Patriots’ trades from Jimmy Garoppolo pick turn into six players

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The Patriots are turning the Jimmy Garoppolo trade into quite a haul of talent.

New England traded Garoppolo to San Francisco during the 2017 season for the 49ers’ 2018 second-round draft pick. That pick turned out to be the 43rd overall pick in the 2018 NFL draft. But the Patriots didn’t use it. Instead, they traded it for two picks — and then traded those two picks for more picks, and kept making more trades until the point when they’ve drafted six players with picks that came completely or in part from the 49ers’ second-rounder. And they’re still not done.

As noted by PatsPulpit.com, the Patriots’ moves after the Garoppolo trade have been extraordinary:

They traded the 49ers’ pick last year to the Lions for the 51st and 117th overall picks.

They traded the 51st overall pick to the Bears for the 105th overall pick, plus the Bears’ 2019 second-round pick.

They traded the 105th overall pick to Cleveland for the 114th and 178th overall pick.

They traded the 114th overall pick to Detroit for the Lions’ 2019 third-round pick.

With the 178th overall pick they drafted Christian Sam.

With the 117th overall pick they traded up from their own second-round pick to draft Duke Dawson.

With that 2019 second-round they got from the Bears, the Patriots combined it with another pick to move up this year and draft Joejuan Williams.

With the 2019 third-round pick they got from the Lions, the Patriots made another trade with the Bears, this time getting the 87th and 162nd overall picks, as well as the Bears’ 2020 fourth-round pick.

They used the 87th pick on Damien Harris and packaged the 162nd pick with a third-round pick to get two other picks that they used on Yodny Cajuste and Jarrett Stidham.

So the Patriots got Christian Sam and Damien Harris out of the Garoppolo trade, plus picks that were partially responsible for trades that got them Duke Johnson, Joejuan Williams, Yodny Cajuste and Jarrett Stidham, and they still have the Bears’ 2020 fourth-round pick. That’s a mighty big return for the Patriots.

67 responses to “Patriots’ trades from Jimmy Garoppolo pick turn into six players

  1. Just an epic display of GM wizardry. If Brsdy continues on playing
    well for the next 2-3 years, the Pats are loaded and there is “cap space” coming next year as well.

    Goodell and the Colts/Ravens framejob with Deflategate backfired badly.

    NE has won 3 SBs since the drafting of JimmyG lit a fire under Brady and the lying and defamation of Brady did it even more so.

    Lol!!

  2. Bill can wheel and deal you into thinking you made out pretty well until you realize he just turned 1 player into a bunch of good players for himself. It’s one of those you win the battle while we win the war/superbowl deals.

  3. Except not one of those names have down anything. So they did a good job of getting a lot of names for garrapolo. But we don’t know if they got anyone of use for him. Sounds like a basketball trade where you get a pick and then 6 players form 4 different teams who you plan on cutting 5 of them and give the 6th a ten day contract until one of your injured guys return. But kudos for them for doing what they do trade talent for picks and then picks into more picks. But the truth is the patriots are one 6th round pick 18 years ago from being the worst drafting team in the league.

  4. so convoluted, but in essence, this is exactly why you can not judge a trade (or a draft pick) until time plays out – as of now it seems as though the pats will have turned that trade into what looks like 2 productive players and a potentially good QB, maybe more, all that for Grapp is pretty fair despite many whining that they gave him away too cheap- still can’t say anything definitvely, but that looks not too bad from a Pats perspective, and also from the niners’, win win works

  5. Why is it that only the Pats can make trades like the ones I used to make with the computer in Maddens franchise mode? Well, I guess the Raiders do it too, but they play the role of the computer team that I ripped off.

  6. They definitely got quantity, but what about quality? Other than Gronk, they have drafted exactly zero future Hall of Famers since 2000. The names listed here don’t exactly read like Bosa and Quinnen Williams.

  7. Why do teams continue to give the Patriots future picks a round better than they are trading for? What kind of of twisted thinking is that?

  8. Not only did the Pats receive 6 players and a future pick next year but also still have the GOAT who is still winning SBs. All because they traded Jimmy G. Who says BB is an average GM.

  9. Chess/checkers.

    Well, until you consider that they’ll have no QB next year, and traded a sure franchise guy for a bunch of marginal late round players.

  10. Too early to tell if this was a success yet or not, but I think BB knows how to get the most out of anything you put in front of him. Pancakes, a bag of marbles, double grocery coupons…etc. I’m starting to believe it’s some kind of personality quirk.

  11. meh not really. this is a pretty dumb article at worst… very misleading at best.

    1) Anybody can take a high level pick and turn it into multiple lower level picks. (even fantasy players trading w/draft value chart would do so)

    2) most of the players acquired haven’t played much if at all. (yes bb not fantasy, but even fantasy players need the players to play to win points)

    3) some of the picks used to acquire these players weren’t part of the original trade he cites.

    Every draft yields plenty of multiple players for one pick situations. The trick is in acquiring more value from the lower picks… as much coaching as it is picking imho.

    To no surprise… I’ve seen plenty of larger-scale studies that demonstrate BB is better than most/all at reaping more than average snaps for a given level of picks.
    But he has plenty of losers, and since most of these guys haven’t played yet it’s just a tell that this guy has read previous articles on BB as a whole and trying to apply them conclusively w/out understanding what he read.

    surprised to see pft pick this up but I guess it’s offseason

  12. It’s testament to Belichick’s genius, even though he’s probably not even keeping track. “We’re on to Cincinnati.”

  13. Imagine what they would have gotten if they received more than a second. The Pats still royally screwed themselves..

  14. I guarantee you none of those 6 players will amount to anything, it’s just arrogant Billy B trying to show everyone he can trade.

  15. Plus a 7th – Hoyer. A ready made Patriot backup QB who Pats D say was key to deciphering the Rams SB offense. He was partly why Belichick rang 49ers and in return they did BB a favor by cutting him so they still paid his 2017 salary and let BB cut a fresh backup’s deal.

  16. stucats says:
    April 30, 2019 at 8:02 am

    I guarantee you none of those 6 players will amount to anything, it’s just arrogant Billy B trying to show everyone he can trade.
    ————-
    Guarantee seriously? Guess NFL GM’s need contact you prior to drafting players.

  17. They definitely got quantity, but what about quality? Other than Gronk, they have drafted exactly zero future Hall of Famers since 2000

    —–

    Don’t Super Bowls wins/appearances trump HOF players? 9 Super Bowls and 6 championships since 2000 says that they must have drafted some quality players…

  18. rereynol says:
    April 29, 2019 at 10:36 pm
    They definitely got quantity, but what about quality? Other than Gronk, they have drafted exactly zero future Hall of Famers since 2000. The names listed here don’t exactly read like Bosa and Quinnen Williams. It’s all about winning super bowls and nothing else !

  19. Well, until you consider that they’ll have no QB next year, and traded a sure franchise guy for a bunch of marginal late round players.

    ___

    “Sure franchise guy”

    Garrapolo is that? You sure? All hes done so far is play a few pretty good games and the get hurt twice.

  20. rageviral says:
    April 30, 2019 at 6:18 am
    The rest of the NFL needs to get together and agree not to trade with them. Let’s see how good they are then. That’s what it’s gonna take to stop this patriot juggernaut 😂😂😂

  21. carloswlassiter says:
    April 30, 2019 at 9:24 am
    Can anyone tell me what Jimmy G. has accomplished so far? He does have 2 rings 😁

  22. silverwolf1898 says:
    April 29, 2019 at 10:53 pm
    And their contingency plan for QB is to pray that Brady can play forever. Sofar so good🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆😁

  23. I love the Patriots and have been a fan since the start of the franchise. But I am really sick of the chess versus checkers comments – enough already! They probably make BB cringe anyways.

  24. Its really funny when fans of other teams try to come up with criticisms for the way the pats do things like drafting and trading. They start every year by telling themselves “THIS will be the year the pats fall off a cliff” and then they cry after the pats win another SB.

    The pats have become the most successful franchise in NFL history. If you have a problem with the way the pats draft….LOL at you!

  25. “Why do teams continue to give the Patriots future picks a round better than they are trading for? ”

    Its a standard in the league that if you want a pick in this year’s draft and you’re offering one in next year’s that the offer has to in general be a higher round pick than what you’re immediately getting.

  26. george1859 says:
    April 30, 2019 at 6:19 am

    Imagine what they would have gotten if they received more than a second. The Pats still royally screwed themselves.
    _________________________
    “Royally screwed?”

    They won the SuperBowl after the trade with game prep help from Hoyer that all say was significant

  27. pnut2380 says:
    April 29, 2019 at 10:09 pm
    Except not one of those names have down anything. So they did a good job of getting a lot of names for garrapolo. But we don’t know if they got anyone of use for him.

    ——

    And what has Garrapolo done? SF picked 2nd this year in the draft. Since the trade, the Pats have have gone to two super bowls, kept Brady, saved cap space, and added depth, and potentially Garrapolo’s replacement at a fraction of the cost.

  28. pftpffftttt says:

    April 30, 2019 at 12:00 am

    “…But he has plenty of losers, and since most of these guys haven’t played yet it’s just a tell that this guy has read previous articles on BB as a whole and trying to apply them conclusively w/out understanding what he read.

    surprised to see pft pick this up but I guess it’s offseason”

    —————————-

    Really? PatsPulpit/Rich Hill are together one of the most-respected Patriots coverages in all of the media. PFT has frequently cited Rich Hill’s updated draft value chart in the past, along with many other original/interesting/well-researched items.

  29. pnut2380 says:
    April 29, 2019 at 10:09 pm
    Except not one of those names have done anything…
    ——————————————–

    Which is something they currently have in common with Garoppolo on the 49ers.

    With that kind of draft volume in return, the odds are pretty good the Pats will be getting good return in that trade. Check back in a couple of years.

  30. rereynol says:
    April 29, 2019 at 10:36 pm
    They definitely got quantity, but what about quality? Other than Gronk, they have drafted exactly zero future Hall of Famers since 2000.
    ——————————
    Richard Seymour was a 2001 pick and an HOF finalist this year. 2004 pick Vince Wilfork is also likely to get consideration as well.

  31. savagenation2011 says:
    April 30, 2019 at 12:58 am

    None of which have done anything in the NFL
    ———————————————
    And Garoppolo has done what exactly?

  32. Since 2000……
    The Patriots have had only 4 top 20 picks in the NFL draft.

    According to profootball reference the Patriots have drafted 20 top 20 players for their respective draft classes. The following list includes the year, player, rank and draft choice used by the Patriots. Top 20 picks*

    2000 Brady 1 (199)
    2001 Seymour* 8 (6)
    2002 Branch 20 (65)
    2003 Koppen 9 (164)
    2003 Samuel 11 (120)
    2004 Wilfork 5 (21)
    2005 Mankins 2 (32)
    2008 Mayo* 18 (10)
    2009 Vollmer 13 (58)
    2009 Edelman 16 (232)
    2010 Gronkowski 5 (42)
    2010 McCourty 17 (27)
    2011 Solder* 14 (17)
    2012 Jones 8 (21)
    2012 Hightower 15 (25)
    2013 Collins 11 (52)
    2015 Mason 15 (131)
    2015 Brown 18 (32)
    2016 Thuney 10 (78)
    2017 Michel 15 (31)

    Ty Warren is the only top 20 selection the Patriots have made that isn’t ranked in the top 20. He is ranked 36th but the Patriots used the 13th selection.

    Looks ok to me.

    Go Patriots!

  33. Parcheesi vs. Candyland

    Just tired of the same ol’ “Chess vs. Checkers”

  34. toekramp says:
    April 29, 2019 at 9:14 pm
    Still would rather just have Jimmy.

    ——————

    What you are effectively saying is you would rather have Jimmy than last years Super Bowl win.

  35. pnut2380 says:
    April 29, 2019 at 10:09 pm
    Except not one of those names have down anything. So they did a good job of getting a lot of names for garrapolo. But we don’t know if they got anyone of use for him. Sounds like a basketball trade where you get a pick and then 6 players form 4 different teams who you plan on cutting 5 of them and give the 6th a ten day contract until one of your injured guys return. But kudos for them for doing what they do trade talent for picks and then picks into more picks. But the truth is the patriots are one 6th round pick 18 years ago from being the worst drafting team in the league.

    —————

    It’s naive to think that Brady is the only reason the Patriots have been successful. The other 52 guys had to be pretty good to get to the Super Bowl so frequently.

    What they got for Jimmy G trade is better than nothing, which is what they would have gotten if they waited until the end of the year. They weren’t going to trade Brady, which in hindsight was a pretty smart decision given he won the Super Bowl and jimmy G ended up missing the year.

  36. BB learned this From Jimmy Johnson. It is said/written that when he took over the Patriots in 00/01, he spent a week fishing in Florida with JJ. One little pearl of wisdom past down was on team building…

    “Collect as many draft picks as you can”

    One can say that he learned something.

    Just sayin

  37. BB just needs competent players. With his coaching and Brady, I remain convinced that he could turn at least 20 other rosters in the league into SB contenders.

  38. rereynol says:
    April 29, 2019 at 10:36 pm
    They definitely got quantity, but what about quality? Other than Gronk, they have drafted exactly zero future Hall of Famers since 2000. The names listed here don’t exactly read like Bosa and Quinnen Williams.

    You want jackets, Bill wants rings. I’m with Bill. The Hall of Popular isn’t what it used to be.

  39. Could have gotten the same picks if we traded Brady instead of Garoppolo plus a secured future at QB.

  40. CHESS V CHECKERS?

    I heard this a lot, but disagree…….Belichick is playing 3D chess, on a whole nother level to the rest, and Ernie Adams has an often understated role in advising BB.

    Not only does BB wheel and deal in any given draft, but The Patriots seem to have a better grasp of the value at positions across the years; knowing when to give up a pick for a veteran, and trade picks for a veteran like they just did with Michael Bennett.

    Belichick is playing ‘three-dimensional chess’ over there.

  41. One reason they traded Jimmy was because they didn’t think he could last in the NFL, injury wise. Let me know when he can play at least 16 games in a row.

  42. idislikespeciousness says:
    April 30, 2019 at 1:59 pm
    ……

    Ty Warren is the only top 20 selection the Patriots have made that isn’t ranked in the top 20. He is ranked 36th but the Patriots used the 13th selection.
    ——————————————————————–

    I am surprised that Brown was ranked in the top 20 for the 2015 class. I actually think Brown is a consistent and reasonably good player, and I was surprised the Pats did not pick up his fifth year option, but ultimately he was not the player we were hoping he would be (e.g. Vince WilforK II).

    I am also surprised that Ty Warren, a former Patriot I thought highly of, was ranked that low. I would have to review that draft class but that must have been a really good class.

  43. BB allows teams to take the players he does not want anymore and they think that they have a star. But then he takes their players and makes them into stars. I know it’s not fair, but kids that’s how it is. Go cry somewhere else.

  44. 2009 Pats trade 23rd pick to Baltimore for two picks
    They trade the two picks to GB for three picks.
    They draft Brandon Tate and Darius Butler and trade the other pick the jags for two future picks.
    The use one of the future picks on Julian Edelman and trade the final pick for the 42nd pick which they use on Rob Gronkowski.

    The 23rd pick for Butler, Tate, Edelman and Gronkowski.

    Do you do the deal? LOL

  45. Sounds like that guy that traded a paper clip and ended up with a house along the way. I suppose when you are consistently picking at the bottom of the draft you have to be creative and probably can be if there isn’t a player that floats your boat.

  46. Two above-average players in the bunch more than pays for the Garoppolo trade. Some joker complained about the number of HoF players the Pats have had since 2000. That’s exactly the point – BB creates championship teams from dust while some people worry about HoF-ers.

    What does it matter for HoF-ers that never win a Superbowl? Dan Marino, Barry Sanders, Fran Tarkenton? I’ll take a bunch of no-names and 6 Superbowls any day.

  47. Jimmy G has been in the league for what, 5 years now and this is his sum of accomplishments:
    – he was a backup QB who never played
    – he’s still GQ good looking
    Other than that…it’s all “potential”.

    The Patriots are planning their season with all the guys mentioned above in the article. All have “potential”. Some are, I assume, good looking.

  48. Seymour and Wilfork will both probably get in the HoF, Gronk is a first ballot lock, and I’d imagine Logan Mankins will be a candidate as well.

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