Philip Rivers: We love Melvin Gordon, but running back is a deep position for us

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Melvin Gordon, who is holding out of Chargers camp in search of a new contract, says a great running back can’t be replaced. Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers may not agree with that.

Although Rivers made a point of saying that Gordon is a good teammate, he also said that the second and third running backs on the roster, Austin Ekeler and Justin Jackson are capable of taking on a heavy workload if called upon to do so.

“They’re going to get a lot of work,” Rivers said, via the Los Angeles Times. “It certainly is a deep position for us, and those guys all love to play and work hard. We love Melvin, but we’re going to go with what we’ve got. It’s a pretty dang good group.”

Rivers is right: Ekeler has proven himself more than capable of performing well in the Chargers’ offense, and Jackson showed promise in a limited role as a rookie last year. It’s easy to envision Gordon holding out to start the season, and the Chargers’ other running backs showing that he can be replaced a lot more easily than he thinks.

53 responses to “Philip Rivers: We love Melvin Gordon, but running back is a deep position for us

  1. j.j. is no joke. he carried the load at n.u. for 3+ years, and plowed through the steelers last year. they’ll be fine. enjoy your time off, melvin. the train rolls on w/out you.

  2. We all see time and time again how easily RBs are replaced. Only foolish teams like the Rams and Jets dole out big money for RBs in the salary cap era. It backfired on the Rams and Bell will blow up in the Jets’ faces. Of course, as a fan of neither the Chargers or Cowboys, I’d love to see them give Gordon and Zeke HUGE contracts…

  3. This is why the Chargers will finish behind the Chiefs….again.
    Rivers thinks his **** doesnt stink, and he doesnt have the backs, and thus the respect, of his teammates.
    Patrick Mahomes stands up for his guys, that is why he is a Leader, and not viewed as an arrogant, whiney, crybaby, like Rivers.
    #dynastyChiefs
    #Innocent

  4. I support Gordon here. Will never side with billionaire owners (like all employers) who have the majority of leverage when rookie (employment) contracts are signed. That being said, I think he made a bad decision in the sense that he seems to be predicating his strategy on the belief that the Chargers’ window is closing this season. I don’t think that’s true. I think he also underestimated the ability of the offense to evolve without him. I know he’s trying to capitalize on last year’s improved running efficiency and mitigate (by sitting out) the high number of touches he’s had. I hope the guy gets some rest OR gets paid if the Chargers want to continue with their obvious plan of running him into the ground then disposing of him.

  5. Rivers just committed the cardinal sin,….do not interfere with teamates money squabbles,ask pittsburgh,nothing separates a locker quicker,especially coming on the heels of gordon saying his team mates had his back.

  6. 4-0 while he was out last season and he thinks they’re going to blink when he decides to hold out? Who is giving him advice? There was actually somebody out there telling him this would turn out well for him?

  7. The NFL needs to do something about the Running Back rookie wage scale. They are often times locked up for 5 years which in many cases eclipses their prime. They hit free agency, and they are tagged as having too much wear or past their prime.

    I think at minimum, RBs should have a smaller number of years of team control when drafted in the first round.

  8. banishpinkoctober says:
    July 26, 2019 at 10:22 am
    I support Gordon here. Will never side with billionaire owners (like all employers) who have the majority of leverage when rookie (employment) contracts are signed

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    What do the owners have to do with anything? Do you not understand that each team has a salary cap to which it can spend?

  9. Funny…davidsoria’s “Rivers committed cardinal sin” comment gets a buttload of thumbs-ups, but so does the “listen to your QB” comment from 24hours. And other similar comments supporting Gordon and condemning Rivers get buttloads of thumbs-downs.

    It is true that the Jackson / Ekeler combo can get the job done.

    But Rivers’ real message in stating that wasn’t, “Melvin, we don’t need you,” it was “Melvin, get your butt to camp.”

  10. davidsoria175yahoocom says:
    July 26, 2019 at 10:25 am
    Rivers just committed the cardinal sin,….do not interfere with teamates money squabbles,ask pittsburgh,nothing separates a locker quicker,especially coming on the heels of gordon saying his team mates had his back.

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    I think we read different quotes. This is the only one I saw in the article. “They’re going to get a lot of work,” … “It certainly is a deep position for us, and those guys all love to play and work hard. We love Melvin, but we’re going to go with what we’ve got. It’s a pretty dang good group.”

    Cardinal sin? If you say so.

  11. Phillip Rivers has made 203 million dollars (in 15 seasons, Tom Brady 212 mil in 19 Season) Melvin Gordon has made 10 mil. When do one of these QBs take a little less money and actual live by the whole “Team” concept.

  12. bondlake says:
    July 26, 2019 at 10:42 am
    MG signed a contract, didn’t he?

    Now honor it!
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    In your field of work are you not allowed to renegotiate given your performance? If so, that is concerning.

  13. footballfan3 says:
    July 26, 2019 at 11:33 am
    Phillip Rivers has made 203 million dollars (in 15 seasons, Tom Brady 212 mil in 19 Season) Melvin Gordon has made 10 mil. When do one of these QBs take a little less money and actual live by the whole “Team” concept.

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    Sounds great. Problem is, very very very very rarely does a backup QB step in for injury, holdout or suspension and provide 95% of what the starter provides. If you’ve been watching any football the last decade, RB2s and RB3s are plug and play and regularly do just that. Is what it is. I know RBs have shorter careers, and take a pounding – maybe CBA will tweak their rookie contracts. But you just can’t compare the QB and RB position these days in any way shape or form, and the contracts will mirror reality.

  14. Philip playing a little G.M. Making sure there is enough Cap for his new deal! LOL!

  15. If I’m a defensive coordinator, I’m more worried about Ekeler since he gets off the big yardage more often than Gordon.

  16. Well if hes so average and replaceable then why dont the chargers simply release him. They get to save lots of money since they won’t have to worry about a long term deal or franchise tag. Let him go sign somewhere else like KC or Baltimore or NE and move on with their awesome backups. I mean that seems like a win win for everyone.

  17. gromit45 says:
    July 26, 2019 at 11:51 am
    If I’m a defensive coordinator, I’m more worried about Ekeler since he gets off the big yardage more often than Gordon.

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    Change-up backs always do.

    But the between-the-tackles grinder is always going to be the DC’s top priority. Stop him, and keep your opponent in 3rd and long situations. Then the change-up back — who isn’t going to break all 3rd and longs — is less of a concern. Then the game comes to you.

    It may not look flashy when Gordon’s pounding it into the line for 2 / 3 yards, but it’s wearing those defenders out and planting the seeds for the playbook to open from the late 3rd quarter to the end of the game.

  18. footballfan3 says:
    July 26, 2019 at 11:33 am
    Phillip Rivers has made 203 million dollars (in 15 seasons, Tom Brady 212 mil in 19 Season) Melvin Gordon has made 10 mil. When do one of these QBs take a little less money and actual live by the whole “Team” concept.

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    Brady has taken less money than he could have demanded throughout the majority of his career. It’s one of the reason why the Patriots always seem to field a team with good depth. They also don’t overpay for RBs.

  19. Gordon is average, give him an average extension so he can have a couple more years. OR he can learn to play Safety maybe that can extend him to age 29.

  20. Gotta love it when you QB (supposedly the team leader) sides with the owner’s side, and not your team mate.. Maybe the Chargers should start adding depth at the QB position to replace the guy whose about to be 38, and has thrown more interceptions besides probably Eli, and Big Ben. Oh thats right they Tyrod Taylor….Chargers dont need Rivers , he is capable of throwing interceptions as well.

  21. I wish QB will say no comment when speaking on another players contract situation considering they take a huge % of the cap for themselves and make everyone else fight for what’s left….just say no comment….

  22. A rookie who becomes the feature back in his first year could rack up 1500 carries in his first five years. Only 40 backs in the history of the league had more than 2000 carries in his career, 25 had over 2500 and 9 over 3000.

    The simple truth is an elite running backs career is at least half over after five years and likely to be 75% over. He needs that big money guaranteed contract sooner, not later

  23. footballfan3 says:
    July 26, 2019 at 11:33 am
    Phillip Rivers has made 203 million dollars (in 15 seasons, Tom Brady 212 mil in 19 Season) Melvin Gordon has made 10 mil. When do one of these QBs take a little less money and actual live by the whole “Team” concept.
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    It’s well-known that Brady has always taken far, far less than he could have simply because he is the ultimate “team first” player. He could have been the highest paid player for most of the last 19 years…

  24. Funny, sentiment here seems about 50-50 for Rivers and Gordon. But, when Baker Mayfield said just about the same thing in regards to Duke Johnson a month ago, all the media and everyone on this forum criticized him. Just saying.

  25. My chiefs Lost a Super Bowl because of Kareem Hunt (Great RB) We was cool with DWilliams, but he is just good when things get tight great and Good always Separate ..Steelers Had The same Problem No way they Miss Playoffs if they had Leveon..James Connor is Good Not great ..Regular Season and Playoffs are two different animals, The game slows down dramatically, And thats why Rivers will regret this comment

  26. Wow. When it comes to money, nearly all teammates back their brothers in getting paid. Rivers just kicked Gordo off the island and now represents Charger management.

  27. RB by committee only works and looks good in the regular Season… I’m not egotistical or foolish to convince myself backups and one above average RBs can carry me to the promise land…Give me my Bell, Zeke, Gordon and Gurleys

  28. Rivers says this about Gordon and gets applauded.

    Mayfield comments about Johnson (who IS in camp despite wanting to be traded) and gets BLASTED.

    Guess you have to be a 23 year vet in the league to speak your mind :-/

  29. Rivers should of just kept his mouth shut. How would Rivers feel if he was holding out to get paid and Melvin went out in the media saying crap like that ” Man these backup’s we have are looking great. Cardale Jones is throwing the ball all over the yard, he can carry the team. We’re good to go and we’re just going to roll with the guys we have” , I dont think Rivers would appreciate to much and would be thinking to himself Melvin needs to keep his mouth shut. If Melvin does get paid and comes back into the fold i’m sure he think about & look at Rivers different after those comments where instead of supporting him he basically throws the guy under the bus.

  30. This explains why Rivers and the Chargers haven’t won anything , he’s not very smart . Very easy answer would have been to say he respects Gordon but right now his only focus is helping the players in camp get prepared to win football games . Rivers could be right but he doesn’t have to go to the media with his opinion . A true leader would not publicly call out a teammate . This type of talk derailed the Steelers last year and I’m thinking the Chargers could be next if players continue to comment on Gordon to the media .

  31. The difference to me is that a QB is much less likely to get a career-ending injury than a RB, so RBs need to get what they can.

  32. Gordon is one of the most overrated players in the league. He’s always injured, only had 3 100 yard rushing games last season and didn’t perform at all in the playoffs. I don’t blame spanos and telesco for not wanting to pay him. He is so in over his head it’s mind boggling

  33. People dumping on Rivers don’t know Rivers at all. Ever since his one and only holdout as a rookie in 2004 – (as a backup to future Hall of Famer Drew Brees) – Rivers has turned “purist” about contracts. BTW, Rivers is also in the final year of his own deal – and yet NO ONE wonders about the outcome – except the media and fans outside SD / LA.

    Rivers’ tendency is when he’s asked a question about the adverse impact of a “hold out” – or about an injured teammate – (in this case it was an LA Times’s reporter who asked) – he does everything in response to boost the confidence and to lessen the psychological pressure on usually younger and less experienced backups. He NEVER throws a teammate under the bus on purpose, no matter how many “analysts” attempt to “speculate” what Rivers’ “ominous motives” might be.

    He’s not put together that way. Since 2006, he only trashes opponents – and ONLY does so DURING games, NEVER after. I don’t think there’s a single clip of him since 2007 ever trashing an opponent – let alone a teammate – about his character or style of play.

    Look up what he’s said about Bosa, Weddle and even the infamous Jared Gaither when they held out or didn’t get into games.

    Rivers has started every game since week #1 of the 2006 season and is always tuned in on the morale of his teammates.
    If this “story” gets bigger, I wouldn’t be surprised if Rivers picks up the phone and calls Melvin to let him know how he feels.

    Say what you want about his inability to get to a Super Bowl – he’s one of the few field generals who constantly worries more about the morale of his team than about himself.

  34. The bolts hang their hats on their D!! I’m not a chargers Dan but Mel needs to honor his contract n his union should be their talking along with him, perhaps saying the obvious that rookie contracts are gonna be shortened from 5-3, but something needs to be done because I agree with a previous post that Mel is gonna be beat up if he were to play this year….anyways, it’s the frkn greedy owner(s) who won’t renegotiate because why pay double for 1500-tards, 10-tds, n I don’t know how many receiving yards but my numbers are a guestimate but the ownership is getting a deal..so Mel, get back to the diner, lol

  35. It’s silly to blame the owners for being greedy, this is a salary cap sport and the Chargers are maxed out. If they were $30M under then you’d have a better case.

  36. Dakkota Braswell says:
    July 26, 2019 at 1:26 pm
    RB by committee only works and looks good in the regular Season… I’m not egotistical or foolish to convince myself backups and one above average RBs can carry me to the promise land…Give me my Bell, Zeke, Gordon and Gurleys

    Do you watch football? The closest one on your list to “the promise land” was Gurley. He got hurt, and a cast-off by the name of CJ Anderson replaced him and got them as close as the Rams could have gotten, with or without an overpriced RB (who they are looking to replace if you haven’t been paying attention). Maybe go read a wiki article on the past decade or two of super bowl winners. Not a lot of top 3-5 backs in there which kinda kills your hypothesis. But keep interviewing for those GM positions, you’ll get one eventually.

    Pay RBs because they’re driven into the ground during their rookie contract and thus don’t get paid during their prime? Sure, fair enough.

    Pay RBs because they’re indispensable? Ummmm, no. Facts say otherwise.

  37. hawkkiller says:
    July 26, 2019 at 1:42 pm
    Rivers should of just kept his mouth shut. How would Rivers feel if he was holding out to get paid and Melvin went out in the media saying crap like that ” Man these backup’s we have are looking great. Cardale Jones is throwing the ball all over the yard, he can carry the team. We’re good to go and we’re just going to roll with the guys we have” , I dont think Rivers would appreciate to much and would be thinking to himself Melvin needs to keep his mouth shut. If Melvin does get paid and comes back into the fold i’m sure he think about & look at Rivers different after those comments where instead of supporting him he basically throws the guy under the bus.

    ——

    Is this your honest conclusion? A sports reporter asked him about Austin Ekeler and Justin Jackson and he should just stand there mute? Pretend he didn’t hear? Walk away? Create a distraction and run? Say those guys (who are in camp now and may very well have to carry the load) suck compared to Melvin?

  38. Rivers is and will always be a tier 2 QB. A leader does not talk about another players contract. Its what you’d expect from a guy who is treated as elite but has 2 playoff wins since McNabb left the Eagles.

  39. Rivers has already done some damage control.

    According to NFL Network, “The quarterback said this weekend that he sympathizes with Gordon and can’t wait to have him back on the field, whenever that is. He told SiriusXM Radio that “You want our team to have the best chance to win. Hopefully we’ll see Melvin soon. I think Melvin adds a great deal to our team.”

    And I’ll wager that Rivers is about to – (if he hasn’t already) – contact Melvin Gordon personally – in response to the adverse interpretation of his previous comments about the running back position to the L.A. Times.

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