Pat Shurmur keeps the door open to the possibility of Daniel Jones starting Week One

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Giants co-owner John Mara is rooting for quarterback Eli Manning to play the full season. Mara’s dream scenario could still be derailed when the season starts.

Consider the following answer from coach Pat Shurmur, who interrupted this very direct and simple question from a reporter: “Do you like Daniel enough to give him a shot at the job earlier than –”

“I’ve said it all along. Daniel, when it’s his time to play is gonna be ready, and we’re gonna continue to get him ready,” Shurmur replied. “We got a couple of weeks left before we play Dallas.”

Let that sink in for a minute, and then go back and read it again. Shurmur didn’t say, “Eli is the Week One starter.” Shurmur kept the door open for Jones to get the start, deliberately mentioning the Week One game against the Cowboys.

It’s hard to reconcile that with Mara’s recent musings, especially since Shurmur has previously made it clear that he defers to the boss. If that’s the case, though, why not declare Eli Manning to be the season-starting starter?

Here’s one possibility: The Giants may be trying to push Eli’s buttons a little, hoping that he gets a little (or a lot) pissed off about the uncertainty and that he responds well to having Jones hovering over his shoulder. When I raised that one with Chris Simms during Friday’s PFT Live, he said that’s precisely the kind of thing that some coaches (like Jon Gruden) would do.

Regardless, Jones is looking like a guy who deserved to be the sixth pick in the draft. And he’s handling extremely well the noise and the pressure and everything that goes along with being the quarterback of an NFL franchise headquartered in New York. The only question left for the Giants is whether they will decide that it’s time to lay the foundation for the future by breaking from the past, or whether they will wait for the murmurs that favor passing the torch to become a full-throated scream.

28 responses to “Pat Shurmur keeps the door open to the possibility of Daniel Jones starting Week One

  1. Jones has looked every bit the #6 pick but it’s still only pre-season and he has not seen complicated defensive schemes or game plans. The scenario will be that Manning starts and as long as he is playing well and the Giants are winning, he will be the QB. Once the Giants are out of playoff contention Jones will get the nod.

  2. “It’s disingenuous, in my view, for reporters to play that “gotcha!” game, treating every word uttered during an encounter with the subject of an interview as fair game unless and until the subject of the interview utters the magic words: “Off the record.””

    Let that sink in for a minute…

  3. Can’t believe we still do this every year. It’s PRESEASON. Jones could post perfect stats in every game and it means absolutely nothing. These are not real NFL players or real NFL defensive schemes.

  4. No ones talking about the zip that Eil is putting on the ball. Far more zip than any of us has seen in recent time. However Jones is getting the ball out quicker and further down the field. Those deep balls might be there in regular season though against top talent.

  5. Slow your roll guys, the regular season might just eat him alive. If he starts and the game is too big for him, the setback could be career damaging.

  6. I’m leaning toward Eli starting the season, but with a real short leash, as in 1 bad game and Daniel Jones starts the next week type leash, especially when those same fans who booed him being picked are clamoring for him to start after a bad performance by Manning. Giants may be best served by trading Eli while he still has perceived value if they know he isn’t going to be starting for very long.

  7. chickensalad43 says:
    August 23, 2019 at 11:48 am
    Can’t believe we still do this every year. It’s PRESEASON. Jones could post perfect stats in every game and it means absolutely nothing.
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    I respectfully disagree.

    Dak Prescott.

    I gotta agree with Dak. It does mean something.
    CBS’s Tony Romo.

  8. Imagine this scenario:

    Jones is the opening day starter and has a mediocre at best game
    He starts the 2nd game and has a so-so at best outing. Same for game 3. Game 4 and 5 he has worse outings.

    What do the Giants do? Go back to Eli?

    This is how HCs get fired.

    You start with Eli and work Jones in.

  9. chickensalad43 says: “Can’t believe we still do this every year. It’s PRESEASON. Jones could post perfect stats in every game and it means absolutely nothing. These are not real NFL players or real NFL defensive schemes.”
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    Baby steps.

    Point is that he’s performing well – which is better than not performing well even against scrubs. Whether he’s ready for regular season duty is just another step in the process.

  10. Jones will start this season, it’s just a matter of when. I like Eli, but it comes down to getting the job done. Eli will start week 1 I think, and will start until either he’s so bad they have to put Jones in or until the Giants are losing. I’m going to bet on Oct. 20th at home against the Cardinals after the Giants lose to the Patriots on Thursday night football. That gives them 10 days to get Jones ready for the Cardinals.

  11. Florio is a lawyer, and from where I’m sitting, he’s probably a good lawyer. Lawyers often parse quotes and take things out of context – or read things into a small part of a quote that don’t jibe with what the speaker actually meant. I think that is what is going on here. There is no way DJ is starting week one. Not gonna happen.

  12. Coaches go with the quarterback that he thinks will most likely get him wins. Sentimentality is way down the list of priorities.

  13. Haskins > Jones … Haskins throws that ball real pretty even with guys hanging on him and he plays with the scrubs making him have to work harder … Jones plays behind the first string looking pretty against back ups.

  14. Shurmer is only 19 games under .500 as a coach, so it should be obvious he knows what he’s doing, guys.

  15. I get it but to say that quarterback stats in preseason is meaningless isn’t accurate. In a lot of cases a qb that performed well in the preseason also performs well in the regular season. Mahomes last year is one example.

  16. This is exactly like Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs. Andy Reid drafted Mahomes to be the starter, and he was the best QB the minute he arrived in town. But they had Alex Smith, who, like Eli Manning, was a great guy to learn from. As soon as the youngsters are ready, they play. If there is an injury to the veteran, they’d play sooner. I’m sure the plan has always been for Daniel Jones to be the week 1 starter in 2020. Eli would be the week 1 starter in 2019. What happens in between is still up in the air, and hasn’t been determined. Does Eli stay healthy? Does Eli start out 6-0? Does Eli start out 0-6? It’s kind of like playing cards. You really don’t know what you’re going to do until you look at your hand. If you have an elite franchise QB, you don’t need to throw him onto the field prematurely. Andy Reid’s plan worked out pretty good. Be patient. Immediate gratification will have to wait a while.

  17. chickensalad43 says:

    August 23, 2019 at 11:48 am

    Can’t believe we still do this every year. It’s PRESEASON. Jones could post perfect stats in every game and it means absolutely nothing. These are not real NFL players or real NFL defensive schemes.
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    This is the best group of football players he’s played against (and with) and he’s excelling. Can’t ask much more from a developmental standpoint.

  18. I love how everyone is trying to trap a coach into saying something, if I was out looking for a job and my boss asked , “ I heard you are out looking for a job” what do you say? “ well yes actually I have any interview on Friday, if it goes well and they offer my a job I am out of here,if it doesn’t, I will stay, thanks for asking” Sometimes you can’t always say 100% what’s on your mind

  19. frodoftw7 says:
    August 23, 2019 at 2:02 pm
    I get it but to say that quarterback stats in preseason is meaningless isn’t accurate. In a lot of cases a qb that performed well in the preseason also performs well in the regular season. Mahomes last year is one example.
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    That isn’t true at all. Go look at Deshaun Watson’s pre-season stats his rookie year they were pretty freaking bad only for him to come out lighting it up once the regular season started and they ran their actual offense. Look at Cam Newton’s , Lamar Jackson, Carson Wentz etc etc on and on all struggled during the preseason of their rookie years only to thrive in the regular season. The QB you brought up, Patrick Mahomes, was terrible in the “dress rehearsal” game of his rookie year preseason week 3. In the one pre season game Josh Rosen started last season he looked like a world beater posting a 102 passer rating w/ 1TD to no INTs, and then the games started to count and we saw what happened .

    The pre-season means nothing really. The Giants gave Jones every advantage in the book, starting him behind the starting OL with his starting receivers while going against backups and scripting his game plan to ensure the NY didn’t explode & the media didn’t come down on a Anvil just waiting to pounce. Let’s see how Jones looks against starting defenses specifically game planning for Jones and that offense, game planning to take those easy throws away sending a ton of pressure his way & playing tight man coverage on the outside all of which is where he really struggles. The Giants know all this and Shurmur is well aware of what’s going to take place when the regular season starts which is why he isn’t going to start Daniel Jones week 1.

  20. Speculation? There is other things of interest to talk about!
    Coach has repeatedly said ELI IS THE STARTER
    Moronic to think anything would change!

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