the Super Bowl in the last year of his rookie deal in 2012, but was drafted prior to the CBA change. Flacco’s cap number was near top 10 that year, and the same amount as Brady and Romo.

    In the 8 Super Bowls since the CBA change, 11 of the 16 QBs starting had cap numbers in the top half of the NFL. Only 4 of those QBs had fewer than 5 years of NFL experience (Kaepernick, Wilson x2, and Goff).

    Rookie contracts do allow a team to build a quality roster, but it still shows that a quality veteran QB is more likely to consistently win in the playoffs. And good veteran QBs get paid.
    Brady is the only guy who has been willing to take a big discount, so other teams can’t really “plan” to get a QB to do the same thing.

  99. fishyinalittledishy says:
    April 16, 2019 at 2:56 pm
    Unless the Seahawks scouting teams and personal people have HoF type developmental seasons the Seahawks have said goodbye to being competitive. But then again what were they to do. You have to have a top QB to win games which he is but he he can’t do it himself and how much left for the rest of the team.
    ***********************************
    He pretty much did it himself last season.

  100. SWFLPC.INC says:
    April 16, 2019 at 2:18 pm
    qdog112 says:
    April 16, 2019 at 1:59 pm
    The winningest QB after 7 straight years beginning a career. Best 4th quarter winning percentage ever! Most 4th qtr come from behind wins EVER. #2 alltime in QBR. Highest 4th qtr QBR. #2 alltime in TD percentage (per pass) etc.

    By any measure Russell Wilson is the best QB in the world. Seattle got a real bargain.

    ——-

    One SB win….just like Trent Dilfer
    *************************

    One SB, 32 teams trying to get there much less win. Why not try thinking for yourself than believing what other posters put out there.

    Wilson is one of the few QBs to have been to two SBs. Trent Dilfer only made it to one. Dilfer lacks the career stats of Wilson.

    Apples to oranges comparison

  101. The players are what makes the NFL. If a team pays a player X millions of dollars it is within the context of a salary cap. The NFL is a $14 billion dollar a year business, and Roger announced a few years ago that they want to bring it to $25 billion by 2025 (or whatever the date was).

    If you think Wilson isn’t “worth it”, well, where would Seattle be if they traded him? Starting over with a new rookie/journeyman/placeholder QB is generally not a recipe for success.

    Teams usually hold all the leverage and routinely cut players who are under contract with zero repercussions. I have no problem with a player using whatever leverage they have to get a big contract. Those beers and hot dogs were gonna cost the same regardless of Wilson’s salary.

    Do you know what greed really gets to me? When an owner holds a city hostage for a new stadium, or moves a team. When a community pays for a stadium the only winner is the owner. St. Louis is still paying off the new stadium they built for the Rams in 1995, and they were ready to build ANOTHER new stadium to keep them.

    And, having been handed a stadium, the owner gets to set prices for parking and concessions, PSLs (which are nothing but pure highway robbery), tickets, etc.

    And yes, taking the family to an NFL game is out of reach for many (most?) fans. But that’s not the fault of the players. Thank the owners for that.

  102. Wow how fast 10 years fly’s by! Many are forgetting that the CBA ends in 2020! We could see a lock out like we did almost 10 years ago. New deal must get done for that not to come true. Plus at the end of every CBA term this is true maybe not in year one but year 2 the S-CAP goes way down . Just like in the 2010 CBA,s Deal. 2 years later in 2012 salary Cap space was reduced by 46 million dollars! Cap space always goes up toward the end of the deal and then drops out the bottom early in the new deal. Want to talk about cap space hell well there you go!

Leave a Reply

You must be logged in to leave a comment. Not a member? Register now!