Six years, $154.7 million for Carson Wentz

AP

The details have begun to emerge for the new Carson Wentz contract. As usual, however, the full and accurate details won’t be known until the full contract can be scrutinized.

Per multiple reports, Wentz’s four-year extension has a base value of $128 million. Because, however, there are no actual contract extensions but only new contracts written and executed from scratch, Wentz now has a six-year deal, with a base value of $154.7 million. (The extra $26.7 million comes from the $4 million in base pay that Wentz will earn in 2019, plus the $22.7 million option-year salary he would have earned in 2020.)

Those numbers create a new-money average of $32 million, and a total value at signing of $25.7 million.

Under the new-money metric, Wentz landed behind only Russell Wilson ($35 million), Ben Roethlisberger ($34 million), and Aaron Rodgers ($32.5 million). Based on total value at signing, however, Wentz lands behind the likes of Kirk Cousins ($28 million) and Jimmy Garoppolo ($27.5 million).

The guarantees reportedly exceed $100 million. But the initial reports always blur the line between true guarantee and injury guarantee, with reporters pushing the higher (and inaccurate) number as the quid pro quo for getting the info before it’s available via others sources, like the NFLPA database. The full picture as to the Wentz guarantees won’t be known, probably for at least a few days.

In the end, it can be characterized as a win-win deal, at least for now. As the salary cap climbs (based on a new CBA, new TV deals, and the still-vague impacts of gambling on total revenue), Wentz’s deal could quickly become obsolete, but he’ll remain bound to the team through 2024.

That said, the new-money average becomes impressive in light of the fact that Wentz has suffered in two consecutive Decembers season-ending injuries. The Eagles are taking a calculated risk, putting a large bird on the table before Wentz has proven that he can stay healthy long enough to kill, cook, and eat it.

While Wentz could have done better after 2019, he also could have done worse. And it’s one thing to rattle off what a player wants in the abstract; it’s quite another to say “no thanks” when the team makes an offer that the player as a practical matter can’t refuse.

112 responses to “Six years, $154.7 million for Carson Wentz

  1. I don’t understand why,He just isn’t that good ,and can’t stay healthy
    should have signed him with a lot of incentives instead of all the guaranteed money.

  2. 6/6/19: “That’s crazy money! He hasn’t proven a thing.”

    6/6/21: “Wow, that Wentz deal turned out to be a bargain — you see who just cashed in?”

    6/6/22 “Man, you hear Wentz is holding out for more money?”

  3. Good….now lets move on to the season with NO distractions…so….Time for Jenkins to come to work or be sent away to seek drama elsewhere. Here’s to hoping that gets worked out next- and he’s back, happy and not expecting to break the bank at the same time.

  4. I’m looking forward to seeing the structure of the deal. I’m guessing that $15 mil-ish in signing bonus money will be applied to this and next season’s salary cap.

  5. The guaranteed money is critical. A great player, great individual, but doesn’t exactly personify “durable” at this stage.

  6. 6 years is a very long time–he will be severely underpaid by year 6. Wentz must not be confident in his chances to continue injury-free.

  7. Seems like a fair compromise to me. Wentz gets his contract now, the Eagles pay below the top of the market for QB’s. 25.7 a year is a lot of money to be sure but with where the market has gone over the last couple of years that’s a bargain if he can stay healthy.

  8. Is it possible to read full contracts for any of these players? Does the NFLPA release those anywhere? I’m really interested to see a few.

  9. Read the article. Cap hell? Eagles are beating the cap continues to increase. At 32 mil a year, probs more like 28 plus. He is top 12 paid not top 5. If he can play and they win another Super Bowl or two, his next contract will be more 38 or 40 a year.

  10. This is the price of poker now gentlemen. It’s why I was never that upset about the Dak numbers that are being reported. Once the Lions and Raiders signed Stafford and Carr to $25mill+ the contracts were going to escalate from there. When Mahomes and Mayfield come up don’t be surprised if 30mill a year is a bargain. This is why owners have to escalate salaries gradually. Same thing happened in baseball when the Rangers gave A-Rod that stupid contract. Just the new business model now; sadly.

  11. Lot of dumb, salty-azz comments here by people who have never actually watched him play. Wentz got the Eagles HFA and is every bit as responsible for bringing the Eagles a Lombardi as Foles. He threw 21TDs to only 7ints with a stress fracture in his back.

  12. I’m never going to be able to afford to go to another chiefs game in a couple of years…

  13. So lets see how that compares to Russell Wilson
    Wilson: One ring and two SB’s. Never missed a start. Always compete. Trophy Wife.
    Carson: None of the above…
    I think the Seahawks got one great deal this summer with Russell’s new contract.

  14. Unreal. But now as a Giants fan Im supposed to feel bad for him if he rips up his knee and say “what a shame, I hate seeing that happen to any player?”

    Or I am allowed to say what I really feel?

  15. Why pay him? What has he done to justify that payday? Nothing. The guy they let walk has done more for that sorry franchise than anyone in the last 60 years. They will suffer for this.

  16. Howie roseman is the dumbest gm in sports first he gets rid of foles who won tons of playoff games and then signs the most outrageous contract ever to a loser with zero playoff wins

  17. It’s fair to call him brittle but you’re a clueless hater if you’re calling Wentz overrated. In 40 games Wentz has 70 TDs, 29 INTs, 10,152 YDs, 63.7 CMP% a 92 RTG (over 100 each of the last two seasons) and a 23-17 record. He’s a stud.

  18. And somehow Xavien Howard was hoodwinked by the Dolphins into taking less than he could have gotten if he waited two more years? Differing standards?

  19. Nick Foles must be thinking they gave that much money to the guy that didn’t even win the franchise’s first and only Super Bowl.

  20. So much hate. So many jealous losers. Go whine about your own team you bums. Go Birds!

  21. The idea behind many of these QB deals is to lock up their guys in anticipation of a coming boom in QB salaries when then new TV deals come in, and the new CBA is signed, in a couple of years. So, if Wentz can rebound from his injury bug, it could be a bargain by 2021.

    That said, remind me: when was the last time a big-money QB won a Super Bowl?

  22. Haters gonna hate.
    Carson is a very good QB who has had some injury misfortune. I expect him to be dominant again in 2019. What will all of the closest geniuses on this site have to complain about then?
    That is all.

  23. This is probably a good deal for the team, with the risk vs reward in their favor. Have to wait and see the contract structure to know but they can probably escape in 2 years if need be and move on. But if Wentz lives up to expectations, they will have done quite nicely for themselves. Wentz had to know his history made him risky.

  24. Russell Wilson has never missed a start in his much longer career and has been to two Super Bowls winning one of them.

    Wentz has missed many starts in his short career and his backup won the Super bowl MVP…

    They don’t seem similar other than money.

  25. Oh my goodness. I am an Eagles fan of 39 years. Carson has done exactly what to earn this deal? This deal is such high-risk and will strap the organization for years to come. The knee, the back, no playoff experience because of the aforementioned, and a 6-15 record against teams over .500 are serious issues. I have yet to see him win a nail-biter, but I did see him get smoked in New Orleans last year, 48-7. He fell behind in that game, and that was it.

    So, the Eagles could have kept Nick Foles for less than the Jags gave him, and gotten some seriously high draft picks in a trade for Wentz. The Eagles could have kept the battle-tested diesel pickup truck that beat Tom Brady on the biggest stage for the franchise’s first Lombardi, but they decided to keep the Ferrari that has been involved in two serious accidents.

    I digress.

  26. Laughable comments: “Bust” “Overrated” Same QB who would have been the MVP if not hurt in week 13 in 2017. Such ignorance. Wentz wins a SB and quiets the ignorance.

  27. At some point, the value of franchise QB’s will not equate to the dollars they are getting paid. We’re probably at that point already, but with each QB one-upping the next, it’s going to be extremely hard for teams to sustain long term success. Great drafts will be the key (and if the team is maintaining success, that means drafting in the lower end of each round consistently – barring trades). One player eating 15-20% your cap space, insanity.

    Seems to be paving the way for good running teams combined with great defense, guided by young/cheap/competent QB’s on rookie deals. Or, if you snag a great young QB with those pieces in place, even better. Will be interesting to see how this plays out (and we’ve already seen some it to an extent with Flacco/Ryan).

  28. Don’t hate, it’s the correct salary for a QB of his skill set and it’s current market value. Get that through your thick heads already.

  29. Given the increasing going rate for QBs in the league, this really isn’t shocking. His past injuries can’t be ignored, but he’s young and I don’t the Eagles doctors have concluded that he’s a Band-Aid. Considering his skills and abilities the fact that he was the frontrunner for the 2017 MVP and he was arguably one of the biggest factors that led to the Eagles clinching home playoff advantage for their Super Bowl run, I don’t think this is a bad deal for the Eagles or Wentz.

  30. He’d better perform in the playoffs like Nick Foles or this will be considered a failure…

  31. Dumb move. No need to do it now. Had him under contract through 2021. Guy hasn’t played in December the past 2 seasons. Should have waited to see if he can play 16 games this year, then do the deal. But, you’ve got an insecure QB whose own coach said publicly a few months ago that he needs to be a better teammate AND the GM traded a boatload of picks 3 years ago to get him. Recommend you all tune into a Philly radio station once he gets dinged this year. Half the fan base already wanted Foles to stay. Should be entertaining!!!

  32. This is a very good deal for the Eagles. In two years this will look like a huge bargain

  33. I hope that number includes a huge premium payment for health insurance. Like maybe $50MM per knee?? Otherwise, whomever approved that contract should have their own medical (mental) evaluation.

  34. Lotta armchair GMs here. You might not like Wentz or Philly, but when there are only thirty some guys who can throw the football at this level and you have a guy like Wentz with the ceiling he has, you sign him. Injuries will always be a risk, and with some more than others, but you don’t let a guy like that walk. Otherwise, someone else will give him that money.

  35. This is Howie’s mastery at its best.
    He beat the Rams at the punch on Goff’s contract and beat Dallas on Dak’s contract.
    This sets the tone for that class. Given that it is a four year extension puts him within the new rookie class contract talks of this year, where we drafted RB, WR talent. New talks will be on the cusp of the draftclass of 2018 contract’s and at the end of Fletch’s career (He will be 33).
    This sets up Philly nicely, contract wise, and also inks a franchise QB to a good deal. He is getting top 10 money and it is not breaking the bank.

  36. You guys need to worry about your own teams QB’s. Look at some of the names like Kirk Cousins ($28 million) and Jimmy Garoppolo ($27.5 million). Gee I would really eat Sheli Manning who curls up in a ball when he has to play the Eagles. Or who is the Redskins QB anyway? Big Ben is a cancer as a leader and hasn’t won in years.Hasn’t Rodgers missed a ton games the last few years. I appreciate what Nick Foles dis but even he would tell you you how much more talented Carson Wentz is. The man is a flat out stud and he will show it once the games start.

  37. The Eagles have double downed! No doubt the talent is there, concerning Wentz, but can he stay on the field and fully recover from injury? If he can’t return to form, this team is heading no where for years to come.

  38. Wentz’s deal is essentially 25.6 million per year, over 6 years. A new CBA is in the works and new TV deals will be coming due before the completion of Carson’s contract. Wentz’s deal will look like an absolute steal in 2 years, when his original rookie contract was scheduled to end…

  39. Most of you have no idea what you’re talking about. Fact of the matter is Carson blew out his knee in Dec 2017, and that injury takes a year to fully recover (it wasn’t just his ACL). Except Carson was playing football in Sept 2018? He was never healthy, and rushed himself back, but he should have missed the entire year. Brady missed an entire year with a blown out knee and no one called him glass. The DIFFERENCE was he got hurt week 1 and Carson got hurt week 14. Brady got his full year to recover, but Carson didn’t and it’s getting held against him. Brady missed 15 games with his knee, Carson missed 13. Carson played all 16 games his rookie year, and got hurt in his second year. The back thing last year was a smoke screen. If his knee had been ok, I guarantee his back would not have kept him out of games. But with the knee not right and with Foles waiting in the wings, it didn’t make sense to play Carson. The Eagles SHOULD have used that mindset all year and no one would have blamed them. Letting Carson play in 2018 was a mistake, paying him an extra 3 million that he would have made in 2020 was not.

  40. As for all the wanna be GM’s who think they know how to manage the cap… Carson’s money per year is less than Jimmy G or Cousins. Howie is a cap guru, few if any manage it better than he. I have zero doubt that in this regard the Eagles will be just fine. They went from one of the worst cap positions and being under water to start the offseason to having over 25 million in space before this deal. All while picking up Djax, Brown, Malik Jackson, Vinny Curry, and signing all their draft picks. Methinks you all should worry more about your own jobs and let the experts handle the cap.

  41. socalbirdfan says:
    June 6, 2019 at 9:30 pm
    Had to do it. 2019 MVP.
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    Just stop already, Wentz will never see an MVP while Mahomes is in the league.

  42. Everyone is hating and talking about the few games that he missed, rather than his insane numbers when he is on the field. MVP Candidate in second year. Recovered from ACL and MCL in barely 9 months, and came in and threw for 3000+ yards and single digit interceptions for the second straight season with 70% completion percentage. everyone will be eating their words by SB54.

  43. As a Cowboys fan truly happy to Wentz get such a large deal. What a dumb move by the Eagles

  44. It’s a reasonable deal in today’s market. A bargain if he plays it out, a bad deal if he is actually an injury risk. He is a big guy and in college he could take any hit given him. He needs to change his playing style in the pros these guy a bigger better stronger faster, duh right, I know, but he has to change or he’ll always be hurt. Good Luck Kid, from a bird hater who likes good football.

  45. vikesfansteve says:
    June 7, 2019 at 8:57 am

    They wouldn’t have made or won the superbowl with Wentz.

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    Still bitter much?
    Wentz got us a first round bye in the regular season before he got hurt. In the playoffs, Foles had a terrible game against Atlanta. If it were not for our defense, we would not have won that game. Foles went to go on and completely blow out the vikes when their defense just completely fell apart. Our Defense had another great game and exposed the viks lack of offense.
    In the SB, Tom Brady picked apart our defense, because that is what he does. But their 32nd rank defense was exposed by our top 5 offense.
    Foles had one of the best games of his career in the SB and won the MVP.
    There is nothing saying that Wentz could not have put up the same or even better numbers on the patriots sorry excuse of the defense that year. Any fool can see that Wentz puts up better numbers and plays at a higher level than Foles.

  46. I think it’s a pretty fair deal, compared with Russell Wilson’s contract (who’s numbers are trending down), or say Garrapolo’s (which are completely mia).

  47. In 40 games Wentz has completed 64 percent of his passes with 70 touchdowns and 28 interceptions and a 92.5 passer rating.

    Wentz’s 70 touchdowns are sixth-most in NFL history by a quarterback in his first 40 games, and his 28 interceptions are tied for the fewest among those quarterbacks.

    His 10,152 passing yards are eighth-most by a quarterback in his first 40 games and his 64 percent completion percentage is 10th-best.

    Wentz is one of only 13 quarterbacks to post a passer rating of 100 or higher in consecutive seasons. He’s also one of only six QBs with consecutive seasons throwing 20 or more TDs and single-digit interceptions.

    His 102.0 passer rating since opening day 2017 is third-highest in the NFL among quarterbacks who’ve been starters both seasons, behind only Drew Brees (109.5) and Russell Wilson (102.1).

  48. Let me get this straight…

    Nitro: Wentz sucks and hasn’t earned this contract at all.

    Also Nitro: Wentz is great! Why didn’t we trade him for multiple “seriously high draft picks”

    If Wentz sucks and didn’t earn his contract, why would anyone trade multiple high picks for him only to have to pay him this contract?

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    nitro276 says:
    June 6, 2019 at 11:02 pm

    Oh my goodness. I am an Eagles fan of 39 years. Carson has done exactly what to earn this deal? This deal is such high-risk and will strap the organization for years to come. The knee, the back, no playoff experience because of the aforementioned, and a 6-15 record against teams over .500 are serious issues. I have yet to see him win a nail-biter, but I did see him get smoked in New Orleans last year, 48-7. He fell behind in that game, and that was it.

    So, the Eagles could have kept Nick Foles for less than the Jags gave him, and gotten some seriously high draft picks in a trade for Wentz. The Eagles could have kept the battle-tested diesel pickup truck that beat Tom Brady on the biggest stage for the franchise’s first Lombardi, but they decided to keep the Ferrari that has been involved in two serious accidents.

    I digress.

  49. Trending down? LOL 69 TD and 18 int over the past two years (including a career high 35 last year) and over 900 yards rushing.

  50. Good for Wentz. But the contract is too long, given his injury history.

    Look for Spielman and the Vikings to make a trade for him in the future.
    The Vikings love to get fleeced at the QB position.

  51. bigcid10 says: June 6, 2019 at 9:17 pm

    I don’t understand why,He just isn’t that good ,and can’t stay healthy
    should have signed him with a lot of incentives instead of all the guaranteed money.
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    LOL, why would Wentz or his agent sign such a dumb contract? Wentz has the upper hand here as the Eagles gave away their negotiating advantage when they got rid of Foles. Wentz is the only franchise QB left on the roster. Given the bust rate in getting a good/great QB in the draft, Wentz has the upper hand. He could play under a bunch of very expensive franchise tags and then leave ala Cousins. Not every franchise is as dumb as the Redskins.

  52. Great deal for the Eagles and Wentz! Wentz = 2019 MVP or close to it!

    But, the only concern I have with these high QB salaries is the salary cap has to come up or QBs will take an inordinate amount of a team’s overall cap.

  53. 0 playoff wins, injury prone, and highly overrated thanks to mobility. Well eagles fans you had a good run should have kept Foles and traded Wentz for picks to save money, but nope went with the stupid route.

  54. Risky contract as he is injury prone. Contracts like this though also stop franchises from signing other players. They better hope they hit gold in the draft the next couple of years.

  55. jshawaii22 says:
    June 6, 2019 at 9:54 pm
    I think the Seahawks got one great deal this summer with Russell’s new contract.
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    So does Baldwin and Chancellor

  56. As a Cowboys fan truly happy to Wentz get such a large deal. What a dumb move by the Eagles
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    We’ll be laughing a WHOLE lot louder when Jerrah gives Dak $35/year

  57. Yeah, that’s the ticket. Dump Nick Foles who took you to — AND WON — a Super Bowl. Then make injury-plagued Carson Wentz (who missed much of the last 2 seasons) the highest-paid QB in the NFL. To be technically correct, he has the highest guarantee ($107MM) of any QB, surpassing R Wilson’s deal with the ‘Hawks.

    @Anonymous on Yahoo Sports summed it up perfectly: It was also reported that Wentz strained his right ACL getting up from his chair after signing the contract extension.

    Wentz’s numbers are not that great. Neither are R Wilson’s. I don’t understand why these not-so-great QBs keep setting records w/ new contracts. Case in point: Matthew Stafford who I think was the highest-paid a couple of years ago. Did nothing to deserve that $$$$$.

  58. I don’t get the “can’t stay healthy” knock on him – he got his leg broken scoring a touchdown and taking a big hit – that’s football. More worrying would be his back, but whatever. I think he’ll be OK as long as he minimizes the hits he takes.

    I hope people understand that the crazy state of QB salaries has been caused by the franchise tag. Washington tagged Cousins twice, which put his “expected” salary into a much higher category than what would’ve been anticipated. His deal and Garropolo’s deal set the ball rolling. How many QBs said “Cousins got WHAT?!? I’m worth more than that!”

    The franchise tag isn’t liked by either side too much, but it’s the quickest way to set a player’s value much higher than teams wants to pay. It’s supposed to help teams keep their own home-grown players, but really it sets up bad blood between the players and management.

    Bell’s tag number for last year was big – $14 million plus – but the downside is it’s only a one year deal. So if a player gets injured in that tag year they can’t cash in on a big contract. It’s a bad deal all around.

  59. Brady missed an entire year with a blown out knee and no one called him glass. The DIFFERENCE was he got hurt week 1 and Carson got hurt week 14. Brady got his full year to recover, but Carson didn’t and it’s getting held against him.
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    Are you seriously comparing Wentz to Brady with regards to injuries? Wentz has missed more games in 2 seasons than Brady has in 17 seasons – let that sink in.

  60. nattination says:
    June 6, 2019 at 9:47 pm

    If he can play and they win another Super Bowl or two
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    He can’t, and they won’t.

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