Josh Rosen remains in the dark

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The Cardinals surely know by now what they’ll be doing with the first pick in the draft. Few others do, including the top-10 draft pick from a year ago who currently serves as the team’s starting quarterback.

Per a league source, the Cardinals have given Josh Rosen no indication as to their plans, one way or the other.

If quarterback Kyler Murray will be the pick, it won’t matter — if the next move will be to trade Rosen. But if the Cardinals pull a surprise and don’t take Murray, the Cardinals will have some work to do to mend fences with a quarterback who was left to wonder about his status for months.

Here’s an example, that may or may not make sense: Did your significant other ever make you go through a period of time wondering whether he/she was going to move on? Even if it all worked out in the end, nothing changed the fact that, for a period of time, you were left to worry. And even after the crisis ended favorably, you were left to wonder when it may happen again.

Rosen will surely feel the same way. He’s the guy, unless he isn’t. And now he is, until he isn’t. Or until he may not be.

It’s not a concern for the Cardinals if they take Murray. It’s definitely a concern if they don’t. Which tends to make it more likely that they will.

57 responses to “Josh Rosen remains in the dark

  1. Why would they give him information about the draft before the draft…he is an employee and will have to wait to find out his fate…Cardinals are doing what they have to do, Rosen will be fine no matter what happens, he’s got talen, if he doesn’t stay in Arizona hopefully he goes to a team with some stability at coach, front office and roster…

  2. You gotta feel for the guy! He is SO CLOSE to getting the hell out of Arizona which any sane person would want. Definitely pulling for him and laughing for years to come at what a bust Murray is going to be.

  3. You know, the Bidwell family signs Rosen’s checks, too. Maybe, just maybe, they’ve told him to shut up and play stupid. To be fair, the Cardinals have NEVER said “We are drafting Murray, we’re just working out the details.” Part of me wants it to be anybody BUT Murray, because Kiper and his 99 percent guarantee, and Dan Patrick has been so smug that it’s DEFINITELY Murray on his morning show.

  4. This pick is for the heart, soul, and the direction of the Cards. It will certainly dictate the direction of the offense, and ultimately the success of Coach Kingsbury reign.

  5. Honestly, if Rosen is so fragile that this is impacting him negatively somehow, then he really isn’t NFL starting QB material anyways…..

  6. Rosen is a loud mouth blowhard, remember when he said this? > “There were nine mistakes ahead of me” Ya, right buddy! He has career backup QB written all over him. Kingsbury will take advantage of Murray’s talents until he gets hurt, it’ll be fun for a while!

  7. I’ve been a Cardinals fan since 1970 (slow learner) so nothing surprises me. I believe Rosen will be a solid QB in this league but it’s looking more likely that he’ll do that in a different uniform. There is no way, imo, the Cardinals bring in Kingsbury and that offense and then pass on Murray. It simply defies reason. Which, as I point out above, wouldn’t shock me.

  8. …can’t wait for Bill to bring him to the light…

    He’s just waiting to pounce. I can feel it.

  9. I would think if the Cardinals are going to take Murrey then they would keep it as close to the cuff as possible. Certainly their trade leverage is great with the option of not taking Murrey and rolling with Rosen, so it would make sense that they are going to keep that leverage to the bitter end to try and squeeze as much out of a trade partner as possible (I am looking at you Washington or you New York Giants). So it is likely that they will pull the trigger on a trade for Rosen just prior to walking their draft card up to the stage with Murrey written on it.

    But even if they take Murrey and don’t get the quality of an offer that they are seeking for Rosen, they may very well try to pull off what the Eagles did a few years ago. Roll into the offseason with a young starter and a recent rookie top pick, wait for someone to go down with a season ending QB injury who believes they can win with a decent QB and is willing to give up a better draft package.

  10. There was a time Jimmy Johnson took Steve Walsh, a qb who won a National Championship, with a 1st round pick in the Supplemental Draft, when he had TROY AIKMAN on the Team. Troy Aikman wasn’t quite “Troy Aikman”, yet. Your job as a GM/Coach is to surround yourself with as much talent as possible. No one knows what Josh Rosen is going to be…or Kyler Murray, for that matter. The Cards are a bad team. They can use upgrades almost everywhere. Create competition. The best players will win out. The others will be depth or move on. Rosen has done NOTHING to justify worrying if you are hurting his feelings or not. He either responds to the challenge and wins the gig…or you move him. BTW…this is also what happens in each of our jobs every single day. Your boss likes what you do, right up until he/she think they can upgrade your position.

  11. The best decisions are made when you can extract as much information and pull the trigger when other teams are vulnerable. The Cardinals will draft Murray (Who is vastly superior to Rosen) and in the midst of the chaos of the draft, they will ship him to a team that wanted Haskins. Rosen is a decent QB, a lot like Eli Manning. He is immobile and is horrendous under pressure. Murray has the quicker release, is more accurate and has a better feel for the game, for evading pressure and making off script plays. Sticking with Rosen just because you drafted him last year makes no sense and is a poor argument. Rosen will be better suited for Washington behind a pretty good offensive line. A 2nd round pick this year and a conditional 3rd pick next year which can become a 2nd rounder would be a fair trade for both teams.

  12. Weird situation for him. Nobody wants to be kicked to the curb but he also must realize getting out of there would likely be a good thing for him. He’s a pro-style QB and if he stays in Arizona he’s looking at learning a college-style offense he’s never played before, that probably doesn’t suit his skill set, and that arguably will not even work at the NFL level. And learning it from a newbie NFL coach who had a losing record in college.

  13. shieldsisland37 says: “Is there anyone who thinks the Cardinals have managed this situation correctly?”
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    No one knows what they’ll do with the first pick, so right now that has MAXIMUM trade value for the team. So yes, it means the Cardinals have managed this situation correctly.

  14. In the real world management never tells an employee what’s going to happen until the decision is handed down. Why would the NFL be any different? Go to work until the day you find out your badge doesn’t work and HR needs to see you in the conference room.

  15. Drafting a top 15 QB in the draft one year then drafting a QB with the # 1 pick the following year is an awesome way to build your roster lmao!!!!!! What a horrific franchise! Murray will be a bust! Go Rams!!!

  16. I don’t know that anyone’s boss tells them in advance if they’re going to be fired. The Cardinals are doing what any intelligent organization would do. They have the #1 pick. They want to make sure they don’t continue to have the number one pick, so they’re going to do their best to take advantage of their current situation. Perhaps they believe it gives them an advantage to keep their plans quite. Everyone that knows what the Cards are going to do has been able to keep their mouths shut. That list could include Josh Rosen. If he’s going to be their QB going forward, and he’s convinced that keeping quiet is going to give his team an advantage, he’s keeping quiet. If they’re dealing him to New England and if he blabs the deal will fall through, he’s keeping his mouth shut. Also, another team could be on the phone right now offering 4 number one picks to the Cards. That could change things too. We’ll know when we know.

  17. He does not have to wait long to see the light at the end of the tunnel. By this evening he will know whether it is an oncoming train or it is a bright future.

  18. I’ll tell you what, people were all over Josh last year about having a Bad personality, and not being a good teammate.

    The way he has handled this says otherwise. It seems like he has a good head on his shoulders.

    I am kind of hoping my team ends up with him.

  19. They’re taking Murray. Everything else has been manufactured drama and reality TV-style “secrecy”.

  20. He’s not a significant other. He’s a worker being paid millions and started 13 games, hardly an established starter.

    Also last I checked, in those 13 starts, he only threw for over 200 yards four times, and his max was 252. Overall he averaged 172 yards per game.

    He also was the QB that led the team to the #1 pick.

    He simply might not be the guy, and the Cardinals are here now… not 2020 or 2021. If they feel Murray is the guy, Rosen shouldn’t be the reason not to draft Murray.

    There is also zero reasons to trade him unless a good offer happens. Together their cap hit would be minuscule compared to Russell Wilson.

    The Eagles wouldn’t have won a championship without having 2 capable starting QB’s in Wentz and Foles.

    If you have both, you have a better shot of actually having a QB. If you don’t have one, you aren’t going anywhere. If you have two, you have a good trade asset for future drafts.

  21. mogogo1 says:
    April 25, 2019 at 10:53 am
    Weird situation for him. Nobody wants to be kicked to the curb but he also must realize getting out of there would likely be a good thing for him. He’s a pro-style QB and if he stays in Arizona he’s looking at learning a college-style offense he’s never played before, that probably doesn’t suit his skill set, and that arguably will not even work at the NFL level. And learning it from a newbie NFL coach who had a losing record in college.

    Uh, Rosen played in this exact system his Freshman year at UCLA when Noel Mazzone was his OC.

  22. The Cardinals have done an excellent job of reducing Josh Rosens trade value.
    Either they keep him, or they get a lot less for him.

    As for Rosen, he gets paid regardless, and if he goes elsewhere, he gets a chance to become the starter. Regardless of what team you are on, if you are an average QB, you get paid.

  23. If my employer is doing an acquisition, they don’t inform me. Why should Josh Rosen the employee be notified of Cardinals drafts intentions.

  24. Right about the average working person’s job, ” oh by the way , we let you go, we’re moving in a new direction.” But in reality, getting out of the desert will be good for Rosen. He . does deserve or require one more legitimate opportunity to see if he can be a leading QB. Hopefully, this experience humbles him a little and he takes off . The Cards will be bottom feeders for awhile even with the new QB!

  25. Keim and Kingsbury are dream opponents at the poker table. Their tells are so obvious that even a beginner poker player could pick up. Their eyebrows would rise up upon seeing the face up cards dealt. Then they would pretend badly that they’re not interested.

  26. Rosen was bad last year. We’re talking worst in the NFL bad. Cardinals have the chance to add competition to their quarterback position and they absolutely should. Don’t give me that they had a bad offensive line either. Other quarterbacks had bad lines but only Rosen finished last in the league or worse in virtually every quarterback statistic. Cards can keep him and have a competition for the starting job. If he’s too fragile to compete then ship him out.

  27. MARK MY WORDS: Whatever team trades for Josh Rosen WILL NOT be good for a long time

    I will “I TOLD YA” later.

  28. kamthechancellor says:
    April 25, 2019 at 11:39 am
    Rosen was bad last year.
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    Terry Bradshaw was 1-13 his rookie year. Troy Aikman was 0-11. Peyton Manning was 3-13. That’s a combined 4-37. They now have 9 super bowl trophies and HOF busts. Good thing those teams didn’t ship them off because they struggled their rookie years.

  29. anybody suggesting that they drafted rosen last year to backup murray is a fool. only an truly idiotic organization would be so foolish. SURE. lets use 2 consecutive top ten first round picks on quarterbacks. watch out, here we come!

  30. Due to sportsbooks taking action legally on the draft, teams are no longer allowed to leak the picks.

    Major antitrust violation if they do.

    Rosen is just a pawn in the game. Legally they can not tell him.

  31. For all the supporters who think Josh Rosen is great:

    59 td – 26 int – 60% completions (in the weak pac-12)

    59 td – 26 int with warm, sunny Los Angeles weather.

  32. Many lefty sports talk show people in Buffalo wanted the Bills to take Rosen over Josh Allen because he would be more “interesting” (anti-Trump). Thankfully that didn’t happen and the Cardinals are stuck with an interesting bust.

  33. Keep them both.
    Rosen may still correct his poor pass coverage reads as well as his slow and poor decision making as to which receiver to throw to.
    If Rosen can do this, he can become a far better backup than Hundley who proved to all his many weaknesses when starting for the injured Aaron Rodgers.

  34. Lol that someone compared Rosen to Bradshaw and Manning! Ok buddy, you can have that guy on your team. I’m sure he’ll be in the HOF right next to those guys…hilarious.

  35. If the Cards draft Murray, it will let me know that have finished circling the drain and gone down it. If you give a coach and a qb only one year, you either suck at picking both, or you don’t understand the process of getting better and what it takes. This reeks of Clevelandesque modus operandi. The only thing keeping fans in the seats is Fitz. Sad.

  36. emac40 says:
    April 25, 2019 at 10:50 am

    There was a time Jimmy Johnson took Steve Walsh, a qb who won a National Championship, with a 1st round pick in the Supplemental Draft, when he had TROY AIKMAN on the Team. Troy Aikman wasn’t quite “Troy Aikman”, yet. Your job as a GM/Coach is to surround yourself with as much talent as possible. No one knows what Josh Rosen is going to be…or Kyler Murray, for that matter. The Cards are a bad team. They can use upgrades almost everywhere. Create competition. The best players will win out. The others will be depth or move on. Rosen has done NOTHING to justify worrying if you are hurting his feelings or not. He either responds to the challenge and wins the gig…or you move him. BTW…this is also what happens in each of our jobs every single day. Your boss likes what you do, right up until he/she think they can upgrade your position.
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    It divided the locker room having 2 rookie QBs 1st round draft picks. The team didn’t do anything until the Cowboys decided to dump one & the other became a Hall of Famer, Aikman. There is an expression in football, when you have 2 QB starters you really have none. Only one can play at a time and the other is pretty much a waste of a roster spot.

  37. For a player (QBs) to have so much control and be asked to have such control why in the world are almost all of them so dang sensitive? It’s like the only position that everyone walks on eggshells around! Each and every year there is a draft of many different positions yet the only one that crys are quarterbacks. Geez Louise these dudes need a hug and a nap. Buckle up buttercup and cash those big checks stop whining and prove that the job is yours ….OR DON’T

  38. kamthechancellor says:
    April 25, 2019 at 1:42 pm
    Lol that someone compared Rosen to Bradshaw and Manning!
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    I’m sure somebody once said “lol that somebody compared Peyton to Bernie Kosar”. It’s a discussion of sample size, not talent. The point is not Rosen will ever be as good as those guys, or even a starting quarterback, just that one season is not enough to judge. The Steelers, Cowboys, and Colts had just as much reason to give up on their quarterbacks as the Cardinals do to give up on Rosen.

  39. The Jets will trade for him to backup Darnold. Zona then has the #1 and #3 pick for Murray and Q Williams. Playoff bound!

  40. kamthechancellor says:
    April 25, 2019 at 11:39 am
    Rosen was bad last year. We’re talking worst in the NFL bad. Cardinals have the chance to add competition to their quarterback position and they absolutely should. Don’t give me that they had a bad offensive line either. Other quarterbacks had bad lines but only Rosen finished last in the league or worse in virtually every quarterback statistic. Cards can keep him and have a competition for the starting job. If he’s too fragile to compete then ship him out.

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    Dude, most qb’s come from spread offenses and have to learn more complex nfl offenses and how to work under center as opposed to from the shotgun. That by itself is a transition most qb don’t make ever let alone in their first year. Complicate that by not having even a modicum of protection and Rosen never had a chance. It’s not a matter of being tough. Is Andrew Luck not tough? Protection matters most when you’re a rookie. Drafting a qb in the first round and not giving him protection is like buying a Ferrari without wheels. It still looks pretty up on blocks, but it ain’t going anywhere.

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