Union wants players to prepare for a full-season work stoppage

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Good news really travels fast.

The item from the New York Times that painted a rosy picture regarding talks on a new collective bargaining agreement sparked a reaction from the NFL Players Association, aimed at keeping everyone from adopting a posture of acceptance that a new deal will be done — a posture that could result in weakness at the bargaining table.

Liz Mullen of SportsBusiness Daily reports that, on Tuesday morning, NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith sent an email to all agents containing advice they should give to their clients.

“With a possible work stoppage less than two years away, this is the opportune time to set up a structured and organized savings and budgeting plan with your clients,” Smith wrote to the agents, via Mullen. “I can’t stress enough the importance of having our player members in a sound financial situation should a work stoppage occur. We are advising players to plan for a work stoppage of at least a year in length. We are also encouraging all players to save 50% of their salary and bonuses and to save the entirety of their Performance Based Pay amounts they should earn over the next two regular seasons.”

That will be useful advice for the players who are employed by NFL teams in 2019 and 2020. A large percentage of the 2021 work force, however, remains in college, earning nothing that could be saved for later.

Which makes the fact that the NFL’s free farm system relies on free labor an incidental benefit to the league. New players and young players who haven’t made enough money to save enough money to get through a year without paychecks will be far less inclined to go along with a work stoppage.

Plenty of those players with little or no money and a tremendous desire to simply play football will become prime candidates to accept work as replacement players, if the players muster the will to launch a strike.

That said, Smith’s email hardly means that a potential work stoppage is likely. He needs to ensure that all agents and players remain vigilant regarding a potential work stoppage in order to ensure that the players don’t get steamrolled by owners who definitely will be vigilant regarding a potential work stoppage.

At a minimum, the need for vigilance may eventually compel the NFLPA to do something aimed at countering the perception that talks are going well. If it seems they’re going too well, it means that someone may be getting too good of a deal.

105 responses to “Union wants players to prepare for a full-season work stoppage

  1. INSANITY when the average CAREER is only 3 seasons.

    The WORST players’ union in all of sports is the NFLPA because it has always had the least qualified leadership. Some things never change.

  2. Anyone NFL player with a year’s salary already paid should be able to have saved a substantial sum, more than the average Joe would make in 5 years. This constant sob story of their having to live hand-to-mouth is tiresome.

  3. Get ahead of it early and make it count this time. As a fan, I have no issue with this at all.

    Anything to get rid of corrupt Goodell and make the cheating owners pay.

  4. Me and my 10 season tickets will not come back if there’s a season-long strike. It will then be time to buy a boat and relax. They won’t miss me, I understand that, but neither will I miss them.

  5. With the exceptional earning power these guys have, I would have hoped they were doing this anyways.

    If not they should watch 30 for 30’s Broke. They should also fire their financial manager.

  6. Most players on NFL rosters make a fraction of what the stars make, and they’re the ones who will end up having their jobs given to someone else. The fans love football, their teams, and the players, in that order. If the players decide to take away our football, we’ll side with the owners and have no pity for the players. The players have the worst union in the world. They lose every battle. If a coach lost every game, he’d get fired. Why do the players pay these guys to misrepresent them? The union is a laughing stock. The NFL will sign hungry AAF and XFL players, and many will keep their jobs when the other players come back with their tails between their legs. Don’t listen to the union that loses all the time. The owners have deep pockets.

  7. When the baseball players went on strike in 1994, I never went back. Haven’t watched a game since.

    If the NFL players strike, I will be done.

    Period.

  8. Don’t do it. Most popular or not, fans will not put up with a work stoppage. MLB almost did that again in 2004. It would have been the death nail to that sport.

  9. What the hell else are they supposed to say? “Yeah, we’re looking at one, maybe two weekends, so make your reservations in Palm Springs, bring some extra underwear, and we’ll be back at work in week three when the owners cave.”

  10. You can strike, that is your right, but when you come back it will not be the same. You will lose many of us.

  11. The players should have no more than three simple negotiation points, one of them has to be a fair share of the gambling money that is coming. If they open too many front lines of battle they will get demolished as usual.

    MLB and NHL had cancelled seasons and everyone is making more money in those sports than ever.

  12. You’re kidding right? These players won’t save money. Too interested in NFLer favorite past times of making it rain or driving a Bentley.
    I would love to think they could be responsible and save a few bucks but how many times have we seen stories of retired guys filing for bankruptcy? They story never changes. D Smith can chirp all he wants but he’ll cave again when the time comes.

  13. Yep,
    Better salt away a few million for a “rainy day”. I bet DeMaurice has a few bucks under the mattress and will continue to stash more, while his constituents are on the picket line.
    Here’s some more advice…Remember players, the only one with a functioning umbrella is your “fearless leader” (nothing to fear, if you have no skin in the game).

  14. razzlejag says:
    May 28, 2019 at 3:39 pm
    Me and my 10 season tickets will not come back if there’s a season-long strike. It will then be time to buy a boat and relax. They won’t miss me, I understand that, but neither will I miss them.

    34 10 Rate This

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    You are the perfect threat to the owners’ and their amazing greed the last 10 years.

    I hope 10,000 more come in here and post the same comments.

    Fans are sick and tired of both sides going back and forth, but the owners are the ones who are so greedy, they’ve abused their powers the last 10 years.

    We can make a list of topics, probably 10 deep, that have been completely botched by Goodell.

  15. Would it really take ALL players going on strike to gain the upper hand at the negotiating table? What if, for example, 100 of the NFL’s best players prepared to sit out for a year?

  16. D Smith is so completely delusional if he thinks the rank and file players will forego a year of salary in order to benefit the superstars of the league. He and the NFLPA are without a doubt the most inept pro sports union.

  17. I was around when the union did this 30+ years ago. The comments above are nearly carbon copy to the comments then.
    Here’s what happened: the owners caved, the angry fans came back in larger numbers and the NFL became the monster organization it is today.

    This is just posturing by the players union. They know where their bread is buttered. It comes from the folks who watch it, you and me.

    When a player is making $30 million a year, is part owner of a basketball franchise, can he(as in the case of Aaron Rodgers) claim to be abused by management?

    Even the scrubs today make more money than most fans make in a year.

    Bring on the insanity of the XFL to bring some sanity to the NFL.

    One thing about getting old: you have some perspective.

  18. Football and Hockey are the two sports that need guarantee cash for players Basketball and Baseball with minimal contact should never have guarantee monies Both are practically unwatchable. Qb’s make too much and it should go to flag since the concussions are killing the sport

  19. Yeah, you know what? DeMaurice Smith is giving excellent advice. And I suppose we will have to let it play out before we can honestly assess his motives, but it would be foolish to not be at least a little sceptical. Throwing down with a strike just to make trouble and a name for yourself as a tough guy isn’t good stewardship, but given his public stance to date, I get those vibes.

  20. I hope the players are prepared to play hardball this time and get a better deal. You can easily replace all 32 owners with other millionaires, can’t say that about the players

  21. FOR AS MUCH AS THEY GET PAID ILL PLAY FOR LEAGUE MINIMUM GLADLY

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    That’s pretty ignorant. It’s not just about 1 year. The top players obviously could get by, but the league minimum players that make like 200k a year can’t make it more than a year at best with stoppage.

    This would be a great place though to test socialism lol. Those top players should be putting like 30% of their income into an account that people below say 5 million a year will get evenly dispersed if there is a stoppage. Bet they would all go for that.

  22. by prepare, they mean take out “lockout loans” at 21% interest…

    the bosses need a full season strike

  23. Guess who STILL gets paid during a strike?
    Union lawyers that’s who!
    Does De Smith and the NFLPA REALLY care about their clients? No, not at all. The NFLPA only cares that the players are legally obligated to pay union dues and that there is money to be made at CBA renegotiation time.
    Please spare us the pro-union rhetoric.

  24. tylawspick6 says:
    May 28, 2019 at 4:09 pm
    razzlejag says:
    May 28, 2019 at 3:39 pm
    Me and my 10 season tickets will not come back if there’s a season-long strike. It will then be time to buy a boat and relax. They won’t miss me, I understand that, but neither will I miss them.

    34 10 Rate This

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    You are the perfect threat to the owners’ and their amazing greed the last 10 years.

    I hope 10,000 more come in here and post the same comments.

    Fans are sick and tired of both sides going back and forth, but the owners are the ones who are so greedy, they’ve abused their powers the last 10 years.

    We can make a list of topics, probably 10 deep, that have been completely botched by Goodell.

    +++++++++++++

    Ha. You think the owners are concerned with season ticket holders bailing out? You think they can’t sell those seats to someone else? How long do you think it will take? What about the stadiums already having seats unfilled, do they respective owners lay awake at night fretting about it?

    Dude, dig it. The money is in TV and soon to be gambling. Yes, the stadium nets some money but it’s not the main thing by any stretch. Even if it were, they won’t sweat you and and a few thousand other season ticket holders bailing. Inside of a year, they can sell those seats again.

  25. DeMaurice Smith is also the worst players rep in any major sport. He got worked so badly by the NFL the last time in terms of items given up so the PA could eliminate like 5 days of offseason practice. He’s posturing to show that he’s not totally incompetent, he’s going to screw this up for everybody.

  26. This is funny. Many players have low IQs. Owners have a built in advantage in that they are wealthy beyond belief and can afford to wait it out. The players cannot. They’d rather overspend on bling instead of save. And with such a short career life span they’d be fools to hold out for an entire season. Just like Leveon Bell being a fool last season.

  27. If somehow a work stoppage is avoided, and Goodell gets fired, that’s the best possible outcome, IMO.

  28. lets make one thing understood … when was the last time in any pro sport the fans filled the stands to watch the owners perform on the field of play ??? … make the negotiations fair, get dope completely out of there, extend the game rosters by three to four players and practise squad dudes too …. I mean the owners are all swimming in dough so how much really is enough and why must it be at the expense of the players and the game … because it they blow it again this time being probably the pinnacle of popularity across the various broadcasting medias it will be all downhill losing the kids who move on to something else and course to make up the cost for a year or more shutdown, up go the ticket prices hugely n biggly which are bad enuff already and how many older stars such as brady and the like will retire without getting a proper and well deserved send off.

  29. Savings plan: don’t spen all of the hundreds of thousands of millions of dollars you make in the next two years. There, that was easy.

  30. Most make millions and they can’t budget themselves???? That sums up the character of most players. Case closed.

  31. Unions are suppose to cover things while you strike, aren’t they? That’s what the dues are for. So over the next two years, crank up the dues so the 0th and 1st year players can get a stipend. They might have to live as mere mortals on 5K-10K a month, but the union should be able to scrap up 80*32 * 100K money. 80 players on the roster, 32 teams, 100K to live on.
    That’s ~250M. The union should have that sort of resources if it plans on striking. You want to fight with the big boys. Come in with a big gun.

  32. David Muehlhausen says:
    May 28, 2019 at 4:25 pm

    FOR AS MUCH AS THEY GET PAID ILL PLAY FOR LEAGUE MINIMUM GLADLY

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    That’s pretty ignorant. It’s not just about 1 year. The top players obviously could get by, but the league minimum players that make like 200k a year can’t make it more than a year at best with stoppage.

    This would be a great place though to test socialism lol. Those top players should be putting like 30% of their income into an account that people below say 5 million a year will get evenly dispersed if there is a stoppage. Bet they would all go for that.
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    League minimum for rookies this year is 495k. In two years that will be 525k, and 750k for 3yr vets… Ignorance is saying that it’s 200k. Ignorance is also subscribing to the idea that a man CANT make even 200k last for a year without work. Now will they make it last? I don’t know, but a man can live off of that.

  33. That will be useful advice for the players who are employed by NFL teams in 2019 and 2020. A large percentage of the 2021 work force, however, remains in college, earning nothing that could be saved for later.

    Which makes the fact that the NFL’s free farm system relies on free labor an incidental benefit to the league.
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    Just curious, do you get annoyed with law offices that use college system to cull new lawyers, or hospitals that pluck already educated nurses and doctors out of their “farm system”.
    No, the difference there is those people enter the workforce not only broke, but on the hook for tens of thousands in student loans.
    SMH.

  34. Leo M says:
    May 28, 2019 at 3:35 pm
    FOR AS MUCH AS THEY GET PAID ILL PLAY FOR LEAGUE MINIMUM GLADLY

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    I think most would play for their current salary. You give me my current salary I start tomorrow no questions asked, and guess what I’ll even show up to the “voluntary work outs” let me know where to sign.

  35. razzlejag says:
    May 28, 2019 at 3:39 pm
    Me and my 10 season tickets will not come back if there’s a season-long strike. It will then be time to buy a boat and relax. They won’t miss me, I understand that, but neither will I miss them.
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    The owners will resell your 10 season tickets in about 10 seconds You are fungible material to them.

  36. maxamili says:
    May 28, 2019 at 4:35 pm
    D Smith is literally the worse at his job. How he’s still in command is beyond me.

    1 1 Rate This

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    Have you seen Goodell?

    Smith is not the worst at all. This is like saying Obama caused the Great Recession in 2008 as he was coming into office.

    You Republican Millennials are so dumb. Sorry, but you are. You know little of the working world, hiding behind those racist cloaks.

  37. Demaurice Smith is the worst union head they’ve ever had. I predict he’ll get his arse handed to him AGAIN. His strategy last time was negotiate only money then sue…then he lost lawsuit after lawsuit and players didn’t get anything on important issues and weren’t prepared at all for a strike.

    This will all repeat itself again. It’s unfortunate for the players they have a poor union head for such an important negotiation.

  38. tylawspick6 says:
    May 28, 2019 at 4:55 pm

    Have you seen Goodell?

    Smith is not the worst at all. This is like saying Obama caused the Great Recession in 2008 as he was coming into office.

    You Republican Millennials are so dumb. Sorry, but you are. You know little of the working world, hiding behind those racist cloaks.
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    No bigger racists than leftists as they see everyone and everything through the lens of race which is quite disheartening. Obama was the ONLY President in the long history of the US to never have a year of 3 percent economic growth and the NFLPA is the worst-run player union (examples proving such are well-known to all football fans and too numerous to list) and with both their failures are because of policy and strategy choices that have nothing to do with their race. Please stop being “dumb” and ‘hiding behind your racist cloak.”

  39. The top players obviously could get by, but the league minimum players that make like 200k a year can’t make it more than a year at best with stoppage.

    The league minimum is $480,000. That’s almost 8x the median HOUSEHOLD income in America, which is just over $61,000. Nobody in the NFL with 1+ years on an active roster should have any issue getting by for a year.

  40. Should be some good draft classes coming up. All the eligible underclassmen will declare, so that they won’t be stuck during a potential work stoppage. Then the potential work stoppage draft year will be thin. Smart teams will plan accordingly to maximize picks during the good draft year(s).

  41. 1) revenue sharing for players, not just for teams
    2) 60 man rosters
    3) Get rid of franchise tag, but give teams a 20% cap discount to re-sign their own players
    4) Legal Marijuana/CBD

  42. Love the “If there’s a strike, I’ll never watch again!” comments.

    You care enough to get mad over just the vague notion of a stoppage and are reading contract articles..in May. You’re hooked and will be back the first game. Stop being delugional.

  43. Fans are so fickled. They hate Goodell. Then they hate the owners. And then they say the players and the union is stupid because they keep losing these fights. But on the flip side will say, hey players, don’t complain, you make a bunch of money and you should’ve negotiated harder and you knew what you were getting into with the head injuries.You guys are silly. If you don’t like whats happening don’t watch it. Find something else to do with your lives. i wish for once these players would stick it to Goodell and these owners. The average career is a 3 year endeavor on a 10 billion dollar a year business? I am all for a work stoppage. Its free enterprise system? Less than 10% of the players in the league makes all the money. If the stars strike there is no NFL even if the rest of the players cross the picket lines. Strike, strike, strike!!!!

  44. Savings should be a part of who everyone is financially….reality is most people don’t save…no 401k no roth ira….no savings at all.
    For the most part people are financially dumb. As for professional athletes 92% end up bankrupt within 5 years of their career ending….yes 92%

  45. Im sorry but with 5th and 6th string players maken 4-500k and year, and the average mid card so to speak at 2-4 mill a year, i think they are fine. Ppl live on 25k a year, they can live with that.

  46. Smith may not be a good union rep, but the advice to save and plan ahead makes sense whether there’s a lockout or strike or not. Not sure this is news, but simply regurgitation of something every union rep has told every union member prior to contract negotiations.

  47. I really don’t understand some of you. None of you bailed when the owners locked the players out, but if the players strike you’re going to leave the sport forever. Are you mouthing off just for the sake of mouthing off or is there a legitimate reason why an owner created work stoppage is acceptable but not a player led stoppage?

    Work stoppage is the biggest leverage point the players have. Preparing for it now is best way to maximize that leverage. I think both sides understand that a work stoppage hurts the sport (access drives popularity which drives revenue), so hopefully this is just posturing.

  48. Love the “If there’s a strike, I’ll never watch again!” comments.

    I said this in 1978 when the Buffalo Braves owner John Y. Brown screwed the fans and moved the team. I haven’t watched an NBA game since.

    When a player was asked ” What about the fans and no World Series ? in 1994 and he responded, “We don’t care about the fans, we want our money” I stopped caring about them.
    I said this in 1994 when baseball went on strike and I have not watched another game.

    I haven’t said this about Football ( and won’t ), but some people mean it when they say it.

  49. Good riddance to anyone willing to sit out, I completely fine with the XFL and NFL replacements.

  50. For all of the whining these players and D Smith do let’s remind everyone who was leading the negotiations the last time the players signed the CBA.. yeah thats right it was D Smith

  51. It’s in everyone’s best interest to avoid a work stoppage. The NFL is making more money than ever and the salary cap keeps going up as a result. Don’t make that pie smaller squabbling over whether one side gets 48 vs 49 percent of it.

  52. charger383 says:

    NFLPU makes workingman’s unions look bad
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    They are bad. Unions need to be eradicated from every non-communist society.

  53. You know that they could probably go get regular jobs like they are going to have to do after they are out of football.

  54. Not a Big Labor guy myself, but in fairness to Smith, his only real weapon, like that of all unions, is the threat of a total work stoppage. If a majority of members won’t vote to strike because of fiscal idiocy, Smith’s got nuthin, and the owners will know it.

  55. They really shouldn’t use the word union. That’s for working people. Not rich, entitled athletes. They make a mockery of it trying to invoke memories of exploited working poor.

  56. I was in college a few years ago when the teachers were on strike. Im a teacher now…I don’t recall them paying me to be a teacher when I was in college. So, your point about college football players still being in college and being a free farm system is pointless.

  57. Man, if only there were a way to figure out how to hire the majority of the guys on this post. I’d be a millionaire in no time paying a docile workforce that knows their place. It seems I wouldn’t have to worry about most of you questioning that you get a small fraction of the revenue generated by your own labor. A sucker born every second indeed.

  58. Leo M says:
    May 28, 2019 at 3:35 pm
    FOR AS MUCH AS THEY GET PAID ILL PLAY FOR LEAGUE MINIMUM GLADLY
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    Really, well for as much as they get paid, many people would work for the min a CEO gets paid, or a Doctor, or an Astronaut, or a Rock Star, etc. SO WHAT? If the replacement – at ANY highpaying profession, cant do what that professions highest level can do -its a ridiculous statement. Thats WHY the former NFL strike replacement (players) games got terrible ratings. In fact when their were replacement REFS on year the fans were starting to boycott!

    I’ll never know why Football fans always say these ridiculous things. But they’d never say it about most any other high skill profession. And NFL football’s success is STRICTLY BASED on the appeal to draw incredible viewership to ONLY the very best in the world (more than most other professions demand.) Its either jealousy, or a foolish sense of self worth, and moreso a foolish sense of product value.

  59. David Muehlhausen says:
    May 28, 2019 at 4:25 pm
    FOR AS MUCH AS THEY GET PAID ILL PLAY FOR LEAGUE MINIMUM GLADLY

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    That’s pretty ignorant. It’s not just about 1 year. The top players obviously could get by, but the league minimum players that make like 200k a year can’t make it more than a year at best with stoppage.

    This would be a great place though to test socialism lol. Those top players should be putting like 30% of their income into an account that people below say 5 million a year will get evenly dispersed if there is a stoppage. Bet they would all go for that.

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    No, not ignorant at all. If a minimum wage player can’t survive on
    $200k/year then why do we expect middle and low income households to live on only 10%-50% of that? Oh yea, that’s right. We live within our means. Not our fault a player feels like he should live like a baller and make it rain. We don’t feel bad for actors and singers going from job to job, trying to make it big so why should we feel bad for NFL players or rookies. They took the risk and hopefully there’ll be big returns. If not, that’s a perfect example of why they should’ve finished college (with a worthwhile degree).

  60. Michael E says:

    They are bad. Unions need to be eradicated from every non-communist society.
    ______________________________________________________________

    40 hour work weeks, overtime pay, benefits packages, retirement packages, safety regulation, disability insurance, competitive wages, and more are all results of labor unions. The high standard of living in the US is a direct result of labor unions demanding a proportionate share of revenue. When companies move overseas it’s not because labor unions are killing them but because the highest minimum wage in China is $3.47/hr. To compete everyone in the US would need to take a minimum 50% pay cut just to start.

  61. I’d be quite ok with $200k a year. I could survive a few years off of that. But I don’t need much in life so my priorities might be a bit different than these guys.

  62. That’s funny. I wouldn’t be surprised if most NFL players spend their money almost as fast as they make it. No way are the majority of them disciplined enough to save for the future. Think it’s crazy? Look at all the former NFL players, who had long careers, who are broke now. What do you think will happen to the guys with short careers? Do you think they are willing to waste a year of their career for a lockout? Things are going to get interesting.

  63. If the players and their union had any cahones they’d go all out scorched earth policy to get what they want. But you just know they don’t and won’t.

  64. The players must realize that no matter how much they save to get thru the work stoppage, the year off will represent one year less from their peak earning life span (average of just 3 years)

    Why not take the approach of negotiating in good faith and arriving at a deal? Why is it considered weak to work together?

  65. 2019 “league minimum” salary for the NFL:
    0 years of experience $495,000
    1 year $570,000
    2 years $645,000
    3 years $720,000
    4-6 years $805,000
    7-9 years $930,000
    10+ years $1,030,000

    John or Jane Average earning $75K would have to work over 6 1/2 years to get the same cash as a UDFA making his first roster. THAT is why fans side with the owners in many of these disputes – the players are paid quite well, even at the bottom rung of the ladder.

  66. Has there ever been a group of millionaires (players) that was represented by such incompetent people? The owners know the TV networks will still broadcast the games, and the sports books will still take bets. In other words, the owners could withstand a strike for eternity. Why would the players allow these buffoons to steal their money in return for absolutely nothing. This Smith character is stuck on dumb.

  67. I don’t know if I’m just hopeful or delirious but this just sounds like posturing to me. I’m all for the players making more guaranteed $, I don’t know enough about it to know what the key issues are going to be, I’m just assuming that’s going to be the big one that could lead to a strike. Both sides run the risk of destroying the league if a full year strike takes place. Just look at the NHL, it will never have been as popular as the NFL but the strike really did a number on the fan base, same for the MLB, just a lesser extent. I’m one of the few that remained loyal, just because I love hockey so much and unfortunately, I feel the same way about pro football but many fans will go and not come back. This is a dangerous game both sides are playing and I really hope both sides realize this at the end of the day, when that day comes. Please just put your greed aside for once, owners, just one damn time- that goes for both sides, mostly the owners but both sides need to be willing to compromise.

  68. It’s absolutely mind boggling to me that people here overwhelmingly side with the owners without question in this argument. The players union and representatives (and many players for that matter) are certainly flawed but the hate for the amount that players are making without questioning the exploitive practices and millions that the owners are making without doing a thing other than having the money to put down on a team, is really telling. I wonder how many would sing the same tune if ownership was doing the same thing in your workplace….

  69. I was around when the union did this 30+ years ago. The comments above are nearly carbon copy to the comments then.
    Here’s what happened: the owners caved…

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    Are you referring to the year when they had replacement players? The owners didn’t cave AT ALL. The union was destroyed when so many payers crossed the picket lines, especially a bunch of Cowboys (who still lost to the 100% replacement Redskins). In fact, the NFLPA has never made the owners “cave” and never will. Players last 3 or 4 years, but owners last forever.

  70. Its rare the union says something smart that the players should pay heed too. But sadly too many of them wont, and thats why the union is not able to effectively negotiate (assuming they could/would if ever given fair chance) against an opponent who can easily shrug off a work stoppage that would cripple so many players on the union side.

  71. Their careers are too short, and they know it. Can’t risk taking a year off, for the kind of money they will lose.

    “You take a loss of income, so the schmuck who comes after you has a posh deal!”

    5 Years is a good career, 10 is great; so please give up 10 to 20 percent of your income, for the good of the union!

  72. poopy17 says:
    May 29, 2019 at 2:38 am
    It’s absolutely mind boggling to me that people here overwhelmingly side with the owners without question in this argument. The players union and representatives (and many players for that matter) are certainly flawed but the hate for the amount that players are making without questioning the exploitive practices and millions that the owners are making without doing a thing other than having the money to put down on a team, is really telling. I wonder how many would sing the same tune if ownership was doing the same thing in your workplace….
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    It sounds to me like a lot of us out here actually love the players and are more upset that they have failed to put together a competent union that can get them what they deserve. How can you be for the players and stand behind the current NFLPA leadership? The fans love the players and always side with them, but there’s one exception. When they go on strike. You see, we actually love football, and when the players (who are millionaires) take that away from us (who are struggling to pay our bills), then we side with the owners. It’s pretty clear that’s what the majority think. Then there are those who just have bling hate for owners and billionaires. I’m not passing judgement, a lot of them seem like dirt bags. But this is all about watching football games on Sunday. We love to do that, so I guess everyone of us is just looking out for ourselves. We’re not happy with you if you’re the one who pulls the plug on our football. Get it? That’s not mind boggling at all. The NFLPA doesn’t seem to get it either, so if you talk to them, let them know. Owners are billionaires and they’re not used to being pushed around. Show them some respect and you might get somewhere. Trying the same thing over and over again and failing, is just ridiculous. Or get a new union boss. One that the owners will respect. I’m all for the players. They just have a bad union leader.

  73. The owners will resell your 10 season tickets in about 10 seconds You are fungible material to them.
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    Not so fast, he’s a Jags fan. He probably makes up 50% of season ticket holders there. Losing him would hurt.

  74. Until the players adopt a new model for their union they will forever be getting killed in these stoppages,strikes/lockouts. For the majority of owners their money comes from sources other than their nfl team. A work stoppage doesn’t really effect them the way some of you think it will. They certainly will feel it in their pockets by missing games but for most of them the nfl is a hobby. A way to hide money from the irs. Until they unite as a strong union they’ll never get what they ask for.

  75. “Until they unite as a strong union they’ll never get what they ask for.”

    Again, the problem is, this isn’t a 40 year and out program. These guys have a very finite window to earn as much as possible. Setting the next guy up with a sweet deal, at the expense of your family, isn’t appealing to most people.

  76. One of my schoolmates was a 1987 scab player for the Bills during the lockout. We grew up in a housing project. He made 50K, started a restaurant, employed his siblings and they are still successful today. I find it comical these guys can not manage 10s of millions especially after being told the lock out is 2 years away.

  77. @cletuspstillwaterjr says:
    May 29, 2019 at 10:09 am
    One of my schoolmates was a 1987 scab player for the Bills during the lockout. We grew up in a housing project. He made 50K, started a restaurant, employed his siblings and they are still successful today. I find it comical these guys can not manage 10s of millions especially after being told the lock out is 2 years away.
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    Average career is < 4 years. Average salary is < $2 million/year and after taxes and helping family members…poof, it's gone.

  78. Since a work stoppage over money by already millionaire players has been threatened it would be a sound threat by NFL fans to declare a strike of their own following a settlement of any strike by the players union, but this wont be only a one year fan strike but maybe permanent.where would these players go when the nfl dissolves for lack of interest and paying fans.the players are not the only ones who hold power over the nfl,fans money means just as much.football is a kids game,paying absorbitant prices by fans to watch it is a life decision.

  79. Fans only make up about a 1/4 of the ticket revenue generated by the nfl. The majority of season tickets and luxury box suites are corporate owned. The fans strike would not be felt as much as we’d hope it would. Sure they’d lose money from concessions and merchandise but not enough to scare them into doing anything drastic. We as fans are delusional if we think we actually make a difference because we don’t. I said in an earlier post that most owners are multi millionaires from other businesses and the money the clear from the teams is nice but not as meaningful as we’d like to believe. They’d be just fine without us is what I’m saying.

  80. It’s kind of difficult to feel sympathy for millionaires crying the blues over alleged mistreatment by their billionaire employers – especially when it is to the point where the average Joe who funds this goldmine can hardly afford to take his kids to a game.

    A strike may give this league a much needed reality check.

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