Judge orders eventual release of Kraft video

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Get ready.

Sooner or later, and maybe sooner than later, a surveillance video showing Patriots owner Robert Kraft engaged in sexual activity at a Florida day spa will be released to the public.

Although a judge on Tuesday temporarily blocked the release of the video, the video will be released when: (1) a jury is sworn in for a trial of the case against Kraft; (2) prosecutors drop the charges; (3) the case is resolved through a plea agreement; or (4) “any other time at which the court finds the fair trial rights of Defendant are not at risk, after notice to the parties and hearing thereon.”

Via the Boston Globe, the judge concluded only that the footage cannot be disclosed in away that would taint the jury pool. Once that risk is gone, the video enters the public domain.

This conclusion means that the judge rejected Kraft’s argument in support of permanently blocking the release of the video. Which means that the video will be released.

101 responses to “Judge orders eventual release of Kraft video

  1. So the video was obtained illegally and now it gets released to all of the public. So is this like a real life porn hub hidden camera thing. I actually just read today a guy was arrested for taking hidden videos of people and posting them online, guess its only illegal if you are not the police doing it.

  2. Kraft plead guilty and pay your nominal fine and serve your community work.

    You are a disgrace for trying to buy a not guilty verdict. Everyone knows you’re guilty and you’re making yourself look look even worse.

    If you had any character you’d admit your guilty, but men of character don’t visit massage parlors for sex.

    The Patriot Way!!! Cheat, lie and blame everyone else.

  3. Kraft will appeal this as far as he legally can, so don’t hold your breath on it being released (legally)any time soon.

  4. That’s because the judge is being politically motivated.
    I have yet to see the videos of Vick killing dogs…
    The difference is that Vick, as a player, was protected by both the union and the media whereas Kraft has ZERO protection and is a target of the media.
    I’d never vote for that judge ever again.

  5. Just plead guilty, and be a man about it. Then no one will care. Trying to deny it, and then being proved a liar just make it worse. You did it, everyone knows it, just take responsibility.

  6. Does this really serve the public interest? At this point, we all know Kraft went to a massage parlor and received sexual favors. How does releasing the video help? Do we really have a right to see a graphic video of the actual event? Ridiculous if you ask me. I am sure if the judge was in Kraft’s position, he would see things differently. At the end of the day, we have all done stupid things. It feels wrong to do this.

  7. If the state law requires its disclosure, the state law requires its disclosure. Those complaining in this thread can write their Florida legislators to change the relevant state law, assuming that they’re Florida citizens. Otherwise, it’s pointless to rant about the unfairness to poor old Bob Kraft. He’s “Florida man” now.

  8. Sometimes “hiding in plain sight” works… sometimes it doesn’t.

    Kraft figured no one would expect a multi-billionaire would go to a typical suburban shopping center in view of everyone for some fun in the back of a massage parlor. He obviously didn’t have the place vetted, and they may have been involved in sex trafficking, even though the women who served Kraft were allegedly not part of that. And it came back to bite him.

    If I had $6 million, let alone $6 billion, I’d just hire someone for that purpose – salary, benefits, retirement plan – and no one finds out.

  9. Kraft needs to plea this thing out, apologize and move on. Even if his lawyers get it dismissed no one on the planet is going to believe he isn’t guilty. Tuff pill to swallow but the sooner he does the sooner it goes away….

  10. Belichicks Dig Me says:
    April 23, 2019 at 5:01 pm
    As a Patriots fan I’ll just read off this tattoo on my calf:

    BUT WHERE’S THE EVIDENCE?
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    Unfortunately you’re about to find out

  11. As it should,

    Ridiculous Kraft wouldn’t just take ownership of his mistake and plead out rather than pay millions to his high priced lawyers to find a loophole out of this.

  12. The only thing more ridiculous than busting Kraft for getting a hooker is the people hating on him.

    He got himself a hooker, big friggin deal.

  13. meadowlandssports says:
    April 23, 2019 at 5:21 pm

    Sometimes “hiding in plain sight” works… sometimes it doesn’t.

    Kraft figured no one would expect a multi-billionaire would go to a typical suburban shopping center in view of everyone for some fun in the back of a massage parlor….”
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    I agree. However, he, and the other two billionaires, should have used an UBER instead of pulling up in their forty foot long limos with a chauffeur to open the doors for them. Limos pulling up to a two bit massage parlor regularly would certainly not draw attention, right? LOL

  14. fcoprado says:
    April 23, 2019 at 5:07 pm
    I’ll be embarrassed to work for an owner like him.
    ________________________________________

    Is this any worse then Jerry Jones chasing after Strippers in the Dallas strip bars?
    At least Kraft was a single man, not like Jerry.

  15. But I thought the president said we didn’t have to do anything that a judge ordered.

  16. I don’t know why everyone is assuming Kraft is embarrassing himself. If I was a billionaire, do you think I would give a rat’s behind as to what anyone else thinks of me? A couple hundred dollars to have someone else do the deed is a bargain when you have billions in your bank account. Think what you want, we all have our shortcomings and if the worst you could say about mine is that I went to a massage palor, I could sleepl at night knowing that.

  17. There are some things that you can never unsee. I don’t ever need to see this, and other than humiliation, isn’t understand why local authorities would want to release this

  18. “So the video was obtained illegally…”

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    Life hack: you spend far less time trying to explain away things that you do if you don’t do them in the first place.

  19. Legal blackmail? By following the laws of the state, which Kraft most definitely did not? By investigating crime with surveillance? You don’t want cops to conduct surveillance on criminals? That pretty much puts law enforcement out of business, but hey, it would have been awesome good news for the Boston Marathon bomber and Ray Rice, just your kind of guys no doubt!

  20. The video has already been leaked and making the rounds on the internet for a few days now. You just have to:
    (1) know where to go and
    (2) convince yourself you really want to see it

    Good luck

  21. fcoprado says:
    April 23, 2019 at 5:07 pm
    I’ll be embarrassed to work for an owner like him.

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    I assume that’s a typo, but it’s pretty funny!

  22. I assume this is one of those things where the judge declined to get to the privacy argument because all he needed to rule on was the issue of pre-trial release. Kraft’s lawyers are arguing (and it appears legitimately) that the video was illegally obtained and, therefore, it’s not legal to release it under any circumstances. I’m guessing they’ll be able to get a judge to address that argument at a later point.

  23. “please does this really mean anything to anyone??? Or just the Patriots haters???”

    Only Pats haters and self righteous prudes, some of whom will have been patrons of similar Asian massage parlors for the same reason Kraft went there.

    That said, whether the video is released or not, whether Kraft continues fighting the charges or not, nothing will change the fact he was busted and outed for this. Pats fan or Pats hater, there’s no denying it.

  24. Woah haters! Judge hasn’t said they’re giving y’all your secret Patriot porn, all they’ve said is it definitely can’t be released while it could damage his rights or a trial. As a Pats fan I’m fully OK with that and so should everybody else be, whether it was this case or any other.

  25. This act by the media of trying to destroy people for minor stuff is way off base. The average, normal person doesn’t care about some guy getting laid or some girl making a few bucks. Trying to blame human trafficking on Kraft is like trying to blame the abuse of workers in Africa on anyone who buys a daimond.

  26. Just plead guilty, and be a man about it. Then no one will care. Trying to deny it, and then being proved a liar just make it worse. You did it, everyone knows it, just take responsibility.

    ____________________________________________________________________

    Clearly they can’t convict him or they wouldn’t have tried to get him to take a deal. They stopped him illegally. It starts there. They were not allowed to record. This is about some weird Florida law that says you MUST release all evidence to the public, for some weird Florida reason. And if you are mad about some 78 year old guy buying a happy ending from a 58 year old woman, you are really really missing a bunch of truly outrageous stuff.

  27. I could be wrong of course, but I can’t help but think the Prosecutor wouldn’t be so intent on releasing this video if Kraft had just agreed to plead guilty and not brung in the expensive fire power to buy his way out of it. He’s already apologized so I have no idea why he’s continuing to try and pretend he can fight this to a favorable resolution when he’s already guilty in the eyes of any one with common sense. If he had just copped to it and apologized for a momentary lapse of judgement it would have likely blown over by now. It’s only a story because he’s trying to get off on a technicality and not accepting full responsibility.

  28. It seems bizarre to me that, regardless of whether someone is found guilty or innocent, any and all evidence from the case becomes public record.

    In the pre-smartphone, pre-internet days, this might have made sense. But now, with the slightest shred of anything public having an instant worldwide audience – and many levels of public judgment and resulting punishment that have grown out of that – it’s worrisome, to say the least.

    And no, “he shouldn’t have done it in the first place” isn’t a sufficient answer to the problem.

  29. EZWriter says:
    April 23, 2019 at 5:46 pm
    Legal blackmail? By following the laws of the state, which Kraft most definitely did not? By investigating crime with surveillance? You don’t want cops to conduct surveillance on criminals? That pretty much puts law enforcement out of business, but hey, it would have been awesome good news for the Boston Marathon bomber and Ray Rice, just your kind of guys no doubt!

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    Please note that you equated a massage parlor giving handjobs with the Boston marathon bomber. GET A GRIP. This is the kind of breathless, panicked false equivalency that gets the mob up in arms.

  30. So….the Sheriff’s Department claimed to be there investigating Human Trafficking, stayed their and video taped probably hundreds of people if not thousands, seriously invading their privacy, all under the banner of “Muh Investigation,” and then it turns out there was no Human Trafficking which should have been obvious in much less than 8 months, and then they use whatever else they can find to ring up charges and maybe get some fine money to pay for the whole fiasco. Do I have that right?

    Is Robert Mueller the DA in that County?

  31. Last I checked the cameras in the elevator and streets of Boston were placed there legally by the owners of the businesses. They did not have to lie about putting them there.

  32. I admit that I will watch it. Not because I will enjoy the contents one bit, but because it’s just what you do in a situation like this. Anyone who says otherwise is lying.

  33. Skolirish says:
    April 23, 2019 at 6:01 pm

    He gave me free tickets once, ran into him at stadium shop. He’s the man.

    _______________________________________

    I guess your encounter with him had a happy ending.

  34. Can’t wait….
    I’ma get out my Smoking Jacket, Best Maduro and my Fav 12yr Single Malt…tell wifey to snuggle up and watch Ol’ Krafty Do what He Do!!!

  35. As a Patriots fan I’ll just read off this tattoo on my calf:

    BUT WHERE’S THE EVIDENCE?
    ————————————————

    What kind of man gets a tattoo on his calf?

  36. The way that Florida Open Records law is written, ALL of the videos created in this case will be available to anyone. Even videos of people who have done nothing wrong.

  37. Ever get the feeling Patriots fans are turning into a bunch of enablers? I mean c’mon, I rip Jerry Jones every chance I get and have no problem with other team’s fans pile on too but if anyone ever says anything negative about the team or the Patriots’ organization, suddenly every Patriots fan starts acting like nothing their team ever does is wrong and there’s this big conspiracy to get them.

  38. If this were the owner of any other team, I know a fan base that would be all over it, and not making excuses.

  39. Seriously tho, do we want to even see it?? I already can kinda picture it and it hurts. He did it, and don’t know why he just didn’t take a deal. Who really cares if some ole dude wanted a crank?? His wife is gone, but he still should stay outta strip malls, and import some overnight Top Talent for himself. Easier that way,

  40. If Jim Irsay spends all his dough on drugs and rock ‘n roll, what’s Bobby Kraft spend his on?

  41. I’ve stated the opinion previously that he should have just paid the fine and moved on to avoid bringing the evidence, namely the video, into a public forum. But my rationale was mistaken.

    Pleading guilty and resolving the case would just concede any limits on the video’s release under public records law, because then there would be no compelling reason like integrity of the proceedings to deny its release.

    Kraft basically has to fight a $170 fine in order to try to block the video. He couldn’t even reach a plea deal that blocks the video because he can’t trade in the public’s right to a public record.

    He basically has to fight the charge even if he knows he’s guilty or would prefer just to pled guilty.

  42. SparkyGump says:
    April 23, 2019 at 6:35 pm
    Ever get the feeling Patriots fans are turning into a bunch of enablers? I mean c’mon, I rip Jerry Jones every chance I get and have no problem with other team’s fans pile on too but if anyone ever says anything negative about the team or the Patriots’ organization, suddenly every Patriots fan starts acting like nothing their team ever does is wrong and there’s this big conspiracy to get them.

    4 2 Rate This

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    Maybe we see the creepy society obsession like you and others have toward the team is more the thing than Pats fans caring about made up stories about their team or a 77 year old man paying for sex.

    No one should care about what Kraft paid for, whether it be in Belgium, Bangkok or Bangor, Maine.

    It is just that simple. You Millennnials and your pc obsessions and faux outrage are mortifying.

  43. D1442zzx says:
    April 23, 2019 at 5:43 pm
    fcoprado says:
    April 23, 2019 at 5:07 pm
    I’ll be embarrassed to work for an owner like him.
    ________________________________________

    Is this any worse then Jerry Jones chasing after Strippers in the Dallas strip bars?
    At least Kraft was a single man, not like Jerry.
    ——————–
    Yep, it’s worse! Jerry takes his online virtual beatings like a man, pays his fines and defend his players. Leave him out of this!

  44. tylawspick6 says:
    April 23, 2019 at 7:08 pm

    Maybe we see the creepy society obsession like you and others have toward the team is more the thing than Pats fans caring about made up stories about their team or a 77 year old man paying for sex.
    No one should care about what Kraft paid for, whether it be in Belgium, Bangkok or Bangor, Maine.
    It is just that simple. You Millennnials and your pc obsessions and faux outrage are mortifying.

    *****

    Many thanks for calling me a millennial. I’m closer to ol’ Karfty’s age than that.

    Also, thank you for proving my point. Chill out dude. Your heroes have flaws. Deal with it.

  45. One thing that a lot of people don’t realize here is the fact that disclosing that type of evidence is the norm in the state of Florida. I am sure in most other states as well. It has nothing to do with Kraft alone.

  46. I haven’t had a comment published in my last 25 attempts, but here goes nuthin’. . .

    Kraft is single, almost 100, and paid for a ‘specialized massage.” What am I missing here? Who is outraged, and why?
    Fire up your video recorders and fake outrage now, ’cause in 25 years. . . I’m goin’ in!

  47. jocoll45 says:
    One thing that a lot of people don’t realize here is the fact that disclosing that type of evidence is the norm in the state of Florida. I am sure in most other states as well. It has nothing to do with Kraft alone.
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    This type of video evidence SHOULD NOT be the norm in any state. People have a reasonable expectation of privacy in areas where they get undressed.

    The way the Florida Open records law was written ALL evidence will be released, that includes videos of persons who did nothing wrong.

  48. I’ll be embarrassed to work for an owner like him.
    ________________________________________

    Is this any worse then Jerry Jones chasing after Strippers in the Dallas strip bars?
    At least Kraft was a single man, not like Jerry.
    ——————–
    Yep, it’s worse! Jerry takes his online virtual beatings like a man, pays his fines and defend his players. Leave him out of this!
    _______________________________________________

    Jerry takes his beatings because he just can’t keep his big mouth shut, just like you.

  49. “but if anyone ever says anything negative about the team or the Patriots’ organization, suddenly every Patriots fan starts acting like nothing their team ever does is wrong and there’s this big conspiracy to get them” Absolute truth.

  50. It will show up on an infomercial as the latest spring break video” Owners Gone Wild”! (Just 19.99 plus shipping). Should have just pled out when offered, this would be a non issue now.

  51. kenmasters34 says:
    April 23, 2019 at 7:44 pm
    jocoll45 says:
    One thing that a lot of people don’t realize here is the fact that disclosing that type of evidence is the norm in the state of Florida. I am sure in most other states as well. It has nothing to do with Kraft alone.
    —–
    This type of video evidence SHOULD NOT be the norm in any state. People have a reasonable expectation of privacy in areas where they get undressed.
    The way the Florida Open records law was written ALL evidence will be released, that includes videos of persons who did nothing wrong.

    People have a reasonable expectation of privacy in area’s where they get undressed? In your own bedroom with your wife or girl friend YES! You would be right! While committing a crime? Whether you see it as a crime or not? It was/is! Then NO! As for evidence being released for ‘people who have done nothing wrong?’ Well, then they have nothing to be concerned about, do they?

  52. This is and will be a temporary embarassment but it will not define the man nor will it over shadow all his philanthropy ! He has done good for multitudes and this valley will lose significance soon. Kraft is a good man and just like all of us , messed up! Kudos to the Pats fans supporting their beloved owner.

  53. I don’t get it, the Patriots have always been a sterling example of organizational leadership.

    Aside from video taping other teams practices, drafting and signing a murderer, deflating footballs for advantage, WR’s getting busted for PEDs and an owner that pay’s strangers for a handy…. they are a stellar example of what a world class organization should be.

  54. What about the people videotaped not arrested that got a legit massage? They are suing.

    The 31 John and Jane Does want all the video recordings blocked from public release and destroyed — and are asking for unspecified monetary and punitive damages. None of them were charged with a crime.

  55. I suspect option two. When the prosecutor drops all charges. He got what he wanted. His name in the news.

  56. Moron! Take responsibility and take the $50 fine and community service! Only truly entitled 1%ers would fight this and expose themselves to more humiliation!

    Now that he’s allowed his arrogance and entitlement to go down this path; I hope he get’s the full treatment!

    Jerk!

  57. This is a pretrial ruling that can be altered by the judge or on appeal, so there is no certainty whatsoever that the tape will actually be released. All the judge has really decided is that the tape won’t be released at this time, despite the media asking for it. Whether it will be released at a later date is something that may well be decided by an appellate court, and that may not take place until 2020.

  58. Ryan Dubose says:
    April 23, 2019 at 5:07 pm
    So the video was obtained illegally and now it gets released to all of the public. So is this like a real life porn hub hidden camera thing. I actually just read today a guy was arrested for taking hidden videos of people and posting them online, guess its only illegal if you are not the police doing it.
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    The video was NOT illegally obtained, the investigators got a warrant for surveillance they didn’t just put cameras in the parlor.

    And the release of the video is not the prosecutor deciding to embarrass Kraft, it’s the result of a Freedom off Information Act request from a reporter or citizen. That obligates the prosecutor to release the video unless there is a valid reason for its suppression. The judge didn’t find any valid reason for suppression so the video will come out.

  59. Previous comment was incorrect, Freedom of Information Act would apply federally but most states have similar laws which is why this video is coming out.

  60. Is releasing the tape in the Public Interest or the Purulent Interest? I’m guessing the latter.

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