Authorities in Kansas refused to give NFL documents regarding Tyreek Hill case

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The NFL’s in-house justice system is deeply flawed, for a variety of reasons. One of the most important reasons is this: It often has no power to get the evidence needed to properly investigate incidents involving players.

While the league can compel players and league/team employees to cooperate, the league has no authority to issue subpoeanas for testimony or documents to people disconnected to the NFL.

As explained by A.J. Perez of USA Today, those inherent limits on the NFL’s investigative abilities prevented the league from conducting a complete investigation regarding child-abuse allegations made against Chiefs receiver Tyreek Hill. Perez reports that prosecutors in Kansas relied on an exception to the state’s open-records law to deny the league’s request for information relating to the case that explored whether and to what extent Hill’s son was the victim of child abuse.

On April 24, Johnson County, Kansas prosecutor Steve Howe said at a press conference that he believes a crime was committed against Hill’s son, but that insufficient proof existed as to the identity of the perpetrator.

The league made the request for information that same day. The next day, Howe responded, citing the exception to decline to provide any information to the NFL.

This means that Hill hasn’t been exonerated by the league. Instead, the NFL was unable to find a violation of the Personal Conduct Policy because it can’t get the information from the agency that is entitled to keep it secret, given that it has decided that it lacks proof beyond a reasonble doubt to prove Hill’s guilt.

It’s still unclear why Howe didn’t simply choose to charge both parents — Hill and Crystal Espinal — presenting the evidence and letting a jury decide whether either or both were responsible for the crime that Howe believes was committed. Even if both were acquitted, the league would then have access to the evidence, if any, against Hill. Given that the NFL applies a much lower standard to matters of guilt or innocence, the evidence that would be introduced at a trial of Hill and/or Espinal could have been enough to justify discipline.

48 responses to “Authorities in Kansas refused to give NFL documents regarding Tyreek Hill case

  1. Because the lady set Hill up with the taped call. Why else would she be tapong it? Im not even a KC fan but anyone that reads into the “case” just a bit knows this.

  2. It’s still unclear why Howe didn’t simply choose to charge both parents — Hill and Crystal Espinal —

    You ever consider maybe just maybe the prosecutor is a Chiefs fan? The rest of the Chiefs fans have put their football team ahead of their morals, why would the government employee Chiefs fan be any different?

  3. They shouldn’t give the NFL anything. The NFL is a kangaroo court. Hill did the right thing. You’re a lawyer and if you didn’t have enough proof, you’d just go a head and charge them both? Terrible. The media in you is leaking through.

  4. It’s still unclear why Howe didn’t simply choose to charge both parents — Hill and Crystal Espinal — presenting the evidence and letting a jury decide whether either or both were responsible for the crime that Howe believes was committed. Even if both were acquitted, the league would then have access to the evidence, if any, against Hill.

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    Because prosecutors aren’t particularly fond of prosecuting cases that they don’t have a very good chance to win. This the whole ‘insufficient evidence’ reasoning. And most prosecutors don’t decide to handle cases based on whether or not they’ll help a private business discipline an employee for a policy violation.

  5. It still doesn’t excuse the threat that he made on tape. Jimmy Smith was suspended for threatening his girlfriend yet somehow telling your wife/girlfriend that they need to be terrified of them doesn’t constitute a threat. Great job NFL. I’m also curious what evidence the NFL had to suspend Reed considering he wasn’t arrested or charged nor would the NFL of had any access to any evidence.

  6. I get why a prosecutor would be cautious here. Each would accuse the other and there would be plenty of room for reasonable doubt.

  7. Maybe . . . The NFL should get out of the “business,” and let the authorities having jurisdiction handle these matters. THE NFL can’t even get pass interference right, let alone legal issues . . .

  8. Yet somehow Jarran Reed, who didn’t even get arrested or charged with a crime is going to serve a 6 game suspension for something that happened in 2017. What a joke.

  9. Hard to see how the Chiefs can afford Mahomes, Hill and their other talents. Back to average football for KC. They are used to it.

  10. Lost in all of this is the fact that there’s a little boy out there who was abused by one or both of his parents, and neither parent is willing to do what’s in the best interest of the child and take responsibility for the abuse. And yet Chiefs fans will tell you the most important thing is that Hill can play football. Just sad. Some things are bigger than winning a football game.

  11. Goodell’s cheating comes in various forms. How he punishes which teams or frames them, is one of them, if not the main one, besides telling refs how to tailor calls at certain times of games vs certain teams.

  12. captainwhodat says:
    July 22, 2019 at 8:05 pm
    …home field advantage…

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    The Chiefs don’t play in and in no way, shape or form, affiliated with the state of Kansas.

  13. OBVIOUSLY the prosecutor is corrupt ( is a Chiefs fan) or he is a coward and caved to pressure that I am SURE the Hunt family was putting on him. This country is amazing( sad) when it comes to athletes on their favorite team, simply amazing. Morals go out the window completely. Go to Arrowhead Pride and read the hundreds of disgusting comments from the KC fanboys defending the piece of debris Tyreek Hill. Disgusting

  14. So the prosecutor said there was a crime one day and then the next day didn’t release any information that could’ve served some kind of justice the next? It’s probably because there was no crime as it pertains to Hill. He wasn’t even being investigated at any point based on the information provided and they can’t release an investigation of Espinal to the NFL because she is none of their business?

  15. If certain owners wanted Hill Suspended then Hill would be Suspended. As one of those owners why hurt The team that has The Best chance to beat the very team you’ve been trying to knock down to earth. If you hurt KC you could be helping The Patriots secure the 1 seed. Hurting Seattle or not does nothing for home field advantage in the AFC.

  16. There has been a bad feeling about this case from the beginning. Either he did it, or his fiance did and he is covering for her. They took the kid away from them, and that’s not done for no reason. The NFL could have made a statement, and instead missed out. If and when more info on this comes out, they are going to look really bad for allowing him back.

  17. Curious… Could Hill have requested a copy of the records they were seeking from the authorities? I mean, Brady got slammed for destroying his personal cell phone when the NFL already had the phones of the ball boys and thus already had the texts between Brady and the ball boys. Couldn’t they compel Hill to provide the records they didn’t have access to? Seems to be a little more on the line than a theoretical amount of air being let out of a ball… I’d bet my life if Patrick Mahomes wasn’t one of the very very few young QB’s with star potential Hill would be getting the Kareem Hunt treatment.

  18. The NFL needs to hire Judge Dredd! LMAO…Of course, the NFL has no right or authority to access legal records. They’re a football league and their gig is entertainment and making money…WTH people.

  19. One of these days the NFL is going bite off way more then it can chew and lose a tremendously huge lawsuit because it pushed the wrong person too far. There is no chance this cannot happen on the coarse they are now plotting.

  20. if you weigh all the evidence of this paticular case and don’t consider his past there is not enough there to prove anything against hill…

  21. jchemengr says:

    July 22, 2019 at 8:53 pm

    The NFL could end this nonsense by suspending the player and requiring the team to honor his contract.

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    If a player does something that gets them suspended, then why should the team be forced to honor the contract? That’s just dumb

  22. Essentially, there was no video or pictures of the crime and the NFL decided not to punish him. Ray Rice, Kareem Hunt there was video to get them suspended and Zeke Elliott, the girl took pictures that got him suspended. None of that exists here and he got off without a suspension.

  23. If they hadn’t spent a year and a half working to get evidence on Zeke, then not get it, but suspend him anyhow, I could maybe make sense out of this immediate and fast determination based on how they (supposedly) could not complete the evidence gathering.

    If they hadn’t had a judge determine there was no evidence against Brady, even got Goodell to admit in court they didn’t even have any evidence that tampering had even taken place, then go to court to establish that the CBA allowed them to suspend anyways, then maybe I could make sense out of them saying their hands are tied in this case.

  24. I get why a prosecutor would be cautious here. Each would accuse the other and there would be plenty of room for reasonable doubt.

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    That’s why they would try them together. Although they could still use the he/she did it defense, when both are tried at the same time, it doesn’t work as well.

  25. Roger could have suspended him for probably being aware that someone else probably injured the child.

    That reasoning has worked before and millions of people bought it.

  26. This prosecutor is doing by the book and professionally. He can’t directly nor indirectly allow anyone to be tried by the court of public opinion.

    That’s exactly what Goodell would have done with his “Keystones” investigation team.

    If you think back to OJ, Judge Alito and the entire circus that allowed a murderer to walk free; you’d understand the lessons that prosecutors have learned since. The OJ trial should, if it’s not already, be a case study in law schools around how NOT allow a prosecution to go!

    It isn’t a “fantasy” justice system; it’s for real. I appreciate when prosecutors follow the law; even when scum bags might get an unjust break. It means they’re working to ensure a fair system and due process for all.

  27. It’s still unclear why Howe didn’t simply choose to charge both parents Are you kidding? This is about protecting the team. Shame on these people.

  28. Where can I buy one of these tinfoil hats most of you must be wearing? No evidence, no charges, no crime, no suspension. Deal with it.

  29. Mitch Kumstein says:
    July 22, 2019 at 9:08 pm

    captainwhodat says:
    July 22, 2019 at 8:05 pm
    …home field advantage…

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    The Chiefs don’t play in and in no way, shape or form, affiliated with the state of Kansas.

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    No but the Johnson County DAs office is a 25 minute drive from the Chiefs practice facility, and about 15 minute drive from Hill’s house.

    Kansas City has a Mo side and a Ks side.

  30. When did law enforcement ever owe the NFL anything? Why would they give anything to the NFL? Florio’s media bias leaking through again. Of course the media could never look at each case with an open mind. They just want to go after any player accused of anything without the facts.

  31. shyts7 says:
    July 23, 2019 at 2:55 pm
    When did law enforcement ever owe the NFL anything? Why would they give anything to the NFL? Florio’s media bias leaking through again. Of course the media could never look at each case with an open mind. They just want to go after any player accused of anything without the facts.

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    So you are suggesting that Florio is campaigning for the facts because he wants to go after a player without facts?

  32. suncawy says:
    July 23, 2019 at 12:30 am
    Essentially, there was no video or pictures of the crime and the NFL decided not to punish him. Ray Rice, Kareem Hunt there was video to get them suspended and Zeke Elliott, the girl took pictures that got him suspended. None of that exists here and he got off without a suspension.

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    Rice they did not punish (much) until there was a video. Hunt did have a video. There is no video of Zeke back then. (The pictures of the girl she admitted were after someone else had beaten her up in a bar fight.) There was video of Zeke pushing the security guard (but no suspension). There was no video of Petersen. There was no video of Brady.

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