Which quarterbacks most need the Belichick treatment?

Posted by Mike Florio on May 4, 2019, 10:24 AM EDT
Getty Images

Martellus Bennett became the latest former Patriot to peel back the curtain regarding the extent to which coach Bill Belichick gives the business to quarterback Tom Brady. Which provided the impetus for a PFT Live draft on Friday.

Which NFL quarterbacks would most benefit from being treated that same way?

Big Cat and I went back and forth on the subject, three rounds each. As usual, Big Cat found a way to stress fracture the rules, while also finding a way to mess with me.

Check if out below, and stay tuned all weekend for clips from last week’s editions of PFT Live and #PFTPM.

Permalink 27 Comments Feed for comments Back to top

27 responses to “Which quarterbacks most need the Belichick treatment?”

  2. As usual, Big Cat found a way to stress fracture the rules, while also finding a way to mess with me.

    —————————–

    I’m still waiting for the day when Big Cat outs you for all that KISS make up you have stashed away in your closet.

    Philip Rivers needs the Parcells (not Belichick) treatment with respects to the quarterback position not being handled with kid gloves. His playoff performances are atrocious. I also wonder in Andrew Luck would not benefit from this? Time will tell if the “players coach” Reich can get it done with Luck in the playoffs.

  3. polksaladandy says:

    That fat guy in Pittsburgh. What’s his name? I used to see him in the playoffs.

    I think that’s more of a function of the coach instead of the players. Speaking of which, his coach could use some Belichick treatment.

    The only problem with the Belichick treatment is the mentality of players these days. They are all about “me” and if a coach were to do that to them they would pout and whine and get the coach fired. There’s probably only a handful of guys who could forget about their ego and take that kind of coaching. I think Philip Rivers could although he doesn’t need it. I think Blake Bortles could have benefitted from it but he could have regressed even further. So many QBs now have such fragile egos I don’t think it would help them. It takes a certain guy of kind to put up with it.

  4. Whatever Belichick says to Brady when they’re in the presence of other players is meant for the benefit of the other players. Belichick and Brady are on the same wave length. You can’t demand perfection from others if you don’t demand it for your best player. Nobody demands more of themselves than Brady. That’s why he prepares so well and knows what the defense is going to do before every snap. That’s not a Belichick thing, that’s a Brady thing.

  5. The Belichick treatment sounds cool to guys who want to see someone get chewed out, but the truth is no one cares how a guy is treated by his coach as long as he wins. I don’t care how A-Rod is treated, put into a baby crib every night and asked who’s been a good boy, absolutely destroyed on a daily basis and made to feel utterly worthless, anything in between. Don’t care. Are you winning? Do more of that. Are you losing? Do something else.

  6. Send him Dak Prescott. Prescott has the intangibles, poor pocket discipline and horrible read progressionz.footwork is non existent. Could become great

  8. Rodgers could not handle Belichick. His passive aggression would reach new heights and when that was not enabled Rodgers would break.

    Hey did you know 1 minus 2 is negative 1?

  10. Not everybody could stomach BB’s condescending abuse. Brady endures it because he knows BB is a great coach and Brady wants to win. Brady also feeds off doubters so such criticism motivates him.

  12. I can think of only 31 other NFL starting QBs, and all their backups, who’d benefit from it.

  14. Honestly,
    I d have to say E-V-E-R-Y QB
    As QB’s today are shielded & protected from the same treatment as bus counterparts

    Jokingly,
    I’d say ARod or Big Ben
    Just from media spins
    Lol

    But veteran QB’s making the most money should be held to the same stringents as a Tom Brady
    Who has the most SB wins of any QB & is #18 on the list if Top Pay

  15. Another Cult of Belichick question? Belichick only can do this because he’s earned nine rings. Other coaches could not speak to the players we have today with the same tone because the players would walk out. When a legend who has proven his acumen does it, you listen. And when your star player that you harass in the film room is 100% committed, it helps. No player would listen to any coach who appears to be a hypocrite. The only other team I can think of that is set up to do that right now is New Orleans, and Drew Brees’ hand in developing the offense with Payton makes the situation different than Belichick and Brady, who inherently come from different sides of the ball (even though Belichick is, in my opinion, the last two way coach in the league). Bruce Arians might do it, I could see that, and Winston definitely 100% needs it.

    Really, though, we can’t answer this question from outside the locker rooms. Without seeing how each QB works and how each coach handles him, we cannot really say what they need or don’t need to change about their approach.

  16. Not sure if Belichick still calls out Brady so much. That was one of the things that Brady said was getting tired and old and that he complained about subsequent to Tom vs. Time coming out. The two reached an agreement on this and Guerrero. At this point, Brady is a coach on the field and probably understands the quarterback position better than anyone who has ever played it.

  18. ak185 says:
    May 4, 2019 at 2:58 pm
    Another Cult of Belichick question? Belichick only can do this because he’s earned nine rings. Other coaches could not speak to the players we have today with the same tone because the players would walk out….
    ————————————–
    “Only” eight rings for Belichick at this time, slacker that he is.

    Most of what I have read about Belichick, the various anecdotes, is that he is rarely a screamer as a Coach, but his remarks can certainly be as cutting with his players as they can be with the media. They can even at times be self-deprecating and cutting. I remember reading he was not happy with some of the center play one practice and he told the player(s) in a meeting while watching film “I played center in college, and I sucked, but I could do better than that.”

    No wonder Martellus Bennett says he finds BB’s cutting remarks hilarious.

  20. ““Only” eight rings for Belichick at this time, slacker that he is.

    Most of what I have read about Belichick, the various anecdotes, is that he is rarely a screamer as a Coach, but his remarks can certainly be as cutting with his players as they can be with the media. They can even at times be self-deprecating and cutting. I remember reading he was not happy with some of the center play one practice and he told the player(s) in a meeting while watching film “I played center in college, and I sucked, but I could do better than that.”

    No wonder Martellus Bennett says he finds BB’s cutting remarks hilarious.”

    ——————-

    Thanks for the correction. Only eight? Well, there goes his gravitas.

    I agree with what you said, and I often find Belichick to be more humorous than surly. Of course, I always find it satisfying to see “journalists” be given their comeuppance, especially when they assume that they have the right to know just about anything. I don’t envision him being a screamer either, but I do not envision him tempering his words with honey. I do not see him being a Jason Garrett, for example (not attacking Garrett, just comparing styles of speech) who uses a lot of filler words to make his audience comfortable in team meetings, which is evident in the All or Nothing season with the Cowboys. If I had to guess, I’d say that Gruden and Arians probably do something similar, approach-wise at least.

    I don’t think this approach is good for every quarterback, and we don’t know exactly how each team does it. Maybe some do. But without the credentials of Belichick, it’s hard to convince guys to take it (even if they should). Even the guys who would be willing may chafe at the approach after a while.

  21. Being treated to the defenses signals – I’d say every quarterback who’s ever come through the league, e.g., Matt Cassel, 11-5, 2008. ‘Fat’ Ben’s 40 time at the 2004 Combine, 4.75. Tom Brady at the 2000 Combine, 5.28.

  22. Really ??….. wow the swollen brains of bandwagon nation is waaaaaay out of hand …Man I’d love to see Bill & Tammy dealing with the 1976 rule book …….

  23. treat the any of the other 31 like brady and they’ll go into the fetal position or have a twitter hissie fit.

Leave a Reply

You must be logged in to leave a comment. Not a member? Register now!

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.