Keenan Allen doesn’t think Carli Lloyd will cut it as an NFL kicker

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At a time when U.S. soccer star Carli Lloyd could be moving toward becoming an NFL kicker, she will inevitably meet some resistance.

One current NFL player has provided a bit of it with his views on the possibility of a female on the football field.

“Sound sweet til somebody block the kick and all of a sudden she on defense,” Chargers receiver Keenan Allen said on Twitter. “Would be like the stampede scene in the lion king movie.”

As if it’s not that way with non-female kickers. Plenty of current and historical NFL kickers lack the traditional stature, physique, athletic skills, and or/toughness possessed by “normal” football players. Surely, a soccer player (who has to have the ability to throw the ball from the sideline) would fare better than, say, Garo Yepremian in Super Bowl VII. Also, was anyone freaked out about players like Rich Karlis were running around with a completely bare lower leg and foot?

Then there’s Bill Gramatica, who was sufficiently awkward and ungainly to tear an ACL while leaping to celebrate after making a field goal.

Lloyd’s experience in soccer means that she knows a thing or two about making contact, absorbing contact, and otherwise moving in an agile, elusive way to avoid contact. She frankly could be considerably more athletic than more than a few of the kickers currently in the NFL.

But at least Allen offered some praise for Lloyd. “She do got a boot tho!” Allen said.

Yes she does, and that’s the primary skills that teams are looking for when it comes to kickers. For most kickers, a blocked kick would result in a stampede, with the kicker’s primary goal becoming finding a way to get out of the way.

30 responses to “Keenan Allen doesn’t think Carli Lloyd will cut it as an NFL kicker

  1. Honestly, it’s great that her leg is strong enough to kick a single unguarded field goal of 55 yards, but it’s a completely different thing to have an oncoming rush and then what the heck is going to happen when she has to block and tackle a man that is 2-3x her weight??? And she would certainly have to use the same dressing room. When she passes all that and beats out the other kickers on the team, then we can talk. At this point it is nothing more than a gimmick and a story to talk about.

  2. This isn’t 1982. Kickers and punters are much more well rounded athletes. Blocked extra points aren’t a concern, the kickoff is.

  3. The bottom line is, it would not be safe. And the moment she gets hit hard and injured, the player that laid the hit will be blamed for hitting her too hard even if he didn’t mean to. If hitting her hard on a block would win the game then its fair game.

  4. Why her though? What makes her better than all the other soccer pros who can kick field goals? I would love to see her make a team, I think it would be wonderful, but I want that to happen due to her beating out other kickers and not as a gimmick. Doing it in pads, with 1 second left in a game is different than scoring a goal in extra time.

    But, I would love for her to have the opportunity to compete.

  5. I say give it a try and let’s see what happens. Could turn out to be great or she could fail miserably and officially end this experiment. NFL Football now in 2019 is basically a non contact sport anyway.

  6. She isn’t becoming a professional football player and Tim Tebow is not making it the big show. No one is going to sign a 36 year old experiment.

  7. Too many of these feel good articles are overlooking the fact that she took 5 steps to hit the 55 yarder. NFL kickers take 2 and they are starting their approach before the ball is placed. I don’t see her having nearly the same range with a shorter approach,

    How about kickoffs? What happens when a return breaks and she has to get involved in trying to make a tackle. She will get crushed. A 37 year old woman in a heap on the field after being blown up by a blocker is not a great look.

  8. Keenan probably has a point.
    If a woman had to block or tackle she would probably be less effective than a male kicker.
    That’s a slight negative that needs to be added to the overall evaluation of her net value.

  9. Man Stop!!!!!!! she has no business even trying out or considering this. Imagine the uproar if tiger woods signed up for the LPGA, or LeBron James signed up for the WNBA, or even Roger Fedderer tried to play in the WTA!!!

  10. All for giving a woman an opportunity and would be thrilled if she succeeded, but Harry Kane got crap for saying his ambition was to be an nfl kicker after soccer was over.

    Everyone said he had zero chance.

  11. You have to evaluate a player based on the sum of what they contribute or cost.
    Most of a kickers value is from kicking, but some is based on the kick return (tackling, not getting blocked out).

    If a woman had to block or tackle she would probably be less effective than a male kicker. That’s a slight negative that needs to be added to the overall evaluation of her net value. A great kicker can overcome that. An on the bubble one probably not.

  12. How many blocked kicks are there on average in a season, per team? Probably pretty low, no?

    I agree with Florio that her athleticism from her soccer career does help (and that it can probably be compared to the athletic prowess of other NFL kickers).

    Who’s to say that she isn’t a faster runner than any one of the other 32 kickers in the league (to be able to track a returner and tackle/force out of bounds?

  13. So people are so worried about the off chance that a kick is blocked. At the end of the day, she is a athlete. More so than anyone here commenting on it. And its not like she is some fray individual. If she wants to make that attempt let her…

    I think everyone is just scared that maybe, just maybe she will succeed. And that change scares people.

  14. Yepremian was 175 pounds. Jake Elliot, who is a pretty small kicker, is listed at 167 pounds. Lloyd is 140. Maybe you haven’t seen the Lion King lately, but Allen isn’t saying that players would be scared into a stampede. He’s saying Lloyd would be surrounded by wildebeests running right at her. It’s actually a pretty good comparison.

    Sure, Lloyd would handle the ball better than Yepremian. But that’s not what Allen is talking about. The Gramatica and Rich Karlis inclusions are just silly and make no sense in this context.

  15. >>Doug L says:
    August 29, 2019 at 9:02 am
    So people are so worried about the off chance that a kick is blocked. At the end of the day, she is a athlete. More so than anyone here commenting on it. And its not like she is some fray individual. If she wants to make that attempt let her…

    She may be an athlete but so are the players in the NFL, who are a lot bigger and stronger than she is. In a physical sport like pro football, size and strength do matter. She may be tougher than me, she isn’t stronger and tougher than a starting special teamer, who is hungry and trying to keep their job.

  16. It’s all a PR stunt. You would think teams would be trying out guy soccer players now who could definitely out kick her.

  17. So the NFL would allow a 140-pounds female on the field but won’t allow to have high school or college football players to declare whenever they want because they are not physically ready…

  18. Athletically she is a lot better than just about any kicker in the NFL. Trindon Holliday was 5’5″ and 165 lbs as a Kick Returner. Lloyd is 5’7″ and 141 lbs. Roughly 24 lbs less will make a difference, but the rules have changed a little so she’s not going to get blindside blocked, about the only thing she would need to do is dive at the legs of a kick returner as the last one back.

    Her biggest challenge is learning to kick like a kicker and not like a soccer player.

  19. As soon as there is a botched snap and she has to pick the ball up or fall on it and she gets pilled on or a 250 LB linebacker puts his shoulder into her and she gets hurt that player will be ridiculed for playing to rough. There is a reason there are men’s sports leagues and women’s sports leagues. Pro football has gotten soft enough!

  20. How well does she kick when she doesn’t take a 5 step run to the ball? What I see are nice kicks, but let’s face it, they’re also not kicks she’d ever be making in a game. If she can be the best kicker on a team with no bias for or against her being female, fine – but I don’t want to hear anyone crying when she gets planted into the field. No reason to go soft on her – she should be treated as a football player – not a female football player.

  21. “So people are so worried about the off chance that a kick is blocked. At the end of the day, she is a athlete. More so than anyone here commenting on it. And its not like she is some fray individual. If she wants to make that attempt let her…”

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    Her technique is not right for NFL kicking. The amount of time it took her to make contact with the ball and the low trajectory would have resulted in a block for the 55 yard attempt. She is much more an athlete than most people commentating, if not all people, but she is not an NFL kicker any more than Jake Elliot is a world champion soccer player.

    Could she do it? I believe she could, with practice. Lloyd certainly has the leg for it. But it is an uphill battle to make a roster and while she has some advantage with her name and the positive publicity of signing a female kicker, the fact of the matter is right now she is not ready yet if this is something Lloyd wants to do. I think it is much more useful to revisit this discussion if Lloyd attempts to take this on as a career and develops her technique further, instead of dwelling on hypotheticals right now.

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