With bye weeks and extra rest, schedule helps the Lions, hurts the Patriots

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Nothing we learned when the schedule was released this evening told us anything we didn’t already know about how easy or hard any team’s slate of opponents is, because we already knew every team’s home and road opponents. But we did learn one way in which the schedule-makers helped the Lions and hurt the Patriots.

That is in rest days, where the Lions will have an NFL-best 12 more rest days than their opponents over the course of the season, while the Patriots will have an NFL-worst 13 fewer rest days than their opponents, according to Brian Burke of ESPN.

That’s primarily because the Lions never play an opponent coming off a bye, while the Patriots play three games against opponents coming off their byes. The Lions also benefit from extra rest before playing at Minnesota, after their annual Thanksgiving home game.

Other teams that got favorable schedules from a rest perspective include the Chargers, Buccaneers, Panthers and Bills. Teams that got unfavorable schedules include the Dolphins, Eagles, Packers and 49ers.

94 responses to “With bye weeks and extra rest, schedule helps the Lions, hurts the Patriots

  1. blah blah blah. throw whatever at the patriots. they dont care. another dozen win season on the way. another 1st round bye on the way.

  2. Bills got hosed for better part of a decade facing teams coming off extra rest. It’s ridiculous the league hasn’t found a way to stop this from happening to teams. How hard is it to give every team in a division the same bye week and then have each team in that division face another team in that division after the bye? That leaves teams facing opponents coming off Thursday games but the teams getting extra rest after a Thursday game were punished by having fewer days of rest before those games.

  3. obviously the schedule makers expect the NFC North to be a battle with Vikings/Bears end the season against each other once again. Detroit 3rd and Green Bay a dismal Fourth in the North.

  4. Week 16 NBC game will get flexed to the afternoon being as Green Bay will have a sub 500 record.

  5. Unfair for patriots?

    They’ve had some of the easiest schedules the last few years and not to mention one of the weakest division and conference

  6. ronfromnm says:
    April 17, 2019 at 9:40 pm
    Bills got hosed for better part of a decade facing teams coming off extra rest. It’s ridiculous the league hasn’t found a way to stop this from happening to teams. How hard is it to give every team in a division the same bye week and then have each team in that division face another team in that division after the bye? That leaves teams facing opponents coming off Thursday games but the teams getting extra rest after a Thursday game were punished by having fewer days of rest before those games.

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    WHOAH MAN! You know the NFL doesn’t do logical stuff like that!! For real though, that’s a pretty good idea. Would make for some great divisional games too.

  7. Just no reason any team has a bye before week 6. None. 32 teams. Could easily have 6 teams on byes for 4 weeks, 4 teams on byes for 2 weeks. Weeks 6-11 are the bye weeks. Having your bye so early is a huge disadvantage that is easily avoidable.

  8. patswhatsup says:
    April 17, 2019 at 9:53 pm
    ronfromnm says:
    April 17, 2019 at 9:40 pm
    Bills got hosed for better part of a decade facing teams coming off extra rest. It’s ridiculous the league hasn’t found a way to stop this from happening to teams. How hard is it to give every team in a division the same bye week and then have each team in that division face another team in that division after the bye? That leaves teams facing opponents coming off Thursday games but the teams getting extra rest after a Thursday game were punished by having fewer days of rest before those games.

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    WHOAH MAN! You know the NFL doesn’t do logical stuff like that!! For real though, that’s a pretty good idea. Would make for some great divisional games too.

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    when they introduced bye weeks the division typically had the same week off. they may have played other teams after, but they typically had the same week off. it probably worked too well so they did away with it.

  9. I hate to warn you folks but this won’t stop the Pats from going back into the playoffs again. As for whether or not they will repeat as champs? Not sure but if they win at least 12 games they have a chance if not then it’s not meant to be.

  10. I think both the Steelers and the Patriots should be happy with how last year went, and should hope for repeats this season.

    After all, they both won their Super Bowls…

  11. leehacksawhamilton says:
    April 17, 2019 at 9:57 pm
    I mean, they do get to play the Bills, Dolphins, and Jets 2x a year..

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    This statement and what is implied is so flawed on so many levels. But just to address one of those. If what you’re implying is that the Pats are really weak since they get a free pass on the aforementioned teams then why are they good enough to survive the play-offs and win the SB???

  12. DrKnow says:
    April 17, 2019 at 9:23 pm
    Don’t forget to mention this when they hoist the Lombardi again in February.
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    The Pats in the Bill B and Tom B era have not won back to back SBs, so there is that.

  13. That still give Them a free shot at the playsoffs every f….. year.
    And often with home field in the cold weather.
    And when you hate them Like i do, it is sad not watching the sb so often.

  14. The jets, dolphins and bills do not go 0-16 every year. What teams are they beating? The haters favorite teams or teams in that division. But that throws the haters logic out the window. How can the bills, dolphins and bills beat their team if they are so weak?Speaks volumes about their favorite team.
    I noticed one poster mentioned the Patriots play an extra 2 or 3 games every year but he failed to mention the parades they have to attend… They can be exhausting.

  15. The Pats have 2 home games against Bills and Find to end the regular season, just like the last few years. If the Pats get a #1 or #2 seed then they won’t have to travel after mid-December, except may be for AFCCG. As a Pats fan I think that is a big advantage, and of course they have a home Thursday night game.

  16. You have got to be kidding me! Patriots have the easiest schedule in the league again! It is the biggest joke that people slurp all over them year after year when they have the easiest schedule and the weakest division. What a farce of a dynasty complete farce!

  17. Dude, please, just stop already. I DESPISE how easy the Patriots make winning football games look and you’re just giving them bulletin board material. Don’t give them an excuse, just stop talking about them in a negative light. Everyone already knows they’re gonna be in the AFC championship game at minimum this year, all the rest of us can do is hope beyond hope that someone in the AFC might remember how to play like a pro team come January and pull off the upset.

  18. It wont hurt the Pats….after all they have 6 wins before the season starts….Bills ….Jests…..and Fins. They only have to go 500 outside their conference to get 11 wins.

  19. leehacksawhamilton says:
    April 17, 2019 at 9:57 pm
    I mean, they do get to play the Bills, Dolphins, and Jets 2x a year..
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    For all who keep crying about playing against Jets, Dolphins and Bills twice a year, here is a piece of information: since the reign of BB-TB12 the winning % against division rivals is 77,7% against the rest of the league is 75,5%. So do you think that 2,2% is such a HUGE difference maker?
    And the Dolphins for the same period have a .511 winning percentage against non-divisional rivals. If I would accept that AFCE is so week, I would expect more teams to beat a team like the Dolphins not barely half of them.

    But whatever gives you a relief from the inexplicable, go with it… 🙂

  20. nrings says:

    I think both the Steelers and the Patriots should be happy with how last year went, and should hope for repeats this season.

    After all, they both won their Super Bowls…

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    Good point. The Pat’s kind of play in 16 Super Bowls during the regular season. Every team will bring their best because New England is the team to beat. And it is basically the Super Bowl game for whoever is the opposing team. Not being wise, but it’s a big deal if you can win a game against the Patriots.

  21. For a league with so many resources at its disposal they struggle to get the simplest thing right. Schedules should be as balanced as possible for all teams. Obviously, not in entirety, but as close as possible.

  22. You know what’s unfair? Having a team get to play the Dolphins, Jets & Bill 2x per year!

    “Lookout for the AFC East!”

  23. KeepItReal says:
    April 17, 2019 at 11:31 pm
    DrKnow says:
    April 17, 2019 at 9:23 pm
    Don’t forget to mention this when they hoist the Lombardi again in February.
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    The Pats in the Bill B and Tom B era have not won back to back SBs, so there is that

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    um you havent been a fan for very long have you? they won back to back 2003 and 2004 season

  24. The Pats in the Bill B and Tom B era have not won back to back SBs, so there is that.
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    The Pats beat the Panthers in the 2004 SB and the Eagles in the 2005 SB. I know, they win so much its tough to keep track.

  25. observantfan says:
    April 18, 2019 at 6:49 am
    You have got to be kidding me! Patriots have the easiest schedule in the league again! It is the biggest joke that people slurp all over them year after year when they have the easiest schedule and the weakest division. What a farce of a dynasty complete farce!
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    Meltdown on aisle 5 again. What is the biggest joke is you believing your own silliness. Like was said earlier on this board is the Pats get whatever teams best because they are the team to beat. They also play a winners schedule every year and play the AFC Division champs every year but apparently you do not get that. Such a sad hater you are.

    As for the Steelers contingent it is going to be great playing the AFCN this year. The Pats have dominated that division more than any other in the Brady years.

    For those who say the Pats have never repeated as SB champs clearly have did not watch the 2003-04 seasons. They are the last franchise to win back to back. Come on haters. Try harder.

  26. You have got to be kidding me! Patriots have the easiest schedule in the league again! It is the biggest joke that people slurp all over them year after year when they have the easiest schedule and the weakest division. What a farce of a dynasty complete farce!
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    They play a first place schedule every year and rotate NFC divisions….just like every other team. They also take care of business in the playoffs more often than not. Want to move them to another division? Sure, take your pick. Just realize that the Pats pretty much dominate every team they have faced in the BB/TB era with the exception of Denver. No division can stop the Pats. If that were so, TB wouldn’t have 30 playoff wins.

  27. exinsidetrader says: “Thursday games should ONLY be played by BOTH teams coming off a bye. From the perspective of player safety to not do so is almost criminally negligent.”
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    Except that in the entire history of TNF, the injury rate is LOWER on Thursday games than both Sunday or Monday. But don’t let the FACTS get in the way of your rant. Please continue.

  28. Doesn’t matter. Both teams will reflect again this year what they’ve been over the years. Not a fan of either one but on the outside looking in … Lions will still struggle and Pats will still be decent.

  29. steelcurtainn says:
    April 17, 2019 at 9:57 pm
    New England can’t win back to back anyways so doesn’t really matter. Plus the chances of facing goff again is like one in a million.

    18 101 Rate This

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    ^This is rich right here.

    Bulletin board for spring and OTAs.

    Thanks!

  30. The rest of the AFCE has been inept during the Pats reign. Pretty undeniable, and obviously that helps them.

    But it’s not like that’s how it will be for all time. At some point, other teams will step up, and the dynamics will shift.

    I happen to think this is happening now. While the Phins are rebuilding, both the Jets and Bills seem to have finally found franchise QBs, and have both put in solid groundwork to build contenders.

    Obviously, the proof is in the pudding, and we won’t know until fall. But I definitely do not see this as a typical rinse-repeat year for the mighty Patriots.

  31. steelcurtainn says:
    April 17, 2019 at 9:57 pm
    New England can’t win back to back anyways so doesn’t really matter. Plus the chances of facing goff again is like one in a million.

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    They already did win back-to-back

  32. Brady and company have only won 30 playoff games and 6 SBs because they play weak teams… Kind of puts the silly haters argument to rest. I know this is wishful thinking and will not make a dent in their fascinating logic.

  33. Like every other team, the Patriots will play exactly 4 games against 1st place teams, 4 games against second place teams, 4 games against third place teams, and 4 games against fourth place teams

  34. No offense but the Patriots were (again) ranked as having the easiest schedule in the NFL. Again. By week schmy week. They have the easiest schedule in the NFL.

  35. If the Patriots played the last 20 years in the NFC East they would have maybe one Super Bowl win. Patriots fans need to wake up and realize the fact they have had zero competition. When they get to the playoffs it’s very easy for them to win

  36. It wont hurt the Pats….after all they have 6 wins before the season starts….Bills ….Jests…..and Fins.

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    Its actually 7, you forgot they also play the Steelers.

  37. The last 20 yrs the Pats are 14-6 against the NFCE, and that includes the SBowls. According to Vegas win projections, the NFCE is every bit as weak as the AFCE this yr. The Pats play the NFCE this yr. We’ll see what happens. IMO, at LEAST 3-1.

  38. It wont hurt the Pats….after all they have 6 wins before the season starts….Bills ….Jests…..and Fins.

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    Its actually 7, you forgot they also play the Steelers

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    They also play the Redskins, Bengals, Giants, so they have 10 wins and they get the Browns and Cowboys and KC at home.

  39. observantfan says:
    April 18, 2019 at 11:00 am
    If the Patriots played the last 20 years in the NFC East they would have maybe one Super Bowl win. Patriots fans need to wake up and realize the fact they have had zero competition. When they get to the playoffs it’s very easy for them to win

    Seems easy enough to frequently beat the mightiest teams both conferences have to offer , for nearly 20 years now. The NFCE had 3 close SB wins in the last 20 years. NE has 3 in the last 5 years.

  40. Notveryobservantfan says:
    April 18, 2019 at 11:00 am
    If the Patriots played the last 20 years in the NFC East they would have maybe one Super Bowl win. Patriots fans need to wake up and realize the fact they have had zero competition. When they get to the playoffs it’s very easy for them to win. Lol they dont pick who or what division they play in stop making excuses they show up and play whos on the schedule no excuses!

  41. angel valle… you worry about your own name and don’t change mine. I’ve been watching football for 40 years I know what I’m saying Patriots fans will never ever concede that they’ve been handed a cakewalk gift for the last 20 years. End of story no debate. The league has moved other teams to different conferences in the past and it seems to me if the Patriots were so great they should be welcoming the change to a tougher division to prove that they are good but we know that will never happen because the whole Dynasty is a farce

  42. If the Patriots played the last 20 years in the NFC East they would have maybe one Super Bowl win. Patriots fans need to wake up and realize the fact they have had zero competition. When they get to the playoffs it’s very easy for them to win
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    Its easy to just throw things against the wall and see what sticks. How’s this, if the Patriots played in the NFC North the last 20 years they would have 20 SB wins. Sounds ludicrous doesn’t it?

    How is it easy for the Pats to win playoff games? By nature, the teams in the playoffs are the best for that conference. Was it easy to play SD who was 9-0 on the road last year before coming to NE? How about playing KC in KC? Let’s try to deal with reality.

  43. You say the NFC east is tough?? Worst to first.. First to worst.. Least Romo got to see a Superbowl last year from inside the stadium. Cowboys, redskins, eagles have not been scaring anyone for 20 years and the giants had a couple of good runs but mainly have done little. NFC east… That’s funny.

  44. The Patriots have another tough schedule, especially considering they play in the AFC East, which has the second highest winning percentage against other divisions in the NFL. The Jets beat the Colts, The Bills beat the Vikings, the Dolphins beat the Steelers etc etc….but they just can’t beat the Patriots. The idea that the AFC East is weak is a myth. Outside the division they consistently beat teams from other divisions.

  45. Like every other team, the Patriots will play exactly 4 games against 1st place teams, 4 games against second place teams, 4 games against third place teams, and 4 games against fourth place teams
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    Except 6 of those games are static so if you’re in a weak division you have 6 games against teams routinely below .500 while division with more parity will have 4-6 games against teams around or above .500.

  46. you have 6 games against teams routinely below .500 while division with more parity will have 4-6 games against teams around or above .500.

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    Please name this stacked division where there are three teams at or above .500 consistently…..i’ll wait……

  47. KeepItReal says:
    April 17, 2019 at 11:31 pm
    DrKnow says:
    April 17, 2019 at 9:23 pm
    Don’t forget to mention this when they hoist the Lombardi again in February.
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    The Pats in the Bill B and Tom B era have not won back to back SBs, so there is that.

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    They did in 2003 and 2004

  48. I’ve been watching football for 40 years I know what I’m saying Patriots fans will never ever concede that they’ve been handed a cakewalk gift for the last 20 years. End of story no debate. The league has moved other teams to different conferences in the past and it seems to me if the Patriots were so great they should be welcoming the change to a tougher division to prove that they are good but we know that will never happen because the whole Dynasty is a farce

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    Handed to them? By whom?

    And since when is the NFL stating that they want to move teams around to different divisions or conferences? I haven’t heard they want to do this again. So, why would the Pats be welcoming to an idea that no one besides YOU is proposing?

    In the playoffs, didnt the Pats have to beat the best teams in the AFC 9 times to make it to the super bowl? I guess that was handed to them somehow?

    Didn’t the Pats have to beat the best team from the NFC in the Super Bowl 6 times? How does that have anything to do at all with the AFC East???

  49. Since 2002 realignment..
    These teams have had the greatest winning percentage gain in divisional games (easiest shed.)
    Indy .132 differential
    Pitt .112
    GB. .096
    SF. .068
    Sea. .059
    KC. .050

    These six have had the hardest time within their division…
    Cleve -.109
    Wash. -.096
    Buff. -.068
    Mia. -.053
    NYJ. -.046
    Chi. -.038

    NE is in the middle with a small disparity between division and non division games.

    Face it.

  50. To a certain point, any extra rest days depend on the team, especially if coming off the bye. Some teams play well coming off the bye, others tend to not be focused off of the bye week. If you are a team that historically doesn’t so well after the bye, then the extra days shouldn’t be viewed as a positive.

  51. KeepItReal says:
    April 17, 2019 at 11:31 pm
    DrKnow says:
    April 17, 2019 at 9:23 pm
    Don’t forget to mention this when they hoist the Lombardi again in February.
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    The Pats in the Bill B and Tom B era have not won back to back SBs, so there is that.
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    Unless you count Super Bowls 38 and 39…

  52. There’s no arguing with Patriots fans they will never ever admit it. It’s very simple to see when you have the easiest schedule for 16 games that gives you home field advantage throughout the playoffs every year it all you have to win is two games to get to the Super Bowl against tired teams that’s how you do it so I’m done arguing with Patriots fans that can’t see the real light ..good day

  53. There’s no arguing with Patriots fans they will never ever admit it. It’s very simple to see when you have the easiest schedule for 16 games that gives you home field advantage throughout the playoffs every year it all you have to win is two games to get to the Super Bowl against tired teams that’s how you do it so I’m done arguing with Patriots fans that can’t see the real light ..good day
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    Lolz. Picking up the lunchbox and heading home? Bottom line is you could put the Pats in any division and they would dominate. Just look at their record against other divisions outside the AFC east. Your argument would only hold water if they had losing or sub-par records outside of their own division.

    Maybe I’m mistaken, but didn’t the Pats have to play KC last year in KC? Didn’t KC have the #1 seed, also only having to play one prior playoff game at home?

  54. What I,ve noticed about this weak div arg: Pats fans bring indisputable facts. The jealous excuse makers bring: But..but.. Pats went 8-0 against playoff teams last yr.Case closed

  55. Tedmurph – Patriots fans repeat the same fact about record in and out of the division, and it’s largely irrelevant to the idea that the Pats have benefited from a weak division.

    How is the latter even disputable? Yes, the Patriots have been great – but even competent divisional competition would have likely made the difference in seeding and bye weeks over the years.

  56. Preseason strength of schedule means nothing. Nobody knows what teams are gonna do. Last season’s Pats sched, based on end of yr records was 17th. Mud pack for the SBowl Champs.

  57. One other thing about the schedule. In the past 5 seasons the NFL scheduled most of NE’s divisional games later in the season, probably to promote divisional race interest. In that span NE has proven to be most vulnerable in the first four games of the season having lost nearly 40% of their regular season losses in that span. Similarly nearly 40% of their losses have come against divisional foes in the past 5 regular seasons. It’s no surprise NE all of a sudden has 3 divisional games in their first 4. Its an attempt to even the division through schedule manipulation.

  58. observantfan says:
    April 18, 2019 at 2:28 pm
    There’s no arguing with Patriots fans they will never ever admit it. It’s very simple to see when you have the easiest schedule for 16 games that gives you home field advantage throughout the playoffs every year it all you have to win is two games to get to the Super Bowl against tired teams that’s how you do it so I’m done arguing with Patriots fans that can’t see the real light ..good day
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    Haha, so there’s no arguing with a Pats fan, huh? How about the folks here who hate them so much that they’ll downvote facts?

    The Pats won back to back SB’s 38 and 39 and the person who mentioned it gets downvoted. It’s literally a fact, no opinion offered, yet some fans are so envious or hate the Pats so much they can’t bring themselves to acknowledge it.

    What schedule would you fans like them to play? Go ahead, pick the 16 teams that they should have to play for the right to make the playoffs. I guarantee that if you did and they made the playoffs, you’d still complain it was an easy schedule.

    They play the best teams as a division winner – it’s not their fault that the other teams that they play can’t consistently stay good.

    Oh, and regarding the strength of schedule debate – of course their schedule is easier, they don’t have to play themselves!

  59. The disional competition doesn’t matter because it doesn’t matter whom the Pata play. They beat all at the same rate. Division gms are wars no matter how good or bad teams are. Teams build to win divisions

  60. ashleyschafferbmw says:
    April 18, 2019 at 3:40 pm
    joker65 says:
    April 18, 2019 at 11:34 am

    Its actually 7, you forgot they also play the Steelers.
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    Hmm i guess you didn’t watch football last season then.

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    You got me!!! Although, I’ll take that loss and the SB win….you can have the win and no playoffs…..

    Whats that now, Pats 11-3 vs Pitt last 15 years or so??

  61. observantfan
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    What a joke. Now its cleanup on aisle 1 thru 5. Maybe you should take a look in the mirror and honestly answer yourself why the Pats and their fans own you. You are not helping your case saying the Pats should move to a tougher division to prove their worth. That is a chestnut for the ages. Why don’t you just go off their 30-10 playoff record the past 20 years. A 75% win margain beating playoff teams not good enough for you? Your 40 years of watching football has not done you too well.

  62. For the last time Patriots fans I’m talking about the last 20 years don’t Reference last year when they got lucky against Kansas City that the guy was offside or gets game over interception Brady .the last 20 years the NFC East has been at the top . And the Patriots simply cannot play a physical style of football for an entire year they’re built to go against Patsy’s in their division

  63. observantfan says:
    April 18, 2019 at 2:28 pm
    There’s no arguing with Patriots fans they will never ever admit it. It’s very simple to see when you have the easiest schedule for 16 games that gives you home field advantage throughout the playoffs every year it all you have to win is two games to get to the Super Bowl against tired teams that’s how you do it so I’m done arguing with Patriots fans that can’t see the real light ..good day
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    I don’t remember the Chiefs traveling to Foxboro in January. Do you?

    I’d also like you to list every year that the patriots have gone 6-0 in their division. Seriously. I can name ONE time. ONE. That’s it. Yet I constantly see “the pats get 6 easy wins every year”. Since you clearly failed to observe the AFCCG in KC this year, you also must have failed to observe that the Dolphins, you know, one of those teams that “the pats always beat” has beaten them down in Miami repeatedly, and cost them home field advantage in the playoffs twice in the last 4 years

  64. It won’t matter to the Pats. The team is conditioned to never look at adversity in a victim mentality. They are taught that “We play the schedule and it is what it is. We have no control over that so lets deal with those things we do have control over”. It’s Belichick…he teaches them how to nullify negativity and not allow it to permeate the teams mentality.

  65. Steelcurtain said that the Patriots can’t win back to back. That’s funny. What is funnier than that is if the steelers make the playoffs this year “it will not be back to back”. It will be one in a row.

  66. billsrthefuture says:
    April 18, 2019 at 9:16 am
    The rest of the AFCE has been inept during the Pats reign. Pretty undeniable, and obviously that helps them.
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    I don’t have the facts but I wonder how many AFCE teams missed the playoffs by one or two games because they had to play the Patriots twice a year?? Yes, There have been weak teams in that division but name me a division that doesn’t have weak teams. Tell me when the Patriots won a division with a 9-7 record. The “easy schedule” excuse is just that, an excuse for others failures to be able to compete and win. I get the jealousy. I’m old enough to admire the 60’s Packers, hate the seventies Steelers, hate the 80’s 49’s and the 90’s Cowboys. Fans want to see their team win and when the same team wins consistently well, that stinks. That the Patriots have been that consistent winner for two decades makes the stink twice as bad but there is a remedy. Beat them.

  67. The Patriots are every teams measuring stick. Teams that beat them act as if they are suddenly contenders. But then lose the following week. What division do you want them in? NFC North? 3-1 VS them last year. AFC West? That division with KC AND SD… Ummm been there and done that. I tell you what.. Put 31 teams in one division and The Patriots in another and the Patriots will still win. Or split the Patriots up and put them in both conferences, but then you would have to watch a Patriots VS Patriots superbowl. I hope one day they find a cure for the haters constant whining but until then I will enjoy hearing grown-ups cry.

  68. Steelers missed the playoffs because they beat the Patriots… Nope… It’s because they tied the browns. I believe they lost some games after they beat the Patriots. They were so happy after that game. I felt sorry for them so I started a go fund me page. Now I have to determine how to divide up $2 that was contributed.

  69. Pats are done, finally. Lost most of their talent and will rely on Brady more than ever.

    Oh – and he’ll be 42.

  70. Riddle me this you “Patriots are done” talkers.Have you seen the stable of running backs the Patriots have, that Oline, how about that defense that got better week after week? What “talent” have they lost? Gronk… We won games without him.. Hogan… Ummm really. During the Patriots “1st dynasty” (they have 2) how many yards did Brady average? The Patriots have lost talent before(virtually a whole probowl team) and are now attempting to win #7. Yawn… You bore me.

  71. They have very little talent left. BB is a great coach, but it won’t be enough.

    8-8 this year. Then Brady will retire, and it will be a full rebuild.

  72. I appreciate your enthusiasm billsrthefuture (one of my ex-coworkers is a diehard bills fan and put a bills license plate on my car) but hoping for something based on nothing is nothing to hope for. The Patriots do not rebuild they prepare. On paper the Patriots should not have 6 superbowl wins, but they do. Last season it was the “gauntlet of edge rushers” the Patriots had to face, how many sacks, pressures did they get? The bears, chargers, chiefs etc. Even the colts had 17 sacks before they played the Patriots. BB game plans to beat the team for that week. Are they a running team, passing team? Yes. It is hard to defend against the unpredictable. I am a die hard Patriots fan. But I rarely draft them in FF… Reality is different. When and if BBs style is obsolete, then and only then will I doubt it. Basing it on things other than facts is hoping.

  73. billsrthefuture says:
    April 20, 2019 at 4:55 pm
    They have very little talent left. BB is a great coach, but it won’t be enough.

    8-8 this year. Then Brady will retire, and it will be a full rebuild.
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    First – I want what you are smoking. I like the Bills passionate fans. What you have in passion you lack in smarts. Keep up your wishful thinking because someday you might be right.

  74. Fair enough, Mike & Danny. I’d be talking the same way if I was a Pats fan.

    I’m not someone who has predicted the Pats decline every year. But this year, I see it. It almost seems like BB is challenging himself to try to win with as little to work with as possible, because there are few challenges left for him.

    And there is finally some competition in the division. I think both the Bills and Jets will surprise people this year.

    It’s been an amazing run. Some time in the wilderness will be good for Pats fans. It builds character.

  75. The Patriots have remained consistent through two decades by adapting to what others allow them to do. You going to 7 dbs, they run. You going to try and stop the run, they throw. They switch their game plan at the drop of a hat. What’s their identity? Who do you try to stop? FF players hate BB for that reason. Their “best player” changes from week to week. The wilderness, as you call it, is BBs backyard. Like I mentioned before, the Patriots have had their roster depleted by FA, Trades, injuries, cuts etc. But they consistently make the playoffs. Lose a LT, DL, DE, WR, RB, CB, COACH, FRONT OFFICE it doesn’t phase them. Last season they wrote off the Patriots because they were not winning like people were used to… But they were winning. Bradys “stats” suffered but they were winning. The Patriots know that in order to win they have to score a TD.Every other team it’s “I” have to score a TD. BB uses all his players to complete his goal and he makes them believe that they are the missing piece. It’s 53 players against a handful of stars.. More often than not.. It works.

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