Kyle Rudolph, Vikings are talking extension, but not making much progress

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The talks between the Vikings and tight end Kyle Rudolph on a potential contract extension aren’t dead, but they currently aren’t going anywhere.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the Vikings and Rudolph have not ended talks (contrary to a recent report that they have). However, the two sides aren’t making much progress.

The Vikings, according to the source, have offered Rudolph a five-year extension, which would give Rudolph a new-money average among the highest paid tight ends in the league. That extension also would, presumably, reduce Rudolph’s current cap number of $7.625 million.

The source adds that the Vikings have not asked Rudolph to take a pay cut in 2018, the final year of his current deal.

It remains unclear how this one will be resolved. The mood around Rudolph definitely changed when the team made Irv Smith a second-round pick last month, and the chatter started with trade talk and continued with a standoff over Rudolph’s pay.

The truth appears to be that the Vikings want to keep Rudolph, but also that they want to reduce his cap charge in 2019. This gives Rudolph leverage, which has empowered him to reject the offers that the Vikings have made.

51 responses to “Kyle Rudolph, Vikings are talking extension, but not making much progress

  1. But but but…we’ve been told as nauseum that all Vikings players would take a pay cut to play there, and every other player dreams of playing for them, and that the Vikings have the best team every year, it’s just the refs and injuries that have derailed them. Every year. For nearly 60 years.

    I just can’t. Lol

  2. awwwwww how cute, the Vikings are trying to make us all believe they want to re-sign a 30 year old (this yr) TE.

    LOL

    Like when your kid comes in the room with Cheetos all over their face and says they didnt eat any chips.

  3. Your unnamed source — or more likely his/her source — is forcing the question to Rudolph.

    Money or team?

    That’s the NFL now.

    Owners own, players play.

    Or not if you’re Le’Veon.

  4. I hope they can get this extension done.
    I’m personally thrilled that the mighty Vikes are locking up all of their 8-7-1 talent (1-6 against .500 or better teams) for the foreseeable future, as they keep kicking the salary cap ramifications down the road.
    This has been a hilarious offseason watching them scramble around trying to resign all of their medium/Luke warm players.

    Maybe the Jets should just bat their eyes at Rudolph driving his asking price up even further.
    Everybody knows that Spieldope is stupid enough to pay it.

  5. He will not get 7.6 million per yr as a free agent anywhere. He needs to restructure. Unless he wants to be a FA. The Vikings are going to trade Waynes to the cards. They already have signed everyone they need to except the long snapper who’s working out his military obligations. The Vikings only need cap space for free agents they weren’t planning on signing anyway.

    Waynes would be the one to go, or Rhodes in a trade before Rudolph is cut.

  6. They want him because Irv has not proven anything yet. The devil you know is better than the devil you don’t know. We’ll now see how serious the Vikings are in keeping him. They’ve already spent everything they can afford. They can’t afford to be picky, but Rudolph can. If he keeps saying “no deal, pay me,” and remains on the roster……..watch how fast the faithful turn on him for turning down the “privilege.”

  7. Please God let this be a smoke screen to up his trade value. Rudolph is not worth top 15 TE money let alone highest paid TE. Get rid of him

  8. vikesfansteve says:
    May 17, 2019 at 7:14 am
    He will not get 7.6 million per yr as a free agent anywhere. He needs to restructure.

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    Perhaps he is willing to play for less for a team that actually has a chance at a SB

  9. If it’s not a pay cut then why wouldn’t he accept it if he wants to stay on the team. Some of the details out have seemed conflicting.

  10. Rudolph seems to be following the same path Adrian Peterson did. Demanding more money than he’s worth at a time when his production is beginning to trend downward. The Vikings would be wise to let Rudolph play out the contract this year and let him walk in free agency next year. We fans didn’t miss Peterson and we certainly won’t miss Rudolph.

  11. The Vikes will trade him to the team you root for … the cost will be amazingly low … then he will sign a cheap, team friendly contract. Uh huh.

  12. chillyball says:
    May 17, 2019 at 9:08 am
    Funny, Kyle has his best game ever in a Probowl getting passes from Aaron Rodgers.
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    Seriously? I get debating points and even good natured trash talk..but you aren’t seriously comparing real football to what happens in the pro bowl are you?

  13. chillyball says:
    May 17, 2019 at 9:08 am
    Funny, Kyle has his best game ever in a Probowl getting passes from Aaron Rodgers.

    Boy, wouldn’t that be hilarious chillyball?

    Too bad Rodgers didn’t play in that game.

  14. Brobokil says:
    May 17, 2019 at 9:24 am
    If it’s not a pay cut then why wouldn’t he accept it if he wants to stay on the team. Some of the details out have seemed conflicting.

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    This whole thing has been strange and makes me wonder how much of what we hear is actually true. It started way before the draft with Kyle saying he would love to sign an extension, but the team has reached out. Now he is saying that he won’t take a pay cut, maybe he doesn’t understand how extensions work. He is a TE with solid hands, ok routes, no YAC ability, and average to below average run blocking on a team that wants to run more and pass out of run sets. In his case there is a chance the guaranteed money goes up a little if the team is able to spread it over 5 years, but something has to give and my guess is they want cap relief this year and next. Would be fun to see him in this offense with Irv, but reality is Morgan is a better blocker and is sneaky about getting open, the biggest drop off would be the red zone target.

  15. spikeit2times says:
    May 17, 2019 at 9:41 am
    Rudolph seems to be following the same path Adrian Peterson did. Demanding more money than he’s worth at a time when his production is beginning to trend downward.
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    In his first 7 seasons with the Vikings, Rudolph averaged 46 catches for 450 yards and 5 TD’s. Last season he had 64 catches for 634 yards and 4 TD’s. What, exact, is “production trend downward” mean to you? I must know. Also, I keep posting that his salary is 9th in the league for TE’s and his production is averaging 7th best amongst TE’s. So if anybody can explain how he is overpaid or doesn’t deserve a new contract, I’d like to read that info as well.

  16. FlashPatterson says:
    May 17, 2019 at 8:01 am
    Still waiting on him to have his breakout season. He’s 29, when is he planning to do that?
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    What would you consider a “breakout season”? He’s not the best or 2nd best in the NFL. But he’s in the top 10, and he’s paid at that level. He’s consistent. And if a new contract makes him the 2nd or 3rd highest paid, people will scream. And then 2-3 years later he will be again paid at about the 7-8th highest. It’s the nature of the beast.

  17. stellarperformance says:
    May 17, 2019 at 7:48 am
    If he keeps saying “no deal, pay me,” and remains on the roster……..watch how fast the faithful turn on him for turning down the “privilege.”
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    This is actually really funny, because nobody turns on a former player or coach faster than the Packer “faithful”.

  18. vikesfansteve says:
    May 17, 2019 at 7:14 am
    He will not get 7.6 million per yr as a free agent anywhere.
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    I simply disagree. Kyle is paid 9th best in the NFL and is consistently in the top 6-7 productive TE’s. And that’s with how many QB’s over the years? With somebody like Brees he’d be top 2-3. Look at what GB paid out for a TE. Salary cap goes up every year. A consistently productive pass catching TE isn’t a dime a dozen, especially one that could be a red zone threat. So, what is your reasoning that he won’t be paid in free agency?

  19. Well he has this season to prove he is worth top dollars. As a Vikings fan I have seen him make some great catches, and I’ve seen them run out of bounds or drop to the turf at the slightest touch. I’ve seen great efforts, and lackadaisical efforts. I think most fans agree. We would love to see the great side of Rudolph more consistency. But after all these years, not too many people believe it’s going to happen. I like him as a player, I see him as a good player on average, but he’s got to cut out the low effort days and run through tackles. I don’t think he’ll do it. But Every coach has a big ego. They need it to survive. Somebody will think they can elevate him to play consistently at the top level, and they were overpaid approve it. It won’t to be us.

  20. ragnarthegreat says:
    May 17, 2019 at 11:04 am
    Somebody will think they can elevate him to play consistently at the top level, and they were overpaid approve it.
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    Rudolph consistently plays a top level, unless you want that top level to be the best or 2nd best in the NFL. You did describe some of his faults. Every player has them. You appear to want Rudolph to be the best TE in the game. That’s not him. It won’t be him. But he is paid consistently correct for his production.

  21. For Rudolph, it’s probably about the guaranteed money. If the Vikes extend him, lower his cap hit, then cut him in 2 yrs when Smith develops, he’s a 32 yr old FA. That’s obviously a bad deal for him.

  22. Waffles says

    I’m personally thrilled that the mighty Vikes are locking up all of their 8-7-1 talent (1-6 against .500 or better teams) for the foreseeable future, as they keep kicking the salary cap ramifications down the road.
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    This from a fan of a team that just gave an aging, injury prone QB a new deal (with 2 years left on his previous contract) that actually had the Packers PAY Rodgers $80 million in the last 12 months. What makes it worse is the Packers still owe Rodgers more guaranteed money.

    All this money for a QB who has 27 wins in his last 54 starts.

  23. It looks like the Vikings are going to let Rudolph slowly come to the realization that he isn’t going to play in 2019 under his current contract. There isn’t a team out there that will pay him that contract, which is why a trade hasn’t happened and isn’t going to happen.

    I hate to see Rudolph resist a redo on his contract. He says he wants to stay, but knows he’s gone if he insists on standing firm on his contract.

  24. cellarperformance says

    The devil you know is better than the devil you don’t know.
    ###

    As you are a fan of the Packers, I find this comment interesting.

    The Packers have been experimenting with veteran TE’s since Finley left 6 or 7 years ago.

    Graham, Bennett, Cook…

    Graham is in year 2 of a 3 year deal that ends with him being 34.

    He was almost invisible last year, the Packers drafted another TE and the Packers just gave Graham a $5 mil roster bonus. Graham has a $12.6 mil cap hit this year.

    Rudolph is only 29 and is in his last year of his contract. Without an extension his cap hit is $5 mil under Graham’s, yet he was more productive last season.

    If the Vikings extend him (and I think they will) he will finish his career at about the same age as Graham. This assumes the Packers don’t cut the devil they know.

  25. Not a complete player. Very good receiver but his game has holes, can’t run after the catch, can’t block, no moves, disappears at times. He deserves a decent contract, but it needs to be team friendly. In a year he will not be a top 10 TE and he needs to understand that now.

  26. I have to laugh when Rudolph gets criticized for going out of bounds after a catch or goes down after first contact. TEs aren’t RBs, they’re pass catchers and/or blockers.
    Few TEs are like John Riggins or Franco Harris who took pleasure in plowing under DBs and LBs.
    I have no problem with a TE catching the ball, getting his yards, and not getting blown up unnecessarily. I want a regular contributor, not a guy on the disabled list or IR.

  27. Rudolph is only 29 and is in his last year of his contract. Without an extension his cap hit is $5 mil under Graham’s, yet he was more productive last season.

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    Really? How so? Most people would say they were about equal. And Rudolph had the advantage of playing for the Vikings for how many years?

    Graham’s first season in Seattle looked a lot like his first season here. Then, in his second season, he had numbers that Rudolph has never gotten close to.

    Whoopsie!

  28. Can’t they sell off a couple of there off season championship trophy’s in order to pay him.

  29. Maybe they can raise some money by selling more “spirit bricks” for placement in the sidewalk in front of US Bank. There’s lots and lots of room for more. Lots.

  30. John Riggins was a full back not a tight end. And tight ends should outweigh cornerbacks and safeties by at least 60 pounds. I think they can break a tackle without going on injured reserve. Gronk sure could.

  31. Here is why I think Graham will have a great season, because I believe the same thing.

    ‘The big thing is, is every free agent I ever had, in 25 or 26 years or however many years I’ve been coaching, they’ve always played better the second year. They have to learn where everything is, they have to find a place to live.”

    -Mike Zimmer

  32. Hmm, I thought the Viking’s hands were tied and would have trouble doing any more deals. Looks like a certain cheese loving fan base that posts on here doesn’t understand football very well.

  33. cheeseisfattening says:
    May 17, 2019 at 6:50 pm
    Hmm, I thought the Viking’s hands were tied and would have trouble doing any more deals. Looks like a certain cheese loving fan base that posts on here doesn’t understand football very well.

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    They haven’t done this deal yet. They’re having trouble making progress.

    I mean…that’s literally the title of the article.

  34. ragnarthegreat says:
    May 17, 2019 at 5:43 pm

    John Riggins was a full back not a tight end. And tight ends should outweigh cornerbacks and safeties by at least 60 pounds. I think they can break a tackle without going on injured reserve. Gronk sure could.

    I know he was a FB. I was making the point that TEs are not like RBs. Yeah, TEs are big guys, but their role is catching passes and blocking. Of course there are exceptions like Gronk. Most TEs don’t fit that pattern.

  35. I couldn’t care less they sign this guy or not. The stress tax and drama is enough to make me smile. They’re such a well-oiled machine.

  36. Wafflestomp says:
    May 17, 2019 at 7:04 am

    I hope they can get this extension done.
    I’m personally thrilled that the mighty Vikes are locking up all of their 8-7-1 talent (1-6 against .500 or better teams) for the foreseeable future, as they keep kicking the salary cap ramifications down the road.

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    8-7-1 sure beats the 6-9-1 your Packers stumbled to.

    You also only beat one team with a winning record.

    You lost at home to the worst team in football (Arizona).

    Though you finished in third place, you were 0-2 against the fourth place team (Lions) and were outscored 62-23 by them, including 31-0 in the last game of the season. Only three missed field goals by Daniel Carlson kept you out of last place. (If there is a silver linking to Carlson’s performance that day, it kept the Packers out of a last-place cakewalk schedule in 2019.)

    As for the salary cap, despite having two more years on his contract, 34-year-old Aaron Rodgers was granted a long-term, $134 million dollar contract with $98 million guaranteed over five years. Yahoo Sports said this of Rodgers’ performance in 2018: “If we add up every quarterback’s interceptions, incompletions, sacks and fumbles and compile them all into one stat we’ll call ‘bad plays,’ Rodgers is actually the worst in the NFL.”

    The Vikings no doubt had a disappointing year. But their year was far better than yours, their talent is far better, and their salary cap pressures are short-term. Yours will be with you for the next four years.

  37. Purple is for Pansies says:
    May 17, 2019 at 12:40 pm

    Really? How so? Most people would say they were about equal. And Rudolph had the advantage of playing for the Vikings for how many years?

    Graham’s first season in Seattle looked a lot like his first season here. Then, in his second season, he had numbers that Rudolph has never gotten close to.

    Whoopsie!

    ———————

    In his second season he had less targets, less receptions, and less touchdowns than Rudolph had that year

    Whoopsie!

  38. They’re just trying to create a market for him. They drafted an inexpensive replacement and clearly want to move him out.

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