Dave Gettleman: The worst place you can be is QB hell

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The Giants hold picks six and 17. The Giants may or may not draft a quarterback with one of them.

General Manager Dave Gettleman talked out of both sides of his mouth this afternoon when Kimberly Jones of NFL Network interviewed him.

First, Gettleman said, “We want to come out of [the first round] with two legitimate starters [who] can step in and help us win now.”

Jones followed up, asking about drafting a quarterback who would sit behind Eli Manning.

“No, he wouldn’t [start right away], but it’s the position,” Gettleman said. “The worse place you can be is quarterback hell.”

In other words, the Giants may or may not come out of tonight with two immediate starters.

The Giants passed on taking a quarterback with the second overall pick last year, and Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, Josh Rosen and Lamar Jackson followed to other teams in the first round after the Browns made Baker Mayfield the No. 1 overall choice.

Will the Giants pass on taking a quarterback again?

30 responses to “Dave Gettleman: The worst place you can be is QB hell

  1. Kyler Murray will be in QB hell. Most likely being drafted by a team who will have spent the last two #1’s on a QB with no offensive weapons to help. I know he’s talking about something different but Giants will be ok.

  2. Most arrogant GM I have heard talk in quite a while with no vision for his football team. It is baffling too considering he did quite a good job in Carolina as their GM. They made a huge mistake passing up on Sam Darnold last year who played pretty well for a rookie with a terrible supporting cast. They got rid of their best players like Damon Harrison, JPP, OBJ and Landon Collins which usually signifies you are rebuilding, yet they selected an RB #2 overall to pair up with a below average, highly paid QB and they went along and signed over the hill players like Antoine Bethea and gave a 30 year old Golden tate a 4 year contract while keeping Alec Ogletree who is a shell of himself. If they don’t get a QB this year, it means waiting yet another year and hoping to be bad enough to pick a QB next year, where Tua is the only guy who looks like a legit franchise QB. I thought the point of drafting Barkley was to win now, instead he’ll pile up the mileage for another year where they seem to be yet again the worst team in that division

  3. There are plenty of good reasons for criticizing the Giants and they’ve made lots of lousy picks in recent years, but I don’t have any problem with picking Saquon over any of those guys. The only QB they could have credibly picked at #2 is Darnold and it’s not like he set the world on fire last year. The jury is definitely out on him while Saquon got 2K+ yards from scrimmage and was the offensive ROY with a crappy OL and a lousy defense that couldn’t hold a lead. I’d still take him over Darnold or any of those other guys who went later.

  4. Draft a QB, it’s not like the Giants are a player or two away from the playoffs.

  5. ” they selected an RB #2 overall to pair up with a below average, highly paid QB”

    Manning was 9th in passing last year with 21 TDs and 11 INTs, so that’s hardly below average. I think the Giants Oline last year had a lot of issues and the roster as a whole was more the problem than Manning was.

  6. Sitting at my desk is most likely worse than being in NFL QB hell.

    And you could do worse than sitting at my desk. Relative shades of green.

  7. lacarpetron says:
    April 25, 2019 at 4:02 pm
    There are plenty of good reasons for criticizing the Giants and they’ve made lots of lousy picks in recent years, but I don’t have any problem with picking Saquon over any of those guys. The only QB they could have credibly picked at #2 is Darnold and it’s not like he set the world on fire last year. The jury is definitely out on him while Saquon got 2K+ yards from scrimmage and was the offensive ROY with a crappy OL and a lousy defense that couldn’t hold a lead. I’d still take him over Darnold or any of those other guys who went later.
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    Saquon Barkley piled up his receiving stats in garbage time, led the league in negative yardage plays and the Giants could not even deploy him properly use him to his best skillsets because they were usually down in most games and had to play catch-up, which means throwing the ball through the air. This isn’t 1995 anymore, the passing game sets up the run game and QB is the most valuable position in pro football. Sam Darnold didn’t set the world on fire because QB is still the hardest position to play in the NFL, but he was top 5 in passer rating after returning from injury. When you’re a rebuilding team, those are the things that should matter most, the progress of your young QB. The Giants don’t even have that to look forward too at this point, so its all a moot point. I’d rather go 4-12 with a 21 year old QB who looked legitimate toward the end of the season than compile a 5-11 record with a 37 QB and rookie RB who is piling on mileage, seemingly going nowhere as a franchise.

  8. QB Hell is not having a terrible QB, it’s having one just good enough to make you wonder if you need a different one. The Bengals have been in QB hell for awhile now. The next guy may or may not be as good as Andy Dalton, Dalton may or may not be good enough to win. Average QBs are qb hell.

  9. lacarpetron says:
    April 25, 2019 at 4:02 pm
    There are plenty of good reasons for criticizing the Giants and they’ve made lots of lousy picks in recent years, but I don’t have any problem with picking Saquon over any of those guys.

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    Being a lousy team again this past season has certainly helped take the scrutiny off that pick. I don’t think most people thought they’d be picking again this high this soon.

    But only getting the right alpha QB is going to make that Barkley pick work out over time.

  10. jm91rs says:
    April 25, 2019 at 4:28 pm
    QB Hell is not having a terrible QB, it’s having one just good enough to make you wonder if you need a different one. The Bengals have been in QB hell for awhile now. The next guy may or may not be as good as Andy Dalton, Dalton may or may not be good enough to win. Average QBs are qb hell.

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  11. I think Gettleman is one of the better GMs in the league. I don’t know how many times people are going to ask him about his plans for QB. He ain’t telling you. Just wait a couple more hours and we’ll all know. Sometimes a GM’s hands are tied when it comes to QB’s, and especially if it’s a popular 2 time super bowl winner. Coaches and GMs all want to win in the worst way, but winning isn’t necessarily at the top of the priority list for every owner. I mean they hope to win, but sometimes they look at the business side of things a little differently. It would drive a guy like Gettleman nuts, but he can only control what he can control.

  12. jm91rs says:
    April 25, 2019 at 4:28 pm
    The Bengals have been in QB hell for awhile now. The next guy may or may not be as good as Andy Dalton, Dalton may or may not be good enough to win. Average QBs are qb hell.

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    If making the playoffs the first 4 years your QB is on the team, with an otherwise generally humdrum roster, is “average”, I know a lot of below-average teams that would take it.

    After Dalton is gone, Bengals fans will remember what actual QB hell felt like.

  13. I would assume Gettleman will draft nothing but defense and O line. If he does that, and the Giants come away with quality defensive starters, they might have a chance.

    I would trade down at 6, if I were them. They will get more picks and fill more holes.

  14. What’s Kyle Lauletta? Chopped liver? So what if he doesn’t know how how to drive!

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