Next up: An effort to get the Kraft video expunged

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With a Florida judge ruling that the surveillance video in the Robert Kraft solicitation of prostitution case cannot be used at trial, the fact remains that the video exists — and that Florida law makes any evidence generated in the normal exercise of law-enforcement activities subject to public disclosure.

Thus, as the case moves forward, an effort will be made by Kraft’s lawyers to have the surveillance video permanently expunged, preventing it from ever being obtained by media outlets and/or the general public.

It’s possible, in theory, that the video will be subject to public disclosure, even though a judge has ruled that failure to protect innocent citizens who were legitimately getting massages at the Orchids of Asia day spa makes the video inadmissible at the trial of Kraft, who allegedly solicited prostitution. Kraft’s lawyers will surely argue aggressively against that outcome, hoping to parlay Monday’s victory into a ruling that keeps the humiliating video of Kraft engaged in sexual activities from ever seeing the light of day.

It’s still not clear who actually would want to see the video. Most football fans don’t.

75 responses to “Next up: An effort to get the Kraft video expunged

  1. “. . . the humiliating video of Kraft engaged in sexual activities . . .”
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    Allegedly.

  2. If illegally obtained evidence is subject to public disclosure, then so would the evidence of those who were recorded in various states of undress, and have committed no wrongdoing.

    That would just compound the civil judgements in the lawsuits against the county. I wouldnt want to be a taxpayer in Jupiter or Martin county.

  3. Sorry, but are we supposed to pretend that the incident NEVER happened and that Mr Krafty NEVER received a massage with a happy ending, just because he has the financial means to fight and defeat sheriff Taylor and the Mayberry Police Department. The filthy rich get away with filth!

  4. Say all this goes away, charges dropped and video never sees the light of day. What does Goodell do? Lots of players saw his hammer fall on them without any charges. This is going to get interesting…

  5. Most football fans do want to see it. It is always nice to see that truth, that Kraft is a lying scumbag.

  6. If it can’t be used at trial because it violated the rules and/or the law wouldn’t there be a strong legal argument to have it sealed or destroyed?

  7. Why do they care? Unless you’re actively seeking nightmare fuel, no one’s going out in search of this. What an embarrassment for this fanbase.

  8. This goes to show that big money and prestige can admonish all those involved in crimes. This even includes our sitting president. Donald Trump needs to put up on charges as well but because he has the power like an NFL owner who is friends with the president, he has the green light to go scot-free.

  9. Kraft is disgusting. He could have shown some humility not to mention humanity and simply said
    “I’m sorry” and took the resulting consequences like the rest of us, but instead he invoked the “Ugly American” persona of the super rich. Screw you Bobby, you are forever tainted.

  10. “It’s still not clear who actually would want to see the video. Most football fans don’t.”

    Lol. Most football fans are tired of hearing about the entire incident.

  11. Money talks and the truth takes a long, long walk.
    If the commissioner doesn’t act on Kraft he shouldn’t be acting against players either.

  12. It never stops to amaze me what big money can buy, even things like so-called “justice”. If that twerp didn’t have a multi-million dollar gang of lawyers his wrinkley butt’s pictures would be public record by now.

  13. Video or not everyone has formed an opinion about the situation, and I’m sure each one varies from the next, but every last dime Robert Kraft has to spend on his expensive team of lawyers will never “expunge” anything from public memory.

  14. I see no problems with Kraft protecting himself. Apparently players are allowed to use any and all means to protect themselves but owners are not. SMH.
    The man made a mistake, as MANY players do but players are allowed to make tons of “mistakes” but if an owner makes just ONE mistake then he must pay for it forever (based on media reports).
    Again SMH.

  15. He’s a scum bag with money. Money doesn’t buy class. He’s not “expunged” from everyone not in Boston knowing that.

  16. Private Jet to Florida. $450,000
    Team of high price lawyers $1,600,000
    $79 massage….priceless

  17. Florida is the south and big shot attorneys and their wealthy clients sometimes forget that. Besides there is always TMZ to bring Kraft down.

  18. This case is a great example of Prosecutorial abuse and the politicization of justice.

    Anyone that values THEIR freedom and privacy should be cheering for Kraft to win with the hope that his success causes certain “public servants” to lose their jobs.

  19. eventually it will get out, someone has it and will sell it to the highest bidder. Then the networks will be all up in arms about what the NFL know and when exactly did they know it…..

  20. Regardless of what you think of Kraft, this was clear abuse of power and invasion of privacy by FL law enforcement. All the videos should be expunged and all charges dropped.

  21. Media outlets will do everything possible to obtain the video for their commercial use. However Kraft’s Lawyers should be allowed to pick up the only copy of the video and destroy it. This article stated, ‘In theory subject to public disclosure’ Public disclosure laws have exceptions that apply; Which in theory could be commercial use that does not result in personal or financial harm to a person. Does anyone really think that owner Robert Kraft would not be harmed by public disclosure of this video. I can see media outlets arguing in court and exhausting all appeals to obtain the video long after the charges against Robert Kraft are dropped.

  22. Don’t see how illegally obtained material can ever rightfully become public record – as I’ve been warning the salty mountain of hate about since the start. So far all it has revealed is:-

    1) Cops knowingly broke folks’ legal rights and invented reasons for doing so.
    2) Cops exceeded specific surveillance instructions from the judge.
    3) When cops exceed those instructions they already knew no trafficking was going on.
    4) Cops hoaxed a bomb scare in order to install cameras.
    5) Cops threatened to illegally leak their illegally obtained video if Kraft didn’t admit guilt.
    6) Cops lied about human trafficking and falsely implicated Kraft was somehow involved.
    7) Cops lied there being an even bigger name involved.
    8) Cops lied saying vid shows Kraft with 2 foreign girls – when it was one 58yr old local.

  23. Say what you will about Kraft and how you think he is “guilty” but I commend him for going after what looks like a textbook case of overzealous prosecution and entrapment. This should also be a warning to all people rich or poor to have at least 10k for a good defense attorney cause you never know when you maybe ensnared by pernicious law enforcement. I hope all these clowns in PBC Florida are brought to shame and accountability for their malfeasance. As a country we really do need more citizen oversight of law enforcement as they are often just as guilty of criminality as anyone. I personally find this whole episode disgusting and disheartening.

  24. It’s kinda like a car crash on the side of the road.. You don’t really want to look but find yourself rubber-necking as you drive past.

  25. The nfl is a funny thing.

    You can buy prostitutes, give super bowl rings to Vladimir Putin,
    and still keep ownership of an nfl franchise…

    … but…

    … you can’t smoke weed.

  26. If by “effort” you actually mean “a nation whose criminal justice is catered to protect the wealthy” then yeah sure.

    If you have enough money in this country you can buy your own path of “due process”.

    Kind of disturbing to see a nation’s basic rule of law decay as ours has over time. Really hard to even begin to respect it anymore.

  27. Don’t care if the video comes out. Don’t care if he’s prosecuted. He made a dumb mistake, apologized (admitted it) and now has to live with the shame.

    How long until the season begins?

  28. Who cares about the video? This will always be another event that should be embarrassing to Mr Kraft. He went to a “dump” in a shopping center, when with his money he could have been a little more sensible.
    I am sure his family and girlfriend are not too impressed with this. It is what it is, it will never go away. The lawyers are getting richer by the day.

  29. Somewhere, someone with access to the video is debating whether or not the payoff for leaking it outweighs getting fired.

  30. “Lots of players saw his hammer fall on them without any charges.
    If the commissioner doesn’t act on Kraft he shouldn’t be acting against players either.”

    Multiple players have been arrested over the years for soliciting prostitution and the NFL never punished any of them in any way for doing so.

    This was not a violent crime. It was not domestic abuse. The human trafficking claim was a lie by the police. Those are the sorts of things the league typically acts on whether or not the player is convicted of anything.

  31. “Besides there is always TMZ to bring Kraft down.”

    That’s funny. Even if TMZ got the video, how exactly would that “bring Kraft down”? He paid for sex. Seedy behavior yes, but there was no violence, nothing was forced, it was 2 misdemeanors. Seeing it isn’t going to change those facts. Have to laugh at people acting like this was somehow the crime of the century just because they don’t like the Pats.

  32. A low level staffer could quit their job be set for life with the money they’d make selling that video. Whether it’s destroyed or not you’re kidding yourself if you think there aren’t backups out there.

  33. It doesn’t make sense to me that video determined to be recorded illegally by police showing a person in a state of undress or a sexual situation would be released to the public. What if police were illegally recording video in the changing area of a retail store to catch a shop lifter? If you were an innocent shopper that happened to try on some clothes that day would you want the tape released to the public? It doesn’t make sense that it would be released.

  34. Fortunately, no Florida judge will ever be able to remove the numerous asterisks next to all of NE’s unearned championships — from Spygate to Spagate.

  35. No matter what happens, a billionaire with all the resources in the world to do whatever he wants whenever he wants with pretty much any woman (or man) on the planet, walked into a strip mall in Florida and put his reputation, legacy, and name on the line.

    I hope his stupidity and carelessness follows him everywhere he goes.

  36. When it gets leaked and Jupiter gets sued for a billion dollars, the tax payers can thank the DA and LE for wasting their money. It will happen due to the pettiness of the DA and LE.

  37. “protect innocent citizens who were legitimately getting massages at the Orchids of Asia day spa”

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    I laughed.

  38. TimTebowGodOfFootballKarma says:
    May 14, 2019 at 11:26 am
    Fortunately, no Florida judge will ever be able to remove the numerous asterisks next to all of NE’s unearned championships — from Spygate to Spagate.

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    Did you know Tom Brady has appeared in more one sixth of all Super Bowls in history and more than a quarter of all AFC Championships in history. Just thought you may be interested in that.

  39. I would be surprised if a copy or two haven’t already been made and someone is just waiting for it to be “expunged” so its value goes through the roof.

  40. harrisonhits2 says:
    May 14, 2019 at 10:30 am
    “Besides there is always TMZ to bring Kraft down.”

    That’s funny. Even if TMZ got the video, how exactly would that “bring Kraft down”? He paid for sex. Seedy behavior yes, but there was no violence, nothing was forced, it was 2 misdemeanors. Seeing it isn’t going to change those facts. Have to laugh at people acting like this was somehow the crime of the century just because they don’t like the Pats.
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    If the video goes public, it will only hurt Kraft. Goodell reacts to public pressure. Having the owner of the Super Bowl Champions on the internet naked engaging in illegal acts is not good for the NFL.

  41. SparkyGump says:
    May 14, 2019 at 12:43 pm
    Billionaire oligarchs are wrecking the planet with zero accountability, why should Krafty be held to a different standard?

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    Why should the law be allowed to break the law to frame someone or embarrass them for a promotion, extortion or defamation?

    This is a misdemeanor.

    Why did this even happen? When you have an issue, you always go the source. A 77 year old single man in a parlor is not the problem.

  42. trubiskyisworsethanCutlerandwillalwaysbeinjured says:
    May 14, 2019 at 11:49 am
    When it gets leaked and Jupiter gets sued for a billion dollars, the tax payers can thank the DA and LE for wasting their money. It will happen due to the pettiness of the DA and LE.

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    100% correct. When this story broke, I knew something smelled, because they only released kraft’s name. That was VERY suspicious. If there was trafficking, why does it matter WHO the customers are?

    And, I said, Kraft could sue and win over this, bankrupting the entire county.

  43. Remember when the DA said he was running a human trafficking ring?

    Get your shine box ready.

  44. Allegedly.

    Come on homer he said he was sorry.Do innocent people apologize for not doing something. You look so stupid defending this smuck.

  45. Mr. Kraft has led a very good, above board life. His philanthropic endeavors are legendary. I don’t believe a mans life (no matter who he is) should be ruined over a very minor transgression where no one was injured. The fact is is that the police were overzealous and were wrong.

  46. Krafty will feel the heat when he shows up at road games once his suspension is over. It’s not like it didn’t happen. Sorry that’s how it works. Everybody will look at him and just see an old man caught with his pants down but won’t admit it. Come on Krafty show some stones.

  47. SparkyGump says:
    May 14, 2019 at 12:43 pm
    Billionaire oligarchs are wrecking the planet with zero accountability…
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    This is not Russia, and never will be, in spite of the continuing efforts of the Trump administration, and the Trump sycophants in Congress, to make this great Country an extension of Russia.

  48. I don’t want to see the video myself as I like eating and don’t need my stomach retching. That said, I do want to see it released and out in the public domain. Kraft needa to have some accountability. This is a perfect example of justice going to the rich. Unless an average Joe can also bury the tape reasonably, this needs to be publicized

  49. I would be fine with people in a court room, where I am absent, seeing the video.

  50. Casca’s friend says:
    May 14, 2019 at 6:06 am
    Guilty!!!

    Good job lawyers; way to get a dirty man off (no, not that way) on a technicality

    Every law and rule is a technicality, technically.

    Besides, do you want the police to be able to prosecute people when the police don’t follow the rules?

  51. Is Kraft going to celebrate the video not being released with a trip to the spa buffet?

  52. TimTebowGodOfFootballKarma says:
    May 14, 2019 at 11:26 am
    Fortunately, no Florida judge will ever be able to remove the numerous asterisks next to all of NE’s unearned championships — from Spygate to Spagate.

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    Just like no Florida Judge will be able to remove the unicorns in the area. Because there aren’t any.

  53. “Besides, do you want the police to be able to prosecute people when the police don’t follow the rules?”

    They want the police to be able to fabricate things against the Pats just like Goodell does. However against anyone else, no of course they don’t.

    That’s called a double standard

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