Brian Flores wants Josh Rosen to rein in “gunslinger mentality”

AP

Quarterback Josh Rosen played most of Thursday night’s game for the Dolphins and he spent much of the night under pressure from the Falcons.

It’s clear that the Dolphins have work to do on their offensive line and Rosen was able to elude pressure long enough to get passes away on several occasions. Some of those passes wound up as completions, but head coach Brian Flores said after the game that he’d prefer Rosen not take quite as many risks as he did against Atlanta.

“At some point as a quarterback, you have to take a sack. That’s the play,” Flores said, via the South Florida Sun-Sentinel. “But the guy has a little bit of a gunslinger mentality and likes to let it rip. Obviously, that was a nice one to Preston [Williams], but I think we want to play smarter than that in that situation. Not just let the ball go like we did.”

Rosen took no issue with what Flores had to say.

“You just can’t fall into that trap because bad games will turn really bad really quickly if you don’t learn negate that risk,” Rosen said. “I’ve been battling that my whole career. I have to find that balance of knowing when I can push the edge, and when to just take the sack and live to play another down.”

Rosen ended the night 13-of-20 for 191 yards and an interception on a poor decision in the first half of the game. He’ll get his next chance at game action against the Buccaneers next Friday.

32 responses to “Brian Flores wants Josh Rosen to rein in “gunslinger mentality”

  1. Sorry Brian. The idea should never be to take the sack. Doesn’t mean you force throws. But throwing the ball away is a much better play than a sack. Sacks are usually drive killers.

  2. Watched the game yesterday and I think the only truly unfavorable (bad) throw was the prayer to Preston Williams while a guy was sacking him. The rest of the game he was making bold throws and trusting the 6’5” Williams, who he obviously has great chemistry with.

    On another note, the offensive line play (although no Tunsil) was absolutely atrocious and embarrassing. Fitzpatrick/Rosen were both running for their lives each snap and took time to get in the flow of the game. I have a feeling we’re going to see both QB’s early this season with the pummeling they will end up taking.

  3. “The idea should never be to take the sack. Doesn’t mean you force throws. But throwing the ball away is a much better play than a sack.”

    Trying desperation throws when in the grasp often leads to pick 6s or at least an INT. “Throwing the ball away” in that situation can easily end up being picked because its likely to be a weak throw and not well directed. So yes, there is a time its better to take a sack.

  4. I agree, not all of what Rosen did was bad. Really his performance was just about what was expected. He still has some work to do this preseason. I do believe Flores will give him every opportunity to play and succeed.
    I think the O-line will steadily get better. Tunsil and Kilgore will pull the guys together leading up to the first regular season game.
    If we get only 4-5 wins this year so be it. We need to evaluate our younger players so we know what to do with all of next years draft picks and cap space.

  5. If he had some protection he wouldn’t be trying so hard to get rid of the ball with a defender wrapped around him… Geez.

  6. Isn’t the problem just as much, if not more so, with the o-line here? If they had decent protection, Rosen wouldn’t have to run his ass off scrambling from pressure all night. I realize you don’t want a QB getting too wild west, but telling him that he should play it safe and get slammed around all night because the protection sucks doesn’t seem satisfactory.

  7. Very rarely to you eliminate the “gunslinger” mentality. See Brett Farve, Jay Cutler, Tony Romo (although he got better late in his career). It’s who they are…and more often than not, they break your heart. There’s a big difference in taking intelligent chances and slinging the ball around, most “gunslingers” never figure it out because they think they can fit every ball into every window.

  8. leroysbutler says:
    August 9, 2019 at 9:20 am

    How did that work with Favre?

    *****************************

    Just CALLING a QB a “Gunslinger” does not magically make him the athletic equivalent of Brett Favre.

    Favre was BIGGER, STRONGER, and has a WAY stronger arm than Rosen. So, when he decided to “Let it rip” he got away with it MOST of the time because he could get the ball into REALLY tight windows that most Qbs could not.

    Did it burn Favre sometimes? For sure. He had a LOT of INTs.

    But the fact that he won more games than he lost and more often than not came up with the right stuff in crunch time made him OK to be a “gunslinger”

  9. Everything always starts with the line, and Miami doesn’t have a good one. When the QBs can’t get protection, everything breaks down. QBs start running for their lives. Interceptions get thrown. Sacks are taken. Balls are thrown away. Plays disintegrate. And it all happens because the line doesn’t block well. You can’t blame a QB when they have to give up on a play because there’s no protection up front.

  10. “Gunslinger”
    OMG. LMAO. ROTFLMAO..
    Rosen is about as much of a “gunslinger” as Barney Fife was.

  11. Little worried about the O-Line, but I also know that there were two rookies in the game, that need to be thrown into the fire. Hopefully, they will continue to progress as the pre-season goes on. It all starts up front, and we need them to be on their game, if either QB is to succeed. How about that 6-5 stud Preston…. We definitely have an insurance policy for Parker. But imagine if Parker can stay healthy…. Think about this, Parker, Preston, Kenny, Grant, and Wilson

  12. “At some point as a quarterback, you have to take a sack. That’s the play,”
    _______________

    This came out of the mouth of an NFL coach? That’s NEVER the play. You get rid of the ball for an incompletion. When did you last see a guy like Tom Brady take a sack?

  13. Favre holds the record for the most interceptions.

    Favre was a gunslinger for sure. In the old west, he would have been the baddest and fastest guy to draw. He would have been the first to shoot, but would have hit a lot of innocent people along with the other guy.

  14. mogogo1 says:
    August 9, 2019 at 10:55 am
    “At some point as a quarterback, you have to take a sack. That’s the play,”
    _______________

    This came out of the mouth of an NFL coach? That’s NEVER the play. You get rid of the ball for an incompletion. When did you last see a guy like Tom Brady take a sack?

    That comment made me think Flores is the real deal.

    Brady avoids sacks but he accepts the play is over by throwing the ball out of bounds or at the feet of a covered receiver. He didn’t get that instinct in year 1 or 2.

    The pats mentality is to never try to win the game on one play. It’s why you’ll see players slide for cover or run out of bounds. Getting injured or turning the ball over for a few more yards or a risky 3rd down conversion is not worth it.

    I think the Dolphins will improve significantly over the next 3 years.

  15. This problem lies on the O-line, not on Rosen.

    Miami’s O-line looked a lot like AZ’s last year. Ouch.

  16. they better hope Jim Caldwell gets healthy and gets back to coaching soon, before they completely ruin this kid.

  17. Give a guy a chance. Dolphin fans want the next Marino and he sure had a gunslinger mentality. Did Tannehill? Don’t think so. Give Rosen a decent front line where he isn’t running for his life. At least you know what you got going into the 2020 draft.

    BTW, Rosen has had 6 OC’s since he first enrolled at UCLA. Three at UCLA, Two last year in Arizona(first one fired mid season) and now one in Miami. How many of you had a different boss for 5 straight years??? :)))

  18. To put the coaches comments in context, Rosen had spotty protection in his three years in UCLA, an all-time awful OL last season in AZ, and now spotty protection again in Miami….there might be a real fear that with all those guys right in his face mask, he may never learn to set his feet in the pocket and deliver the ball the way his arm portends…..still incumbent on Flores and his staff to build a decent OL, but also doesn’t want Rosen to become the next David Carr….

  19. When in the world will they focus on putting together a quality Offensive line? every year it’s patchwork.

  20. We got our Franchise QB and a solid #2 in Rudduck can probably cut Fitzpatrick after this season, gives us the best chance to pick the best available player in next years draft since we won’t be pigeonholed into taking a QB or wasting our draft commodities to try and move up and draft a franchise QB. Kinda reminds me how the Seahawks lucked out and were able to draft Russell Wilson in the 3rd round and pay peanuts for a franchise QB.

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