Kyle Rudolph’s new deal makes it easier for Vikings to keep him around

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The Vikings have signed tight end Kyle Rudolph to a four-year, $36 million extension. Without more details, it’s hard to know what that really means. So we tracked down more details.

Per a league source, Rudolph will receive $9.25 million fully guaranteed under the deal. The total guarantee (full guarantee plus injury guarantee) is $16.25 million.

Rudolph’s 2019 compensation is fully guaranteed. He’s getting $1.625 million more than the money he was already due to make, which included a base salary of $7.25 million. Rudolph’s 2020 salary of $7.375 million is guaranteed for injury. Beyond 2020, the deal has no guarantees.

As a practical matter, the Vikings will likely keep Rudolph for at least the next two seasons, which puts the new-money value of the one-year extension at $9 million. Depending on the number of years that the Vikings continue the arrangement after 2020, the new-money average will be $8.5 million (through 2021), $8.6 million (through 2022), or $9 million (through 2023).

Rudolph wanted to stay in Minnesota, as his Monday night tweet makes abundantly clear. Although he has given the Vikings ample flexibility when it comes to the balance of his career beyond 2020, his salaries coupled with the likely spikes in the salary cap will make it more attractive for the team to keep him around. He also realized that the team’s cap and cash situation makes it difficult to shell out large sums now, and that’s OK with Rudolph.

The whole purpose of free agency was to let players play where they want to play, and the salary cap sometimes gets in the way of players being able to stay where they are. Rudolph recognized the limitations that applied to hire desire to stay in Minnesota, and he accepted them in order to fulfill his broader goal to remain in the place that he and his family call home.

63 responses to “Kyle Rudolph’s new deal makes it easier for Vikings to keep him around

  1. It sounds like a 1 year deal, with 3 team option years.
    Rudolph got a 1 year $1.625 million for agreeing to that.
    The team will probably keep him for 2020, but after that it’s likely they let him go.

  2. In two years there shouldn’t be anybody left in that front office, at least from a practical standpoint, but as poorly run as this organization is, I suspect there will still be a few.

  3. “The comments about the Vikings being in “cap hell” are getting more comical after each player that gets signed. ”

    Per overthecap the Vikes now have 1.129 million in cap space. That essentially leaves them no room for in season maneuvers and signings so you better hope nobody important gets injured.

  4. The comments about the Vikings being in “cap hell” are getting more comical after each player that gets signed. Every front office in the league should be taking notes.
    —–
    Delusions of grandeur is what we call that

  5. Liberalsruineverything they are in cap hell. The fact that the line additions this year consist of Kline and several rookies and considering the abomination that it was last season, I am not sure how you think they aren’t in cap hell. Thing is, they weren’t even in cap hell until they decided to bring Barr back. While I don’t necessarily have a problem with that signing, it pretty much crippled any shot they had at another good lineman.

  6. Liberalsruineverything says:
    June 11, 2019 at 10:12 am

    The comments about the Vikings being in “cap hell” are getting more comical after each player that gets signed. Every front office in the league should be taking notes.
    __________

    Without actually seeing the hard numbers of this contract, it’s hard to comment either way.
    But with the Vikings already 3 million over the cap in 2020, I’d love to revisit this conversation with you next year, though I’m sure you’ll be posing as someone else by then.

    But as far as other front offices taking notes, I would ask, why?
    Those with knowledge about these practices already know how this movie ends.
    And it’s never pretty.
    You can always kick the salary can down the road further and further, but every year you accumulate more and more dead money until it finally crushes you.
    And then you will all experience one Hell of a hangover.
    Enjoy.

  7. Revamped O-line. New zone blocking scheme. 2 TE set. Talent at every spot except WR3, still anchored to Treadwell. I’m telling you the league will not be to stop them. They will be this years Chiefs on offense. Can their aging D-line play well enough to win lots of games. I think yes. The Vikings are going to be very good.

  8. The Vikings are very good when it comes to the cap but I am not sure about this deal. Rudy, hasn’t played up to his salary the last couple of years and I still don’t believe he is worth $9 million a year. That is in the top 8 tight ends in the league and believe he isn’t worth that!

  9. Karras71 says:
    June 11, 2019 at 10:26 am

    In two years there shouldn’t be anybody left in that front office, at least from a practical standpoint, but as poorly run as this organization is, I suspect there will still be a few.
    ___________

    It’s hard to take this comment seriously when it’s coming from a Lions fan.

  10. Wafflestomp says:
    June 11, 2019 at 10:40 am

    Without actually seeing the hard numbers of this contract, it’s hard to comment either way.
    But with the Vikings already 3 million over the cap in 2020, I’d love to revisit this conversation with you next year, though I’m sure you’ll be posing as someone else by then.
    ——————————————

    The Vikings will be $3 million over this years cap next year? That proves you have no clue what you’re talking about. Or maybe you’re such a genius you can tell me what the cap will be next year.

  11. I actually enjoy reading the ill-informed comments from people saying the Vikings can’t make any moves because they’ve mismanaged the salary cap. Then the Vikings just keep signing player after player after player. So the comments change to “wait ’til next year! You’ll have to cut everybody!” Nope. The Vikings have always been great at structuring contracts so there aren’t big guarantees due near the end of the contract. They always have flexibility. They can easily move on from players that are no longer worth the money and they can extend players that they want to keep. Maybe they didn’t sign some big-money free agent offensive lineman, but who did you want them to get? I didn’t notice a lot of great offensive linemen on the market that were worth the money they got. I’d much rather build the line through the draft, which is what they wound up doing.

  12. Read Vikings talk irv the daily Norseman or quotes from Zim after games which state everything you need to know about Elflein. I’m not making this stuff up. It’s all facts.

  13. vikesfansteve says:
    June 11, 2019 at 10:40 am

    Revamped O-line. New zone blocking scheme. 2 TE set. Talent at every spot except WR3, still anchored to Treadwell. I’m telling you the league will not be to stop them.
    _________

    Unless that league has a team that’s .500 or better.
    Are you serious with this post?

    Two TE sets??? Everybody runs two TE sets and half of those run zone blocking schemes, do you have the talent, the athletic linemen to run it effectively is the real question?

    None of what you posted would lead anyone to believe that anything is going to change from last season.
    Talent at every spot?
    This is basically the exact same roster that got you 8-7-1 last season and 1-6 against teams with a .500 record or better last year.

  14. I’m surprised they were able to sign him. Would Rudolph have gotten that much had they released him? I’m sure Vikings fans say he’s worth every penny but had they cut him they would have said he wasn’t worth the money. Looks like this is a win-win for both parties but I can’t see him being there all four years given they just drafted his eventual replacement.

  15. Wafflestomp says:
    June 11, 2019 at 11:42 am

    This is basically the exact same roster that got you 8-7-1 last season and 1-6 against teams with a .500 record or better last year.
    _____________

    You like to talk about the Vikings being 1-6 against teams with a winning record. You don’t talk as much about the Packers being 1-5-1 against teams with a winning record. The Packers were 5-4 against teams with a losing record while the Vikings were 7-1-1 against teams with a losing record. Maybe you should worry about your own team beating the teams that they should beat before you worry about who the Vikings are beating.

    By the way, the Packers’ record against winning teams includes two Viking games. The Vikings’ record against winning teams didn’t include any Packer games.

  16. Wafflestomp says:
    Vikings already 3 million over the cap in 2020

    ———————————-
    It’s one thing to be tight against the cap because you have done a good job drafting and have extended your quality pick like the Vikings have. It’s another thing to be tight against the cap because you have done a horrible job drafting over a several year stretch and have to overpay for several free agents just to field a team

    The Vikings front office hasn’t paid for career years and have often extended players a year before that making them much more cost effective than the FA market. That gives the Vikings plenty of cap flexibility and positional strength to cut a player like Griffen and trade someone like Rhodes to create 21.5 million in cap space next year… maybe Joseph too if he has another down year(10 million in savings). That’s enough to resign the 3-4 FA’s on our team that matter (Harris, Waynes, Alexander and Weatherly) without losing too much on D… the rest of the core is locked in through 2021 and beyond.

    But, it’s inevitable that the Vikings may lose a couple of guys they would prefer to retain to FA. That’s why the draft has supplemental picks.

    Now, let’s take a look GB’s cap room in 2020. They currently only have 15 million in cap space with 49 players under contract and 40+ FA’s next year including key contributors like Daniels, Fackrell, Bulaga, Crosby, Martinez, Spriggs, Lowry, Williams, etc… YIKES! That looks like the team in more cap trouble to me.

  17. Waffle, you know you really don’t like the Packers chances this year when your argument revolves around “possible” trouble for the Vikings years from the current season

  18. Karras71 says:
    June 11, 2019 at 10:26 am
    In two years there shouldn’t be anybody left in that front office, at least from a practical standpoint, but as poorly run as this organization is, I suspect there will still be a few.
    ————–
    A Lions fan talking about a poorly run organization that is hilarious.

  19. Liberalsruineverything says:
    June 11, 2019 at 10:12 am

    The comments about the Vikings being in “cap hell” are getting more comical after each player that gets signed.

    +++++++

    Would you prefer we use “talent hell”?

  20. Liberalsruineverything says:
    June 11, 2019 at 11:28 am
    Wafflestomp says:
    June 11, 2019 at 10:40 am

    Without actually seeing the hard numbers of this contract, it’s hard to comment either way.
    But with the Vikings already 3 million over the cap in 2020, I’d love to revisit this conversation with you next year, though I’m sure you’ll be posing as someone else by then.
    ——————————————

    The Vikings will be $3 million over this years cap next year? That proves you have no clue what you’re talking about. Or maybe you’re such a genius you can tell me what the cap will be next year.
    ___________

    It’s very easy to verify, just view any of the current cap sites available.
    It’s based on the projected increase of next year’s salary cap, against the amount of guarantees already owed to players under contract.

    Your own hometown newspaper even reported the exact same figures in a recent article about the team’s financial woes.
    But, then again, they dubbed Minneapolis, Loserville, based on the Vikings overall disappointing history.
    So I’m sure you have biased feelings about that as well.

  21. vikesfansteve says:
    June 11, 2019 at 11:41 am

    Read Vikings talk irv the daily Norseman or quotes from Zim after games which state everything you need to know about Elflein. I’m not making this stuff up. It’s all facts.
    __________

    Give me a Zimmer quote. If I google “Zimmer Elflein,” I get nothing like what you’re saying. Mostly I get articles about Elflein having shoulder and ankle surgery and missing the start of the season. Please explain why missing an entire offseason should not affect how a guy plays. Elflein was good as a rookie and had a rough season last year, but it was understandable. He graded out higher as a guard than a center when he was in college. If Zimmer thinks Elflein lacks physicality, toughness, intensity, and awareness, why is he counting on him to start at left guard?

  22. Karras71 says:
    June 11, 2019 at 10:26 am
    In two years there shouldn’t be anybody left in that front office, at least from a practical standpoint, but as poorly run as this organization is, I suspect there will still be a few.
    ————————————

    Lions fan talking smack (sigh). Sad really…..

  23. harrisonhits2

    Per overthecap the Vikes now have 1.129 million in cap space.
    ###

    The current OTC #s don’t reflect Rudolph’s new contract yet. Once they update it with the new contract data, the number will increase.

    That was the whole reason for the extension.

    Thanks for your concern…

  24. Rob Brzezinski is a Magician says:
    June 11, 2019 at 12:03 pm
    Wafflestomp says:
    June 11, 2019 at 11:42 am

    This is basically the exact same roster that got you 8-7-1 last season and 1-6 against teams with a .500 record or better last year.
    _____________

    You like to talk about the Vikings being 1-6 against teams with a winning record. You don’t talk as much about the Packers being 1-5-1 against teams with a winning record.
    ____________

    No, I don’t.

    But, you don’t hear me or other Packer fans talking about how talent laden our team is, or how dominant our team is on every PFT story.
    I realize you hate to admit it, but our teams were much more similar last season than you’d care to own.
    Two games separated them, one if you take an honest and unbiased look at Week 2.

    The difference is, Green Bay took drastic steps, the last two offseasons, to their front office as well as the roster, where there is, at the very least, 7 new starters and several new fringe players who’ll contribute a great deal.

    Meanwhile the Vikings have willingly courted the status quo, keeping all of the same decision makers in place, as well as overpaying for much of the same talent that contributed to their 8-7-1 record last season.
    Listen, I understand your apprehension in embracing the truth.
    It must be extremely frustrating to put things off for yet another year.

    Whether any of these big changes in Green Bay will be effective in the short or the long run is anyone’s guess. (Though I’m already sure what your uninformed opinion will be.)
    But, Packer fans have reason to be cautiously optimistic with these changes, and the financial state of the team still allows for roster flexibility over the next several years,
    Unfortunately for the Barneys, as it stands right now, they are mired in a financial and talentless quagmire, and should expect more of the same from their team.

  25. $9M a year is a lot, but as noted above, this is basically a 2 year deal for 2019 and 2020 — good for both sides. This deal also gives the team flexibility in future years.

    The comments above on available cap space may be correct, as is the concept of creating cap hell by kicking the can down the road; however, the latter really doesn’t apply to the Vikes. The Rudolph deal creates flexibility and no guaranteed dough after 2020. Moreover, the other recent larger contracts are to young players who will remain with the team during the guaranteed portion of their contracts, also not resulting in dead money. The did renegotiated with Kendricks this year to convert salary to bonus, and that resulted in $400K/yr can kicking, but that amount is miniscule NFL-wise.

    The Vikes are tight to the cap, which is a problem that teams have that draft well — nothing to be ashamed of here. It’s not like they are paying a TE over $10M/yr because he was really good 5 years ago when Drew Brees was his QB.

  26. Wow, packer fans (waffle) still crying about week 2 of last year. It’s funny they never address the exact same call was made against Kendricks that turned a stop into a packers scoring drive. Or the gift they received in the bad call against San Fran which would have made them only a 5 win team.

  27. Waffles says

    The difference is, Green Bay took drastic steps, the last two offseasons, to their front office as well as the roster, where there is, at the very least, 7 new starters and several new fringe players who’ll contribute a great deal.
    ###

    The most drastic step was Rodgers deciding to get his HC fired, but that should be considered a negative, not a positive. The new starters were a desperate move based on the poor drafting done in recent years.

    Bottom line, the Packers were worse in 2017 than they were in 2016 and worse yet in 2018.

    If, and I repeat, if they improve in 2019 it’s only because it would be difficult to be much worse.

    It’s difficult to fathom how you can say the Vikings have “willingly courted the status quo” when they let Keenum, Bradford and Bridgewater go last year.

    They did the exact opposite by going after a QB that was healthy and had more talent than his predecessors.

    Our downfall last season was the Oline and we addressed that with one FA and 3 draft picks this offseason.

    Carry on…

  28. Wafflestomp says:
    “The Vikings have willingly courted the status quo”
    “Green Bay took drastic steps, the last two offseasons”
    ——————————————-
    The Vikings are 21-10-1 over the past 2 years. I think most fan bases would be ok with 11 victories and a playoff birth. But, if the Vikings finished behind the Packers 3 out of the last 4 years… I would be looking for wholesale changes too.

    I get why the Packers fans need to hope that shake-ups are good. Typically new front office, new coaches, new players, new schemes with an aging QB signals a declining and futile period for football team.

  29. harrisonhits2 says:
    June 11, 2019 at 10:26 am
    “The comments about the Vikings being in “cap hell” are getting more comical after each player that gets signed. ”

    Per overthecap the Vikes now have 1.129 million in cap space. That essentially leaves them no room for in season maneuvers and signings so you better hope nobody important gets injured.
    ——
    Right because if somebody gets injured during the season there is a pool of unpaid talent just waiting to be picked up?

  30. Wafflestomp says:
    June 11, 2019 at 1:13 pm

    Meanwhile the Vikings have willingly courted the status quo, keeping all of the same decision makers in place, as well as overpaying for much of the same talent that contributed to their 8-7-1 record last season.
    _________

    Well, they have a new offensive coordinator and they added Gary Kubiak as Associate Head Coach. I’m sorry we didn’t fire our GM and head coach like you guys have, but the record doesn’t really warrant that, does it?

    The same talent that was 8-7-1 last season was 13-3 the previous season. Am I supposed to be impressed that you added a few free agents to your team that is 13-18-1 the last two years? Whatever happened to building through the draft. I guess now the only way to improve talent is to overpay for players that their previous team didn’t want.

  31. RMoss84HOF says:
    June 11, 2019 at 1:40 pm
    Wow, packer fans (waffle) still crying about week 2 of last year. It’s funny they never address the exact same call was made against Kendricks that turned a stop into a packers scoring drive. Or the gift they received in the bad call against San Fran which would have made them only a 5 win team.
    _____________

    Nobody’s crying about anything.
    I’m simply trying to illustrate how similar our teams were last season, while the Barneys like to pretend they were far more dominant.

    As for the plays mentioned in Week 2, one play would have, and should have, ended the game in the Packers favor.
    While the Kendricks play, which you referred to, still would have resulted in a first down for the Packers, as there were two defensive penalties on that particular play.
    But, then again, don’t let the facts get in the way of your biased argument.
    Enjoy your team, as it was last season.

  32. RMoss84HOF says:
    June 11, 2019 at 1:40 pm
    Wow, packer fans (waffle) still crying about week 2 of last year.
    —–
    And while it was a bad call I still enjoy hearing them cry about it knowing the call was a direct result of Rodgers whining. And when the same bad call was made on a viking in a prior preseason game that year the cheese eaters were cheering for that rule and loving it. Oh the irony Oh the humor!

  33. It’s going to be very enjoyable watching the Vikings crash and burn this season and listening to their dumb fans continue to defend this team.

  34. Yes, you got me, the Lions organization has been piss poor for generations. So what?
    We can’t have an opinion about other teams in the league.
    At least Lion fans aren’t dumb enough to pretend we have the same historical significance or success as the Packers. You guys sound so ridiculous when you try to go toe to toe with the Packer fans. They Trump you every time.
    Quite honestly, your team isn’t very good either. You can pretend all you like, but sooner or later, reality is going to hit, and then the excuses are going to fly.
    And on a final note, the Lions have the same amount of Super Bowl wins as the Vikings, so get off your high horse.

  35. Packer fans are so dillusional, another season where they will complain as they finish last in the division!

  36. Karras71 says:
    June 11, 2019 at 3:55 pm
    Yes, you got me, the Lions organization has been piss poor for generations.
    ———————————

    Sheesh, tell us how you really feel!

  37. It amazes me that so many people understand and know the Vikings cap situation. I just wonder if any of them know how much the national debt is? I mean this is professional sports, the money comes from somewhere, usually from you and me. The More creative you are, the more you can bend the rules without breaking them, the more quality people you can sign. I don’t worry about the cap, they have people who do that. I just root for the Vikings and exercise my right as a fan to second guess every decision before putting my worthless stamp of approval on them. Like this one, you have a enthusiastic thumbs up.

    BTW The national debt is $22 Trillion. If you must worry about money, worry about that.

  38. O for 59 says:
    June 11, 2019 at 2:27 pm
    I’m curious as about who is going to be cut to keep Captain Mediocre at TE.

    Will it be Everson “The Hotel Gunman” Griffin?

    “an individual was threatening to shoot someone if he wasn’t allowed in his room”

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Um, why would anybody be cut? Your losing your football knowledge free.

  39. Waffles says:

    No, I don’t.

    But, you don’t hear me or other Packer fans talking about how talent laden our team is, or how dominant our team is on every PFT story.
    I realize you hate to admit it, but our teams were much more similar last season than you’d care to own.
    ###

    You might not do it as much as some do.

    But you really need to read and comprehend the posts authored by freefromcommonsense.

    And I don’t have to admit anything about our teams being similar last season. One team was in contention for the playoffs until the final gun in the last game of the season.

    The other team fired their coach when they were eliminated with 4 games left to play, a week after they lost to the Vikings in November.

    The Packers were 1 – 4 – 1 in the NFCN. The Vikings were 3 – 2 – 1 in the NFCN.

    One team sucked ass, with a losing record in the division (and got swept by the last place Lions), the NFC and the NFL. The other team had a winning season, in the division and the NFC and the NFL.

  40. Karras71 says:
    June 11, 2019 at 10:26 am
    In two years there shouldn’t be anybody left in that front office, at least from a practical standpoint, but as poorly run as this organization is, I suspect there will still be a few.

    —————————-

    Bahahahhaha!!! A Lions fan trying to make fun of ANY other NFL team by calling them “poorly run” is ironically sad and hilarious at the same time.

  41. Game 2 last year had no bearing on anything for either team. Nobody deserved to win, and nobody deserved to lose.

    But what I find hilarious is the Vikings robbing the Packers of a well-deserved win, and then driving the getaway car straight into a tree!

    Classic Vikings!

  42. COME ON! Last year was a fluke, the O-line lost heart and soul in the death of their line coach right before the season started and then in a (now Fired) Offensive coordinator that thought he didn’t need to follow the organizations commitment to the run, and blatantly ignored his head Coaches instructions. The run game needs patients to be effective. it wears a defense down but you cannot run the ball once or twice on 1st down then give up. Just like any chess match running on 3rd down catches teams by surprise. he had zero concept of that.
    Plus having about the toughest schedule didn’t help matters! This year will see a revamped line and an Offensive coordinator that will have a firm hand on the playbook using the teams strengths.

  43. cellarperformance says

    But what I find hilarious is the Packers robbing the Vikings of a well-deserved win, and then driving the getaway car straight into a tree!
    ###

    Fixed that for.

    6 – 9 – 1 is running straight into a tree.

    A winning record is not.

  44. Game 2 last year had no bearing on anything for either team. Nobody deserved to win, and nobody deserved to lose.

    But what I find hilarious is the Vikings robbing the Packers of a well-deserved win, and then driving the getaway car straight into a tree!

    ——————————–

    So if read the above correctly, the Packers are “nobody” because in sentence 1, “nobody deserved to win” and paraphrasing sentence 2, the Packers were robbed of a well deserved win.

    Therefore, by transitive property….you do the math!

  45. You can just feel it… it’s going to be a good season. Whether we win that long awaited championship or not… I think we’re going to be a tough out for anyone. Bring it!

  46. BearDown44 says:
    June 11, 2019 at 3:42 pm
    It’s going to be very enjoyable watching the Vikings crash and burn this season and listening to their dumb fans continue to defend this team.
    ———-
    The Vikings were 8-7-1. I expect a similar 8-8 season with Cousins. I don’t like him. Hard to crash from 8-7-1.

    The Bears on the other hand are a prime team to crash and burn.
    I think the Bears were a fluke in 2018.

  47. BearDown44
    Jun 11, 2019, 3:42 PM EDT
    It’s going to be very enjoyable watching the Vikings crash and burn this season and listening to their dumb fans continue to defend this team.
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxfx
    Da Bears are coming back to Earth my man. You cannot lead the league again in turnover differential!

  48. Karras71 says:
    June 11, 2019 at 7:33 pm

    Were all the Viking fans in Toronto last night. With all the cheering for an injured player it felt vaguely familiar.
    …….
    Time to cut this kid off. He’s drunk enough.

  49. Karras71 says:

    Were all the Viking fans in Toronto last night. With all the cheering for an injured player it felt vaguely familiar.
    ###

    No, those were Lions fans. Detroit fans are a lot closer to Toronto than MN, Green Bay or Chicago.

  50. Opposing NFL defenses should have nightmares about a Minnesota offense that can put Rudolph, Smith, Adam Thielen, Stephon Diggs, and Dalvin Cook on the field at the same time.

  51. gtodriver says:
    June 11, 2019 at 7:11 pm
    6 – 9 – 1 is running straight into a tree. A winning record is not.
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    This can’t be spun. In that game, on that day, after securing an undeserved position-to-win and virtually rob the Packers, yes, the Vikings ran their get-away car straight into a tree. Yes they did.

  52. So you’re saying it’s never the player’s fault if they leave? The salary cap gets in the way? WRONG!! There is no law in America that says you have to take the job that pays the most money. Rudolph has made millions of dollars in salary, and who knows how many more millions in endorsements. He could play for $10/hour and not have financial problems. I understand that the owners are billionaires, etc, but the salary cap is real and has to be taken in to account by both team and player. I’m just sick and tired of this mindset that it’s never on the player when they leave because of money. Anthony Barr is a perfect example of someone with his priorities straight. He wanted to say with the Vikings, so he took less cash. Rudolph can do the same thing anytime he wants. Players that say they want to retire with a team, etc. etc. and then leave and blame money are completely full of crap!!

  53. vikesfansteve says:
    June 12, 2019 at 8:24 am
    Opposing NFL defenses should have nightmares about a Minnesota offense that can put Rudolph, Smith, Adam Thielen, Stephon Diggs, and Dalvin Cook on the field at the same time.
    ______________

    Why would any defenses have nightmares over the same NFL ranked 20th offense from last year?
    Are you being sarcastic?

  54. Waffles says

    Why would any defenses have nightmares over the same NFL ranked 20th offense from last year?
    ###

    Because it’s NOT the same offense as last year.

    That was the point that you obviously failed to comprehend.

    Besides the addition of Smith, we allowed some offensive turnstiles to leave and added 3 Olineman in the draft and 1 in FA.

  55. Because it’s NOT the same offense as last year.
    That was the point that you obviously failed to comprehend.
    Besides the addition of Smith, we allowed some offensive turnstiles to leave and added 3 Olineman in the draft and 1 in FA.

    ++++++++++

    So you are depending upon Josh Kline and 3 rookie draft picks on the on-line to vault the 20th ranked offense into the land of nightmares?

    Seems likes a stretch.

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