Kirk Cousins: I’m a .500 quarterback, that’s not where you want to be

AP

The late Al Davis is credited with coining the phrase “just win, baby,” but a current NFL quarterback may be borrowing it as his motto for the 2019 season.

Vikings quarterback Kirk Cousins discussed his place in the NFL landscape on Wednesday and he noted that his standing would look different if his teams posted better records. Washington and Minnesota are a combined 32-30-2 over his four full years as a starter and Cousins believes that needs to change for him to be seen in a more positive light.

“I think [getting to] the next level really is all about winning,” Cousins said, via Chris Tomasson of the Pioneer Press. “I’m pretty much a .500 quarterback in my career so far and I don’t think that’s where you want to be and that’s not why you are brought in or people are excited about you.”

Cousins said the narrative will be that he went to the next level if the team does well even if he doesn’t post “gaudy statistics.” The need to win games can’t be disputed, although doing it in spite of Cousins’ play seems like an unlikely way for the Vikings to get back to the postseason.

81 responses to “Kirk Cousins: I’m a .500 quarterback, that’s not where you want to be

  1. Kirk Cousins is a great QB and even better leader. The problem has been the turnstile that the Vikings call an O-Line. Once they fix the O-Line, the wins and postseason will come with Captain Kirk leading the way

  2. Cousins gets a lot of hate but he’s never been on a really good team, either. Only the Texans and Cardinals had worse OL play last year and much of the time the Vikings didn’t even bother trying to run the football. So he’s right. His stats don’t need to improve; his team has to win more games. That will happen with a running game and better OL play.

  3. I like and respect Cousins personally, but given the talent (and salaries) on this team, they are perennial underperformers.

  4. Eli Manning has a career win % of 51.2% and yet he is revered in New York. You really only need to get really lucky a couple times and it changes the perception.

  5. Good of him to acknowledge that. But honestly, the guy got too much blame for last year. The OL was a mess and we once again had kicking issues. The defense also got off to a bad start. The entire team needs to step it up. Thank God we get to play the Lions and Packers twice.

  6. “You really only need to get really lucky a couple times and it changes the perception.” You don’t get to two super bowls and win them by being lucky. You don’t get two Super Bowl MVPs by being lucky. You get there by showing up at crunch time.

    Vikings knew Cousins’ record was .500 when they paid him guaranteed $84M bucks.

  7. “Cousins gets a lot of hate but he’s never been on a really good team, either. ” Wasn’t he supposed to be the missing piece on the team that tanked against the Eagles early 2018?

  8. Kirk had to play alot of those games with the skins though. He is pretty good… has those inexplicable bad games that prove costly though. That will be his legacy.

  9. Unimpressed with Cousins so far, but impressed at him owning it. Can only go up from here…and maybe achieve the level of Case Keenum.

  10. Kirk knows it. The rest of the NFL knows it. Most fans know it. Vikings fans and the team still think Kirk is the next coming of Joe Montana.

  11. I know there are a handful of teams that would take his 30 TD and only 10 int, including the one I root for.

    But this is further proof that you are never “just one player away” in the NFL. When you find that player, the next year your team springs other leaks.

  12. thegreatjimbrown says:
    June 12, 2019 at 2:18 pm
    Profootball reference shows him as 34-37 -2. That’s not .500.
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    “I’m pretty much a .500 quarterback in my career so far and I don’t think that’s where you want to be and that’s not why you are brought in or people are excited about you.”

    It “pretty much” is to go by the quote in the article.

  13. Skins fan here. He’s good until crunch time then comes the int or pick 6. That’s the reason the Skins didn’t want to pay him.

  14. thegreatjimbrown says:
    June 12, 2019 at 2:18 pm
    Profootball reference shows him as 34-37 -2. That’s not .500.

    4-25 against teams with winning records. That’s .136 Kirk.

  15. “Cousins gets a lot of hate but he’s never been on a really good team, either. ”

    They didn’t pay him that kind of cash to be a game manager. They paid him to make the Vikings a better team. Which he did not. And let’s not kid anyone. If he started the NFC title game against the Eagles instead of Keenum, the Vikings would have lost 38-10 instead of 38-7.

  16. Contrary to what many cheesers like the one above may contend, most Vikings fans will acknowledge that Cousins is an average NFL QB, with a ceiling probably as an above average (not elite) NFL QB. At this point I would like to see the guy win a big game for a change. Hopefully the O-line will improve this year. If it does, and he still doesn’t win, those who say he isn’t even an average NFL QB will be proved correct.

  17. He is correct and great reflection about himself. Much much better to see this attitude going forward rather than cracking jokes about ignoring coaches and getting them fired.

  18. >>Cousins said the narrative will be that he went to the next level if the team does well even if he doesn’t post “gaudy statistics.”

    Huh?
    If he has a so-so year, but the team gets to the playoffs, he has not risen to the next level, he’s ridden the back of the team.

    He’s an ok QB, he is not a bad QB. But to go deep in the playoffs requires more, or it requires less pay for a slightly above average QB.

  19. Kirk has the stats that would imply he is a Top 10 QB. He has the number of wins that proves he is not top 10.

    I personally think he lacks the “It Factor”. The swagger. The confidence. He’s all brains and not enough balls.

  20. Well, at least he is finally figuring it out.

    Winning > $84 fully guaranteed contract.

    Well done Kirk.

  21. Flacco,Dilfer,Brad Johnson,Simms,McMahon,Hostetler they were SB champion QB’s . None of these guys were elite, so if they can do it so can Cousins. Has Cousins been great nope but to say the Vikings can’t win with him is absurd.It has been proven time and time again you don’t need an elite QB to win a Super Bowl.

  22. Great QBs can carry a team through the highs and lows of the long season and win in the playoffs……Cousins is not that guy and had proven that before he got paid…..

  23. I remember when Michigan State let this guy deliver a motivational speech to their basketball team heading into the final 4.

    And they promptly got whupped by Texas Tech.

    What a leader.

  24. Kurt Cousins as they called him in DC throws a beautiful ball, and is super accurate. Yet he fails under pressure like a Tony Romo. The dude has never won anything.

  25. He was the best thing to happen for the NFC North. Have a team over pay for a QB that has never beat a winning team.

  26. fmc651 says:
    June 12, 2019 at 3:04 pm
    Flacco,Dilfer,Brad Johnson,Simms,McMahon,Hostetler they were SB champion QB’s . None of these guys were elite, so if they can do it so can Cousins. Has Cousins been great nope but to say the Vikings can’t win with him is absurd.It has been proven time and time again you don’t need an elite QB to win a Super Bowl.

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    The QBs you named didn’t eat up as much of the cap as Cousins did. They came cheap so they could pay for great players around them. Vikings are getting old and now have cap issues. The window for them to compete closed last year.

  27. With Kubiak at the helm & the upgraded Oline and a finally healthy Cook. Thielan Diggs Rudolph Smith Cook & Cousins who had 20 red zone TD’s last year 0 int’s. The Vikings are loaded. The defense needs to create more turnovers this year. The Dline needs to return to form. Rhodes needs to play better. They’ll be good.

  28. ricko1112 says:
    June 12, 2019 at 2:08 pm
    You are what you’re record says you are…

    P.S. You’re lucky to even be .500…

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    You are what your record says you are… unless you aren’t.

  29. And yet the Redskins let Mr average go, to sign another Mr Average. Puzzling. I guess the average you don’t know is better than the average you know?

  30. At least he’s honest. He truly is an average .500 quarterback but he still got a guaranteed $ 28 million a year from the Vikings. Somehow Vikings fans believe .500 winning percentage will win them a super bowl. Go figure.

  31. BuckyBadger says:
    June 12, 2019 at 3:24 pm
    He was the best thing to happen for the NFC North. Have a team over pay for a QB that has never beat a winning team.
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    He’s undefeated against the Packers

  32. Social Disease says:
    June 12, 2019 at 2:17 pm
    No you’re an $84,000,000 .500 quarterback
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    And Aaron Rodgers just got an 164 million extension for being a .375 QB last year

  33. Last season, 30 touchdowns and 4,000+ yards. Those aren’t good stats and he isn’t a good quarterback. PLEASE!

  34. Profootball reference shows him as 34-37 -2. That’s not .500.

    ====

    Read carefully. Article states as a full time starter. He’s come in RG3 was injured and started the last couple games or something one season. He’s just talking his 3 years as the full starter in Washington and the 1 year here. However that number will be more like 40-38-2 after this season

  35. Redskins were, are a terrible team. Revamped OL in MN is removing excuses. With improved OL play it’s on the QB this year.

  36. The NFC East misses Cousins, and Romo.

    Thankfully the replacements are even worse. Unlike Dallas and Washington the Giants were unable to downgrade at Qb.

    Hence another season of Eli checkdowns, sacks, ints and pick sixes.

  37. Don’t worry, Cousin Kurt. Playing for the Vikings will change that you are a .500 QB, for sure. You’ll probably be more like a .400 QB from now on.

  38. All the Vikings need is for this guy to do something he’s never done. And a linebacker that doesn’t stink in coverage. And a RB that isn’t glass. And a CB that doesn’t hold on every play. And wide receiver depth. Oh…and a better GM. And an offensive line that isn’t as offensive. And another safety after Smith. Wow. And a TE that doesn’t get tackled by grass in the open field.

    So that’s actually quite a bit.

    But if they get all that: LOOK OUT!!

  39. BuckyBadger says:
    June 12, 2019 at 3:24 pm
    He was the best thing to happen for the NFC North. Have a team over pay for a QB that has never beat a winning team.
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    He’s 4-1-1 against the Packers but that doesn’t really help disprove your point about beating winning teams.

  40. Case Keenum gave the Vikings their best performance at QB this decade, in large part because he played with gusto, and didn’t expect that he could be stationary in the pocket. That was Cousin’s biggest problem last year; the instant a pass rusher beat a block, Cousins was usually toast.

    This season will be make or break for Cousins, as well as Spielman and Zimmer. I hope he turns over a new leaf.

  41. As the season goes on & if they keep improving, that will show the revamped o-line & coaching additions are working. I always like to watch a team’s momentum going through December & whether they have the team depth to handle any injuries. Skol Vikes.

  42. defscottyb says:
    June 12, 2019 at 2:36 pm
    Skins fan here. He’s good until crunch time then comes the int or pick 6. That’s the reason the Skins didn’t want to pay him.
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    The last time the Skins played in “crunch time”, Cousins was a pre-teen.

  43. I’m sure Kirk wants to play well to justify the huge salary the Vikings gave him. But, you have to blame the Vikings execs for this mistake. Kirk never showed he could consistently win big games at Washington.

  44. But the big question remains, will the $110 million dollar, so-called ‘Greatest QB of all-time” Aaron Rodgers finally lead the Packers to at least a .500 record and better than a third place finish in the NFC North for the first time in three years?

  45. The Vikings brass (as many fans did also) thought that all Cousins needed was a better supporting cast to succeed. He sort of got it except for the O-line had injuries and no decent depth & therefore could have been better. He’s in his 2nd year adjusting to the team, has hopefully a better O-line & hopefully a better offensive coaching staff. That’s see what happens this coming season. Skol Vikes.

  46. This is the biggest REACH in Vikings QB history, If he falls flat this year, Zimmer and Spielman will probably be falling with him. Then there will be a massive retooling, Sounding more familiar than I want to admit!

  47. I think most of us Vikings fans realized that Kirk’s average was Keenum’s Ceiling. Keenum was the quarterback in 2017, but the defense led the Vikings to the 13-3 record. I agree that Kirk is a middle of the road quarterback and I think we got what we expected out of him last year. I don’t think we got the same defense in 2018 that we did in 2017. Kirk throws better than Keenum, but Keenum’s mobility helped hide the holes in the poor offensive line. The team acknowledged a weakness at OL going into 2018 but did nothing to address it, they got exposed for it. We can expect a 8-8 record this year if all remains the same. Only time can tell in the NFL.

  48. I’m sure Kirk wants to play well to justify the huge salary the Vikings gave him. But, you have to blame the Vikings execs for this mistake. Kirk never showed he could consistently win big games at Washington.
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    Kirk didn’t have talent around him to succeed in Washington. In theory, he has the talent around him now. I’ll forgive a bad year in his first year in MN. All judgement goes away if he wins big games this year. That said, great teams beat good teams. If Kirk doesn’t show up, the rest of the team has to.

  49. Rob Brzezinski is a Magician says:

    June 12, 2019 at 6:05 pm

    Cousins may have a lot of room for improvement, but you can’t deny that he had more wins and better stats than Aaron Rodgers last year.

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    It would be more impressive if he played with a broken leg and a knee brace for eight games, another two with a strained hamstring, and missed yet another in concussion protocol.

  50. One of my fav commentator lines from last season came from Joe Buck during the Bears Vikings game when Kirk Cousins had a huge temper tantrum towards his WR’s for the whole world to see.

    Joe Buck:

    “Boy, there is a lot of stress down there on that sideline”

    😂😂😂😂😂

    Poor Barney

  51. Only the Vikings would offer $84 million guaranteed to a .500 QB. It defies logic but then again, there are solid reasons why the Vikings have never won a Superbowl and this year isn’t looking too good either.

  52. defscottyb says:
    June 12, 2019 at 2:36 pm
    Skins fan here. He’s good until crunch time then comes the int or pick 6. That’s the reason the Skins didn’t want to pay him.

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    Skins didn’t want to pay him? They paid him an average of 22M per year for 2 years under the franchise tag, and offered him another 72 over 3 years that he turned down.

  53. It’s funny to see all the packer trolls here talking about the $ cousins makes when they paid their QB about as much in the last calendar year as cousins whole deal and they would be tickled if he could get back to being a .500 QB.

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