Gil Brandt: Daniel Jones and Peyton Manning “the same guy”

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Perhaps it shouldn’t be a surprise that some team has Duke quarterback Daniel Jones ranked first at his position on their draft board.

Because a Hall of Fame evaluator has compared him to one of the top quarterbacks of all time.

Via Ryan Dunleavy of NJ.com, veteran scout and SiriusXM NFL Radio analyst Gil Brandt gave Jones some of the highest praise possible.

“I. Love. Dan Jones,” Brandt said. “I have to say this carefully: When you watch him and you go back (20) years and watch Peyton Manning, you are watching the same guy. He’s athletic. He doesn’t have a rocket for an arm, but neither did Peyton. Very smart.”

Some comparisons are natural, because of their similar builds and coaching (Duke coach David Cutcliffe was an early Manning mentor and still works with Eli Manning in the offseasons). But Brandt said that Jones began to stand out on his own in an environment that wasn’t always conducive to passing success.

“He had an opportunity to have a full scholarship to Princeton,” Brandt said of Jones. “He said, ‘No, I’m better [at football] than that. I want to walk-on at Duke.’ He completed 60 percent of his passes but they didn’t have any great receivers there to catch the ball.

“He had an unbelievable workout a month or so ago. A lot of people have turned to like him.”

And while a comparison to a future Hall of Famer might not be fair to any player, it’s clear Jones will be a first-rounder, as someone will definitely take a chance on a guy with so many valuable traits.

60 responses to “Gil Brandt: Daniel Jones and Peyton Manning “the same guy”

  1. Manning wasn’t athletic. He had pocket awareness. Manning was also a “no brainer” #1 pick. There’s a reason Gil is on the radio and not in a draft war room…

  2. Comparing Jones to P.Manning is comical unless you’re talking about fitting him for a suit, and to value a workout over actual performances is a great way to pick the wrong player in a draft. Taking Jones in the 1st round over the obvious abundance of quality dlineman, o lineman, wr/te & corners is a future regret for sure, but all means, have at him. My team won’t be drafting a qb in any round, so I’d love for any team to take Jones in the first while leaving real 1st rnd & 2nd round talent on the board.

  3. Gil Brandt is 86 yrs old. Full dementia has set in and his comments shouldn’t be given much credibility at this point.

    Gil did pluck Roger Staubach out of the 1964 draft. A 10th round future draft pick(Roger had to fufill his 4 yr Naval committment before entering the NFL)

    Gil Brandt was a great NFL talent evaluater in his day. Gil is from Milwaukee Wisconsin and I wish him well, but I don’t pay attention to anything he says anymore.

  4. I wouldnt mind taking a chance on him if the fins can trade down. At 13 theres too many other good players still available

  5. tonyzendejas says:
    April 20, 2019 at 9:53 am
    So Jones will finish his career with 9 playoff one-and-dones?
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    …and 2 Super Bowl rings! More than Rodgers, Farve, Marino, Esiason, Kelly, Rivers, etc. Best ever is Brady. Manning is right behind him!

  6. Comparing Jones to P.Manning is comical unless you’re talking about fitting him for a suit, and to value a workout over actual performances is a great way to pick the wrong player in a draft.
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    Not sure I agree with the rest of what you wrote, but this I agree with strongly. Honestly I’ve never seen Daniel Jones play, but you should never draft a player based solely on his workout (or on combine performance). The workouts and the combine should confirm what you already know, not change your mind.

  7. Gil Brandt WAS a great talent evaluator for his time. He’s a nice guy, who’s on NFL Radio on a regular basis, but I trust the PFF guys and Collinsworth who study every throw and every play by each player. They are saying 2nd or 3rd round talent. Take out the first three weeks of last year’s season and he probably wouldn’t be more than a mid-round pick.

  8. The guy couldn’t even get a FOOTBALL scholarship at DUKE and he’s the same as Peyton Manning?

  9. ALL YOU PRO GUYS DON’T WATCH THE COLLEGE GAME. HE SINGLEHANDEDLY CARRIED A WEAK DUKE TEAM. BRADY WAS WHAT, A FIFTH ROUND PICK? TRY WATCHING SOME COLLEGE GAMES BEFORE Y’ALL SHOOT YOUR MOUTHS.

  10. dualprime says:
    April 20, 2019 at 10:10 am
    …and 2 Super Bowl rings! More than Rodgers, Farve, Marino, Esiason, Kelly, Rivers, etc. Best ever is Brady. Manning is right behind him!
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    Montana was the GOAT before Brady usurped him. Manning is in the top 5 but was carried to his 2nd title despite a terrible game (and worst ever season rating for an SB-winning QB) thanks to Wade’s D, and loads of HGH. Even in his earlier SB win, Mannings’ passer rating was a mere 81 – he always underperformed in the playoffs (unlike the likes of Brady and Montana).

  11. “ALL YOU PRO GUYS DON’T WATCH THE COLLEGE GAME.”

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    Why are you yelling?😩

    I hope you do realize that people can watch both pro and college football. It is not a either or proposition.

  12. Gil Brandt might not be able to look at 500 players anymore, but he still knows how to evaluate the guys he looks at. I would take Gil’s opinion over 90% of the current NFL GM’s, and 99% of the current NFL scouts. That’s part of the reason one team has been able to win 6 super bowls recently.

  13. Apparently, Gil got the 4/20 celebration started early. Talk about a smokescreen. No disrespect to the HOF legend but I feel that this evaluation is a little half baked.

  14. Too little value is placed on intelligence. Dim wits with loads of talent are still dim wits and there’s no way to fix it.

  15. So you’re saying he’s going to get drafted by a team that plays in a dome, spends every draft pick on offense and the commissioner is going make sure they rewrite the rules to favor him? Oh and then when he gets married his pregnant wife is going to order a ton of HgH and say it was for her but he’s secretly going to eat it like gummy bears after he realizes his arm couldn’t out throw a 7th grader in a long ball competition?

  16. Even with their alleged similarities, the one HUGE difference that cant be denied… Peyton played for Tennessee – in the SEC. Duke doesnt play in the SEC.

    Thats considerably higher level College competition to compare “how similar” they played in college

  17. Lots of triggered Brady fanboys out there. 2 legit rings vs zero legit rings says it all.

    About this guy though, I can see what Brandt is saying and it would be hilarious yet awesome if the Cards shocked everyone and drafted this kid over the agenda picks.

  18. Bummer. thought belichick might make a move to get him but no way if he’s a hog at the cap trough and wilts under big game pressure like you know who.

  19. Whoa! Whoa! Whoa ho ho! Daniel Jones = Peyton Manning? Let’s just tap the brakes a little on that one and see how Daniel pans out in the pros.

  20. Peyton Manning is a top 5 quarterback of all time, but let’s get some things right. He threw 3 touchdowns to 5 interceptions in four super bowls, had an average passer-rating of 76.4 in these super bowls, he had 9 playoff career one-and-dones after leading teams to over 12 wins in the regular season, he won his first ring throwing 3 touchdowns to 7 interceptions on the 2006 Colts’ championship team in the post-season, and won his second ring on the Broncos throwing 9 touchdowns to 17 interceptions with the lowest QBR for a quarterback on a super bowl winning team in NFL history. He just wasn’t clutch. No system teaches that.

  21. I think people misunderstood Brandt. he didn’t compare him to Manning, he compared him to Ryan Leaf.

  22. Yeah but Gil also likes that Paxton guy a couple of years ago and Denver took him!! See how that turned out!! LOL

  23. I’m a Tar Heel guy, and I still like Jones. He’s no Peyton, but he’s a pretty good prospect. He’s a smart cookie, good frame, fairly solid mechanics, and coachable.

    If my team needed a quarterback, now or in the next 3 years, and Jones is there at say … 25th pick or later, I’m taking the chance on him.

  24. With the exception of 2015, Brady and Montana always had better defenses. They could win games 13-3 and 20-17 while Peyton would lose 31-17 or 38-35.

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    streetyson says:

    Montana was the GOAT before Brady usurped him. Manning is in the top 5 but was carried to his 2nd title despite a terrible game (and worst ever season rating for an SB-winning QB) thanks to Wade’s D, and loads of HGH. Even in his earlier SB win, Mannings’ passer rating was a mere 81 – he always underperformed in the playoffs (unlike the likes of Brady and Montana).

  25. streetyson says:
    April 20, 2019 at 10:33 am
    dualprime says:
    April 20, 2019 at 10:10 am
    …and 2 Super Bowl rings! More than Rodgers, Farve, Marino, Esiason, Kelly, Rivers, etc. Best ever is Brady. Manning is right behind him!
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    Montana was the GOAT before Brady usurped him. Manning is in the top 5 but was carried to his 2nd title despite a terrible game (and worst ever season rating for an SB-winning QB) thanks to Wade’s D, and loads of HGH. Even in his earlier SB win, Mannings’ passer rating was a mere 81 – he always underperformed in the playoffs (unlike the likes of Brady and Montana).
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    Okay! But Manning still has 2 Super Bowl rings! More than Rodgers, Farve, Marino, Esiason, Kelly, Rivers, etc.

    I liked Montana too, but he DID get usurped by Steve Young!

  26. las0023 says:
    April 20, 2019 at 12:27 pm
    With the exception of 2015, Brady and Montana always had better defenses. They could win games 13-3 and 20-17 while Peyton would lose 31-17 or 38-35.

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    streetyson says:

    Montana was the GOAT before Brady usurped him.

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    Montana, like zero legit rings Brady, was never the GOAT. He also at no point was usurped as anything by the known cheater playing on the dirtiest sports franchise in history. Ottomatic Otto and his 7 legitimate Championships sends his regards, though.

  27. I know football is a team sport but someone remind me how many games Jones won at Duke. Buyer beware! If you want mediocre, go for it.

  28. Yep. 21 year-old Daniel Jones and 43 year-old post shoulder/neck surgery Peyton Manning … same guy.

    That’s not a good thing, right?

  29. woltroff says: “Yeah but Gil also likes that Paxton guy a couple of years ago and Denver took him!! See how that turned out!! LOL”
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    Complete BS. Here’s the quote by Gil Brandt on Paxton: “Lynch is the consensus third-best quarterback in the draft, but he’s not in the same category as Wentz and Goff. He has good size, a strong arm and a lot of tools, but he’s inconsistent, lacks experience and will need some time to adjust to the pro game. He could be around at the end of the first round for the Broncos, who could groom him behind whatever veteran they bring in to be their starter.”

    It’s clear that Gil thought Paxton was a work-in-progress QB project and wasn’t NFL-ready, which he was exactly RIGHT.

  30. …and 2 Super Bowl rings! More than Rodgers, Farve, Marino, Esiason, Kelly, Rivers, etc. Best ever is Brady. Manning is right behind him!
    —————-
    Montana was the GOAT before Brady usurped him. Manning is in the top 5 but was carried to his 2nd title despite a terrible game (and worst ever season rating for an SB-winning QB) thanks to Wade’s D, and loads of HGH. Even in his earlier SB win, Mannings’ passer rating was a mere 81 – he always underperformed in the playoffs (unlike the likes of Brady and Montana).

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    Montana is still the GOAT. If he played in today’s pass happy game, he would far outplay Brady. 2 different games in 2 different eras.

  31. jkossrt says: “Montana is still the GOAT. If he played in today’s pass happy game, he would far outplay Brady. 2 different games in 2 different eras.”
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    Doesn’t matter what “today’s pass happy game” is. Montana competed with 31 other QBs under the exact same rules back then, just like Brady competes against 31 QBs now under current rules. Fact is that Brady has greatly dominated over his existing competition makes him the GOAT and not because of meaningless statistics.

  32. jkossrt says:
    April 20, 2019 at 2:51 pm

    Montana is still the GOAT. If he played in today’s pass happy game, he would far outplay Brady. 2 different games in 2 different eras.

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    Montana’s defense had 7 interceptions in four super bowls. This doesn’t get talked about enough. Brady’s defense never had two picks in a single super bowl. The most points Cool Joe’s defense allowed was 20 points. Brady’s defense allowed 29 points against the Panthers, 24 points against the Eagles, 24 points against the Seahawks, 21 points against the Falcons, and 41 points against the Eagles. Just think about all of that for a minute. Although some of these numbers are still good, those Niners’ defenses were superior. Ultimately, more talented, that’s for sure.

    Brady led 6 super bowl game-winning drives. Not only did he overcome more adversity on the grandest stage, he ended up winning more super bowls, playoff games, and MVPs. As for the rule changes, Brady and Peyton accumulated their stats under the older rules in the earlier 2000’s. Just watch the older games. He’s the 7th most sacked quarterback in the history of the game. It’s not like he hasn’t taken big hits in his career. Remember Nate Clements’ hit on Brady?

  33. ricko1112 says:
    April 20, 2019 at 9:32 am
    Manning wasn’t athletic. He had pocket awareness. Manning was also a “no brainer” #1 pick. There’s a reason Gil is on the radio and not in a draft war room…
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    Gil Brandt is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame due to his efforts as vice president of player personnel for the Dallas Cowboys. Soooo, yeah, he’s spent many years in a draft war room and is in the Hall of Fame because of it.

  34. jkossrt says:
    April 20, 2019 at 2:51 pm

    Montana is still the GOAT. If he played in today’s pass happy game, he would far outplay Brady. 2 different games in 2 different eras.
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    The West Coast Offense was “pass happy”. You ever heard of Jerry Rice and Dwight Clark?

  35. jkossrt –

    Without getting into a useless argument about who’s better than who, I’ll just say this:
    Montana won 3 of his 4 SBs behind a great teams, but the 81’ Niners, Montana’s first SB team, was mediocre at best; though the defense was probably the better of the two sides of that team, but best of it’s parts were rookies; Lott & Eric Wright. That 81’ team was all Montana, and it’s arguably one of the least talented teams to ever win a SB. Colin Cowshat has mentioned before how Montana always played and won behind great teams, but obviously Colin Cowshat was speaking from his arse when he made that statement, and was apparently watching Sesame Street and not the NFL in the early 80s.
    Cheers!

  36. mmack66-

    Again, no point in arguing who’s best, but the it’s not the types of offenses that’s reason been stats and points increasing over the last 40 yrs, it’s the changes to the rules that have made the biggest differences. Just to name a few, allowing for QBs to throw away the ball without being penalized for grounding, and giving them a hands off rule if sliding feet first on runs, are just a couple in a long list of rule changes that helped to increase production and points, as well as giving QBs longing careers. This is just one reason why it’s impossible to make any real argument when trying to compare players from different eras. This much is true, Brady and Montana are/were much better QBs than Peyton, who was a great QB, but not even close to greatest territory. Cheers

  37. tonyzendejas says:
    April 20, 2019 at 9:53 am
    So Jones will finish his career with 9 playoff one-and-dones?
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    …and 2 Super Bowl rings! More than Rodgers, Farve, Marino, Esiason, Kelly, Rivers, etc. Best ever is Brady. Manning is right behind him!

    NOPE !!! Montana is !!

  38. ricko1112 says:
    April 20, 2019 at 9:32 am
    Manning wasn’t athletic. He had pocket awareness. Manning was also a “no brainer” #1 pick.
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    Not at all, there was plenty of debate about who the better pro QB prospect Manning or Leaf. Manning was far from a “No Brainer” before the draft.

  39. Montana is still the GOAT. If he played in today’s pass happy game, he would far outplay Brady
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    you want “if”? if montana wasn’t annually supported by an all star team with no free agency or salary cap, if montana had only been good enough to even keep his job on his own team, if he had to constantly lead a team back in than inferior opponent maybe sometimes he could have.
    With the GOAT there are no ifs, just GUTS. he just did it time after time, taking a beating from teams with superior talent by getting up off the mat to WIN like no one else ever has or will in our lifetime.

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