Donovan McNabb sees next two years as critical for Carson Wentz

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The Eagles have gone all in with Carson Wentz, as expected. But expectations remain high for a team that won a Super Bowl two years ago and got surprisingly close to a return in 2018, without Wentz under center for the postseason run.

With the guy who won a Super Bowl and took the team surprisingly close to a return in 2018 now gone, the pressure falls on Wentz to deliver. A former Eagles quarterback who took the team to four straight NFC title games (and one Super Bowl) has an opinion regarding the leeway that the second pick in the 2016 draft should receive.

“I think in the next . . . two years or so he has to find a way to get . . .  out of the second round of the playoffs,” Donovan McNabb told Zach Gelb of CBS Sports Radio. McNabb said that, if Wentz doesn’t do that, the Eagles should consider their options at the position, pointing out that the success of Nick Foles “proves . . . that some people can get into that offense and be very successful.”

“If [Wentz] can’t get out of the second round they should look to possibly draft another quarterback because you just don’t know about his durability,” McNabb said. “Staying healthy is very key in this league.”

Whether the Eagles share McNabb’s view isn’t known. The best evidence will come from whether, and when, Wentz gets a new contract. The Eagles undoubtedly will exercise his fifth-year option before the looming May 3 deadline. The bigger question is whether they’ll transform the remainder of his rookie deal into a long-term contract, or whether a year from now Wentz will be in the same position as the first two picks in 2015 (Jameis Winston and Marcus Mariota), entering the option year with no commitment beyond it.

Plenty of Eagles fans remain skeptical of Wentz, and loyal to Foles. That same attitude apparently lurks in the locker room, given the leaks regarding Wentz (that weren’t decried by him as “fake news“) and the Jobu-style shrine that was built for Foles last season. If Wentz can’t stay healthy and/or can’t take the team to the same level of success that Foles did, maybe the long-term play for the franchise will be to resort to the drawing board, and look for a new franchise quarterback.

That said, Wentz has the ability to do everything Foles did, and more. The first key will be to stay healthy. The second key will be to operate within the confines of the offense, a burden that applies equally to Wentz and to the coaching staff, which can become sufficiently intoxicated by Wentz’s skills to stray from the plan. The third key will be having enough help around him to get the team to where it can go, and it can go very far with Wentz.

46 responses to “Donovan McNabb sees next two years as critical for Carson Wentz

  1. The injury history worries me a bit with Wentz, but assuming he can stay off IR, his performance has been solid overall when healthy and I think he’s going to remain strong… especially with a strong surrounding cast. Will miss Foles and wish him luck, but he wasn’t the long term QB answer.

  2. Carson needs to make sure he can play a full season. Donovan is completely wrong about moving on from Carson if the TEAM doesn’t go past the 2nd round of the playoffs.

  3. McNabb can become “sufficiently intoxicated” in trying to interpret the new overtime rules….

  4. >.“If [Wentz] can’t get out of the second round they should look to possibly draft another quarterback because you just don’t know about his durability,”

    1. draft a QB

    2. over the next 4 years determine if he’s an excellent QB

    3. If just good, but not excellent, let him go and draft again

    4. spend 6 years looking for a QB who is above average, wish you still had the guy you let go 6 years ago, as you toil in last for many years

    5. go to step 1

  5. McNabb never fully-understood Philly. That’s fine, the majority doesn’t.
    But yeah, I guess if it doesn’t go well Carson will turn into a diva-alcoholic while overweight?

  6. Wentz’s health is a major concern. If 100% healthy, he is a franchise QB. We will see if he can get back to 100% and stay there.

    As for McNabb, who had durability issues as well a fragile psyche, the Eagles would probably have been better off moving on from him much sooner than they did. No one played tight in a big game more than Donovan J. McNabb. I re-watched Super Bowl 39 last year for the first time since watching it live, and the main thing that stuck out to me was how poorly McNabb played. That was a winnable game. Same with the NFC Championship games that McNabb always choked in. McNabb should shut his pie hole.

  7. lolol at fans crapping on McNabb…lettuce know when Carlson Wince wins a playoff game…

  8. OK. So Wentz is no longer the shiney penny. Mayfield, Mahomes are the IT girls now. That’s fine. Foles will never buy a drink in Philly again, and that is how it should be. It’s also a fact that without Wentz, the Eagles never get to SB LII. The investment they made in Wentz has already paid off if he never does another thing. And until these other young quarterbacks “who have gotten to the playoffs” get that ring, they will always be looking up at Wentz.

  9. Donovan’s input here is as valuable as his input on off season conditioning program for players.

  10. totalder says:

    Will miss Foles and wish him luck, but he wasn’t the long term QB answer.
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    In that offense, yes he was.

  11. Funny you of all people would say that because your best year was your 6th year when you threw for 31 TDs. You only threw for 21, 25, 31, 23, 22 TDs, 5 times over 20 TDs during your 13 year career

  12. With his injury history and now a “bad” back I certainly wouldn’t bite on that fifth year option. Me thinks they traded the wrong QB.

  13. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    April 20, 2019 at 11:26 am
    The Eagles let the wrong QB walk

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    You people are delusional. You guys realize Foles has had some very bad games with the Eagles too right? Even in the playoffs as he was bad vs the Falcons, Bears, and last 3 qtrs vs the Saints. Those are 3 playoff games he stunk in. It’s literally just cause he won a SB that everyone is obsessed. He is a very limited QB though.

    It’s hilarious that y’all forget Wentz is who got them basically to 11-2 where they could easily get the #1 seed. Wentz did all the heavy lifting and was gonna be the MVP of the league or did we forget?

    Eagles kept the better QB!!!

  14. kuharich says:
    April 20, 2019 at 11:35 am

    It’s also a fact that without Wentz, the Eagles never get to SB LII.
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    Now I know you Eagles fans like to think it is but that’s not a fact because it’s something we’ll never really know, but there is one fact we all know for sure because it did actually happened = the Eagles DIDN’T need Wentz to win the SB, so what’s that say?

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    rogobrothers says:
    April 20, 2019 at 10:12 am

    I don’t remember Wentz ever throwing up in an important game.

    dryzzt23 says:
    April 20, 2019 at 10:37 am

    What exactly did McNabb ever accomplish?
    I don’t need to hear from or about McNabb ever again.

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    1. I don’t remember Wentz ever making it to an important game.

    2. What exactly has McNabb accomplished? 5 NFC Title game and 1 Super Bowl Appearance. How many of those has Wentz gotten to again?

    Look, I don’t like McNabb and have dogged him as much as anybody, but you Wentz fans need to settle down.

  16. What is remarkable about Carson Yutz is his lack of durability – I don’t see how the Philthydelphia football team can go all in on a guy who has never demonstrated he can be a 16 plus game QB. Right now he has no playoff experience and has never driven his team into the playoffs. I’d be very afraid if I were this team – and he has demonstrated he is not the most brilliant player and lacks serious common sense – he puts himself into the jaws of injury.

  17. Wentz was regularly getting pounded last year behind very shaky o-line play. It’s no wonder he wound up with a fracture in his back. The o-line was just starting to come together when he left after that Cowboys game. And yet he still managed to put up basically the same numbers as Foles and finished ahead of Rodgers, Watson, Cam, and Cousins in total QBR.

    He also gave his defense two 17 point 4th quarter leads, which they could not hold.

    How any of this amounts to the seat under Wentz getting hotter is beyond me.

  18. You can’t evaluate a single player based on the entire team’s performance. If Wentz can stay healthy and play like he did in 2017 he’s one of the best QB’s in football. If he keeps getting injured or his production slips then you have a problem.

  19. I can’t hear the Foles complaints over the sound of his 2017 playoff highlight reel or the highlights of his 27 TD 2 pick season. Nothing says limited like a 119 rating season.
    The only thing limited about him is the IQ of people still questioning him.

    Foles always finds ways to win games on non ‘moving from St Louis Jeff Fisher teams’. Its time for Wentz to stop finding ways to lose games like he did last year.

    Post-Easter Resurrection to the Redskins (his dad’s words) McNabb is a pathetic joke. I bet his mom is rooting against Wentz so his stats don’t make Donny look bad. No one cares what a 2x drunk driver who was fired for harassment has to say about current players.

  20. @totalder says:
    April 20, 2019 at 9:46 am
    The injury history worries me a bit with Wentz, but assuming he can stay off IR, his performance has been solid overall when healthy and I think he’s going to remain strong… especially with a strong surrounding cast. Will miss Foles and wish him luck, but he wasn’t the long term QB answer.
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    Dummy it doesnt matter how he plays it’s about chemistry wentz had good numbers this year yet team couldn’t win with him. Eagle play harder and better with roles

  21. therealtrenches says:
    April 20, 2019 at 4:10 pm
    Wentz was regularly getting pounded last year behind very shaky o-line play. It’s no wonder he wound up with a fracture in his back. The o-line was just starting to come together when he left after that Cowboys game. And yet he still managed to put up basically the same numbers as Foles and finished ahead of Rodgers, Watson, Cam, and Cousins in total QBR.

    He also gave his defense two 17 point 4th quarter leads, which they could not hold.

    How any of this amounts to the seat under Wentz getting hotter is beyond me.
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    Eagles blew a 20 point lead vs Texans with foles yet won with foles good job mocking yourself

  22. cadreamer1969 says:
    April 20, 2019 at 1:24 pm
    Funny you of all people would say that because your best year was your 6th year when you threw for 31 TDs. You only threw for 21, 25, 31, 23, 22 TDs, 5 times over 20 TDs during your 13 year career
    *******
    Stats don’t win games if you paid attention wentz had great stats tho users yet team was under 500 with him

  23. fmc651 says:
    April 20, 2019 at 11:50 am
    Donovan’s input here is as valuable as his input on off season conditioning program for players
    *******
    Wentz 2 out of 3 losing seasons and zero playoff wins enough said

  24. schmedley69 says:
    April 20, 2019 at 10:54 am
    Wentz’s health is a major concern. If 100% healthy, he is a franchise QB. We will see if he can get back to 100% and stay there.

    As for McNabb, who had durability issues as well a fragile psyche, the Eagles would probably have been better off moving on from him much sooner than they did. No one played tight in a big game more than Donovan J. McNabb. I re-watched Super Bowl 39 last year for the first time since watching it live, and the main thing that stuck out to me was how poorly McNabb played. That was a winnable game. Same with the NFC Championship games that McNabb always choked in. McNabb should shut his pie hole
    *******
    Doesn’t matter if wentz is healthy eagles play better with foles

  25. ncintron76 says:
    April 20, 2019 at 9:51 am
    Carson needs to make sure he can play a full season. Donovan is completely wrong about moving on from Carson if the TEAM doesn’t go past the 2nd round of the playoffs.
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    Your right wentz needs to at the very least get to a super bowl in the next year foles put up 41 vs belihcok

  26. rogobrothers says:
    April 20, 2019 at 10:12 am
    I don’t remember Wentz ever throwing up in an important game
    ******* because wentz the virus has never even been in an important game

  27. kuharich says:
    April 20, 2019 at 11:35 am
    OK. So Wentz is no longer the shiney penny. Mayfield, Mahomes are the IT girls now. That’s fine. Foles will never buy a drink in Philly again, and that is how it should be. It’s also a fact that without Wentz, the Eagles never get to SB LII. The investment they made in Wentz has already paid off if he never does another thing. And until these other young quarterbacks “who have gotten to the playoffs” get that ring, they will always be looking up at Wentz.
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    Foles made the playoffs this year with a worse roster and foles wn all the playoff games so without wentz foles made the playoffs and without wentz foles won all the playoff games so every5hing you said is false

  28. Foles made the playoffs this year with a worse roster and foles wn all the playoff games so without wentz foles made the playoffs and without wentz foles won all the playoff games so every5hing you said is false

    Not sure what the argument is, but that’s OK.

  29. danny woodson says:
    April 20, 2019 at 8:42 pm
    therealtrenches says:
    April 20, 2019 at 4:10 pm
    Wentz was regularly getting pounded last year behind very shaky o-line play. It’s no wonder he wound up with a fracture in his back. The o-line was just starting to come together when he left after that Cowboys game. And yet he still managed to put up basically the same numbers as Foles and finished ahead of Rodgers, Watson, Cam, and Cousins in total QBR.

    He also gave his defense two 17 point 4th quarter leads, which they could not hold.

    How any of this amounts to the seat under Wentz getting hotter is beyond me.
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    Eagles blew a 20 point lead vs Texans with foles yet won with foles good job mocking yourself

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    “mocking myself?” Chilll, dude. I wasn’t mocking anyone else in the first place.

    And think instead of reacting emotionally.

    The Eagles got the ball back in the game vs. the Texans. And they only needed a FG to win.

    The Titans scored a walkoff TD, so there was nothing either QB could do in that situation. And although the Eagles got the ball back v. the Panthers, they were down by 4 and needed a TD. Wentz drove them deep into Panther territory but couldn’t finish the job. Sure, it’s possible that Foles could have converted a TD v. the Panthers, but really…aren’t we splitting hairs?

    I’m only suggesting that Wentz shouldn’t be on the hotseat. I don’t think that’s an outrageous suggestion.

  30. I’m only suggesting that Wentz shouldn’t be on the hotseat. I don’t think that’s an outrageous suggestion.

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    If they didn’t give up a clutch, championship winning QB in Foles, then I agree that Wentz has enough upside to not be on the hotseat (health concerns aside). But they did give up Foles. So now Wentz has to prove them right. That’s definitely a hot seat and a high standard to live up to.

  31. I see this season not only as critical for Wentz but it will be the breaking point because if he can’t stay healthy for the entire season(that’d be 3yrs in a row he ended the season on injuried) I can see the Eagles looking for another QB in next years draft because as they say “a players best ability is his availability”, if you’re not available(sitting on the bench) then you’re basically worthless to a team!

  32. @rogobrothers says:
    April 20, 2019 at 10:12 am
    I don’t remember Wentz ever throwing up in an important game.
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    Of course you don’t remember because Carson has yet to play in one as important as the SB. McNabb rallied them from 24-6 deficit in title game in Phoenix only to watch Jim Johnson’s defense give it away. McNabb had his moments, both good and bad. However Wentz so far has shown he’s injury prone and locks on his BFF while ignoring other open receivers.

  33. Pieces around him? Eagles had pieces around him 2 consecutive years but unfortunately he wasn’t healthy to see it through. Jury will always be out until he delivers.

  34. He’s a far better QB than Mariota or Winston. But like most teams, as they age and players move on, every year it’s a different locker room and there is different play on the field.

  35. cletuspstillwaterjr says:
    April 20, 2019 at 9:40 am
    The next two years are critical for every player in the NFL including the punters. That is some solid football analysis there Donovan.

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    Wrong…not for franchise QBs unless, like Wentz, they become injured two years in a row where his backup actually won the SB and had a decent playoff run the following year when everyone had little expectations. If Wentz does get injured at some point next season then McNabb is correct. You have to look at his durability and possible replacement. What’s the point of a franchise QB if he can’t stay on the field.

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