Chandler Jones still motivated by trade from Patriots

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Chandler Jones‘ 41 sacks over the past three seasons are more than any other NFL player.

Jones is among the best pass rushers in the game, even if one statistical site left him off its list of top-50 players. The Cardinals pass rusher likely will carry that as a chip on his shoulder into this season.

Jones, 29, hasn’t yet forgotten the Patriots traded him three years ago, though he understands it was a business decision.

“I feel like at any time I can be traded,” Jones said, via Kyle Odegard of the team website. “It might sound bizarre to say, but I’m someone who has been in that situation. I’ve been traded before and that little sense of rejection is a crappy feeling, honestly. That’s what drives me. That’s what motivates me. I never want to get traded again.”

Jones, who signed a five-year, $82.5 million extension in 2017, is on the move from defensive end to outside linebacker. The scheme, the position, nothing seems to faze Jones. He just continues to produce with four consecutive seasons of double-digit sacks.

“It’s not about getting double-digit sacks,” Jones said. “The big thing is just being consistent. Speaking from a coach’s perspective, you want a player that’s consistent. You want a player that you know what you’re going to get day in and day out, on and off the field. A lot of that gives credit to some of my numbers, and hopefully I can stay consistent.”

32 responses to “Chandler Jones still motivated by trade from Patriots

  1. “I feel like at any time I can be traded,” Jones said, via Kyle Odegard of the team website. “It might sound bizarre to say, but I’m someone who has been in that situation. I’ve been traded before and that little sense of rejection is a crappy feeling, honestly.
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    I like Jones but LOL @ Chandler’s “rejection.”

    If he had been willing to stay with the Pats over five years for around $11 million per year and $30 million guaranteed he probably does not get “rejected”.

    Chandler was not rejected, his agent priced him out of town. And the poor Pats have suffered dearly only winning two of the three Super Bowls they have played in since they “rejected” Chandler; with lots of help from Joe Thuney in all three Super Bowl appearances, and two wins, and Malcolm Mitchell in one Super Bowl win..

  2. I bet it’s a huge chip but its on him he went off the rails got shipped out and sees the pats keep winning super bowls but in the end he cashed in so it could have been wosre.

  3. He is mediocre vs double teams and/or stronger quality at the Tackle spot.

    And, he’s full of crap saying what he said. If he wasn’t so concerned about being paid the most and using sacks to justify it, he’d still be in NE.

    BB fleeced the Cardinals and Jones was one guy who sent them in to cap hell, along with Fitzgerald, Palmer, Mathieu, Calais Campbell, etc.

    The Pats got Thuney (one of the best) and Malcolm Mitchell and won 2 SBs playing in 3.

    BB will say goodbye to Thuney, as he will cash in and their rookie Guard from Arkansas will restart the process, with NE never going into a cap hell.

    These kinds of players are full of it and are not serious about winning a ring.

    He made his choice with his outlandish salary demands.

  4. If the Patsies didn’t trade him, maybe they get past Philly. Maybe they don’t let Matt Ryan run it up on them in the first half.

    Cardinals certainly got the better end of that trade, regardless of the weak-kneed explanations their homers will offer up.

  5. That’s bunk that he can’t pay the run. He’s a great edge player. Some of my fellow Pats fans can’t help but to feel jilted even if the team doesn’t offer a contract to a player exiting the franchise. You can’t pay them all. Especially the ones that are going to command top dollar. Some of those guys you gotta let go. Anyway…

    I wonder if Chandler is now the most famous of the three Jones brothers?

  6. Yeah… Chandler is not bad against the run, not at all, and his PFF grades on the exact same stat, bear that out.

    There was no “Fleecing” of the Cardinals in this deal, thats innacurate.

    Chandler Jones has been an excellent player in Arizona, and obviously the Patriots have had success.

    The Patriots have had more success, however Chandler Jones has been far and away the best player involved.

    No “Fleecing” in that trade at all.

  7. cakesw says:
    June 14, 2019 at 4:00 pm
    Yeah… Chandler is not bad against the run, not at all, and his PFF grades on the exact same stat, bear that out.

    There was no “Fleecing” of the Cardinals in this deal, thats innacurate.

    Chandler Jones has been an excellent player in Arizona, and obviously the Patriots have had success.

    The Patriots have had more success, however Chandler Jones has been far and away the best player involved.

    No “Fleecing” in that trade at all.

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    The Pats have been to 3 SBs, winning 2 since they stole draft picks to help win those rings, keep costs down and ditch a one dimensional, selfish phony who smoked synthetic weed like an idiot and thought he was better than he was.

    Yes, it’s a fleecing.

    Arizona has been in cap hell ever since, too.

    Yes. A fleecing.

    You either know the core fundamentals as a GM in teambuilding or you don’t. BB fleeced Keim.

    Period.

  8. I haven’t seen enough of their games to comment on his specific play there. I think his incident with the police may have played almost as much of a part in this trade as potential salary demands.

    AZ may have won this specific trade talent wise, but I think this trade, like Jamie Collins was about big picture. As noted above, the Patriots have continued to win without them.

  9. dsigrey says:
    June 14, 2019 at 3:19 pm
    Great at getting sacks, but run right at him and he gets exposed.
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    You mean like every other edge rusher in the NFL? Those guys are there to get sacks.

  10. The Pats had to make a business decision on who to keep….and who to trade. The $$$ was not going to allow them to re-sign everybody. If nothing else, the Pats have demonstrated they know how to manage the roster and they have won two Super Bowls since he’s been gone.

  11. What’s wrong with calling a trade a win-win. Jones is one of the best pass rushers in the NFL and is happy there. Fine. Pats got Thuney and Mitchell, and had money to trade for MBennett’s contract and pay Chris long. Fine.

  12. El Guapo says:
    June 14, 2019 at 3:39 pm

    Cardinals certainly got the better end of that trade, regardless of the weak-kneed explanations their homers will offer up.
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    Pats won two SuperBowls since the trade. If they don’t make the trade maybe they win as many as the Cardinals with him. Players impact the field AND the locker-room. Simple-minded fans of the NFL like you forget that.

  13. Exactly…

    The Patriots apparently “Fleeced” the Cardinals by trading Chandler Jones…

    For Joe Thuney…

    Thats it… thats all the Patriots and thier “Fleecing” have to show for the Chandler Jones teade…

    All of the other elements of that trade made little ( Malcolm Motchell) or No ( Jonathan Cooper) impact on the New England Patriots.

    No one is denying the Patriots success… no one is denying that they made a good decision.

    But CLEARLY the Cardinals were not “Fleeced” in this deal…

    As a matter of fact… on paper… it looks pretty bad for the Patriots.

    All pro DE for…

    Joe Thuney.

  14. People saying that Arizona got the best player in the trade being discussed are missing the point completely.

    Arizona has gotten: 3 years of a stud DE, and paid ~$51M against the cap.

    New England has gotten: 3 years of a starting LG, 1 year of a #4 WR, and paid ~$3M against the cap over that time.

    Obviously Chandler Jones is a much more valuable player than Joe Thuney. But Thuney has conservatively given NE ~$6M/year play (cost of a good-not-great FA LG on the market) at 750k/year. Jones is conservatively giving ARI ~$17M/year play (cost of a great FA DE on the market) at $17M/year. The gap in surplus value is huge – NE has spent $48M elsewhere instead of Jones over those 3 years.

    The fact that the Patriots made out so well isn’t an indictment of Jones in any way – he’s a high-character dude and a great player. Just the business of football.

  15. exinsidetrader saysf:
    June 14, 2019 at 5:16 pm
    El Guapo says:
    June 14, 2019 at 3:39 pm

    Cardinals certainly got the better end of that trade, regardless of the weak-kneed explanations their homers will offer up.
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    Pats won two SuperBowls since the trade. If they don’t make the trade maybe they win as many as the Cardinals with him. Players impact the field AND the locker-room. Simple-minded fans of the NFL like you forget that
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    And maybe he sees Foles running out the backside for a pattern and picks him up and they win 3 super bowls. Your really saying the Pedriots win less super bowls with a guy who has the most sacks in the last 3 seasons is idiotic.

  16. Then don’t show up on a playoff bye weekend half naked at the local police station high on drugs and maybe !!! Just maybe you won’t get traded!!!! Just a thought !!!!

  17. Arizona fans arent forgetting about the costs involved for Chandler Jones and the players that New England ended up getting.

    We get ALL of that…

    And on multiple occasions we have said that it was the right and smart thing to do if you were New England.

    However…

    The Notion that Arizona got Fleeced in the deal, is the one that is mind numbingly homerish.

    Especially when you consider that afer this year Joe Thuney will be playing for another team, or be a Patriot on a contract considerably higher than that of Chandler Jones.

  18. Not sure the Pats come back against Atlanta without MMitchell. Not sure they win without Marty Bennett when Gronk was down. Thuney is an excellent player that never misses a gm. Refresh my memory.What has Az won?

  19. BB has said time and time again “stats are for losers”. Every year it’s the same thing “Patriots need a pass rusher” and every year it’s “the Patriots again”. When will you haters learn. Look at the pass rushers the Patriots faced last year,. How many sacks they get during the regular season and playoffs? BB wants his players to be much more than a one trick pony. Buy into it or not, your choice. He will let you decide your fate.

  20. Vaphinfan.. Stop… I like tuna fish. Win something sometimes. Don’t put your hopes on beating the Patriots. Your team will never measure up even if they sweep the Patriots. What does mathematically eliminated mean?

  21. So Jones got more sacks with the Cards than the Patriots? But but but I thought Belichick was a genius?

  22. In big picture, it seems like the Pats got the better end of the deal since they won two Super Bowls out of three. But you just know they would’ve liked to have someone like him against the Eagles in the Super Bowl they lost and wasted Brady’s over 500 yard offensive performance. It’s a shame. Well, you can’t win them all…

  23. I think his police station incident made just as much if not more than his contract in the Pats’ decision to let him go. He allowed himself his own exit so he really shouldn’t be salty.

  24. vaphinfan,

    You’re obviously a ‘stats’ guy (like most) but obviously missing the big picture of value/economic’s that’s been the driving force of BB since he became a HC in the salary cap era.

    I’m a Patriots fan and I think we are all with you on CJ – he’s a great player. However, the issue is value.

    First, you need to understand the Patriots don’t value DE’s the same way as the majority of the league because they are coached to be disciplined in our ‘2-gap’ scheme! It’s not about shooting the gap and exploding off the line and chasing the quarterback in a 2-gap … they have to be patient, read & react, setting edges in the run game and bootlegs, as well as playing both gaps. Therefore, no one is going to get the same amount of sacks in the Patriots scheme as the same player going to a 1-gap scheme.

    I think it’s more than strategy. I think every decision BB makes he asks himself “is this going to hurt us or help us in terms of salary cap projections?” I honestly believe he runs the 2-gap to keep players stats low so he can justify the lesser value that comes along with it. I think he likes a quick passing game on offense because you don’t need expensive tackles to throw the ball in 2 seconds. Literally, everything they do is acts like a caveat to having a better economic situation.

    They also have less competition for certain players because the guys they are looking for (smart, multiple, passionate) are less desirable for other teams who largely prioritize talent and scheme-fit first and foremost.

    Lastly, it’s not just about the CJ decision, it’s about all of the organizations decision’s that make up a winning or losing culture. Trade for trade, the Cardinals got a hell of a player but the Patriots got a few good players and the surplus in economic’s have allowed for many other decisions being made on the Patriots’ team building paradigm.

    The Cardinals have made horrible decisions (fact) since 2016, while the Patriots have been making all their decisions based on what’s best for the organization in both long term/short term since the 90’s when Kraft bought the team and Tuna was in charge.

    It’s not about talent, it’s about culture, coaching, and economics. You would think more organization’s would have that figured out by now but I think that takes too much work and brainpower for the average football geek. They will instead rely on talent… period. Even when this works out, how many teams actually ‘validate’ their championships with another Super Bowl victory? The Patriots constantly compete for championships because they’re not having to re-load talent for talent in the offseason. They are reloading based on value, culture, and economics!!!

    Everyone else – keep landing those superstars and all the ramifications that come with it (e.g. ego, massive contact’s, etc) and the Patriots will keep doing it the non-traditional way – the Patriot way, the right way!!!

  25. The problem with Jones on the Pats wasn’t his run D or lack of sacks, it was that he piled up the numbers then disappeared once December arrived.

    In any case, we’re on to Chase Winovich.

  26. vaphinfan says:
    June 14, 2019 at 9:11 pm

    So Jones got more sacks with the Cards than the Patriots? But but but I thought Belichick was a genius?
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    The goal in the NFL is to WIN GAMES, not get sacks. Now that you understand the rules maybe you can enjoy the game more and appreciate why the Cards missed the playoffs.

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