Aaron Rodgers’ criticism of joint practices amounts to criticism of Matt LaFleur

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First, the “audible thing.” Then, the “joint practice thing.” It’s hard not to wonder what “thing” will come next between one of the greatest quarterbacks in NFL history and his first-year head coach.

For now, it’s clear that Packers coach Matt LaFleur likes joint practices, and that Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers doesn’t.

“[A]bsolutely 100 percent I want to do this again,” LaFleur said Tuesday, before Rodgers gave a candid and biting assessment of the practice of engaging in joint practices. The quarterback’s criticism included an element of whistleblowing.

“I don’t think doing live special teams drills is very smart,” Rodgers said. “I think the [NFL]PA is going to look at that, for sure. The kickoff especially is one of the most dangerous plays in football, and that’s why they’ve tweaked different things over the years. Close to a live kickoff drill I don’t think is best use of a [joint] practice.”

Well, it’s LaFleur who decided to have joint practices, and it’s LaFleur who decided to permit “close to a live kickoff drill” that “for sure” the NFL Players Association will look at. And it’s Rodgers who decided to call out his team and his coach for doing it.

So why did Rodgers do it? Well, who’s going to stop him from doing it? And what are they going to do about it? Trade him? Bench him for DeShone Kizer?

Rodgers continues to be the most powerful employee in the organization, and he’s showing everyone who wears the championship belt. They’ll let him gloat for now. The moment he shows real signs of slippage, however, the Packers will cut the cord and Rodgers will be playing for another team — just like his predecessor in Green Bay.

128 responses to “Aaron Rodgers’ criticism of joint practices amounts to criticism of Matt LaFleur

  1. That’s exactly what I said yesterday. Rodgers knew the implications of his comments. They haven’t even played their first preseason game and Rodgers is trying to undermine the new coach.

  2. Churn away. Rodgers is one of a number of players that may not like joint practices. So what. He was asked the question. Ask Peter King, who was in Green Bay this past Monday. He clearly saw no issues between Rodgers or La Fleur. Weak sauce, at best.

  3. That’s exactly what I said yesterday. Rodgers knew the implications of his comments.
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    Well, to be fair you and the rest of the trolls have been saying it since MM was fired….so no one really cares.

  4. This guy is so unlikeable its forcing me, a Steelers fan, to pull for Tom Brady in the best QB debate. That’s how terrible you are, Aaron Rodgers. You’re making me root for a Patriot.

  5. I guarantee LeFleur could care less what Rodgers thinks about joint practices. This narrative that Rodgers is the real coach of the team is false. He’s one guy on a team of 53. Sure, he’s a great QB, but he can’t win by himself. Lefleur’s job is to prepare the entire team for the season, not cow-tow to the ever-so-moody Rodgers. And so what if Rodgers doesn’t like joint practices? Maybe he doesn’t like Swiss cheese and LeFleur does. So what?

  6. I’m interested in what the Packers Fans think of Aaron?? I wouldn’t be liking this at all if I was a Green Bay Fan. There is a Chain of command at all companies for a reason. All this does is create division and disrespect the head coach. This guy is a coach killer

  7. “I don’t think doing live special teams drills is very smart,” Rodgers said. “I think the [NFL]PA is going to look at that, for sure. The kickoff especially is one of the most dangerous plays in football”

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    I don’t think Aaron Rodgers is as smart as he thinks he is. Just another member of the sheeple heard. If you tell him a lie enough times he will believe it.

    There has never been any statistical evidence that shows that kickoffs are more dangerous than any other play.

    Of course were talking about a guy who wears the red can’t touch me jersey in practice. (Probably advocates to wear one in games too)

  8. “I don’t think doing live special teams drills is very smart,” Rodgers said. “I think the [NFL]PA is going to look at that, for sure. The kickoff especially is one of the most dangerous plays in football, and that’s why they’ve tweaked different things over the years. Close to a live kickoff drill I don’t think is best use of a [joint] practice.”

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    Basically calls his coach stupid and then asks the NFLPA to look into it.

    Nice.

  9. cletuspstillwaterjr says:
    August 7, 2019 at 12:56 pm

    Aaron Rodgers is going to find himself in Miami next year.
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    Maybe that’s his goal?

  10. I would love to see Josh Rosen be traded to Green bay and sit behind Rodgers for two or three years.. That would be so delicious.

  11. Too bad AR didn’t serve in the military. Had he done so, and talked about his superior in such a manner, he would have learned to never do so again.

  12. terrystown says

    Sure, he’s a great QB, but he can’t win by himself.
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    Did Aaron approve this comment?

    BTW, Aaron WAS a very good QB. Based on the last few years, he is no longer what he used to be.

    Older, slower, injury prone with declining skills does not make Rodgers a great QB.

  13. People who mind don’t matter, People who matter don’t mind. Aaron doesn’t matter, he never has and never will live up to his potential.

  14. And of course this was left out:

    Rodgers felt that the Packers were finding their groove with the daily installations of the offense and defense prior to the Texans coming to town. During the two practices, he said everything became so dumbed down that it wasn’t that beneficial to the offense, which is installing a new system.

  15. Aaron Rodgers is one of the greatest QBs ever

    Aaron Rodgers is also kind of a dick

    These 2 things are not mutually exclusive

  16. “One of the greatest quarterbacks in NFL history “? Someone out there please tell me I’m not the only person who DOES NOT believe that statement!!

  17. Each observation hereon of Rogers the person reveals precisely what the problem was years back at draft time – Alex Smith or Aaron Rogers. The specific mindset of the Niners back then reportedly was that “…. Rogers was too arrogant…” and the Niner brain-trust felt more comfortable with Alex Smith’s demeanor. According to published articles all else was equal, that was it in a nutshell. Now is that surfacing maybe????

  18. vikings1234 says:
    August 7, 2019 at 1:14 pm

    You ain’t heard nothin yet – wait until mid season when they are 4-4.
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    Where’d you find that fourth win?

  19. 27 years of Favre and Rodgers and only two Super Bowl wins. Hard to fathom.
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    Not when you hire guys like Mike Sherman and Mike McCarthy…

  20. So why did Rodgers do it? Well, who’s going to stop him from doing it? And what are they going to do about it? Trade him? Bench him for DeShone Kizer?

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    Yes, bench him. That’s what great coaches do to players who step out of line. Treat your whiny star QB same as the no-name special teams guy. Otherwise you end up losing the locker room, ask Mike Tomlin.

    You don’t have to bench him the whole game. Anyone remember Wes Welker sitting out after his Rex Ryan foot fetish comedy show?

  21. Another Rothlesberger, just trouble, has become a diva, “you’ll do what I want or I’ll whine”. Your a multi millionaire being paid to play a game, shut up and play

  22. I think this has been blown out of proportion. I’m not a Packers fan, but he’s right. The kickoff is super dangerous and teams are trying to avoid injuries. He didn’t say that joint practices are dumb, just one facet of it. I would like to see the whole interview.

  23. Aaron Rodgers is most definitely not overrated, anyone who truly thinks that is brain dead at best.

  24. Mike McCarthy is starting to look more credible by the minute….
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    Take a better look at his post-season embarrassments.

    Colossal failure.

  25. Aaron Rodgers is not one of the greatest quarterbacks in NFL history. He has been good but I can’t help but feel he needs to win some more games before he reaches said status.

  26. Rodgers should come to the Patriots. After Brady retires, Belichick will teach him everything he knows and show him the ways of the force. Then, and only then, he could win another ring. He doesn’t seem like the more openminded quarterback, though. No coach can teacher leadership or clutch.

  27. Its cute that A Rogers thinks he is one of the decision makers. He is a paid employee that makes millions. Shut up, play football, and drink the Kool-Aid. That what you get paid for. He believes his own hype.

  28. “One of the greatest quarterbacks in NFL history” – really? Is he though?? Based on…?

  29. Every time he opens his mouth Rodgers gives another textbook example of how not to be a good leader. All that talent doesn’t mean much when you’re a QB who cannot lead. Same tired, old Rodgers.

  30. This team essentially wasted Aaron Rodgers’ prime, and now they’re going to spend the next five years pretending that he isn’t in decline.
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    2016: 4428 passing yards, led the League in td passes, 104 passer rating.

    Say what you want about injuries, can’t deny that.

    .. but lets be sure to talk about the talent level on offense the last 5 years, also. Plenty of All-Pro caliber talent went out the door. (Sitton, Lang, Nelson..)

  31. It’s clear Rodgers has lost respect not just for Matt LeFluer, but the Packers organization.

    Part of it is the Packers not involving him in some key decisions, and part of it is the Packers not giving him much to work with on offense, and having squandered multiple high draft picks failed DBs. Meanwhile the OL is worse, receivers are worse, and the Packers have slipped to probably third best roster in the division.

    Rodgers attitude has clearly changed from a few years ago. He got his new mega contract, but now feels free to piss on the Packers as he pleases. And if the Packers eventually trade or cut him, he seems ready for a change of scenery.

  32. I don’t know how popular Rodgers still is in Wisconsin, but what would that team even be without him? The roster is built around his particular skillset and style of play.
    Are Packers fans willing to go through a rebuild with Mason Crosby as the best player on the team?

  33. What is it about Packers QBs that in the waning years of their careers when given the opportunity to go out like legends they chose to go out like jerks?

  34. Rodgers is like Trump, doesn’t matter what they do or say, the haters are going to hate at the mention of their names. As an old Packer fan, I will say we have had a lot of QBs I’ve liked better on a personal level, but this guy has made more plays than almost any of them.

  35. Nobody will care if he leads them to a super bowl. However, that’s a challenge I don’t see happening again during the remainder of Rodgers days.

  36. Aaron Rogers is over rated.

    His job is to win football games.

    How is he doing?
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    110-64-1, 1 Title

    Highest rated passer of all-time, so nobody in history has put his team in a better position to win football games.

    He’s done his job.

  37. I just don’t see what the big deal is. Rodgers offered up his opinion. He doesn’t like joint practices. Oh well. I’m sure if you went around and asked every player to say something they didn’t like about practice, etc., they’d have something they don’t like. I’m sure everyone here has something they don’t like at their job. Would people rather Rodgers just told a lie or said no comment? Is it the social media driven dramatic society we live in now where everyone has a voice and an ego to match it? Anything a polarizing figure says is over-analyzed and ran through with a fine tooth comb looking for angles and hidden meanings. If people wanna waste their time with all the head games, I guess that’s their prerogative. I’ll sit back and wait for week 1, when real football actually begins.

  38. Given the circumstances, hard not to agree with Rodgers. Some Texans rookie was out there REPEATEDLY blowing up Packers receivers, knocking one guy out with a possible concussion. What exactly (beyond injuries) were the Packers getting out of that practice?

  39. ill42 says: Aaron Rodgers is one of the greatest QBs ever
    aarons444 says: 2016 – 4428 passing yards, led the League in td passes, 104 passer rating.
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    In 2016 he just edged TDs but he was 4th in yards, 4th in rating, 5th in INT%, 9th in comp% and 13th in YPA. So hardly lead the league! Albeit past his best now he’s def one of the best of this era, but in career-passing TDs he’ll struggle to make the top 5 and surprisingly in yards he’ll struggle to even make the top ten! – and another SB is highly unlikely. And you def can’t put him alongside Brady, nor Montana or Peyton, Unitas – nor even quite match Favre.

  40. Are Packers fans willing to go through a rebuild with Mason Crosby as the best player on the team?
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    Mason Crosby; Active FG% – 25th

    …only 26 kickers qualify

  41. Lafleur needs Rodgers to succeed. He’s entitled to his opinions. If they have a good season it won’t be with Kizer.
    Yeah Aaron is abrasive. So what. He doesn’t throw his teammates under the bus with the regularity of Big Ben.

  42. glac1 says:
    August 7, 2019 at 2:15 pm

    so now the media wants us to agree with everything our boss says or does????? LOL
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    No, just don’t go on TV to disagree with the leader of your organization. Maybe they could have discussed this privately?

  43. And you def can’t put him alongside Brady, nor Montana or Peyton, Unitas – nor even quite match Favre.
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    I’ll put him alongside anyone I choose.

  44. I’ll put him alongside anyone I choose.

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    True, you technically can, but it doesn’t make it true. Rodgers isn’t even top 10, let alone anywhere close to Brady.

  45. Rodgers should be keeping his mouth shut for the good of the team, but Lafleur is in over his head, which will become pretty apparent early in the season.

  46. captaincakeman says:
    August 7, 2019 at 1:56 pm
    “One of the greatest quarterbacks in NFL history” – really? Is he though?? Based on…?

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    He’s not even one of the top 2 QBs in Packers history

  47. “Most overrated quarterback in the league. Not even close.” Jealousy for sure.

    I love these kinds of comments, particularly when Rodgers IS the highest rated QB in the history of the game. Look it up. Career leader in QB rating.

  48. neelymessier says:
    August 7, 2019 at 2:44 pm
    Lafleur needs Rodgers to succeed. He’s entitled to his opinions. If they have a good season it won’t be with Kizer.
    Yeah Aaron is abrasive. So what. He doesn’t throw his teammates under the bus with the regularity of Big Ben.
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    Just last season complaining about all of the wide receivers. Meanwhile according to ESPN his wide receivers had some of the highest percentages of off-target throws.

  49. “Just last season complaining about all of the wide receivers.” Yeah, he called the young guys out for not practicing right. And the ones that turned it around got the ball. He was playing with a bunch of rookie WRs in a stale offense and playing with a broken bone in one leg the entire season. Let’s see how he does healthy with a new system and a run game.

    And those guys he called out last year? They’re looking much better this year.

  50. Rodgers is just not a team player, good player but if his play continues to decline, his toxic attitude will be great than his play.

  51. This team essentially wasted Aaron Rodgers’ prime.
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    I told you 5 years ago that Rodgers wouldn’t be able to score 24 points a game without Jordy Nelson, would you believe?

    Rodgers doesn’t have the skill to use TE and slot receivers. He inherited a great team and was lucky winning one SB.

  52. Greg Jennings’ longstanding criticism of Rodgers is moving from soundbite to credible…

  53. Everybody who loves Rodgers talks crap about Russell Wilson but it’s Russell Wilson that joined Peyton Manning as the only two QBs in NFL history to throw for at least 20 touchdowns and 3000 yards every season in their first 7 seasons.

    Only two quarterbacks have ever done that, Peyton Manning and Russell Wilson.

    Yet somehow Russell remains humble and pleasing to be around for his teammates and coaches.

    Weird.

  54. If I were the Head Coach, I would let that Jerk Rodgers talk his head off, and do not a thing. Then on first game of regular season, I would do a Bill Belichick/Malcom Butler.

  55. Aaron was at the time upset that Trevor Davis got injured on a kickoff drill. Aaron then was asked a question in a locker room interview and he answered that maybe a joint practice isn’t the time to do kickoff drills. Some are actually now hoping this is a huge issue? Too funny!

    I am sure Special Teams Coordinator Shawn Mennenga will weigh the risks and rewards of using a kickoff drill in joint practices in the future. That is a conversation that can be had during the planning of next years joint training camp practices. It is unfortunate Trevor got hurt, but he is going to be fine and there is nothing else to see here.

    The Packers are geting ready for the 2019 season and that is the their focus.

    Preseason game number 1:

    Texans vs. Packers on Thursday Night at Lambeau.

    Let’s do this!

    #GoPackGo!🏈

  56. Highly doubt the Pack will choose LaFleur over Rodgers but hey these are the same people who thought LaFleur was the right man for the job so who knows

  57. First team to offer up two number one’s he’s your problem. Hello Miami, Cincinnati, Tennessee, Oakland?
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    Doubtful if anyone wants him at that price. Rodgers is pure locker room cancer.

  58. Perhaps a review of AR’s contract will make you change your mind about “cutting the cord”. The Packers can’t, at least until after the 2020 season. That ridiculous contract ties him to the Packers, love it or not. AR also knows this.
    The Packers goofed by signing AR to a contract extension earlier than they needed to.

    The Packers faithful roundly booed me when I suggested before the extension a trade with the Raiders for Carr. The AR albatross would be off their back, Gruden would have loved Rodgers and the Packers would have a manageable contract(and a quieter QB) in Carr.

  59. Rodgers doesnt like joint practices because he cant practice and learn the new playbook while they show vanilla looks to another team. He also doesnt like when the guy he is trying to build chemistry with (Trevor Davis) is hurt practicing a “live” kickoff.

    Matt LF likes the physicality and the team building. The fights bring the locker room together and build team chemistry.

    They are both right from their perspective, and they both answered questions sincerely. Why does this drama-narrative have to be driven so darn hard?

  60. There has to be a time when the Packers fans have had enough of this baby crap. This dude is such a horrible teammate, not to mention hes 20-18-1 in his last three seasons.

  61. Brady, Brees or Manning would never do something like this. It’s the difference between being a true leader and just a good QB. Nobody can deny the physical skill-set, but Rodgers’ leadership skills have always lacked. He’s a front runner. When things are going well, it’s rainbows and butterflies. When times get tough, Rodgers spouts and pouts.

  62. Just another NFL HC that doesn’t like Aaron Rodgers. If it weren’t for those commercials no one would even go over to his house.

  63. The Packers faithful roundly booed me when I suggested before the extension a trade with the Raiders for Carr.
    >>>><<<<<<<
    And I'll boo you now. Inane suggestion….we'll keep Rodgers thank you.

  64. waterisforfighting says:
    August 8, 2019 at 7:16 am
    Rodgers doesnt like joint practices because he cant practice and learn the new playbook while they show vanilla looks to another team. He also doesnt like when the guy he is trying to build chemistry with (Trevor Davis) is hurt practicing a “live” kickoff.

    Matt LF likes the physicality and the team building. The fights bring the locker room together and build team chemistry.

    They are both right from their perspective, and they both answered questions sincerely. Why does this drama-narrative have to be driven so darn hard?
    _____________

    I couldn’t agree more!
    100% spot on.

    You know, for the last several weeks we had the whole audible “controversy” that was supposed to be GB’s undoing, now we have this drummed up drama, who knows what the fishing expedition will turn up next week.

  65. jbcommonsense says:
    August 8, 2019 at 10:15 am

    Okay, Rodgers is criticizing Lafleur a little. So what? And I don’t think there has been much slippage in Rodgers’ play, so no issue there either.
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    You might want to take a look at the stats and the record the last four years compared to the first six years.

  66. Rob Brzezinski is a Magician says:

    August 8, 2019 at 11:22 am

    jbcommonsense says:
    August 8, 2019 at 10:15 am

    Okay, Rodgers is criticizing Lafleur a little. So what? And I don’t think there has been much slippage in Rodgers’ play, so no issue there either.
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    You might want to take a look at the stats and the record the last four years compared to the first six years.
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    For one player, even a QB, you cannot measure him based on W’s, which is a team effort. Individual stats are the key. Last year Rodgers had 28 TDs and only two interceptions, with 277 yards passing per game. That’s pretty darn good, though off from his high of 40 TDs the year before his injury. I think if the offense is working Rodgers will be very good.

  67. waterisforfighting says:
    August 8, 2019 at 7:16 am
    Rodgers doesnt like joint practices because he cant practice and learn the new playbook while they show vanilla looks to another team. He also doesnt like when the guy he is trying to build chemistry with (Trevor Davis) is hurt practicing a “live” kickoff.
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    Rodgers should have more of an overall team concern and less being concerned about just himself. It’s exactly this me first attitude which everyone is being critical of Rodgers.

  68. Rogers just can’t help himself in these moments.. greatest at causing acid R-E-F-L-U-X for the team and organization

  69. Scalesofjustice says:
    August 7, 2019 at 1:05 pm
    I’m interested in what the Packers Fans think of Aaron?? I wouldn’t be liking this at all if I was a Green Bay Fan. There is a Chain of command at all companies for a reason. All this does is create division and disrespect the head coach. This guy is a coach killer

    \\\\\\

    As a local resident, and fan of the Packers I can give you some perspective.

    The guy will speak his mind. Florio would be out of work if the guy didn’t give him all the click bait. Look at all the voting on this article.

    Sometimes he does say things where I get his perspective but wonder, “why even open that can”?

    But for all the Favre loving purples in this comment section, they seem to have really forgotten how well he spoke of training camp, how he didn’t show up to a lot of voluntary sessions after Holmgren left, and his usual problems with womanizing, drinking, and pain killers.

    So is Aaron perfect? Hell no.

    Is he easier to deal with than all the Favre Baggage? Hell yes.

    Is he a better QB. overall yes.

    Will he be top 10 by the time he retires as a QB. Probably needs another ring and their won’t be much argument.

  70. vikingsvoice says:
    August 8, 2019 at 8:43 am
    Brady, Brees or Manning would never do something like this. It’s the difference between being a true leader and just a good QB. Nobody can deny the physical skill-set, but Rodgers’ leadership skills have always lacked. He’s a front runner. When things are going well, it’s rainbows and butterflies. When times get tough, Rodgers spouts and pouts.

    \\\\\

    Standard Viking fan response.

    More worried about his personality than his play.

    I’d rather have an a-hole that wins than a lovable loser.

    When did sports fans become so soft?

  71. Rodgers isn’t going anywhere. The haters have their undies in a twist over nothing. Viking trolls are on here blasting away, as usual, because they wish they had a quarterback that not only had the talent and charisma of Rodgers, but an active personality too. Cousins is as milquetoast as they come. The whole team is a yawner.

  72. “All you need to do is browse r/GreenBayPackers for 5 minutes to discover toxicity, ignorance and Boston-levels of inferiority complexes. I’ve never seen such a whiny, entitled bunch of fans in my life. They are seriously giving the Patriots a run for their money. People on the Packers subreddit are literally threatening physical violence against Greg Jennings and Jermichael Finley for their opinions. I guarantee you if that John Kuhn had said anything negative, fans would have believed every word of it. Look, I love Aaron Rodgers, but some of these “fans” worship him to levels that would have made Jim Jones blush. In their minds, Rodgers is god, and anything less than a Super Bowl is a wasted season. “

  73. “Look, I love Aaron Rodgers.”

    ========

    Thank you for finally admitting one shred of truth here.

    Would you like us to set up a time before a game that you can meet him for a second? Or can you still not travel like you’ve said in the past?

    It seems you are afraid that Aaron might feel that Packers fans love him more than you do. Perhaps you can draw him a picture and express how much he means to you. I’ve seen kids from Childrens Hospital do that before. If you want we will set something up for you.👍

  74. Judging by today’s headline, T.Y. Hilton is criticizing LaFluer too. That poor guy just can’t win.

  75. AR’s a tremendous QB, one of the best we’ve ever seen. But now I’m really beginning to wonder about this guy. Why even spend a minute publicly worrying about something like this?
    Just get ready to play!

  76. “All you need to do is browse r/GreenBayPackers for 5 minutes to discover toxicity, ignorance and Boston-levels of inferiority complexes. I’ve never seen such a whiny, entitled bunch of fans in my life. They are seriously giving the Patriots a run for their money.”
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    A story that has absolutely zero to do with the Patriots.
    Suffice to say the Patriots are clearly occupying every inch of space in this dude’s brain.

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