What’s next for Tyreek Hill?

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Chiefs receiver Tyreek Hill, as first reported here on Wednesday, spent eight hours meeting with NFL investigators on Wednesday.  So what happens next?

The NFL will continue its investigation, as needed, before making a decision on whether Hill should be disciplined. Unless the information provided by Hill requires follow-up work, the NFL should be prepared to reach a conclusion, given that (as the league explained the protocol in defending the delayed interview of former Chiefs running back Kareem Hunt) the NFL waits to interview the player until the rest of the investigation has concluded.

Once the NFL has the information that it needs, the question becomes whether and to what extent the league will determine that a violation occurred. The nuanced view would entail considering whether and to what extent Hill tells a credible story in a believable way, meshing his verbal explanation with the other evidence in a way that makes the NFL determine that he’s telling the truth and that he’s genuinely contrite, and that he should have little or no punishment. The more practical view would be that the league will do whatever it already wants to do.

On multiple occasions in recent years, NFL investigations have become an exercise in working backward to justify a preordained ending point. If in this case the NFL already has decided that Hill should be suspended for a specific number of games, the investigation will be molded, contorted, and maybe even distorted in a way that leads to that outcome.

That’s the unknown at this point. What does the league want to do? We’ll find out when they do it, and then Hill won’t be able to do much about it. Commissioner Roger Goodell will both issue the discipline and handle the appeal (directly or through a designee). Litigation filed by players like Tom Brady and Ezekiel Elliott has underscored the fact that the NFL has considerable power in these matters, and that there’s not much the player can do about it.

61 responses to “What’s next for Tyreek Hill?

  1. The precedent has been set. He will either be suspended 6 or 8 games. Since there wasn’t enough evidence to convict, I can’t see him getting a year. I think he should be out of the league for beating a woman and child but that won’t happen. Chiefs fans don’t start defending him.

  2. I never played the game, in large part because I’m not a violent person, so my take here is I guess uninformed on some levels…. and I know these are young guys we are talking about here with Hunt and Hill…. but in both of these guys’ cases they are stars in the making on the cusp of huge, generational money…. and they are so helpless in the face of their violence issues that they risk it all in what amounts to fits of rage?! I guess it bears remembering they are basically kids but it just seems sooooo stupid.

  3. The guy choked and punched a pregnant woman in the stomach and then 5 years later threatened her by telling her that, “You should be terrified of me too, bitch.”

    Anything less than a lifetime ban looks so poorly on the Chiefs and the NFL.

  4. harshedmellow says:

    June 27, 2019 at 12:07 pm

    I never played the game, in large part because I’m not a violent person, so my take here is I guess uninformed on some levels…. and I know these are young guys we are talking about here with Hunt and Hill…. but in both of these guys’ cases they are stars in the making on the cusp of huge, generational money…. and they are so helpless in the face of their violence issues that they risk it all in what amounts to fits of rage?! I guess it bears remembering they are basically kids but it just seems sooooo stupid.

    People never look into how a young men or women is raise not everyone is born with a silver spoon and private school & a live in nanny, both parent house hold. Alotta this young men in the NFL way out is the NFL but the trouble upbring is to much to over come. Just look at Kawhi form the raptors he won two championship and the guy hardly cracks a smile and when he does you can clearly see he had to force it, all because some idiot took his father life when he was younger and kawhi still walk around like it just happened yesterday, might be the same situation with Hill who knows how his parent or parents treated him growing up!!!

  5. Chiefs fans do not like this situation one bit, however, wagging your finger in the fans face is disrespectful. The fans had no part in this situation. Our opponents will see that the team isn’t a one trick pony. Mecole Hardman’s talent will surprise the league. Patrick Mahomes spreads the biall around to other receivers and TE. The team will be just fine in my humble opinion. Book it!

  6. The Chiefs fans had nothing to do with Hill’s actions and I can’t believe others implying as if they did. None of the fans are happy about what happened. My point is that with or without Tyreek Hill the Chiefs will be fine.

  7. lscratchingthesurface says:
    June 27, 2019 at 12:25 pm
    Chiefs fans do not like this situation one bit, however, wagging your finger in the fans face is disrespectful. The fans had no part in this situation.
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    Craziness of the comment that KC will somehow still be as dangerous on O w/out Hill {possibly} aside…while I won’t implicate you certainly because I don’t know you, the rush to defend Hill by KC fans on just about every media outlet I saw EVEN AFTER the recordings came out was pretty awful. Classic proof that ‘fandom > all else’ in some peoples’ minds.

  8. Im guessing 4-6 games suspension depending the severity of the other allged transgretions. Hill is a bad bad boy and has bad boy history. This will not end well for him.

  9. Zeke got 6 games on her word against his. With Tyreek there is recoded evidence and a child with a broken arm. Anything less than a year will be his lucky day!

  10. He should be allowed back only after Josh Gordon is allowed back. If Tyreek plays before JG then, well, I can’t even think of words I would use to describe the travesty.

  11. The Chiefs fans had nothing to do with Hill’s actions and I can’t believe others implying as if they did. None of the fans are happy about what happened. My point is that with or without Tyreek Hill the Chiefs will be fine.

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    The Chiefs knew of his background before they acquired him. I know, punching a pregnant woman in the stomach and choking here is SOP in KC. So why not draft him? The ChiefS Have alot of explaining to do regarding their choices of Hunt and Hill.

  12. Florio, you’ve been pushing for them to come to a preordained conclusion since the moment this story broke. You have called him guilty of hurting his kid, even though now it has come out that this notion was quickly dismissed by medical professionals. The audio is all there currently is against the guy, and while it’s awful that he called the mother of his children a B, to call for his banishment over an audio recording between two adults – and without knowing the ins-and-outs of their relationship, is just imbecilic.

  13. Tyreke has dug a hole for himself far beyond any possible suspension. I’m sure there are many other cases out there just not publicly known.

    But I’m assuming he will play again and it’s sad that his black ball isn’t as big as Colin Kaepernick’s. And all Colin did was stand up for what he thought was correct.

  14. He punches 3 year olds, only after they’re forced to spread their arms out so as not to have the ability to defend themselves, to teach them about respect.
    What next? Perhaps incarceration might be appropriate……..

  15. The Chiefs have explaining to do? ROFL!!

    You’re acting like they’re the first team that ever drafted a player with a past. It is very likely that every single team in the league has done so at one point or another. Why? Because talent has always won over character in the NFL and you’d have to be living under a rock to not know that. They owe no explanations to anyone, especially the rabid court of internet opinion.

  16. Maybe the NFL should try a different approach. Any team that wants to employ these guys should have to match his pay to a charity. So Hill would play but 50% of his money and the Cheifs match it dollar for dollar and the money goes to a child abuse charity. The player looses half his money and the team gets to pay another 50% of the players contract. If the player is good enough that a team wants to keep him around then pay up. Maybe make the player put a big red sticker on his helmet like a scarlet letter to boot?

  17. domedaddy says:
    June 27, 2019 at 1:25 pm

    The Chiefs fans had nothing to do with Hill’s actions and I can’t believe others implying as if they did. None of the fans are happy about what happened. My point is that with or without Tyreek Hill the Chiefs will be fine.

    _________
    The Chiefs knew of his background before they acquired him. I know, punching a pregnant woman in the stomach and choking here is SOP in KC. So why not draft him? The ChiefS Have alot of explaining to do regarding their choices of Hunt and Hill.

    ***
    If Sean Payton got a year off for bountygate, then koolaide man out to get 2 years off, 1 for Hunt and 1 For Hill

  18. Riverhorsey says:

    June 27, 2019 at 1:30 pm

    Sounds like a lot of envy noise from fans other than the Chiefs

    Oh totally, remember when they won the SB last year.. oh wait.

  19. “while it’s awful that he called the mother of his children a B, to call for his banishment over an audio recording between two adults – and without knowing the ins-and-outs of their relationship, is just imbecilic.”

    What’s “imbecilic” is defending a serial domestic abuser just because he plays football well and you’re a fan of his game.

  20. This is what happens when you refuse to set strong precedents. Suspend him for one year and then consider reinstatement if he stays clean in that time.

    Next offense – permanent banning.

  21. They’re gonna launch Hill for a year so they can sweep him under the rug to keep the happy face on the 100th season then quietly let him back in for 2020.

  22. If you know all the details of this case and think you’re qualified to be the judge and jury then by all means post your fact based judgement.

  23. “What’s “imbecilic” is defending a serial domestic abuser just because he plays football well and you’re a fan of his game.”
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    No, that’s not it. “Imbecilic” is ignoring facts because they don’t suit your agenda. Lots of that going around these days.

  24. edrooneyjr says:
    June 27, 2019 at 12:29 pm
    8 games reduced to 4-6 on appeal
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    Your prediction is closer to reality than the guy who said life time ban. There were presedences set with prior cases from Adrian Peterson to Ray Rice. Peterson whipped a toddler so bad it left bruises all over the boy’s body. He was suspended 1 season. Ray Rice knocked his fiance out cold. He was given 2 games initially then after public outcry I believe he too was given a 1 year suspension which for all intents and purposes was a life time ban since no team would sign him after his suspension. (This had more to do with his age, the perception that he was declining skill wise, and the fact that younger cheaper RB talent without the baggage is relatively easier to find than other skill positions) It wasn’t based in any morality stance by every NFL team.

    Hill plays a premier position at an elite level with the talent of being perhaps the fastest player in the NFL. And he is still very young. He may get a 1 year suspension or an indefinite suspension with the ability to apply back to the league after a year. And more than likely after that year he is going to get offers…..if the Chiefs even relinquish his rights.
    And if you don’t think that’s about how it will play out then you haven’t been paying attention to the league.

  25. Of course nobody knows the outcome yet. But he deserves some type of punishment. And I’m a season where the NFL will shill “100 YEARS” you have to believe the NFL wants to be nowhere near this. One year ban guaranteed. The league will not want this man’s name brought up in any capacity. Even if he gets clear legally there is enough audio out there plus the college incident where the NFL does not want to celebrate 100 years with Hill involved.

    Plus KC has enough stars to keep KC a very profitable franchise, as in primetime football games with stellar ratings. Mahomes alone moves the needle. But sadly, & unfortunately, I will be targeting Hill in fantasy drafts because his value will be insane in the event he actually plays. Similar to Hunt, where we know when he is available….but for which team? I say trade bait. What happens if Zeke, Barkley or CMC go down? Cleveland gets the call & is offered a 3 that could become a 2.

  26. The NFL needs to change its policy to completely suspending a player from the NFL rather than pressuring a team to cut a player – only to be resigned by another team a la Kareem Hunt/Browns. If the NFL deems a player deserves a suspension for off-field infractions, the NFL should hold that player in its Commissioners Exempt status without his original team losing him as a player. The team should not be pressured to cut a top player.

  27. All kids that are physically abused have ‘accidents’. The sad truth is the KC fans will be cheering for him as soon as he scores a touchdown. If Hill cared about his kid he would have married and then at least tried to be a good father.

  28. What next? Well I was hoping for jail time, but that’s asking for too much since the venue was in the Kansas City area.

    Anyone who thinks that it wasn’t Tyreek Hill on tape should contact me with their names and numbers. I have some great MLM opportunities for them.

  29. “Hill be will cut from the Chiefs. Goodell will inform Hill he can only play for the Patriots or a team in the NFC.”

    There’s the most stupid thing I’ll read on here all day

    facepalm

  30. Any body remember a Hall of Fame linebacker of the Ravens. When 3 men step into an ally. One is murdered and the other two said they didn’t do it. There was no proof who did it, so they got away with murder. Now he’s all about community involvement. It makes me sick.

  31. I agree with you Florio but there is a serious amount of non-circumstantial evidence in this case (I mean, there is history and there is a tape…) so is it working to support a pre-determined outcome, or is it ensuring fairness in the process and let everyone have their say in it? Honestly I see nothing wrong with either one given the facts of the case. Not like he can go in and say, “Yeah, I threatened her but I didn’t mean it.”

  32. discountdoublecheck says:
    June 27, 2019 at 12:53 pm

    Craziness of the comment that KC will somehow still be as dangerous on O w/out Hill {possibly} aside…while I won’t implicate you certainly because I don’t know you, the rush to defend Hill by KC fans on just about every media outlet I saw EVEN AFTER the recordings came out was pretty awful. Classic proof that ‘fandom > all else’ in some peoples’ minds.

    And how is this different than Patriots fans, or Eagles fans, or Bucs or anyone else? It is what fans do. Right or wrong it is what fans do.

  33. Please show me the facts where he’s guilty of child abuse. NO charges were filed. The broken arm was deemed an accident. He never admits to punching the child either, all of that is based upon a 3rd partys audio clip.

  34. I believe Goodell will take this chance to suspend Hill for at least a year. This would help the Chargers. Last year the Chargers should have lost the game in Pittsburg. Two touchdowns given to Chargers that had blatant penalties everybody saw but the Refs, which are paid by the NFL. Questionable calls in other games went the Chargers way also. Remember the Chargers and Rams have to fill that new stadium, that will be home to a near Super Bowl. Anything to get the L.A. market started, even hurting other teams. I have lost faith in Goodell and the NFL. Money rules the world.

  35. harrisonhits2 says:

    June 27, 2019 at 4:10 pm

    “Hill be will cut from the Chiefs. Goodell will inform Hill he can only play for the Patriots or a team in the NFC.”

    There’s the most stupid thing I’ll read on here all day
    ___________

    Wow that’s saying a lot considering most commenters sound like juror’s from the Salem Witch Trials.

  36. mrgdawg says:
    June 27, 2019 at 4:35 pm

    Please show me the facts where he’s guilty of child abuse. NO charges were filed. The broken arm was deemed an accident. He never admits to punching the child either, all of that is based upon a 3rd partys audio clip.

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    1. Charges weren’t filed because there wasn’t sufficient evidence, not because he’s innocent. Tyreek and the baby momma are refusing to talk, which is their right. DAs hate taking on high-priced lawyers, even when they think they have enough evidence (see OJ trial).

    2. Notice how Hill doesn’t dispute or deny the audio tape. His lawyer told him that they can run voice prints to identify him, so denying it only makes it worse.

    3. The broken arm accident report was quickly pulled back, because the initial investigation was sloppy. There are plenty in KC who want to look away from the child abuse, because Hill can play football.

  37. Too much bad publicity. Chiefs will cut him and Cleveland will sign him.

    Browns may look to be getting better on paper but they’re going about it the wrong way.

  38. Are you kidding? It’s business as usual. The NFL cant touch Tyreek. He’s above the law, haven’t you seen this to be true?

  39. He should be suspended zero games, because this whole kangaroo court system of extrajudicial punishment to satisfy an ambiguous public relations mob is ridiculous. It’s strikingly similar to what the universities are doing, where you are guilty until proven innocent. We’ve already got federal and state judicial systems, whose sole purpose is to handle situations just like this one.

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