Packers days of never going abroad could be drawing short

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The Packers stand alone in many ways, but one of the things they’ve held onto longer than any team may not last much longer.

According to Peter King of NBC’s Football Morning in America, the Packers are likely (perhaps as soon as next season) to finally play a foreign game, as “the NFL is conscious of not giving a prized franchise special treatment.”

With Carolina and Houston making the trip to London this year, the Packers are the only team not to play a game on foreign soil.

Packers team president Mark Murphy has long said the team would never give up a home game to go overseas, and because Packers fans travel so well, their road opponents are hesitant to give up a good gate.

But there’s nothing inherent in Green Bay that suggests their team isn’t subject to the same kind of travel hardships and scheduling issues the other 31 teams have to deal with, so a trip to Mexico or England seems fair.

49 responses to “Packers days of never going abroad could be drawing short

  1. The Packers have ALWAYS been open to a road game in another country. I hope they do schedule the Packers for a road game in a foreign locale in 2020.

    Come on Bears, Lions, and Vikings, offer to give up your home game against the Pack and let’s do this!

    #TitleTown

    #13WorldChampionships

    #GoPackGo!🏈☝️

  2. Meanwhile, the Rams have given up a “home” game in all four of their London games. And they would’ve been the “home” team in Mexico City last year if the game hadn’t been moved back to LA due to field conditions.

  3. “Packers team president Mark Murphy has long said the team would never give up a home game to go overseas…”

    Since when does a team president dictate terms to the NFL?

    This almost demands a home game London appearance for the Packers next season.

  4. Mark Murphy is taking Aaron’s stance and thinks he runs things that he doesn’t. It’s not up to him if they have to give up a home game. It hits shows the entitlement thought starts at the top.

  5. Life isn’t fair and it should be obvious by now that the NFL certainly isn’t fair either. For a Packer’s game to move overseas as a home-game is economically unfeasible given the economic importance of the Packers (seriously, Green Bay without the Packers is just Fond du Lac). A road game getting sent overseas is doable, but a lot of crying will happen by whoever is losing that money.

  6. Every team likes to claim their fans are the best in the game, but the fact that opposing teams don’t want to give up a game where the Packers are visiting seems to be proof that the Packers have the best fans.

    We support our teams in Wisconsin, even though we have the smallest markets.

  7. “and because Packers fans travel so well, their road opponents are hesitant to give up a good gate.”

    Most opponents could care less about the Packer fans supposedly traveling well.

    Why?

    Because they fill their stadium’s capacity just fine without the Packers. In many cases – a home game against the Packers means a lower gate. Over half the NFL sells out a higher percentage of their stadium’s capacity then the Packers do at Lambeau Field (95.6% – 20th place in the NFL).

    As already mentioned, the Packers only sell 95.6% of Lambeau’s capacity for home games. On the road the opponents averaged 92.4% (29th place) of capacity for their game against the Packers.

    Facts are facts and a home game against the Packers usually means a smaller gate for the home team.

  8. The facts:

    Lambeau Field has been sold out for every game since 1959.

    If you actually watch NFL football regularly you know which fan base travels the best. It’s Packers Nation. The Steelers and Cowboys fan bases are the next best.

    Ask any other teams players which fan base causes them to have to use the silent count at home most? The answer is always “Green Bay”

    #PackerNation

    #GoPackGo!🧀

  9. The fact that the Packers have sold out every home game since the dawn of man, and away teams do not want to give up full stadiums with well-traveled Packer fans, the NFL has a dilemma not found with rank and file teams. The Packers aren’t rank and file. That’s the difference. Look how many times the Vikings have played overseas. It made no difference to their bottom line whatsoever. Nobody remembers or cares. It’s different for the Packers. Are the Packers “special?” Damn right they are.

  10. I didn’t sit on the season ticket waiting list for almost 30 years to have one of my home games just given away to London.

    There are plenty of NFL teams who’ve played abroad without giving up a home game, the League can give the Packers organization the same consideration.

    Especially when you consider their 60 years of straight sellouts.
    Let Minnesota or Detroit “host” it.

  11. The Packers have already started the long slide into mediocrity, or worse, and shouldn’t get ANY special treatment.

  12. The majesty of the Packers in London would be like the 2nd game in a home and home series with the Brits.

    The first in the series being when the Beatles invaded America.

  13. I told you. Like I’ve said all along, Packers will play abroad when they are good and ready.

    Obviously there are advantages to being the most successful franchise in NFL history. We call our own shots here.

  14. The Packers struggle to sell out home playoff games even needing corporate help a few years back to avoid a home playoff blackout. Not so special.

    It’s good to see the NFL tell Packer fans there’s nothing inherent in Green Bay that suggests their team isn’t subject to the same kind of travel hardships and scheduling issues the other 31 teams have to deal with. Their fans feel they are special because they like the Packers and should get special treatment because of it. SMH

  15. It’s a shame the Pack will finally travel to England when their team is a clown show. Should’ve went years ago when they were actually able to finish above 500.

  16. Packer fans have no qualms about the travel and scheduling hardships their team faces when playing abroad.
    This team should do it like everyone else.

    In fact, the Packers have a huge contingent of fans in the U.K., and I’ve listened to them lament the NFL’s decision to keep one of the NFL’s most successful franchises at home year after year.
    It would be a win/win for everyone.

    The only thing Packer fans insist on is for the League to leave their home games alone.
    And quite honestly, after 60 years of sellouts, through good times and bad, the Packers and their fans have earned that right.

  17. @cheeseisfattening

    That was far more then a few years ago and that was games played in Milwaukee at the dump that was Milwaukee County Stadium. That was horrible place to watch a football game. They haven’t played in Milwaukee since 1994 and the threatened blackouts which never actually happened were several years before that. Those games always sold out too one way or another.

  18. It’s only fair that the Pack gives up a home date like everyone else. Besides, as a fan, it’s kinda fun to either watch or attend those foreign games. You’d think the NFL would schedule the Pack game in Germany during Octoberfest, as half of Wisconsin would probably show.

  19. Cowboys playing in Mexico City is like a home game for them. It doesn’t count as an international game for them. Let’s see how the Londonites embrace a Cowboy-Packer game. Better yet, just cancel the international game fiasco.

  20. freefromwhatyouare says:

    The facts:

    Lambeau Field has been sold out for every game since 1959.
    ###

    The next sellout at Lambeau Field will be the very first one, despite the Packer’s fan bases claims.

    Since the Packers increased the capacity of Lambeau Field to 81,441, the average paid attendance has been around 78,000. Last year it dipped to 77,834 – the lowest it’s been since 2012 – before the expansion.

    These are the real, official NFL numbers – not some wild claims made by freefromcommonsense.

    In 2017, with Brett Hundley at QB for the majority of the season, attendance was better than with Rodgers playing every single game last year.

    Let that sink in.

  21. Tracfone stadium or whatever they call it in Minnesota should never have to worry about selling out seats. Can always put up some fold up chairs in the trophy case room.

  22. amurdora says:
    April 22, 2019 at 7:07 am
    Life isn’t fair and it should be obvious by now that the NFL certainly isn’t fair either. For a Packer’s game to move overseas as a home-game is economically unfeasible given the economic importance of the Packers (seriously, Green Bay without the Packers is just Fond du Lac). A road game getting sent overseas is doable, but a lot of crying will happen by whoever is losing that money.
    ———/
    The whole excuse about Green Bay’s economy is so lame. Look at cities like Detroit and basically every city in California are in tough financial states. However they don’t cry welfare when it comes time for international games.

  23. Liberalsruineverything says:
    April 22, 2019 at 7:01 pm
    The Packer fans are against international games due to airline seat limitations.
    ———-
    Good point, many European countries generalize the whole US as obese. Probably would just perpetuate the stereotype sending a bunch of sausage eating drunk gb fans over there.

  24. The Packers and Packer fans have enjoyed a sellout streak dating back to 1959. This is truly something to be proud of. It’s just another reason in a long list of reasons the Packers are special.

  25. gtodriver says:
    April 22, 2019 at 6:37 pm

    The next sellout at Lambeau Field will be the very first one, despite the Packer’s fan bases claims.
    ________________

    You seriously could not be more ignorant on this subject if you even tried.

  26. I just learned the new US Bank Stadium has not had a sell out game for the Vikings yet. Not one.

  27. ……I take that back, US Bank has had sellouts for the Vikings……everytime the Packers came to town.

  28. millertime953 says:

    Minnesota should never have to worry about selling out seats.
    ###

    You’re right.

    They don’t have to worry about it because they do sell it out – capacity is 66,655 and official attendance has been over that every year.

    Unlike Lambeau Field that averages nearly 3,500 unsold tickets for every home game – average official attendance 78,000 vs capacity of 81,441.

    Let me know when Lambeau Field has it’s first official complete sellout.

    I’m not holding my breath…

  29. cellarperformance lies:

    ……I take that back, US Bank has had sellouts for the Vikings……everytime the Packers came to town.
    ###

    Truth of the matter is that the Viking/Packer games are not the most highly attended games.

    They are sellouts, but on the lower end of the sellouts.

  30. Waffles lies:

    You seriously could not be more ignorant on this subject if you even tried.
    ###

    Check the official NFL attendance numbers for Green Bay.

    Then admit that you have been ignorant of the truth.

  31. gtodriver says:
    April 23, 2019 at 8:24 am
    millertime953 says:

    Minnesota should never have to worry about selling out seats.
    ###

    You’re right.

    They don’t have to worry about it because they do sell it out – capacity is 66,655 and official attendance has been over that every year.

    Unlike Lambeau Field that averages nearly 3,500 unsold tickets for every home game – average official attendance 78,000 vs capacity of 81,441.

    Let me know when Lambeau Field has it’s first official complete sellout.

    I’m not holding my breath…
    ____________

    You can post your ignorant comments here as much, and as often as you like, but it still doesn’t make you right.
    I argued this with you about a year ago, citing multiple sources to educate you better on this subject, but you were either:

    A. Too lazy or stupid to check these sources out for yourself.
    B. You honestly don’t care about the truth.
    C. You’d rather just keep ignorantly posting your erroneous narrative.
    I suspect it’s a little bit, all of the above.

    For starters, your numbers are wrong.
    I don’t care where you got them from, but they’re wrong.
    Lambeau’s full capacity has been listed as 5 or 6 different amounts from different sources, all of them ranging from 78,000-81,000.
    With best and honest guesses at being somewhere just under 79,000.
    Secondly, the attendance numbers are always slightly skewed because the Packers organization makes use of personal SRO passes that are usually reserved for VIPs, such as alumni, military veterans and disabled guests.

    For many of us, trying to get Packer tickets is a lifelong experience.
    Some of my friends and family have had to wait decades to receive their tickets, some of them have been willed to them after the death of an immediate family member.
    I personally was on the waiting list for over 29 years until they finally offered me my tickets.
    And that was only for the Gold Package (The old Milwaukee package which is just 3 games a season.) or they game me the option of staying on the waiting list indefinitely for the opportunity to purchase the Green Package. (7 games a season.)
    I chose the bird in hand.

    As of last month, the waiting list still stands at 139,000 people.
    But Hey, don’t just take my word for it.
    If your numbers are correct, simply take five minutes out of your day and call the Packer Ticket Office.
    With 3,500 unsold tickets to each game, I’m sure you won’t have any trouble finding a single seat for just one home game next season.
    Their number: (866) 752-1265 (M-F, 9 a.m.-5 p.m.)
    But, I bet you won’t even bother.

  32. Waffles

    Is the Packers website a reliable source?

    81,441.

    Standing room is how the Vikings exceed the seating capacity.

    The myth that Lambeau Field has been sold out for every game is just that, a myth.

  33. gtodriver says:
    April 23, 2019 at 10:38 am
    Waffles

    Is the Packers website a reliable source?

    81,441.

    Standing room is how the Vikings exceed the seating capacity.

    The myth that Lambeau Field has been sold out for every game is just that, a myth.
    __________

    Simply call.
    And put an end to your ignorant claims once and for all.

  34. Good God. The arrogance and smugness in the comments smells worse than driving through Wisconsin on a warm summer day.

    The fact is most season ticket holders don’t want the game moved overseas either. You can essentially make half if not more of your entire season package by selling your tickets to the brainwashed sheep for that game.

    If this were the great 25 year span when they failed to score a single touchdown in the playoffs and didn’t no anything til Favre showed up they’d be playing in London every 3-4 years just like everyone else. And don’t give me that garbage that ‘Green Bay’ will go bankrupt if one stupid home game is played in London, your ignorant delusional town will be just fine.

  35. The facts:

    Lambeau Field has been sold out for every game since 1959.
    —————-
    WRONG
    1983 the Packers failed to sellout a Lambeau Field playoff game against St. Louis and the game was blackedout in Green Bay

    Partially WRONG
    A group of corporate partners bought the remaining tickets for the Green Bay Packers’ January 5, 2014 playoff game, helping that community avoid a television blackout of the game

  36. Waffles

    So, your saying that the Packers own website is fraudulent.

    As an owner, you should do something about it.

  37. gtodriver says:
    April 23, 2019 at 11:35 am
    Waffles

    So, your saying that the Packers own website is fraudulent.

    As an owner, you should do something about it.
    ___________

    Hmm…….did someone finally make a simple phone call, only to find out just how ignorant their dumb argument has been over the last couple of years?
    I Think So!!!

  38. If teams are worried about lost revenues playing a home game abroad, why is the NFL still chasing that pipe dream? Green Bay sells every ticket for every home game and there is a decade long waiting list to be a season ticket holder. Teams that can’t sell out home games should be more than willing to sacrifice a home game to play in these stupid international games.

  39. Waffles

    Hmm…….did someone finally make a simple phone call, only to find out just how ignorant their dumb argument has been over the last couple of years?
    ###

    Why would I waste time calling the Packers when the Packers own website validates the seating capacity and the NFL documents the paid attendance for every single NFL game.

    Ignorance is refusing to accept properly documented facts and attempting to perpetuate a myth.

    Feel free to continue to bury your head in the sand, if that’s what you need to do to make yourself feel better.

  40. gtodriver says:
    April 23, 2019 at 1:41 pm
    Waffles

    Hmm…….did someone finally make a simple phone call, only to find out just how ignorant their dumb argument has been over the last couple of years?
    ###

    Why would I waste time calling the Packers when the Packers own website validates the seating capacity and the NFL documents the paid attendance for every single NFL game.

    Ignorance is refusing to accept properly documented facts and attempting to perpetuate a myth.

    Feel free to continue to bury your head in the sand, if that’s what you need to do to make yourself feel better.
    ___________

    Wow! That has to be one of the worst apologies I’ve ever read.
    But, I suppose, coming from a typically ignorant, know-nothing Barney fan, who obviously can’t admit when he’s wrong, you take what you can get.
    Toodles.

  41. Luxury box seating is included in total capacity numbers, but not included in “sold out” numbers. Look it up. That’s why the Packers have sold out every game since 1959, and the numbers don’t always jive between capacity and gate. Pretty simple, unless you’re simple.

  42. Frazier28/7 says:
    April 23, 2019 at 11:11 am
    Good God. The arrogance and smugness in the comments smells worse than driving through Wisconsin on a warm summer day.

    The fact is most season ticket holders don’t want the game moved overseas either. You can essentially make half if not more of your entire season package by selling your tickets to the brainwashed sheep for that game.

    If this were the great 25 year span when they failed to score a single touchdown in the playoffs and didn’t no anything til Favre showed up they’d be playing in London every 3-4 years just like everyone else. And don’t give me that garbage that ‘Green Bay’ will go bankrupt if one stupid home game is played in London, your ignorant delusional town will be just fine.
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Every game was still a sell-out during the Dark Years. The Dark Years helped make us fans what we are today. Patient and thankful.

    Thank you for reminding us of yet another example of what makes the Packers special. Loving it…..and with your help!

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