Yes, multiple players already want out of Miami

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It made a stir on Sunday night. It’s been confirmed on Tuesday morning.

Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald echoes and elaborates on our report that multiple Dolphins players already have asked their agents to find a new team for them.

As Salguero explains it, players were surprised by a defensive game plan that triple-dog dared Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson to throw, and that didn’t adjust once he put his tongue on the frozen flagpole.

Miami went into the game with no deep safety help, and Miami provided no deep safety help even after Jackson repeatedly exploited the flaw in the Dolphins’ defense. That failure to make a fairly obvious adjustment has contributed to the perception that the coaching staff isn’t really trying to win.

The Dolphins get their next chance to change the narrative on Sunday, when the Patriots come to town. In other words, the Dolphins get their next chance to change the narrative the following Sunday, when the Dolphins play the Cowboys. In other words, the Dolphins get their next chance to change the narrative the following Sunday, against the Chargers.

In other words, the narrative probably won’t be changing for a while.

73 responses to “Yes, multiple players already want out of Miami

  1. This is another rookie HC from the BB tree, how many of them have been any good? Not that one game is a barometer but does not seem to be trending favorably…..

  2. I still call this fake news. Armando Salguero has been circling the drain as a reputable Dolphins beat reporter ever since Edwin Pope passed away. Coaches coach, but the players still have to execute. Ok, so they dared a QB that had 5TD passes all of last year to throw. But what about the running attack on the first run of the game? Did the coaches tell the players to open that huge whole? I get that there is a coaches gameplan and the players need to follow it, but at the same time, the players need to execute on that game plan. Apply pressure, stop the run, cover a WR and don’t let him BLOW BY YOU on every play. Let the players want out…..they’re not going anywhere. Suck it up, buttercups

  3. When the going gets tough…We ask to be traded.

    My how times have changed. Changed too fast.

    Then: Pull yourself up by the bootstraps.

    Now: That would require effort. You got anything easier?

  4. What’s the record for four worst losses to start the season? I feel like they really have a shot at that record. Baltimore might have been the worst offense that they’re going to play.

  5. They are obviously trying to tank, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they do try go all out and win against the Patriots. Flores purposely kept everything vanilla because he was resigned to losing last week and has been focused on this Patriots game all off-season, ignoring the ravens.

  6. As Salguero explains it, players were surprised by a defensive game plan that triple-dog dared Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson to throw, and that didn’t adjust once he put his tongue on the frozen flagpole.

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    This analogy hurt my brain…

  7. The gameplan wasn’t the issue. I think most would want Jackson to prove he can throw. The problem is not making the proper adjustments after getting burned multiple times. With speed like Brown, I’d thought they would keep a safety over top and force him to make accurate medium throws as opposed to getting air under it and letting the receiver run under it.

  8. My local school district just canceled the varsity football year as the players were overmatched and they were concerned about injuries.

    Does the NFL have a season forfeit rule? or like pop warner a scoring rule?

  9. factschecker says:
    September 10, 2019 at 11:28 am
    When the going gets tough…We ask to be traded.

    My how times have changed. Changed too fast.

    Then: Pull yourself up by the bootstraps.

    Now: That would require effort. You got anything easier?

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    I generally agree with your logic but there are exceptions. If the reports are true and the coaches don’t actually give a damn, why should the players have to be a part of that?

  10. Been the same narrative since 1984 cant get back to the sb know matter who owns the team of coaches or plays for them.

  11. The problem with tanking is everyone recognizes it and applauds it, but the coaches (even hired under the understanding), will never see it through since the Fake News Media loves the drama.

  12. I dont care if they are tanking or no. No Defensive minded HC should ever lose by basically 50 pts. Ever. Flores looks like he’s way out of his league. I wouldn’t be surprised if they let him go after the season, dont matter if they gave him the extra year. Chris Grier obviously has no idea what he’s doing, 3 seasons of tanking under him has gotten them no where.

  13. Wow. Who knew that Vaphinfan could actually make a cogent football analysis as he does above. It shows you what Patriots haters are capable of when they are not speaking with teal green envy.

  14. This sounds really familiar, “players wanting out” Green Baby has been dealing with this forever. Every player they got can’t wait to leave the dump by a lake.

  15. “This is another rookie HC from the BB tree, how many of them have been any good? Not that one game is a barometer but does not seem to be trending favorably…..”

    Flores is a fine coach who was handed a roster gutted of many of its better players in the off season, including his starting LT and a starting receiver just a few days prior to the first game.

    This is on the GM and ownership, not on Flores.

  16. Does the team have safe spot players and fans to go when they get this upset? I think I just pulled a soft tissue (name one) and need to go IR, was number one injury report this am.

  17. With so so soooo many college football players, the chances to make it to the NFL are really really small. I know that the Dolphins have been a terrible team for a while, but still players should be thankful to be playing at a professional level, and try to improve themselves. Sad times we live now when people is unhappy making millions of dollars.

  18. happy1114 says:
    September 10, 2019 at 11:22 am
    This is another rookie HC from the BB tree, how many of them have been any good? Not that one game is a barometer but does not seem to be trending favorably…..
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    You’re right ONE GAME is not a barometer. This is an excellent coach that literally had all of his top talent traded away so stop passing premature judgment

  19. …and after THAT sorry performance, what team would want any of those player trying to get out of Miami. “I suck, please trade for me” For about the first time in a decade, I’m not worried about the Pats going to Miami for a game in the heat.

  20. James Jackson says:
    September 10, 2019 at 11:33 am
    This is a sad situation. But as a Bills fan I hope nothing but the worst for the Dolphins.

    LOL, funny stuff. I guess twenty straight losses to the Dolphins still has you frosty. 🙂

  21. In defense of the Dolphins, their entire gameplan was to force Lamar Jackson to throw the ball. Where they were successful was limiting him to 6 yards rushing. Where they were unsuccessful was in 1:1 pass defense and stopping the running backs. They went all in on preventing Jackson from running the ball but had no success with the other aspects.

    I’d expect them to be significantly improved on that side of the ball when they can play more of a base defense. I’m not sure if we’ll see that vs. the Patriots next week, but they will improve.

  22. “tajuara says:
    September 10, 2019 at 12:09 pm
    With so so soooo many college football players, the chances to make it to the NFL are really really small. I know that the Dolphins have been a terrible team for a while, but still players should be thankful to be playing at a professional level, and try to improve themselves. Sad times we live now when people is unhappy making millions of dollars.”

    I think it’s the oppisite in this case, these guys are gonna get paid regardless, but the Dolphins that want out actually do care about winning and don’t want to be part of intentional losing.

  23. That doesn’t sound like NE. They are known to adjust constantly. Sounds like the same stuff that was written about Patricia in his first season with the Lions. Players revolting.

  24. I sorta feel for the good players in Miami who want out, whoever they are. They are lowering their market value by being part of such a terrible team.

    However I don’t really blame the coach and gm for “tanking”. For many years they were tight against the cap with nothing to show for it, no impact players, and no good young players coming from the draft. They have to bottom out and start over.

    If you would of asked anyone how to stop Lamar Jackson, they would have told you to keep him in the pocket and force him to beat you. Unfortunately he brushed up on his passing skills and Hollywood Brown was running wild all over that secondary.

  25. Salguero used to write for an old Dolphins website that I was part of. I wouldn’t call him a fan at all, just a writer looking for a story, and tends to exaggerate.
    I think he’s full of crap. Players knew what they are in for good or bad. They all bought in months ago or they were gone.
    There may be a straggler or 2 left, but he makes it sound like a coup.
    I tend to ignore most everything he reports.

  26. Why would anyone want to trade for someone that is tanking on a team,if you aren’t tanking and lose by almost 50 it just means you aren’t very good,so who’d want you?

  27. Great the Dolphins are ruining the integrity of the sport trying to lose on purpose, this is the equivalent of FIXING a game!

    As a season ticket holder since 1978, i am done once and for all, hope they fail for decades to come.

  28. Dolphins opponents will cover at least 10-12 spreads this year. You literally cannot lose money for the season if you just bet against them every week.

  29. The NFL really needs to take over this franchise at this point, you cannot have a team trying to lose games no matter how bad they are talent wise!

    Roger stop worrying about the Patriots and get down here!

  30. All this gloom and doom in Miami. Its actually the worst thing possible for the Patriots because it just makes a win over the Patriots something this team more desperately needs. Even if tanking grabbing this victory on the way can keep a lot if heat off. And the way trap games work the more unlikely it looks the likelier it gets. Its weird.

  31. MortimerInMiami says:
    September 10, 2019 at 12:51 pm
    Great the Dolphins are ruining the integrity of the sport trying to lose on purpose, this is the equivalent of FIXING a game!

    As a season ticket holder since 1978, i am done once and for all, hope they fail for decades to come.
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    It gives Belichick a good place to stick AB if that starts not working out. He used to use the Browns for that.

  32. Here comes all the novice fins fans calling their players “spoilt” and criticizing them. If you watched the saints vs Texans game you should be able to understand why these players want to go. Criticize Stills and Tunsil all you want but they looked different playing on a Texans team that is actually trying. Minkah Fitzpatrick looked AWFUL on Sunday… Minkah has to do what the coach tells him even if it means letting Lamar Jackson and Hollywood Brown play catch over his head in 100 degree whether while fans sit in A/C dogging them and Chris Grier and Ross look on not knowing what the next move is. Things are going to explode in that locker room after a few blow out losses. Miami fans deserve better than this.

  33. Wisconsin’s Favorite Son Jeffrey Be Dahmed says:
    September 10, 2019 at 11:35 am
    Wow. That’s like it is in Green Bay. Without the tanking.
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    Right. Because no player wants to walk past four Super Bowl trophies every day, to go along with nine other world titles. No, they’d rather walk past zero trophies and 10,000 trailer parks in Minnehaha. Right.

  34. I can sympathize with the players, it’s no fun playing on a team thats given up from day 1.
    But your career is short, so make teh most of it.
    Stand out by playing hard while the other guys don’t try as hard.
    Hopefully the coaches notice and keep you around next year and the year after and keep paying you many hundreds of thousands of dollars a year.

    Real life doesn’t pay like the NFL, so getting an extra year of > $600K can help make the rest of your life easier.

  35. It is great to learn that ” MortimerIn Miami” is done once and for all. Will this mean you will have a new team to watch? Bill

  36. bsizemore68 says:
    September 10, 2019 at 1:43 pm
    It is great to learn that ” MortimerIn Miami” is done once and for all. Will this mean you will have a new team to watch? Bill

    I’ll be happy watching games where teams are actually trying to compete and win.

    How can any Dolphin fan support this franchise any longer knowing they are intentionally throwing games?
    Its one thing to have a bad team, fine, but to lose on purpose is fixing games.

  37. All these privileged and entitled brats always want to be on a winning team. Well that’s not how life is or professional sports operates. Suck it up, be a professional and act like an adult. If you don’t like it then go join the work force making minimum wage like many Americans do.

  38. The Eagles should trade for Xavier Howard, as they need help covering the deep ball in man to man. Especially since Roseman blew the potential acquisition of Clowney . . . their defensive ends literally got no pressure on the QB this past weekend and Keenan had a ton of time to throw the ball. It was only due it him overthrowing a wide open receiver that they didn’t immediately score after Philadelphia took the lead 21-20. The cast a mediocre talent at the defensive end position is going to be the downfall of an otherwise loaded Philadelphia team and Roseman had the perfect opportunity to address the position with a one year low cost (3rd round pick) rental of Clowney. That non-trade is going to cost them a real chance at a SB run.

  39. Can somebody please show me a team that tanked and got to a Super Bowl because of the first pick in the draft. Not sure if it has ever happened. The NFL is not the NBA where five guys are on the court at any time and one player makes up 20% of the team.

  40. ajsjr40 says:
    September 10, 2019 at 2:18 pm
    Can somebody please show me a team that tanked and got to a Super Bowl because of the first pick in the draft. Not sure if it has ever happened.

    Please see 1988 & 89 Dallas Cowboys….

  41. happy1114 says:
    September 10, 2019 at 11:22 am
    This is another rookie HC from the BB tree, how many of them have been any good? Not that one game is a barometer but does not seem to be trending favorably…..

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    There isnt a lot to criticize NE coaching about, so we have resorted to grasping at straws…

  42. The Rams are a pretty good example. The 1989 Dallas Cowboys are another. And I disagree – today’s NFL makes having a star QB hugely important to winning (more so than in the past) And your odds of getting a franchise QB go up greatly if you pick one in top 3.

    Add to this the wave of “safe pick” studs coming out in the next two years at QB and Brady/Belichick still being around and it makes perfect sense for the Dolphins to stop being mediocre and try and tank and collect picks to build for the future.

  43. happy1114 says:
    September 10, 2019 at 11:22 am
    This is another rookie HC from the BB tree, how many of them have been any good? Not that one game is a barometer but does not seem to be trending favorably…..

    Harder to win when you don’t have the other teams’ playbooks.

  44. toothfairyretributionmanifesto says:
    September 10, 2019 at 11:29 am
    They are obviously trying to tank, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they do try go all out and win against the Patriots. Flores purposely kept everything vanilla because he was resigned to losing last week and has been focused on this Patriots game all off-season, ignoring the ravens.

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    And if that were true… why would it be a good idea?

  45. fishyinalittledishy says:
    September 10, 2019 at 2:33 pm
    We had the upper hand and pinned them back on the opening kick off. Let’s take some positives from the game. It not all doom and gloom.

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    The Fins Super Bowl odds went to 10,000-1. I would say that sounds pretty gloomy.

  46. So, the coaches want to make everyone who might hire them in the future think they are incompetent?

    Well… everyone knows they are tanking, so those that hire will know they aren’t bad coaches.

    If everyone knows, that means the other teams that end up with the 2nd & 3rd pick wont insist on consequences?

    Was trading for Rosen a rouse to make us not see they are tanking? Let’s trade for a QB, then tank fir a QB?

  47. Players still have to play the game. Trade, cut, whatever. Any player that didnt take personal responsibility for a 59-10 loss shows they dont belong on a team; moreover, in the NFL.
    Quitters are a cancer in the locker room.

  48. For decades, I’ve just shaken my head seeing players choose to leave a good team, even a great team, to go to a mediocre or bad team just for dollars. And the egos. So I have little sympathy for players who are caught up in a full-on rebuild. From time to time, a player on a good or great team is traded to a bad team, just as a player on a bad team gets traded on occasion to a good team. It’s the game. It would just be nice to see one team other than NE in the AFC East actually field a football team.

    LOL at the Pats fans here trying to defend BB’s coaching tree. Too funny.

  49. Armando Salguero has been circling the drain as a reputable Dolphins beat reporter ever since Edwin Pope passed away
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    don’t know salguero, don’t follow the fish, but I imagine they have as many know-nothing, second-guessing media types in miami as in boston where they’ve been making up bs stories to run belichick out of town for 20 years

  50. MortimerInMiami says:
    September 10, 2019 at 2:33 pm
    ajsjr40 says:
    September 10, 2019 at 2:18 pm
    Can somebody please show me a team that tanked and got to a Super Bowl because of the first pick in the draft. Not sure if it has ever happened.

    Please see 1988 & 89 Dallas Cowboys. Aikmen stunk out the gate they got good after the dumb walker trade that gave them tons of picks .

  51. I take everything Salguero says with a grain of salt.
    However, if a few of the players did express a desire to leave because they didn’t like losing, maybe they need to PLAY BETTER on the field.

  52. You don’t have to attack sports writers for telling the truth. The Vegas line says it all; 17.5 points when the Dolphins are at home. It is arguably the best AFC team playing the the worst AFC team. This week’s game could be a bigger blow out than last weeks game. Let’s hope the Pats find some charity in their hearts and play the bench during the second half of the game. The trade of Laremy Tunsil revealed the ugly truth to those that maintained any illusion over the “rebuilding” mode the Dolphins claimed they were operating within. NOPE! This is the tank mode full blown. We have stocked massive draft picks and salary cap room for next year’s draft.

    The problem is that they didn’t keep the components of this years team that could be used next year. Tunsil is a good example. They might as well trade everyone who wants out for whatever draft pick and or broken down journeyman player they can get this year. They need guys on the roster that are just happy to get a check and won’t complain about rookie coaches and a threadbare roster. There is no sense purchasing a ticket for this season or even next season. Next years all rookie roster will be led by the same coaching staff that is learning on the job this year. Remember, no Patriot coaches have done well on their own. They need the master sorcerer, Coach Belichick, to think for them. Flores was LB coach and gopher, not even a defensive coordinator.

    Ross needs to sell this team! He is a wonderful human being but a lousy owner.

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