Dolphins, Cardinals closing in on a deal for Josh Rosen

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The Cardinals have two quarterbacks. And since, apparently, when a team has two quarterbacks it has none, the Cardinals are intent on getting rid of one.

Per multiple sources, the Cardinals and Dolphins are closing in on a deal that would send Josh Rosen, the 10th pick in the 2018 draft, from Arizona to Miami. The Cardinals would get the 48th pick in the 2019 draft.

While the Cardinals want more — and the Dolphins want to give up less — current indications are that the deal may already be done, tentatively. As one source put it, there’s a chance an agreement unofficially has been reached, and that it would be finalized once Miami’s pick is on the clock.

That’s the smart play for Arizona, which predictably will deny that a deal is tentatively done or close to being done. If teams drafting at No. 49 and below know that Arizona has pick No. 48, they can attempt to predict which player Arizona is targeting, and they can explore jumping the line.

All that said, none of these deals are done until they’re done. And until the final trade terms officially are communicated to the league by both teams, the deal is not done.

83 responses to “Dolphins, Cardinals closing in on a deal for Josh Rosen

  1. No way you get more than pick #48 at this point. Take it and run. Arizona has Hundley as a back up. Which is a decent fit, he is mobile. GB gave up on him, he did have a rocky 2017 filling in for Rodgers, in his first action.

  2. Makes sense for the Dolphins. Its a low risk move for a rebuilding team. If he shows nothing of promise, they can still get a guy like Tua next year (like the browns with Kizer and Mayfield). Rosen will either be better in year 2 or he won’t, insinuating he’s a bust. I still think Rosen is a lot more polished than Drew Lock or Daniel Jones and it’s a gamble worth taking. For the Cardinals, it gives them an extra 2nd round pick in a draft where there is a ton of corner, WR and OL talent available, which coincidentally are their 3 biggest needs. Taking Risner and a Deebo Samuel, Hakeem Butler or JJ Arcegia Whiteside would make a ton of sense

  3. It’d be something if Rosen was still in the NFL after both Kingsbury and Murray were gone. I’d venture it’s a pretty safe bet he’ll outlast Kingsbury.

  4. If we give up a second round pick for this guy i’ll be pissed, the cards have zero leverage. A 3rd at best!

  5. Why doesn’t Miami wait the Cards out? They are bidding against themselves at this point. Who is in the market for Rosen at this point?

  6. Good move by Dolphins. Cardinals have messed this up from the beginning. They DESERVE far less. Would love to see Rosen turn into an All Pro and really make Keim look like an idiot

  7. I have been a cardinals fan my whole life, but after the way they have treated Josh Rosen. I’m having a hard time justifying it. What an terrible organization

  8. tylawspick6 says:
    April 26, 2019 at 3:08 pm
    Dolphins set to be fleeced! Ex Pats players and coaches now coaching think they have the inside scop on BB.
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    Pats fan here… I’d do that deal… though at 56 since that’s the Pat’s pick.

  9. Hundley was a Seahawk last year, and Seattle gave up on him. Green Bay was the year before. Arizona will be more fun to watch with Murray back there, hopefully Miami can actually compete again in the AFC Least.

  10. Gee, smart move by Miami, its almost as if Patriots’ guys have moved into the Phins’ office…

  11. It’s a good move for Miami. Once the deal is made all the experts will come out and say how awful the deal is for the Dolphins

  12. tylawspick6 says:
    April 26, 2019 at 3:08 pm
    Dolphins set to be fleeced! Ex Pats players and coaches now coaching think they have the inside scop on BB.

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    Yet if the Pats signed Rosen you would be singing his praises

  13. The Cards are dumb!!! Rosen is a really good QB, they needed OL not a QB. Murry is not that good.

  14. I dont see the point of trading for Rosen. Hes not going to win a Super Bowl for you. Keep 48 and add a piece

  15. Arz getting a STEAL if they get a 2nd for a guy that has NO trade value to anyteam that knows ARZ’s motivation to move him out of the locker room. Threaten them with inaction and being stuck with him or releasing him, says smart teams.

  16. Worth the risk for Miami I think, he was a guy who most people had as a 1st rounder(maybe not quite as early as Arizona took him, but close). It was a bad season, but the entire offense is a dumpster fire outside of Johnson and Zombie Fitzgerald who is still somehow the best receiver they have.

    I’m not saying he’s good, but it’s definitely too early to say he’s bad.

  17. I personally am not against this trade, but I wouldn’t offer any more than a third due to the fact that the market for Rosen is drying up. If they do surrender #48, then get AZ’s 4th back to offset the cost. I’d say their 3rd, but I think they gave that and their 5th up to move up to 10 last year for Rosen.

  18. GREAT Move… where else can you get a low 1st rounder with now NFL experience for a late 2nd rounder? Absolutely no risk. At worst he can be a young Backup QB and then released after his Rookie deal expires. Miami finally doing things right. Rosen is much better Jones, Lock and Grier and possibly Haskins.

  19. Finally Keim has bungled his way into finding a sucker. Buyer beware: the worst franchise in football didn’t want him. However, he was probably destined for the 2nd round last year before Arizona panicked and picked him, so a 2nd rounder is probably what he’s worth. Plus Miami doesn’t need to give him a signing bonus.

  20. 2nd rounder is too high. I rate Brett Rypien higher than Josh Rosen, and he is expected to go in the 3rd-5th round.

  21. Wilkins falls into their laps at #13 AND Miami gets a QB picked #10 overall from last year’s draft for a mid 2nd!?

    Phins Up!!!

  22. Keim should of moved him before the draft but a 2nd seems fair at this point. Arizona could use the pick and can pick up quality players to surround Murray with at both 33 & 48. Hopefully Arizona can trade out of 33 sliding back a few spots while adding an extra 3rd & 5th to really fill the offense out. I know a report leaked AZ could draft CB B. Murphy but AZ isn’t taking him, they don’t need a corner as badly as they need to add receiver and OL help. If they stay at 33 i’d guess they take WR AJ Brown out of Ole Miss to pair w/ Christian Kirk and Larry FItz, then maybe an IOL men at 48 & Andy Isabella @ 65 if he’s there.

  23. Finally Arizona got some sense. They should have tried to do a trade a week ago. Instead, they waited until the 2 QB neediest teams drafted QB’s. I’m guessing if Miami trades for him, that means Dan Marino has given his approval, which is a pretty good sign.

  24. A 2nd round pick for a guy with a year of pro experience and Arizona has already paid most of contract? I’ll take that all day.

  25. Get ready for Rosen to struggle the Dolphins will be 1-4. Then maybe he’s benched and/or has a slight injury…

    Enter Fitz, who will look good, and take them on a 3 win streak. Then “Fitzmagic” will hit Miami and we’ll all get to see that show again.

  26. “If teams drafting at No. 49 and below know that Arizona has pick No. 48, they can attempt to predict which player Arizona is targeting, and they can explore jumping the line.”

    Arizona has so many needs figuring out which player they are targeting is a fools errand.

  27. I’ve said this before. Rosen is not the problem. They put him behind the worst OL in the league plus he went thru 2 offensive coordinators last year alone and would now be on his 3rd. I wouldn’t give up more than a 3rd due to AZ being desperate. I still don’t understand the # 1 pick though. That team has a ton of holes to fill. Offense isn’t going to slow down Russel Wilson, Jared Goff or the 49ers once their offense starts to hum. They will still be a the bottom of that division 2 years from now and that’s if they give their new coach more than 1 year on the job unlike Wilks from last year. SMH

  28. SMOKE SCREEN. No more than a 3rd and better off passing. He’s not a fit with the rebuild. Value yes, fit, no.

  29. Another team that may want Rosen may also come in and offer more. The Dolphins may than need to sweeten the pot or risk having to do without Rosen.

  30. No way no know how good Rosen can be yet. The HC who picked him was fired and his OC has been fired more than once. He had no chance.

    Wish him the best.

  31. The part about jumping in front of Arizona to scoop their pick is pretty funny. If I was a GM, I’d be staying away from anyone the Cards wanted to draft.

  32. It’ll be interesting to see if the Cards made the Right Move in Drafting Murray / trading Rose, or if it is a mistake. Time will tell.

  33. If Rosen is so great… why did he only total 59 td – 26 int
    and NEGATIVE 154 rushing yards in the constant sun of Los Angeles (in the weak pac-12)?!?

    Good luck, Josh.

  34. If this trade happens AFC East is going to have Darnold, Allen & Rosen, 3 of 5 2018 1st round QB’s. Then there is the grand master Tom Brady to round out the division, LOL

  35. omeimontis says:
    April 26, 2019 at 3:53 pm
    Another team that may want Rosen may also come in and offer more. The Dolphins may than need to sweeten the pot or risk having to do without Rosen

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    I’m trying to figure out what “risk having to do without Rosen” is supposed to mean

  36. Poor Rosen. This would be a lousy outcome for him. Going to a mediocre team who has a veteran QB that can win any game and would be called in without hesitation. If the team does poorly this year, fans will be calling for one of the QBs in the draft next year, which would be like Groundhog Day for Rosen.

    It doesn’t make a lot of sense for Miami, either, unless they truly believe Rosen is their franchise guy going forward, which I doubt.

    If the perceived talent and intelligence in Rosen is really there, he needs a good team to put it into practice.

  37. Don’t do it for a 2nd round pick, Miami. Tannehill had a better rookie season than Rosen…Just sayin’. They’d be better off sticking with Fitz this year and drafting a QB in 2020.

  38. Rosen must want this too. Its a new start where he’s the man. A team that gives him a chance to be the long term starter. HUGE opportunity for Rosen.

  39. “They put him behind the worst OL in the league”

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    The Texans apparently said “hold my beer” to that thought last season.

  40. That is a STEAL for Josh Rosen guys…

    His salary is minuscule, his cap hit will be less than most THIRD string QBs, and because he was a first rounder last season, the Phins have that option for the 5th year.

    Anybody saying “wait”… isn’t thinking right now. Gove up the 48th and don’t even blink.

  41. A friend of the organization has informed me that it’s actually Rosen who’s forcing Arizona’s hand.
    He’s threatening to hold his breath until he turns aqua blue.

  42. Rosen could be a great quarterback. Hard to tell with what he had to work with in Arizona. Arizona gave up on him way too early. Can’t expect a rookie quarterback to carry a team with a horrible offensive line and only Fitzgerald to throw to. I hope he has a great career.

  43. No brainer, Dolphins know what they are getting. A young QB with several NFL games under his belt behind a terrible line and nothing really to throw to. If we drafted a player it might be 2-3 years to see something. If this project fails… we can draft one next year.

  44. But, but, but Miami is tanking for Tua next year. Could Rosen get screwed twice?

  45. Better now for him than later in the active season if a starting QB goes down and he’s thrown into an unfamiliar team and has no idea what the plays are. At least he has the chance to start out in the spring in a system and learn, same as last year but also same as this year as Cards have new HC/OC, new system. He has a much better chance starting in Miami after he learns their system as Fitzpatrick is not the ultimate answer for them, at least Rosen just might be the answer.

  46. The Cardinals jumped in front of the phins to get him last year. So essentially they gave Miami Minka Fitzpatrick for a second round pick.

  47. Josh Rosen started 13 games and was sacked 45 times last year. He had no line, they couldn’t run the ball and their defense was terrible. You can’t judge a rookie who was thrown into that situation, The 48th overall is nothing for him. The guy was a really good college QB – much better than Daniel Jones. Matt Hasselbeck was asked where he would rank Rosen if he was in this year’s draft class, and Hasselbeck said he would have him 2nd overall among QB’s. Give the kid a chance to develop and play behind a line where he’s not running for his life. I think he’ll end up being the Dolphins QB for a long time.

  48. Fleeced? Rosen played behind a horrible OL, how could anyone make a judgement on what type of player he may or may not turn out to be? Also, other than an aging Larry Fitzgerald, who is still a very good receiver, but way past his prime, who did he have to catch the ball?

    Just like the draft, the highest prospect can turn out to be a complete bust, just as a player deemed not worth drafting can turn out to be a great player. We’ve all seen both scenarios many, many times.

  49. Kind of like being drafted all over again, good for the Dolphins and JR! The Cards are one messed up organization and quickly becoming the laughing stock of the NFL. Let him sit and watch until Fitz goes into one of his yearly funks, then away he goes! Please don’t wait 7 years to figure out if he is a franchise QB or not, that Stings!

  50. Rosen hasn’t shown an ability to do anything at the nfl level. If you trade for Rosen and he doesn’t show an ability to take the job from Fitz then you have a huge problem because he would have zero trade value. Cards made a mistake but don’t be the idiot franchise to help them out of it. Cards desire to get rid of Rosen is more dire than the fins need to find a qb. Fins can literally wait till next year if they want. Cards can’t wait another month to trade Rosen. Spare me the garbage about the bad oline…Miami has no line either!!!! Build the line first before you throw anybody back there and get them killed.

  51. All the chatter is moot until both Murray and Rosen play this season. In fact, the real evaluations don’t take stock until 3 to 4 years, and that’s IF the offensive schemes and coaches are consistent. Calling Rosen a bust or stating Keim is making a big mistake is superfluous. Replacing Rosen with Murray is a statistical improvement; we’ll see if Kyler can adjust to the NFL.

  52. Miami should just give a 7th rd pick and a 12 pack of Keystone light, doesn’t even have to be cold.

  53. There were rumors that Rosen really didn’t care about football before last years draft, and rumors that he spent more time partying than playbooking in Arizona. Talent means nothing if you aren’t willing to commit fully to be the QB and team leader. Ask Buccaneers fans about Josh Freeman, or Jacksonville fans about Bortles. Maybe this humiliation will put the needed chip on his shoulder, but I wouldn’t risk a 2nd round pick on it.

  54. I hate it but this is a GREAT trade for the Phins. Rosen is a better prospect than all but one or two of this year’s prospects and they will be getting him for a mid round 2nd. That being said, if they wait until tomorrow they could probably get him for a 3rd and a 2020 mid rounder.

    Very sorry to see the AFCE grab all these good players…again.

  55. hawkkiller says:
    I know a report leaked AZ could draft CB B. Murphy but AZ isn’t taking him, they don’t need a corner as badly as they need to add receiver and OL help.
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    Reports from all sides told us for months Arizona was going to pick Kyler Murray, yet you left countless long-winded posts assuring us the Cardinals were invested in Josh Rosen, they “loved” him in fact, and the Murray buzz was all just a smokescreen.
    Your take on Byron Murphy may or may not prove to be accurate — we’ll find out tonight. But based on a long history of detailed yet failed predictions, you’ll forgive me if I don’t take any of your authoritative statements seriously until they actually come to pass.

  56. Rosen is a good QB drafted in a dumpster fire of an organization, run by dumb and drunk dumber. He is tougher than most veterans, able to take hard hits and rebound, intelligent and a good leader, respected by his fellow players for his work ethic and willingness to put in the preparation. Steve Keim is struggling to hold on to his job and made some desperate decisions to go glitz rather than go smar, fans and players alike are in an uproar wanting to jump ship. So, most outsiders don’t have a clue about Rosen’s value and SK is a TERRIBLE deal maker, who can manage to mess up even a no-brainer #1 pick. The Dolphins are getting a great value player who will be around long after Keim, KK, and Murray have been long in the rear view mirror. Good luck Josh Rosen!

  57. The Patriots are blowing smoke waving around their 2nd round pick in order to get the Dolphins to give up their higher pick. You gotta win your division if you want to be a contender, and a small part of that is influencing the roster building ability of your competitors if you can. Doh!

  58. Dylan Bunch says:

    I have been a cardinals fan my whole life, but after the way they have treated Josh Rosen. I’m having a hard time justifying it. What an terrible organization
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    It’s a business. And after one poor season they have given him millions of dollars. Poor Rosen.

  59. Phins fans aren’t very smart saying the cards have no leverage, they do, its Ryan Fitzpatrick!! Good luck with that!! Lol

  60. No other ex-Patriots coach has succeeded on their own, but Brian Flores is looking to change all that. The missing factor was Bill Belichick. Not Bill the coach, but Bill the GM. It began with Tom Brady, and a simple approach. Rosen could fill a big role. At least he’ll give the Dolphins a chance. There are a lot more pieces to the puzzle, but the QB is the big one. There are a lot of HOF QB’s that had similar 1st seasons, when they were drafted to horrendous teams.

  61. The fins should use their 2nd rounder and then ask Arizona if they’re still interested in unloading Rosen

  62. Arz getting a STEAL if they get a 2nd for a guy that has NO trade value to anyteam that knows ARZ’s motivation to move him out of the locker room. Threaten them with inaction and being stuck with him or releasing him, says smart teams.

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    Agree. And the Pats, Chargers etc may well give up a pick to get him if it keeps going. The guy actually COMPETED and wasnt terrible as a rookie in a team offense that MOST VETERAN QBs would struggle. Its a very good move for the fins

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