Patriots will end 2010-2019 with the best record of any NFL team in any decade

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To say the Patriots are a dominant team is an understatement. In 2019 they’ll wrap up the most dominant decade in NFL history.

In the decade of 2010 to 2018, the Patriots are 129-37, a winning percentage of .777. As noted by Rene Bugner, New England could go 3-13 in 2019 and still have the best winning percentage of any NFL team in any decade.

The best record in any decade currently belongs to the Cowboys of the 1970s, who went 119-46. They’re followed closely by the Dolphins in the 1970s, who went 112-44-1. (These records include the postseason.)

After those two 1970s teams, the next-best record of any decade belongs to the Patriots from 2000 to 2009. They went 126-52 in that decade, and that includes a 5-13 record to start the decade before Drew Bledsoe got hurt and gave way to Tom Brady.

It’s been an incredible run for the Patriots since Brady became their starter, with two of the four most successful decades in NFL history. And perhaps a year from now we’ll start to talk about how far Brady can go into a third decade.

194 responses to “Patriots will end 2010-2019 with the best record of any NFL team in any decade

  1. Here come the AFCE yahoos. It’s time for even the haters to admit thus us the greatest dynasty of all time. There was no free agency for any of the other great dynasties, in any sport. The argument is over

  2. therealjr says:

    June 7, 2019 at 10:21 am

    Dolphins. Jets. Bills.

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    Too bad Brady era Pats winning pct against the rest of the NFL is almost identical to their record vs AFC East. And that is with having a 1st place out of division schedule almost every single year.

  3. Oh man, here we go again with the old ‘They only win that much because they play in a bad division.’

    Once again – their winning percentage against against the AFC East teams is almost exactly the same as it is against the rest of the NFL. I think it’s something like .768 vs .788.

    Come up with a new argument please.

  4. Peyton Manning had a free ride to 14-2 in his division every year. Expansion Texans, Jaguars, were both atrocious, and the Titans were mostly mediocre. The Jets, Bills, and Dolphins over the last 20 years were much better than those teams. The Jets made it to two AFC Championship games. The reason the AFC East is not that good is BECAUSE of the Pats.

  5. Brady’s winning pct:

    vs. NFL: .770

    vs. AFC: .771

    vs. NFC: .765

    vs. AFC East: .794

    If the AFC East really helped them that much, it would show up here. It doesn’t.

    vs. AFC East: .794

    If the AFC East really helped them that much, it would show up here. It doesn’t.

  6. Says more about the other three laughably abysmal franchises that make up the rest of the AFC East. All due to the Pats, but for bleeps sake… out of their league, should be literally, like soccer, relegate the clown shows to the minors, all three of them.

  7. I agree that the other three teams in their division being pansies this entire time, isn’t a great argument. It isn’t New England’s fault that the other AFC East teams can’t build good rosters, etc. At the same time, having no competition for the division and home field every year, you can’t argue that it works in their favor, because it absolutely does.

  8. There is NOTHING I enjoy more than reading the Patriots haters comments! You guys never disappoint. For the Patriots Fans who comment here defending the Patriots with logical arguments just relax, there is no need. Just enjoy the fact that your teams success drives the haters insane. It really is fun to watch

  9. therealjr says:
    June 7, 2019 at 10:21 am
    Dolphins. Jets. Bills.
    _______________________________________________

    Winning percentage in the AFCE, .778, winning percentage against the rest of the league, .776. Sorry to disappoint.

    Also all you “systems QB” guys. Bledsoe didn’t do so great in “the system” did he? Oh and Kassell, well he had the same team that was 19-1 the year prior and had the easiest schedule possible and only won 11 games missing the playoffs. If Brady hadn’t gone down, this would be his 7th ring and the would have possibly gone undefeated in 2008.

  10. Come up with any excuse you want folks….AFC East….they cheat….whatever makes you feel
    better. Fact is they are just better than everyone else.

  11. Dolphins. Jets. Bills.

    Three teams who have exactly the same opportunity as the rest of the league to win enough games to be perennial contenders.

  12. And how about the stats take into the consideration how bad the AFC Least really is?

    I would like to see their record outside of the division over that same span.

  13. Kurts Cousin says:
    June 7, 2019 at 10:26 am
    Not hard to do when you don’t play anyone in your division with a winning record.

    10 33 Rate This

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    The 1980s 49ers say hello.

  14. Peyton Manning had a free ride to 14-2 in his division every year.
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    Non-Manning AFC South Playoff appearances 2002-2010; 6

    Non-Brady AFC East Playoff appearances 2002-2010; 5

  15. therealjr says:
    June 7, 2019 at 10:21 am
    Dolphins. Jets. Bills.

    19 45 Rate This

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    Saints. Rams. Falcons.

    – 1980s 49ers

    Toodles!

  16. That winning pct. argument doesnt hold any water because the Dolphins, Jets and Bills are among the worst teams in the NFL year in and out.

  17. There is only one team in the NFL in the last 20 years with a winning record against playoff teams…the Patriots.

    It…doesn’t…matter…who…they…play.

  18. Move Patriots in “your” division and watch “your” teams turn into Dolphins. Jets. Bills.
    ======

    They never would have survived the year in year out bloodfueds in the AFC North.

    Even if you win those battles, the attrition costs you the war.

  19. Given the indisputable and immutable facts below, this is not a surprise:

    1. Tom Brady is the Greatest NFL Player of All-Time
    2. Bill Belichick is the Greatest NFL Head Coach and Greatest NFL GM of All-Time.
    3. New England Patriots fans are the Greatest Sports Fans of All-Time of any Professional Team. Not to mention most knowledgeable and most humble.

  20. aarons444 says:

    June 7, 2019 at 10:49 am

    Move Patriots in “your” division and watch “your” teams turn into Dolphins. Jets. Bills.
    ======

    They never would have survived the year in year out bloodfueds in the AFC North.

    Even if you win those battles, the attrition costs you the war.

    =============================

    So you’re saying the Patriots have never had to deal with missed games by important players ? Their team mantras over the last 20 years have literally been “next man up” and “do your job”. … yikes.

  21. Thanks to Brady, Jimmy G, and Brisette for leading the team to this amazing record.

  22. It’s so easy to throw out the same lame argument against the Pat’s dominance without knowing the facts.

    You have already seen the figures of the Pat’s record in the division and then out so I won’t rehash that but the Boston Globe on December 6, 2018 printed an article by Alex Speir, using data from pro-football-reference.com, that analyzed division performance during the Pat’s reign. Feel free to look it up.
    “The AFC East has been just mediocre – not terrible – during the Patriots’ reign”

    Here is the data from part of the story. This shows each division’s winning percentage EXCLUDING the top team (2001-2018):

    NFC East .503 excluding Eagles
    NFC South .503 excluding Saints
    AFC West. .476 ex. Broncos
    AFC North . 468 ex. Steelers
    AFC EAST .465 ex. Patriots
    NFC North .456 ex. Packers
    AFC South .446 ex. Colts
    NFC West .415 ex. Seahawks

    So sorry Colts and Seahawk fans!

  23. Leman Russ says:

    June 7, 2019 at 10:47 am

    That winning pct. argument doesnt hold any water because the Dolphins, Jets and Bills are among the worst teams in the NFL year in and out.

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    It literally holds ALL the water. Brady has a losing career record in Miami. Pats in and out of division winning pct.’s are almost identical DESPITE them playing a first place out of division schedule pretty much every single year of this era.

  24. And you only won 3 Superbowls. 2 of them was because the Falcons imploded and the Seahawks didn’t hand off to Lynch. The Patriots bandwagon will be empty soon anyway. As soon as the two known cheaters retire.

  25. I don’t really care about hockey, but this is why I want the St. Louis Blues to win.
    And I really don’t care about hockey.

  26. Arguments from Pats haters are so lame and predictable it’s embarrassing.
    Just have to recognize that the Belichick-Brady combo has generated the top dynasty in NFL history. Period. And I am not a Pats fan.

  27. So you’re saying the Patriots have never had to deal with missed games by important players ? Their team mantras over the last 20 years have literally been “next man up” and “do your job”. … yikes.
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    It couldn’t be more clear what I said.

    Outside of a couple years against the Rexys Jets, they never faced physical opponents like the Steelers and Ravens with any consistency.

    I don’t think they would have survived 6 games a year against competition like that.

  28. Chill_Donahue says:
    June 7, 2019 at 10:33 am
    Brady’s winning pct:

    vs. NFL: .770

    vs. AFC: .771

    vs. NFC: .765

    vs. AFC East: .794

    If the AFC East really helped them that much, it would show up here. It doesn’t.

    vs. AFC East: .794

    If the AFC East really helped them that much, it would show up here. It doesn’t.

    *******************************************************************************************

    It does add up. The cheaters play 6 games a year against the AFC East vs 4 games a year vs NFC. It actually adds up fast!

  29. theringisthething says:
    June 7, 2019 at 10:30 am
    Oh man, here we go again with the old ‘They only win that much because they play in a bad division.’

    Come up with a new argument please.
    —————–
    Ok you got us. Let’s go with cheating to win half their superbowls then instead.

  30. What a great TWO decades. So many weekends raking leaves and listening to the Patriots games, burgers on the grill, cold beer in the cooler…

  31. “And you only won 3 Superbowls.”

    Did this really seem like a strong insult as you were typing it?

  32. Here’s a list of the QBs in the division on the Jets, Fins, and Bills during that stretch:

    Henne, Moore, Tannehill, Cutler, Sanchez, Smith, Fitzpatrick, McCown, Darnold (R), Manuel, Orton, Taylor, Allen (R).

    Just sayin’.

    Pats fans simply can’t admit that that was a highly favorable circumstance.

    Pats probably would have won the division every season, but to put it into perspective, those three teams, Bills, Fins, Jets, are the worst of any threesome that any other single NFL has faced in their division, even if we use the worst teams of every divisioin on a year-to-year basis.

    That’s sayin’ something.

  33. It is very likely that the Bills, Jets and Dolphins would all have made the playoffs more often if they were in another division. BTW, one of the teams that supposedly gives the Patriots the most trouble – the Ravens, the Patriots are 10-3 all time.

  34. I’m not a Pats fan but this NFC East rhetoric is not only boring, it’s not factual. The rest of the league fares no better against them.

  35. Brady has a losing career record in Miami.
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    I’d keep that little nugget to yourself.

    They haven’t won a Playoff game since Brady became a starter…

  36. aarons444 says:

    June 7, 2019 at 11:04 am

    So you’re saying the Patriots have never had to deal with missed games by important players ? Their team mantras over the last 20 years have literally been “next man up” and “do your job”. … yikes.
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    It couldn’t be more clear what I said.

    Outside of a couple years against the Rexys Jets, they never faced physical opponents like the Steelers and Ravens with any consistency.

    I don’t think they would have survived 6 games a year against competition like that.

    =====================

    Uh, with the Pats drawing a first place out of division schedule almost every single year, they actually played those two teams A LOT, along with other playoff bound out of division opponents. And of course, in the playoffs themselves.

    Brady vs.

    Steelers – 8-3, and 3-0 in playoffs

    Ravens – 6-1, and 2-2 in playoffs

  37. For all the “it’s because of the division “ crybabies (yes that’s what you are)

    Here you go…

    While the Patriots’ 86-24 record against the AFC East is staggering, their winning percentage (134-44, 0.753) against everyone else is the best in the NFL, while they have 25 more non-division victories than any other team.

    New England’s record against eventual division winners (24-14) makes them the only team in the NFL with a winning record in this category. Against teams who eventually made the playoffs in a given season, the Patriots (60-33, 0.645) are the best in the league, with the Steelers at a not-so-close second with a 0.480 winning percentage.

    Their success against teams who finished with a winning record (75-45, 0.625) is also an NFL-best mark, with the Steelers trailing by a considerable margin at a 0.440 winning percentage.

    It’s settled then. The Patriots don’t just take care of business against the AFC East, but no team is even close to their level of success against teams outside their division.

  38. @dicksienormous: the Patriots have won the Super Bowl 6 times, out of 9 appearances. All 6 wins were well deserved.

    But following your reasoning, they should have won 8, since the Giants got lucky twice. Also, the Eagles only won because the refs gave them two illegal touchdowns. So actually, the Patriots really have won all 9 Super Bowls they played in!

    If you’re going to come up with lame excuses, at least try to be accurate.

  39. The Analytical Kid says:

    Pats fans simply can’t admit that that was a highly favorable circumstance.

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    If it was truly favorable, there would be significant winning pct differences where the Pats consistently draw a first place out of division schedule. AFC East teams have stunk, but Miami have always given them trouble. The numbers show it doesn’t matter who the Pats play.

  40. Dolphins. Jets. Bills.

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    They played those teams 55 times since 2010, and won 43 of them. Thats a 78% win clip, just about the same as the other 111 games they played. I guess all the other teams are just as good as the AFC East….

  41. Haters love to make excuses, but when Brady wins a game like he did at KC in the cold, with lasers in his eye against a great team and makes a 3rd and 9 and two 3rd and 10 completions to drive in OT and win the game, then everyone else can simply bow down. Whine all you want about the teams in the AFC East, but very good teams have had plenty of chances to stop the Patriots and few have. Hats off to Peyton and Eli who managed to do it more than anyone else. And hats off to the Eagles for a great Super Bowl. Outside of that the rest of the league hasn’t done much.

  42. gonna get another plane ticket to see the greatest dynasty in sports history one more time while I can. even you mathematically challenged clowns with the weak division charade should borrow money from the parents to witness history while you can. you’ll thank me later.

  43. Mr J says:
    June 7, 2019 at 10:42 am
    And how about the stats take into the consideration how bad the AFC Least really is?

    I would like to see their record outside of the division over that same span.
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    You seriously asked this question! There must be 6 answers to this question above! NE’s winning % is nearly IDENTICAL outside the AFCE as it is inside. That argument has been thoroughly and completely debunked…

  44. Steelers – 8-3, and 3-0 in playoffs
    Ravens – 6-1, and 2-2 in playoffs
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    Go watch that Steelers-Bengals Playoff game from 2015… Then try to tell me with a strait face that the Pats could have withstood that kind of punishment.

    No team can.

  45. Mr J says:
    June 7, 2019 at 10:42 am
    And how about the stats take into the consideration how bad the AFC Least really is?

    I would like to see their record outside of the division over that same span.

    Again here it is

    While the Patriots’ 86-24 record against the AFC East is staggering, their winning percentage (134-44, 0.753) against everyone else is the best in the NFL, while they have 25 more non-division victories than any other team.

    New England’s record against eventual division winners (24-14) makes them the only team in the NFL with a winning record in this category. Against teams who eventually made the playoffs in a given season, the Patriots (60-33, 0.645) are the best in the league, with the Steelers at a not-so-close second with a 0.480 winning percentage.

    Their success against teams who finished with a winning record (75-45, 0.625) is also an NFL-best mark, with the Steelers trailing by a considerable margin at a 0.440 winning percentage.

    It’s settled then. The Patriots don’t just take care of business against the AFC East, but no team is even close to their level of success against teams outside their division.

    The division argument is LAME

  46. Brady vs.

    Steelers – 8-3, and 3-0 in playoffs

    Ravens – 6-1, and 2-2 in playoffs

    Actually

    It’s 11-3 vs the Steelers
    And 9-2 vs the ravens

    Over all since 2001 26-6 vs the BIG BAD AFC NORTH

    what a joke

  47. “Against the historically continuously weakest division in NFL History”

    Except its not. The AFCE over the last 15 years has the 3rd highest winning percentage outside of division with or without division leaders included.

    If those teams are so bad how come 5 other divisions have worse out of division records? The answer is they aren’t, its that the Pats make them look as bad as they do every other division.

  48. Team of the Decade – again

    btw Bledsoe was a damn good quarterback. Glad he was there.

  49. People should be thanking their lucky stars the Patriots haven’t spent the past 18 years in the same division as their teams. The Patriots would’ve been rolling there as well.

  50. aarons444 says:
    June 7, 2019 at 11:18 am
    Steelers – 8-3, and 3-0 in playoffs
    Ravens – 6-1, and 2-2 in playoffs
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    Go watch that Steelers-Bengals Playoff game from 2015… Then try to tell me with a strait face that the Pats could have withstood that kind of punishment.

    No team can.

    How stupid
    Great you picked one game

    AGAIN since 2001 the Patriots are 26-6 vs the afc north

    11-3
    Vs the steeler regular season and playoff

    10-2 vs the ravens regular season and playoffs

  51. aarons444 says:

    June 7, 2019 at 11:12 am

    Brady has a losing career record in Miami.
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    I’d keep that little nugget to yourself.

    They haven’t won a Playoff game since Brady became a starter…

    ==================================

    Why? Miami is a tough opponent for the Pats. Its definitive proof along with the winning pct splits that the AFC East isn’t the driving factor for the Pats dominance.

  52. billymutt says:
    June 7, 2019 at 11:15 am
    @dicksienormous: the Patriots have won the Super Bowl 6 times, out of 9 appearances. All 6 wins were well deserved.

    But following your reasoning, they should have won 8, since the Giants got lucky twice. Also, the Eagles only won because the refs gave them two illegal touchdowns. So actually, the Patriots really have won all 9 Super Bowls they played in!

    If you’re going to come up with lame excuses, at least try to be accurate.

    No way the Patriots would have ever beaten the Bears.

    If you are going to criticize someone’s accuracy, at least try to be accurate yourself.

  53. The Jets, Doplhins and Bill’s arent exactly hurting their percentage. That gets them home field where their record is great and a much easier shot to the super bowl. Still a great team but winning percentage wise that helps those numbers. Even this year no o es saying ooohhh toughest division, lol

  54. who cares!!! they are a bunch of cheaters. 3 of there 6 super bowls shouldn’t even count – tuck rule, spy gate, deflate gate.
    They will also be looked at as cheaters.

  55. How stupid
    Great you picked one game

    AGAIN since 2001 the Patriots are 26-6 vs the afc north
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    One game, which is a reflection of how physical those teams have been over a number of years.

    Stupid? Right back at ya if you would DARE argue the Dolphins, Bills and non-Rex Jets were even in the same ballpark as the Ravens Steelers and Bengals.

    Even if you want to drop 1 of those 3 and sub in the Browns, you’ve still got 4 games twice as physical as anything the AFCLEast has to offer.

  56. I think the key here is they accomplished this record in an era of the salary cap, free agency, and picking at the bottom of the draft every year.

    This NFL has a lot rules in place to prevent dynasties and total domination. That IMO is what makes this a great accomplishment.

    It also makes the haters squirm, which pleases Pats fans to no end.

    If all the haters have is the AFC east stinks, they are in big trouble.

  57. Why? Miami is a tough opponent for the Pats.
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    Again, not a feather in your cap.

    I say again, winless in the Playoffs since 2001.

  58. aarons444 says:
    June 7, 2019 at 11:32 am
    How stupid
    Great you picked one game

    AGAIN since 2001 the Patriots are 26-6 vs the afc north
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    One game, which is a reflection of how physical those teams have been over a number of years.

    Stupid? Right back at ya if you would DARE argue the Dolphins, Bills and non-Rex Jets were even in the same ballpark as the Ravens Steelers and Bengals.

    Even if you want to drop 1 of those 3 and sub in the Browns, you’ve still got 4 games twice as physical as anything the AFCLEast has to offer

    AGAIN!!!

    Then why has NE DOMINATED that division since 2001???

    26-6 overall

    They OWN the Steelers and the Ravens
    A combined 22-5 and 5-2 vs both in the playoffs

    Explain?

  59. aarons444 says:
    June 7, 2019 at 11:18 am
    Steelers – 8-3, and 3-0 in playoffs
    Ravens – 6-1, and 2-2 in playoffs
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    Go watch that Steelers-Bengals Playoff game from 2015… Then try to tell me with a strait face that the Pats could have withstood that kind of punishment.

    No team can.

    ————–

    Huh? The Bengals stink and the Patriots own the Steelers. Denver beat the Steelers the next week pretty easily. Brady took it down to the last play against Denver and if not for Peyton early in that game would have probably found a way to win it and could have won yet another Super Bowl. The Patriots would have loved to play the Steelers or the Bungles.

  60. The division the Patriots compete in plays a factor whether you like it or not. When you have three terrible teams in your division for the past 20 years, you basically are guaranteed six wins and playoff bye every season. The Patriots would probably have a slightly worse record if they were in another division. Now that said, no one can diminish the accomplishment because the Patriots still had to go out and win those division games plus all the others. All I’m saying is that the level of competition is weaker in the AFC East than other divisions. That’s a fact and it made the Patriots decade record easier to achieve. If nothing else, it speaks to how bad the Bills, Jets and Dolphins have been. Shame on the rest of the AFC East.

  61. Put any other 3 teams in the Patriots division facing BB over and over and the results would be the same. BB is the master.

  62. Explain?
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    Re-read

    I’m not arguing the record. Its outstanding.

    I’m saying they wouldn’t have fared as well if they consistently faced the bloodwars the Steelers-Ravens-Bengals regularly fought against eachother.

    Yeah, I picked the 2015, its the best example there is to prove that point. 6 games of absolute destruction. You might claim a few victories there. But you can’t win wars that way. Which is why those teams only have 1 ring this decade.

  63. aarons444 says:
    June 7, 2019 at 11:32 am
    How stupid
    Great you picked one game

    AGAIN since 2001 the Patriots are 26-6 vs the afc north
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    One game, which is a reflection of how physical those teams have been over a number of years.

    Stupid? Right back at ya if you would DARE argue the Dolphins, Bills and non-Rex Jets were even in the same ballpark as the Ravens Steelers and Bengals.

    Even if you want to drop 1 of those 3 and sub in the Browns, you’ve still got 4 games twice as physical as anything the AFCLEast has to offer.

    ————

    How can you mention the Bengals in any argument. They absolutely stink and even when they were winning that division they still stunk. Couldn’t do anything in a big game to save their life.

    The Steelers are 29-9 since 2001 against the Bengals including playoffs. They aren’t any good at all.

  64. gmredline says:

    June 7, 2019 at 11:04 am

    Chill_Donahue says:
    June 7, 2019 at 10:33 am
    Brady’s winning pct:

    vs. NFL: .770

    vs. AFC: .771

    vs. NFC: .765

    vs. AFC East: .794

    If the AFC East really helped them that much, it would show up here. It doesn’t.

    vs. AFC East: .794

    If the AFC East really helped them that much, it would show up here. It doesn’t.

    *******************************************************************************************

    It does add up. The cheaters play 6 games a year against the AFC East vs 4 games a year vs NFC. It actually adds up fast!

    =========================

    Uh, so why isn’t there a larger disparity between their division and the out of division winning pct? If it really did matter who they played, it would show up. And it certainly would show up more in the playoffs. It doesn’t matter who they play.

  65. bullcharger says:
    June 7, 2019 at 11:45 am
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    aarons444 says:
    June 7, 2019 at 11:32 am
    How stupid
    Great you picked one game

    AGAIN since 2001 the Patriots are 26-6 vs the afc north
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    One game, which is a reflection of how physical those teams have been over a number of years.

    Stupid? Right back at ya if you would DARE argue the Dolphins, Bills and non-Rex Jets were even in the same ballpark as the Ravens Steelers and Bengals.

    Even if you want to drop 1 of those 3 and sub in the Browns, you’ve still got 4 games twice as physical as anything the AFCLEast has to offer.

    ————

    How can you mention the Bengals in any argument. They absolutely stink and even when they were winning that division they still stunk. Couldn’t do anything in a big game to save their life.

    The Steelers are 29-9 since 2001 against the Bengals including playoffs. They aren’t any good at all.

    ———–

    To add to that the Bills, Jets and Dolphins are a combined 16-11 against the Bengals in that stretch (Bills 7-4, Jets 6-3, Dolphins 3-4)

  66. clemenza58 says:

    June 7, 2019 at 11:37 am

    The division the Patriots compete in plays a factor whether you like it or not. When you have three terrible teams in your division for the past 20 years, you basically are guaranteed six wins and playoff bye every season.

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    Tom Brady has a losing record in Miami. AFCE is not the 6 game guarantee you think it is. And if the AFCE was the main reason their record is always good, their out of division winning pct would be much lower than the AFCE pct. Its not. It doesn’t matter who they play.

  67. aarons444 says:

    June 7, 2019 at 11:34 am

    Why? Miami is a tough opponent for the Pats.
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    Again, not a feather in your cap.

    I say again, winless in the Playoffs since 2001.

    ================================

    Sure but you clearly missed the reason I brought it up.

  68. Tom Brady is a cheater
    Belicheck is a cheater
    Deflate gate
    Video gate
    PED
    Too old
    2 yard tom
    Montana is way better
    Viniatari
    Tuck rule
    Kraft is a creeper

    Please continue to deliver food for the Beast

    10 more years

  69. How can you mention the Bengals in any argument. They absolutely stink and even when they were winning that division they still stunk. Couldn’t do anything in a big game to save their life.
    =====

    They made the Playoffs 5 years in a row, 6 out of 7 years, and averaged 10+ wins/season 2011-2015

    … AFCLEast teams have 10 Playoff trips in the ENTIRE Brady-era.

  70. Ironic but true …given they have the easiest schedule and travel the least amount of miles then any other NFL team does help them to a winning season . But this party only has a few seasons left in the tank right Tom thumb ? LOL

  71. Not only did Bledsoe go 5-13 but Matt Cassel went 11-5…which means that Brady only lost 34 total games in the entire 2000’s decade.

  72. As a lifelong Patriots fan I must admit that they are indeed CHEATERS….. for the past 2 decades all they have done is CHEAT every other teams fan bases of any true hope they could of had at beating the Patriots……
    Let’s all hope they can continue to CHEAT the hopes & desires of fans of other teams dreams of winning for ANOTHER DECADE!!!!
    Go Pats you mean ole CHEATERS!!! LOL!!!!

  73. All I’m saying is that the level of competition is weaker in the AFC East than other divisions.

    The actual records don’t support what you’re saying, but by all means, keep repeating it.

  74. The struggles of the Bills, Jets and Dolphins are mostly due to the Patriots.

    There are parallels in other divisions. Peyton ruled the AFC South for years. Their division foes were hapless for most of that stretch. Tenn showed up from time to time, but that division was horrible for a long, long time. Peyton left and went to the AFC West. Then he dominated that division from 2012-2015 and the other teams seemed hapless. The AFC South since then has been much more competitive with Houston, Indy and Jax all winning.

  75. boiler72 says:
    June 7, 2019 at 10:36 am
    I agree that the other three teams in their division being pansies this entire time, isn’t a great argument. It isn’t New England’s fault that the other AFC East teams can’t build good rosters, etc. At the same time, having no competition for the division and home field every year, you can’t argue that it works in their favor, because it absolutely does.
    =======================
    Sure. But how do we know it’s much ado about nothing? Because the exact same posturing took place during the Montana\Young dynasty. How many fans bring up their weak division 2 decades later? Maybe just slightly more than none. IF you look at all three of the teams in that division and total up their W\L percentage from ’81 to ’98 no team had a cumulative winning percentage higher than 48%. Clearly some years were better than others but on the whole no team in that league competed with SF on a regular basis.

    The whole AFCE home field advantage conversation only works if we make the assumption the Patriots win all 6 games every year. The reality is their home field advantage is accomplished more outside of the AFCE than within.

  76. aarons444 says:
    June 7, 2019 at 11:54 am
    How can you mention the Bengals in any argument. They absolutely stink and even when they were winning that division they still stunk. Couldn’t do anything in a big game to save their life.
    =====

    They made the Playoffs 5 years in a row, 6 out of 7 years, and averaged 10+ wins/season 2011-2015

    … AFCLEast teams have 10 Playoff trips in the ENTIRE Brady-era.

    ———–

    Yeah… because of the Patriots winning the division.

    Also, when the Bengals have gotten to the playoffs they have been a fraud every time. So if their division is so great, why haven’t they been able to even win 1 playoff game?

  77. 2010-2018 against the Patriots…
    Buffalo, Miami, NYJ combine for 11 regular season wins against the Pats. .204 winning %
    Rest of AFC? a total of 10 regular season wins combined against the Pats. .185 winning %
    The NFC? 10 regular season wins combined against the Pats.

    The real reason for the Pats success is they get to play 6 games against non divisonal AFC teams and 4 games against the NFC EVERY year.

    It’s just not fair.

  78. The struggles of the Bills, Jets and Dolphins are mostly due to the Patriots.
    ======

    Don’t agree.

    The Bills had a 17-year Playoff drought. They haven’t won a Playoff Game since ’95. That’s historically bad.

    The Dolphins aren’t any better. Winless in the Brady-era in the Playoffs, only 3 trips overall.

    10 Playoffs trips overall.

    Every NFL Divison has a fared better, 2001-present.

  79. Dear Whiners,
    Your sad complaints about how weak the AFC East are so tired and factually disproven. Here is a scary thought: Based on the Patriots track record against YOUR division, just be glad they are not a member of it, or you would know how Jets, Dolphins and Bills fans feel.

  80. aarons444 says:
    June 7, 2019 at 11:43 am
    Explain?
    ======

    Re-read

    I’m not arguing the record. Its outstanding.

    I’m saying they wouldn’t have fared as well if they consistently faced the bloodwars the Steelers-Ravens-Bengals regularly fought against eachother.

    Yeah, I picked the 2015, its the best example there is to prove that point. 6 games of absolute destruction. You might claim a few victories there. But you can’t win wars that way. Which is why those teams only have 1 ring this decade.

    ————–

    Battle tested teams usually do better in the playoffs. Not worse.

    I have no doubt that if the Patriots had the Steelers or Ravens in their division it would be harder. That I buy. But not the Bungles and obviously not the both the Steelers and Ravens. Not many divisions have 3 great teams. I would take the Browns and Bengles over the Jets and Dolphins in a heartbeat.

  81. I love how the Pats have destroyed the hopes and dreams of so many franchises and their fans. They all have excuses. Raiders(for 25 yrs), Rams,Steelers,Colts, Falcons, Seahawks. Love it.

  82. aarons444 says:
    June 7, 2019 at 12:08 pm
    The struggles of the Bills, Jets and Dolphins are mostly due to the Patriots.
    ======

    Don’t agree.

    The Bills had a 17-year Playoff drought. They haven’t won a Playoff Game since ’95. That’s historically bad.

    The Dolphins aren’t any better. Winless in the Brady-era in the Playoffs, only 3 trips overall.

    10 Playoffs trips overall.

    Every NFL Divison has a fared better, 2001-present.

    ————-

    You have to look at records, not playoff appearances. The only way those 3 teams could make the playoffs is via Wild Card because of the Patriots. Which is very hard. However, if you look at records of non-division winners across all divisions, the AFC East is middle of the pack in the Brady era. Just that losing at least 1 and often 2 games to the Patriots plus better WC teams in other divisions don’t leave much room for them to make the playoffs.

    There area also many intangible reasons why the Patriots impact the Bills, Jets and Dolphins. They are constantly under pressure to make changes due to lack of success, which in turn makes them very inconsistent.

    Same thing happened to the texans, titans and jags in the Peyton era.

  83. Ahhh NO.

    A division of the Jags/Titans/Texans would be worse.
    Or perhaps playing the 49ers/Cards/and Rams (pre-last year) would be worse.

    ___________________________________
    The Analytical Kid says:
    June 7, 2019 at 11:10 am
    Pats probably would have won the division every season, but to put it into perspective, those three teams, Bills, Fins, Jets, are the worst of any threesome that any other single NFL has faced in their division, even if we use the worst teams of every divisioin on a year-to-year basis.

    That’s sayin’ something.

  84. Apparently the “but, but, but you place in the AFC East” crowd never gets tired of having that talking point proved wrong. Time and again.

  85. The 49ers had what might be an even more impressive feat for the 1980’s – their ROAD record for the decade was better than every other team in the league (except for one – the Broncos) HOME record. Think about that – winning more games on the road over an entire decade than anyone but one could win at HOME? That’s an insanely impressive road performance over an extended period of time.

  86. They only previous Dynasty they would probably beat more than half the time would be the 90s Cowboys though. 80s 49ers, 70s Steelers, 60s Packers were are superior teams. Not coached, but since FA hadn’t started were just stacked all over the field. Even playing in today’s rules the Steel Curtain would shut down the offense.

  87. aarons444 says:

    June 7, 2019 at 12:08 pm

    The struggles of the Bills, Jets and Dolphins are mostly due to the Patriots.
    ======

    Don’t agree.

    The Bills had a 17-year Playoff drought. They haven’t won a Playoff Game since ’95. That’s historically bad.

    The Dolphins aren’t any better. Winless in the Brady-era in the Playoffs, only 3 trips overall.

    10 Playoffs trips overall.

    Every NFL Divison has a fared better, 2001-present.

    ===================

    So why hasn’t the Pats winning pct. splits reflected it? Especially since the out of division games were subject to first place scheduling.

    Because it doesn’t matter who they play.

    They are the only team of the last 20 years with a winning record against playoff teams.

  88. aarons444 says:
    June 7, 2019 at 10:49 am
    Move Patriots in “your” division and watch “your” teams turn into Dolphins. Jets. Bills.
    ======

    They never would have survived the year in year out bloodfueds in the AFC North.

    Even if you win those battles, the attrition costs you the war.

    ————–
    Brady and the Patriots absolutely own the cream-puff AFC North. The only division that has challenged them is the AFC West.

  89. Guys, that’s just 6 games with division rivals but they still have 10 games with other teams and the Pats are just as good against them. So the weak division excuse is just, err, weak. And they have to play the best teams in the playoff. The Pats just take care of business. To argue against their greatness is just silly at this point. Even when they didn’t win home field through out in the last season, they still went on the road and beat the Chiefs. Again, they just take care of business.

  90. I wanna give special mention to the dude who keeps referencing the Bengals.
    As if to insinuate the 2001-2018 Belichick/Brady Patriots could never have handled that team twice a season.
    Awesome. Just awesome.

  91. I’m not sure what the argument is here. If the Patriots’ win/loss record were all a result of a weak division, wouldn’t their playoff record be worse?
    It’s OK to hate the Patriots and still admit that they’ve been the dominant force in the league for 18 years. We root against them because they’re good, not because they’re consistently overrated. That’s why we root against the Cowboys.

  92. How are these for win %s

    Won 11.3% of Super Bowls that were ever played.
    Appeared in almost over 20% of Super Bowls that were ever played.

  93. Stop using the argument ‘Pats play in easy division.’ Records are just as impressive with the rest of the league. TB12 and Belicheck are G.O.A.T.s

  94. The annual patriots ring ceremony…..the unofficial unofficial start of summer

  95. …Think about that – winning more games on the road over an entire decade…

    Between 1981 and 1990 SF won 61 road games. More than any other team won at home over that entire decade.

    Very hard to beat.

  96. Weakest division? Not New England’s fault, nor is it their problem to fix. Could also argue that the rest of the division suffers from having to play the Patriots more than anyone else.

  97. I would like to recognize the Cleveland Browns at this time.

    Their 1-2 record in all games against the Patriots represents the highest winning percentage (.333) any AFC team has been able to achieve since 2010.

    yay Browns

  98. Is the Patriots record clouded because they play the AFC east or is the AFC east record poor because they play the Patriots 8 games a year. And even if the division is weak explain their playoff excellence

  99. footballpat says:
    June 7, 2019 at 2:22 pm
    Is the Patriots record clouded because they play the AFC east or is the AFC east record poor because they play the Patriots 8 games a year. And even if the division is weak explain their playoff excellence

    ———-

    6 games per year…but I know to my Dolphins it seems like 8

  100. @yzeass: the discussion is about the last two decades of Patriots dominance. Your speculation about the Patriots and the Bears is just that, and is irrelevant. Check your math, mine is accurate as stated.

  101. Steelcurtain says:They can best winning percentage. The Steelers got the best teams in the decade of all time. 4 of 6 sb wins will never be beat.
    ————————————————————
    What??? The Steelers have not been relevant in over 10 years! Interesting coincidence that the Steelers last Super Bowl win ( over 10 years ago)occurred the year TB12 was out on injury !!

  102. steelcurtainn says:
    June 7, 2019 at 2:06 pm
    They can best winning percentage. The Steelers got the best teams in the decade of all time. 4 of 6 sb wins will never be beat.

    2 7 Rate This

    —————–

    Yes it will.

    1. No Salary Cap in That Era. Advantage Pats.
    2. No cheating commissioner trying to slow down the Steelers dominance for more revenue and parity.

    Enjoy!

  103. New England Patriots winning percentage in _playoff games_, 2001-2018: .750 (30-10)

    That’s the best the league has to offer, every year. They’ve played 40 extra games over the last 18 years, in the playoffs, against teams that made the playoffs, and won 75% of them.

    The idea that they are somehow a product of weak competition is laughable…

  104. I certainly can’t discredit
    “The Belichick’s”. If you’re smart, you look for any advantage. If the advantages out way the consequences, you take it!

    However, with this stupid record; they went 48 and 11 in the AFC East in nine years!

  105. Pats odds on favorites to win again this year. Maybe hold onto that thought for a bit skippy.

    ============================
    steelcurtainn says:
    June 7, 2019 at 2:06 pm
    They can best winning percentage. The Steelers got the best teams in the decade of all time. 4 of 6 sb wins will never be beat.

  106. I am not so sure the division element can be overlooked.

    During the Brady era, the Steelers played the Raven’s twice a year in what was affectionately known as the “black & blue Bowl”. In addition to having an almost perfect 500 record, no matter how you look at it, it was between two teams that won 4 Superbowls over the era. Often the two met a third time in the playoffs.

    More than the win loss impact on winning percentage and the quality of those two teams, it was a load either team carried into the playoffs in terms of homefield advantages. A load Brady and Peyton hardly ever carried.

    Then there is the real cost. One measure of those games was Injuries per game, or starters put on injured reserve after that game. I have no idea of the stats on that, but I can say as a Steeler fan, a lot of players ended their season in the Baltimore game. Mendenhall, Clark on McGahee.

    The annual toll these games took on the AFC North leaders was something Brady and Manning did not face in their year in year out seasons.

    Add to that, at least twice in the last ten years, three teams from the AFC North made the playoffs.

    Anyone says that this competitive division fight existed in the East or South was watching different league, Baseball maybe?

  107. aarons444 says:
    June 7, 2019 at 12:08 pm
    The struggles of the Bills, Jets and Dolphins are mostly due to the Patriots.
    ======

    Don’t agree.

    The Bills had a 17-year Playoff drought. They haven’t won a Playoff Game since ’95. That’s historically bad.

    The Dolphins aren’t any better. Winless in the Brady-era in the Playoffs, only 3 trips overall.

    10 Playoffs trips overall.

    Every NFL Divison has a fared better, 2001-present.
    ———
    This statement is factually incorrect.

    The Patriots by themselves have a better postseason record than any other division. Am I to assume that you are removing the best team from each division?

    The Bengals haven’t won a playoff game since 1991, 28 years ago, that’s much more historically bad than the Bill’s drought (don’t forget that Jim Kelly took the Bills to 4 straight Super Bowls in the 90’s)

    Also, you conveniently left out the Jets who have actually been to the AFCCG, knocking off both Peyton Manning & Brady en route. People seem to forget the Jets were actually pretty good when Revis was in his prime.

    Dolphins have always been a hot/cold up and down kind of team, but they did manage to win the division one year even when the Pats went 11-5 with Matt Cassel.

    How many playoff appearances do the Browns have?
    How many playoff wins do the Bengals have?
    You are delusional if you think the AFC North is anything special.

    How about that AFC South? How many teams not named the Colts have made any playoff noise? Jacksonville did well a couple years ago, Texans always lose in the playoffs, Tenn always lose in the playoffs. Your statement does not add up.

  108. Look at the history of the QB’s Brady has faced in the AFC East. J.P. Losman, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Ryan Tannehill, Mark Sanchez and Chad Pennington. Some of these guys played for both the Jets and Dolphins or skipped around within the division. Close to 20 years of very mediocre QB’s the Pats have faced in the East.

  109. How many playoff appearances do the Browns have?
    How many playoff wins do the Bengals have?
    You are delusional if you think the AFC North is anything special.
    ======

    Browns.. same as the Bills (1)
    Bengals.. same as the Dolphins and Bills (0)

    I never said the AFCN was a great division. Helluva lot tougher than the AFCE when comparing team records though.

    I said the AFCN was a physical Division, and I don’t think the Pats would be what they are if they regularly faced the Ravens and Steelers, as opposed to pushovers like the Bills and Phins.

  110. theitalianarmy says:
    June 7, 2019 at 3:25 pm
    Look at the history of the QB’s Brady has faced in the AFC East. J.P. Losman, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Ryan Tannehill, Mark Sanchez and Chad Pennington. Some of these guys played for both the Jets and Dolphins or skipped around within the division. Close to 20 years of very mediocre QB’s the Pats have faced in the East.
    ———-
    Fine, but As others have posted 30 times over, they then face 10 other QBs outside the division (including the division winners due to a constant first place schedule) each season and have almost the identical record. Why? Explain why it’s the same? Are all of the other QBs in the JP Losman category or maybe, just maybe, the Patriots are just generationally awesome.

    An excellent post by lyfordjr above states they are 30-10 in the playoffs. 40 games against playoff teams only, 75% winning percentage. About on par with their in and out of division winning percentage, go figure.

  111. How about that AFC South? How many teams not named the Colts have made any playoff noise? Jacksonville did well a couple years ago, Texans always lose in the playoffs, Tenn always lose in the playoffs.
    =====

    Texans never made the Playoffs in the Manning-era… they were an expansion team

    Titans – 2-4 in the Playoffs in the Manning-era, 1 AFCC Game
    Jags – 1-2 in the Playoffs in the Manning-era

    300% more wins than the Bills and Phins

    .. twice as many trips as the Bills, Jests, and Fish made 2010-present

  112. Also, you conveniently left out the Jets who have actually been to the AFCCG, knocking off both Peyton Manning & Brady en route. People seem to forget the Jets were actually pretty good when Revis was in his prime.
    ======

    Wrong, I listed AFCE V AFCS appearances above.

  113. 1. No Salary Cap in That Era. Advantage Pats.
    2. No cheating commissioner trying to slow down the Steelers dominance for more revenue and parity.

    Enjoy!

    It must be great to make the rules up as you go along. Never lose that way….right Francis?

  114. Team of the past two decades more amazing is the sb championship that go with all those wins!

  115. Tom Brady needs to play…and WIN under someone not named Belicheck to prove it’s truly HIS greatness.Remember, Belicheck was going to get rid of Tom until Tom went to the massage therapist and had the reversal called.

  116. I’m a Pats fan. Their record in the Super Bowl “is what it is” all of the what if’s/lucky plays, bad refs and bad coaching has balanced out.
    1) sorry fellow pats fans, the yo-yo catch is balanced by the Velcro catch – either one could have gone either way.
    2) bad coaching decisions, not giving the ball to beast mode vs not playing Malcolm Butler. My point is who knows if either play would have changed the outcome. These too balance out.
    3) Mario manning catch was a nice play. You have to give credit where credit is do.

    Mark Wright

  117. Meanwhile, over the next decade, GB will break their record of 92 losses in the 70s,,,,

  118. The arguments just get weaker and weaker. Keep grabbing at straws and denying. Warts and all, Kraft, Brady and Belichick are the greatest ‘Perfect Storm’ in sports history. (mic drop).

  119. The Pats should have won 10 more games in the 2000’s and put the Cowboys and Dolphins in 3rd and 4th place. That 2008 team when Brady blew out his knee would have won 15-16 games plus playoffs, which would be 5-8 more. Had Brady taken over in 2000 they’d have won 5 more. But it is what it is, just like Super Bowls. You can’t win them all, but coming close sure is fun.

  120. The AFC East is only the AFC Least because of the pats. If the pats weren’t as good, the Bills and Dolphins would be much better. We all know nothing can help the Jets though 😉.

  121. To all the jealous idiots out there that say yes of course because they played in a weak decision or bad plays. Just remember that they did it during Salary Cap which means everything is equal for everyone, unless the other ones are stupid and don’t draft correctly and or they have greedy players on there team that will no help out in the draft cap space….. The GOAT’s Bill Belichick and Tom Brady… That Folks Says It ALL!!!!!

  122. Not a Pats fan, but can’t deny the dominance.

    For some perspective, I went back and looked at the 60’s packers – the most dominant team of their era.

    Through the first 8 years of the decade, (if my math is correct because I’m no math major) they posted a .780 winning percentage. Two bad years to end the decade dropped them like a rock to .730

    That’s how hard this kind of sustained greatness is. The Patriots era, love ’em or hate ’em, has been something to behold.

  123. I find it shameful how hateful so many of you are… and I’m not even a Pats fan.

    Bill Belichick is the best there’s ever been and that includes, to my great dismay, Vince Lombardi. I hung in the Lombardi camp as long as I could, but Belichick finally just kicked the door down and gorilla’d the place.

    Tom Brady is well on his way to making the same claim. I’m still with Bart Starr on that one, but one more ring and there will be no denying Brady, either.

    It’s possible to recognize greatness in others..s it’s called adulthood.

  124. Patriot’s will beat the Steelers record of 4 of 6 Super Bowls in a Decade when they win it again this year and it will be 4 of 5 Super Bowl appearances. Leetttttt’ssssss Gooooooooo!!!

  125. It doesn’t matter if you “believe” the AFC East (outside the Pats) is the worst division. The numbers show it’s been at least an average division over these time periods, or above average at times. And as anyone who’s actually watched the games knows, the Pats hardly get a free pass in their division – the Dolphins and Jets, at times, have been especially challenging opponents for them.

  126. Winning their division games only gives the 6 wins. Not sure but I don’t think the Pats were 6-10 in the last 10 years

  127. look look at the AFC East QBs!!
    The league is full of terrible QB’s in every division, and full of idiot coaches too. That is not an AFC East centric thing. You want to know the Patriots secret. It is really easy in theory. Study hard, practice hard, don’t screw up. When the other guy does–and he will–take advantage of it. How many times do you see your team screw up? When BB does it, it is a week of news. 4th and 2 anyone? KC Brady is finished game? When the Jets or Indy do something dumb..its just football. Its not a unicorn.

    AFC North–who I guess think they are special cuz they beat Brady once or twice. See, it doesn’t matter. They are not in the same league over time. Ravens may have had a year or two, even the Bengals, KC, or whoever. Over time…no one is even in the same zip code.

    Wins? go look at point differential…I’ll wait. to wit: There are 17 teams between negative-700 and plus-160 point differential. Meanwhile, the Patriots are in a different galaxy at plus-2,534 more than double every team except no. 2 Pittsburgh (plus-1,354).
    This opponent, that opponent. Doesn’t matter. The reality is the Pats are just that much better, like Kryptonians vs humans better. I’m a Pats fan, and those numbers even freak me out.
    And don’t buy the ‘they are not going to be any good this year without Gronk’..this team as currently constructed is better on both sides of the ball compared to last years team.

  128. The arguments just get weaker and weaker. Keep grabbing at straws and denying. Warts and all, Kraft, Brady and Belichick are the greatest ‘Perfect Storm’ in sports history. (mic drop).

    I think you are forgetting the Yankees Canadians and of course the great Celtics of the Russel era but as the epitome of homerism your vision ends at the tip of your nose.

  129. As a life long Bears fan I have NO love for the Pats. However, as a lifelong NFL fan, I also have to admit there’s NEVER been ANYTHING like the Pats winning run. Id be embarrassed to even try the ridiculous “arguments” being made vs the Pats here. 2 Bear examples:

    1) Having watched the 85 Bears TOTALLY dominate the complete NFL – even shutting out playoff/championship they played – “those” Bears (at the time) accumulated the BEST FIVE YEAR record in NFL history. Despite that, just a FEW key injuries and a FEW free agent leaves – and that great Bears team still only won ONE Super Bowl. And many rate the 85 team one of the greatest (it was.)

    Then, the only recent super bowl Bear team – the Urlacher, Briggs, Tillman, Peppers Bears made ONE super bowl despite the DEFENSE dominated most every team for several years – EXCEPT ONE… every friggin time they played PATS Brady/Belichik picked their perfect (one of the best zone Def’s ever) zone Def apart. NO other Offense/QB could – EVERY other team would always make a mistake. (Dont say Manning Colts, they strugglred the Bears offense/Rexy couldnt do anything on offense; they gave Manning plenty of trouble.) But not Brady & Belichik’s PERFECTION. The team is amazing – and its obvious

  130. Oh,man – what a chest-beating festival this turned into!

    Whywerule – best coach & QB, no doubt. Best fans? Ridiculous. Most Pats fans today won’t make it through any kind of playoff drought or adversity. They’re like trust fund kids or something.

    Don’t like the Pats or their fans. Don’t like Boston, clam chowder, foliage or salt air. But this team has done something historic, and as a fan of the game, I appreciate that.

  131. Vasteelerfan says:
    June 7, 2019 at 6:18 pm
    The arguments just get weaker and weaker. Keep grabbing at straws and denying. Warts and all, Kraft, Brady and Belichick are the greatest ‘Perfect Storm’ in sports history. (mic drop).

    I think you are forgetting the Yankees Canadians and of course the great Celtics of the Russel era but as the epitome of homerism your vision ends at the tip of your nose.

    ————————-
    Those are certainly great teams that had some good stretches. But no one has run anything like the 19 year stretch the Pats have put out. The article mentions that the record the Pats are breaking with this decade was set by them last decade. Thats an insane long stretch. The only thing that matches it in PRO sports is the Americas Cup domination the US had going at one point.

  132. Most Pats fans today won’t make it through any kind of playoff drought or adversity.
    ————————-
    Been here through the worst…like the WORST, we were the NE Browns, some momentary hopes– 85 hahaha, 96. I’ll be here forever. Did you know the year of our first SB win, the team was projected by some pundits to win a single game? 2001 came out of nowhere, and unlike other teams, it just turned out not to be a fluke.
    Its not Trust fund…its lottery winners.
    Besides…if the Pats are down, then there is also the Sox, Celtics and Bruins. They feed off each other, as long as one is winning, the rest will rise up. Been seeing it for years now. BB retires..fine, not only has he rubbed off on the Pats, but the other coaches and managers use him as a consultant. Winning will be in Boston in one form or another for a while. Sorry.

  133. There was no free agency during the great Yankees, Canadians, Celtics dynasties. That’s the point. Pats draft at the end of the 1rst end every year, but still go to the SBowl. Wake up. Stop hating

  134. Amazing accomplishment, you haters need to at least respect it.

    And for those with the usual AFC East crying, you’re probably Jets/Dolphins/Bills fans. Win % vs rest of the league is about the same too, but keep bringing up this “weak division”. But funny how everyone ignores the 2000s Colts and even Steelers having probably even worse divisions overall.

  135. Well, we can’t take all the credit. We’d like to thank Goodell and the NERA, or New England Referees Association, for all their contributions and continued support.

  136. Salary cap has made for fewer strong teams. Better teams and stronger teams in the past

  137. whywerule says:
    June 7, 2019 at 10:50 am
    Given the indisputable and immutable facts below, this is not a surprise:

    1. Tom Brady is the Greatest NFL Player of All-Time
    2. Bill Belichick is the Greatest NFL Head Coach and Greatest NFL GM of All-Time.
    3. New England Patriots fans are the Greatest Sports Fans of All-Time of any Professional Team. Not to mention most knowledgeable and most humble.

    ——

    Bro, i am die hard and have to laugh at your #3 like it must be written in sarcasm. We have so many idiot bandwagon fans its ridiculous… many of which who HATE on brady and belichick

  138. Major Mal – that is some unusual logic. They “rub off” on other teams? And BB would probably laugh at the notion that he does any meaningful consulting w/ the other teams.

    The Bruins are built to win now. Brady is 42. The Sox are already taking a back seat to the Yankees, who are crazy young & deep and will rule the east for a decade. And the Celts are in full rebuild this summer.

    The golden age of Boston is over. Unless the Bruins win 2 straight, you’ve probably seen your last duck boat for quite a few years.

  139. billsrthefuture says:
    June 7, 2019 at 6:26 pm
    Oh,man – what a chest-beating festival this turned into!

    Whywerule – best coach & QB, no doubt. Best fans? Ridiculous. Most Pats fans today won’t make it through any kind of playoff drought or adversity. They’re like trust fund kids or something.

    Don’t like the Pats or their fans. Don’t like Boston, clam chowder, foliage or salt air. But this team has done something historic, and as a fan of the game, I appreciate that.
    ………..

    I take serious issue with your take on clam chowder

  140. People who say I’m not a fan and then defend that team, guess what? You are a fan and you’re not fooling anyone with that tired ” not a fan ” comment and it doesn’t make your take any more or less valid.

  141. The division.stinks.
    They aren’t tough enough.
    Brady would fail under another coach.

    All of this, and more, only in attempts to discredit 20 years of dominance.

    It’s laughable.

  142. I enjoy exposing stupidity. There is plenty to work with.

    Brady’s record per division…

    NFC North 17 3 .850
    NFC East 13 3 .812
    AFC North 26 5 .806
    AFC East 81 21 .794
    AFC South 25 6 .787
    NFC South 12 4 .750
    AFC West 22 12 .647
    NFC West 10 5 .667

  143. Jets,Bills & Dolphins have a lot to do with that.

    Washington Post – May 28,2019 had this- Pats had the easiest schedule in the NFL for the 3rd year in a row.

  144. billsrthefuture says:
    June 7, 2019 at 8:09 pm

    The golden age of Boston is over. Unless the Bruins win 2 straight, you’ve probably seen your last duck boat for quite a few years.
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    Remind us about your predictions for last season so we may assess your credibility.

  145. For all those telling us that the Patriots success is purely based on playing a weak schedule, can you please tell me which are the really good NFL teams that NE could not beat?

  146. I would not say that new england (or Indi with Peyton) wins Soley or even mostly because of av weak division.

    The Patriots have the best coach and the best QB in the game. That is the primary reason for their success. And it is well earned and deserved.

    To argue that the weak AFC East does not contribute to their success is nonsense. As a fan, you need a decade in a tough division to grasp it.

    In the Brady era, the North has won four Super bowls out of five visits. Behind the East’s five wins out of seven appearances.

    Very few years the north did not send two teams to the playoffs. A few years they sent three.

    That is tough competitive football.

  147. aarons444 says:
    June 7, 2019 at 3:35 pm

    I said the AFCN was a physical Division, and I don’t think the Pats would be what they are if they regularly faced the Ravens and Steelers, as opposed to pushovers like the Bills and Phins.
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    We get it. You loooove the “tough” AFC North and hate NE, but your tortured logic is bizarre.

    NE has played both Baltimore and Pittsburgh a lot through this era and their record against both is utterly dominant. Yet somehow if NE was in that division they wouldn’t be successful against teams they have beaten over and over again?

  148. May 28,2019 Washington Post – The Pats have the easiest schedule in the NFL for the 3rd year in a row.

  149. tavisteelersfan says:
    June 9, 2019 at 12:55 pm

    I would not say that new england (or Indi with Peyton) wins Soley or even mostly because of av weak division.

    The Patriots have the best coach and the best QB in the game. That is the primary reason for their success. And it is well earned and deserved.

    To argue that the weak AFC East does not contribute to their success is nonsense. As a fan, you need a decade in a tough division to grasp it.

    In the Brady era, the North has won four Super bowls out of five visits. Behind the East’s five wins out of seven appearances.

    Very few years the north did not send two teams to the playoffs. A few years they sent three.

    That is tough competitive football.

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    Brady is 11-3 vs the Steelers, 9-2 vs the Ravens and 6-1 vs the Bengals and Browns.

    How come these so-called tough competitive football teams have a worse record against NE than the Dolphins, Bills and Jets?

  150. fmc651 says:

    June 10, 2019 at 2:52 am

    May 28,2019 Washington Post – The Pats have the easiest schedule in the NFL for the 3rd year in a row.

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    That’s preseason predictions which aren’t worth a whole lot. The actual strength of schedule rankings tabulated after the season for the Pats the last few years have been: 2018 – 17th, 2017 – 24th, and 2016 – 23rd. And they’ve almost always had a 1st place out of division schedule for about 20 years now.

    And the Pats went 4-0 against 12 win teams last year. It…doesn’t…matter…who they play.

  151. Haters.. I am here to help.. Please let me know of all the pain the Patriots have caused you over the years. Only when you truly open up will the healing process begin…. [man this is going to be fun]

  152. jstdad says:
    June 7, 2019 at 10:22 am
    Against the historically continuously weakest division in NFL History

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    They never stop to think that it looks weak because they have to eat at least two losses each against the Patriots every year while they beat each other up. If it were just the division, you’d think someone else in the division would have stepped up in the past twenty years. If it were just the division, you’d think the Patriots would be one-and-done more often in the past twenty years. Instead, they’ve gone on to win the conference against teams let supposedly better divisions, and appeared in nearly half the Super Bowls.

    When will the haters run out of excuses? Never. Because that would require looking in the mirror.

  153. The lousy division does give them an advantage. Many times one or two extra wins gave them home field advantage. Pats are subpar on the road in the playoffs.

  154. nite2al says:
    June 12, 2019 at 2:06 pm
    …Pats are subpar on the road in the playoffs.
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    Pats road playoff record in this millennium is subpar to their home playoff record, sure, but there are 31 teams in the league not named the Patriots who would love to have the Pats 4-4 road playoff record that includes 3 AFC Championship game wins on the road, prior to 3 Super Bowl wins for the Patriots.

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