Will Antonio Brown play on Sunday?

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Often lost in the latest twist in the Antonio Brown saga is that his new team plays a game in three days. Will Brown play in that game?

The NFL continues to send signals that the newest Patriots receiver could land quickly on the Commissioner-Exempt list. Some interpret the language of the Personal Conduct Policy to mean that, in the absence of criminal charges, Brown can’t be placed on paid leave until the league fully investigates the allegations made against him in a civil suit.

Here’s the language of the policy that allows the Commissioner to utilize paid leave absent a criminal prosecution: “[W]hen an investigation leads the Commissioner to believe that a player may have violated this Policy by committing [sexual assault or rape], he may act where the circumstances and evidence warrant doing so. This decision will not reflect a finding of guilt or innocence and will not be guided by the same legal standards and considerations that would apply in a criminal trial.”

Nothing in the policy requires the investigation to be completed. Indeed, nothing in the policy requires the investigation to reach any specific point. There simply must be “an investigation” that “leads the Commissioner to believe” that Brown “may have violated” the policy by engaging in the conduct of which he stands accused, with the key considerations being the “circumstances and evidence.”

Through it all, the Commissioner doesn’t have to believe a violation actually occurred. He needs to conclude only that a violation “may” have occurred.

The word “circumstances” surely wasn’t an accidental inclusion. With the entire Personal Conduct Policy a P.R. tool aimed at taking formal action against employees who engage in behavior away from work that reflect badly on the employer, the question of how bad the behavior makes the employer look becomes relevant. If Brown “may have violated” the policy by committing sexual assault or rape, the NFL easily could conclude based on a limited investigation — without even speaking directly to the accuser — that Brown should not play until the full process concludes.

Ultimately, the NFL is going to do whatever the NFL wants to do. The fact that the NFL stubbornly refuses to regard paid leave as discipline makes it even easier to justify putting Brown on the sidelines. The absence of any meaningful appeal rights also will make it easier for the NFL to disregard the precedent it would be setting and to cling to the far more established habit of doing whatever it wants to do in any given case.

And if all else fails, don’t rule out a backroom deal between the Commissioner and the Patriots to keep Brown off the field for Sunday, based on the notion that he’s not ready to play. That would be the simplest solution until Brown’s accuser can be interviewed next week, and it would mesh with the manner in which the Patriots handled receiver Josh Gordon after his abrupt arrival a year ago.

However it plays out, it will be very easy for the NFL to keep Brown from playing. The only question at this point is whether the NFL wants to keep him from playing.

146 responses to “Will Antonio Brown play on Sunday?

  1. I don’t want to see this scumbag anywhere near professional football after the text messages I read. This guy is out of control. He tarnishes the game in the worst possible way.

  2. Two ways this could go-

    League says he can’t play = bulletin board material for Pats’ persecution complex

    League says he can play = huge distraction for well run team, puts them off their game

    How do Goodell and Jerrah want this season to go?

  3. I sure hope they fix this nonsense in the new CBA. The idea that the commissioner can just randomly suspend players without any evidence of wrong doing is (to put it simply) unamerican. It seems when the evidence supports a players evidence it is ignored far too many times.

  4. There are two options the Patriots can do. Either A let him sit out the first couple of Games till this issues gets resolved or B simply cut him and move on.I understand the Patriots have a strong organization that can handle this mess but the situation is getting out of control.

  5. Well, I suppose it’s ok if he doesn’t play so long as he’s on the sidelines and visible to the cameras. Actually, he should be miked-up and allowed to provide commentary during the game. Don’t ya think?

  6. “Indeed, nothing in the policy requires the investigation to reach any specific point.”
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    Not true. He may only do so “where the circumstances and evidence warrant doing so” and only “when an investigation leads” to it. There still has to be an investigation, and evidence. Though we saw with deflategate the NFL is happy to invent evidence if it needs to do so…

  7. Brown, Goodell and Rosenhaus need to get in the same room so they can get their lies and obfuscation straight before making a money-based decision while claiming to protect the “integrity” of the game. Play him, sit him or cut him. It doesn’t matter because this stupid soap opera isn’t going to end anytime soon.

  8. The Patriots will probably have 10-12 plays set up for Brown and will use them if the situation calls for it. I wouldn’t think AB would need to know the entire offense before he plays. Besides, just having him on the field is going to cause the defense some problems because he is a threat.

  9. eljefedelmundo says:
    September 12, 2019 at 7:09 am
    Two ways this could go-

    League says he can’t play = bulletin board material for Pats’ persecution complex

    League says he can play = huge distraction for well run team, puts them off their game

    How do Goodell and Jerrah want this season to go?

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    If Jerrah had any say on how a season goes he would have won a Super Bowl in the last 22 years.

  10. If the Patriots knew about the pending lawsuit. Shame on them. They have less integrity than I thought which was already none.

    Or if Rosenhaus didn’t tell the Patriots, I would be pissed I I was the Patriots and cut him and void the bonuses.

    Regardless Brown should have been suspended after threatening Mayock and the shenanigans he pulled on both the Steelers and Raiders. He was such a cancer on the Steelers they traded him with $21mm of dead cap.

    This is a guy that damaged his apartment and threw furniture over his balcony that almost hit a 2 year old and grandparent. This was last year.

    Brown doesn’t deserve to be in the league. Shame again on the Patriots for putting winning ahead of character.

  11. Brown has $5mm of incentives that will be difficult to reach if he doesn’t play 15 games. And even if he plays 15 games learning the Patriots offense might prohibit him from achieving the incentives.

    Will Brown throw a temper tantrum if he’s benched or has to share the ball. Get rid of Brown and admit him to a mental health facility.

  12. The NFL, and many other organizations, suspend with pay to avoid lawsuits. It is hard to assert you suffered damages when you continue to receive hundreds of thousands of dollars for doing nothing.

  13. “[W]hen an investigation leads the Commissioner to believe that a player may have violated this Policy by committing [sexual assault or rape], he may act where the circumstances and evidence warrant doing so.
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    The only problem is there has been no investigation yet. The “victim” will not testify until next week and you have to give Brown the chance to tell his side of the story and produce evidence of a consensual relationship (like photos and text messages which he may very well have). None of this will happen before Sunday.

  14. I’m guessing that if he has a decent grasp of the offense he’ll play….why wouldn’t he?? I mean they brought him there to play didn’t they??
    Let the league do their due diligence & ultimately react to how things are perceived rather than the facts (as they usually do)…
    I’m more curious what number he’ll be wearing

  15. Won’t any NFL investigation result in him being put on the exempt list? How would the NFL completely eliminate the possibility he did it? Seems unlikely they could. Therefore the standard that he “may” have done it will be met.

  16. “…that would apply in a criminal trial.” But, he’s not facing a criminal trial it’s a civil one. Does or doesn’t that matter in the wording?

    The overall accusation to me sounds fishy. He should be innocent until proven guilty, but, taking into consideration how Goodell feels about the Pats I doubt that’s how he’ll go about it. Especially when the league tries to keep a “squeaky clean” image. Yet, Tyreek Hill still gets to play.

    If the team has to pay AB I’d rather him play. Otherwise, cut him. Shame, since AB seems to be behaving so far. He already has shown up for more practices than he did with the Raiders. I knew we shouldn’t have gotten rid of Demaryius Thomas so quickly.

  17. Typically the pats don’t start guys the very next game when they join the team after the season starts. I would think it’s even more likely when a player might be facing the Exempt List.

    But trying to predict Bellichik is a silly endeavor, and with Miami being seen as a weaker opponent it might be that Bill would want to get him some reps, especially if the game is in hand.

  18. People better be VERY careful about wanting to throw AB in the commissioners proverbial jail house…Remember this is precedent setting. Imagine the quarterback (or star player) of your favorite team gets accused of a despicable act the week before the SuperBowl, with unverified facts…. are they getting benched??? The NFL better think long and hard before they pull this player off the field under these circumstances… even if he is a scumbag

  19. The Patriots can do the right thing and sit him this week to give actual facts and testimony to happen. My bet is that is exactly what will happen

  20. If I was BB I’d just leave him home for this trip. Sort of make Brown earn his way onto the field and see where things went from there. It’s a long way before the actual season starts (Thanksgiving) But that’s just me. And I am not BB.

  21. Expect this in the future: One week before the next Super Bowl, allegations are made by an individual against a star player. Based on precedent, the allegations enough will force the NFL to bench that player. The day after the Super Bowl, the allegations will be dropped.

    It’s a terrible precedent to bench people for unsubstantiated allegations made by private individuals. If Law Enforcement deems an accusation credible enough to file charges, that’s a whole different matter.

  22. It will be a pretty easy decision for me. This is a man who threatened to retire because of a helmet, begged for his release from his previous team. Cause all kind of mischief and missed the entire preseason Obviously football is not that important to him. I’ll tell him to go and sit this one out while we sort out the facts and protect the image of the shield. Then tell him to “look on the bright side. You won’t have to wear our helmets anytime soon.”

  23. I just don’t see how Tyreek Hill avoided the Commissioner-Exempt list this year in being accused by his girlfriend of breaking their sons arm and punching their son in the stomach. And in being recorded threatening his girlfriend. While they would hypothetically put Antonio Brown on the Exempt list for being accused of sexual assault and rape. Just as there were questions in the Hill case there appear to be similar type questions in the Brown case.

    Not defending Brown here. But there is in question a 1.6 million dollar business loan that Brown apparently did not follow thru on with his accuser. Including a possible evidence of lying if it’s true that her and her mother owned a $300,000 dollar piece of property that was included in the 1.6 million dollar loan agreement. Then there is her apparently showing up alone at Brown’s house at 2am in the morning a week after the reported rape happened.

    So while the Hill case was not sure thing conviction. It also looks like the Brown case is not a sure thing conviction at this time based on what information is out there. Based on how the league handled the Hill case. One would have to believe the league needs to gather more information against Brown before putting him on the Exempt list.

  24. As long as the Patriots players and coaches have to constantly answer Antonio Brown questions. Good enough.

  25. eljefedelmundo says:

    “Pats’ persecution complex”

    No doubt.

    We got the usual Patriot internet defense force in here trying to make justifications for a guy they would have crucified a week ago being from Oakland or Pitt.

    Objective fans of the NFL are laughing Hilariously…

    If all this happened before he signed with the Pats, why are they trying to justify the guy playing at all?

  26. Me as a Pats fan here:
    – Before we got him: Don’t want him, dont need him.
    – Initial reaction to getting him: Hmmmm, really? Ok well I guess so.
    – 10 minutes later: Wow! This could really be epic! Goin for 7 baby!
    – Next day: What! Oh ya, this is why I didn’t want him in the first place.
    – Next day: Please stop, just go away. Please.

  27. kalous2020 says:
    September 12, 2019 at 8:42 am
    It will be a pretty easy decision for me. This is a man who threatened to retire because of a helmet, begged for his release from his previous team. Cause all kind of mischief and missed the entire preseason Obviously football is not that important to him. I’ll tell him to go and sit this one out while we sort out the facts and protect the image of the shield. Then tell him to “look on the bright side. You won’t have to wear our helmets anytime soon.”

    That makes far too much sense. I like it.

  28. Pats set to dust Miami. Looking for some revenge from last year. It’s funny, they’ve carried the play down there, but they always seem to run out of gas in the 4th qtr, blowing games.

    Time for that to change.

  29. Isn’t the NFL supposed to be taking a strong stance against domestic violence? They’ve been wishy-washy with Tyreek Hill, so I wouldn’t be surprised if Brown skates. Robert Kraft isn’t exactly a Boy Scout, either.

  30. If they have a package of plays they feel he understands and can contribute he will play plain and simple.

  31. Football God says:
    September 12, 2019 at 7:19 am

    There are two options the Patriots can do. Either A let him sit out the first couple of Games till this issues gets resolved or B simply cut him and move on.I understand the Patriots have a strong organization that can handle this mess but the situation is getting out of control.

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    From the team standpoint, the situation isn’t out of control at all. As BB said in his Wednesday press conference, they take game day preparation one day at a time, and that’s what they’re doing here. Whatever the League does, they’ll cope with it just fine. In other words, within the Patriots team, it’s all under control.

    As usual, it’s when you get to the League office level that things seem to be spinning out of control. Because they don’t seem any too bright, and they have situational ethics, they never have any logic, rational process, or consistency in discipline cases. Once the Raiders failed to suspend AB after the Mayock incident, the League should have done it. But apparently they had some PR, or ratings, or team-specific reason for not wanting to. And now we are where we are.

    I suspect the hangup right now is that the League knows the ratings for the Patriots-Dolphins game will be much bigger if AB plays, or at least is eligible to play. That’s the way the League office rolls. I doubt it has anything to do with morals, standards, or the terms of the policy.

  32. I’m still so confused why Eli Manning was never suspended for his civil suit when he was defrauding NFL fans.

    I guess conduct detrimental to the shield only applies to the guys Roger “Likes”

  33. I doubt they make a decision before speaking to the accuser. She says she won’t be available until next week because she’s getting married.

    Question. Is it odd that a woman would bring sexual assault and rape allegations (that occurred in 2017 and 2018) one week before her wedding?

  34. It does not matter what everybody is saying. BB already sick of talking about this person. Did he do it, did he not do it. He should be innocent until proven guilty. But it does not matter. Cancer is cancer. And it spread to the Patriots.And that is the fact.

  35. I don’t know why BB took a chance on this diva in the first place. But he’s a major distraction and needs to go. The Pats are loaded with talent and don’t need him anyway.

  36. mrpkg says:
    September 12, 2019 at 8:45 am
    If the texts are true, there is no way the league can let him play

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    The texts have to be authenticated and the context of other messages and communications between the parties before and after those texts need to be reviewed before any judgement could be made. That will go into next week. If AB is going to sit this week it will be up to the Patriots most likely.

  37. On a related note … A couple of lawyer friends got me to thinking about the lawsuit, specifically, the time needed to prepare it. Antonio Brown signed with the Patriots at 5 p.m. Saturday. The suit was filed Tuesday. If you remove what was left of Saturday, that leaves two days for Britney Taylor to seek out and employ an attorney — hard to do on a Sunday — for that attorney to set up an appointment, interview her, check other possible sources of information, and for the lawsuit to be prepared, a 15-page document with attachments. Plus the suit had to be filed. My lawyer pals this is all but impossible in that short time frame. Conclusion: The lawsuit was already prepared before Brown signed. What’s more, lots of lots of people around professional football knew it was prepared and ready to go. The last assault allegedly occurred in May, 2018. Why wasn’t the lawsuit filed in the interim, while Brown was with the Steelers or Raiders? Because the lawsuit is tissue-thin and unlikely to be won. Lawyers, working on contingency, don’t like to waste their time. But when Brown signed with New England, somebody “persuaded” Taylor’s attorney to file. In the immediate aftermath of the filing, the league office announced it is “seriously considering” putting Brown on the exempt list, thereby punishing the Patriots on the flimsiest of cases. Why? Because powerful owners want to hamstring the Patriots, the destroyers of parity, as much as possible. This whole thing reeks of collusion.

  38. Innocent UNLESS proven guilty.

    Shouldn’t that be the standard that YOU would want when facing an allegation without proof that could take away your career and reputation?

  39. rogergoodellmyhero says:
    September 12, 2019 at 8:04 am
    Why do Patriots homers always play the victim card? Can’t they ever be happy?
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    Why do you always play the victim card to the Pats success? You are the one who always come on here crying. Can’t you be happy with your team’s success? Please let us know what team you root for. I am sure that will give us Pats fans to the insight of your Pats obsession.

  40. The accounts and videos that are on them, that she thinks she permanently deleted, are starting to surface and show a whole different version of a brother/sister relationship. It even has a picture of ABs “colored mustache” that he wore earlier this year on it. Way to “severe all ties” after the incident.

  41. If AB is put on the exempt list while this is resolved then what if he decides to settle?

    What if the results of the legal proceedings do not make it clear whether he did or did not do it but he is found partially liable?

    Both common outcomes of civil cases, and I don’t know what the NFL would do.

  42. The Patriots didn’t sign up for this. Drama? Yes. Rape Allegations/Lawsuit? No. Not with Chung/Kraft already drawing legal attention. Certainly they wouldn’t be paying a 9-15 million price and being okay with the added headache.

  43. The texts have to be authenticated and the context of other messages and communications between the parties before and after those texts need to be reviewed before any judgement could be made. That will go into next week. If AB is going to sit this week it will be up to the Patriots most likely.
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    While I agree with you that is the way texts SHOULD be analyzed, this is the NFL we are talking about. The same NFL that took one out-of-context text message from May and tried to claim it applied to a game played 8 months later.

  44. willypicket says:
    September 12, 2019 at 7:12 am
    The idea that the commissioner can just randomly suspend players without any evidence of wrong doing is (to put it simply) unamerican.
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    What?
    Unamerican?

    This is freedom and it is civics lesson 101.
    American’s and company’s are free to do as they choose without government interference.

    People get fired every day for non criminal behavior.
    AB is not even getting fired. Yet. He is potentially being suspended with pay.

    Now, you may disagree with how Goodell handles things. However, it’s not unamerican.

  45. davepol says:
    September 12, 2019 at 8:51 am
    Isn’t the NFL supposed to be taking a strong stance against domestic violence? They’ve been wishy-washy with Tyreek Hill, so I wouldn’t be surprised if Brown skates. Robert Kraft isn’t exactly a Boy Scout, either.

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    The NFL also can’t take immediate action on a civil claim either, as anyone could launch a civil claim for any reason at any time. That wouldn’t be fair to the players. Hence the investigation that will probably end up with Brown on the exempt list.

    If he was criminally charged he would already be put on the list.

  46. testmicroblog22 says:
    September 12, 2019 at 9:19 am
    The Patriots didn’t sign up for this. Drama? Yes. Rape Allegations/Lawsuit? No. Not with Chung/Kraft already drawing legal attention. Certainly they wouldn’t be paying a 9-15 million price and being okay with the added headache.

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    Rosenhaus forgot to disclose the “possibility” it could happen. So, yes, the Pats did not know about it.

  47. The accusations are severe enough that I believe he should be off the field until at the very least the NFL speaks with both of them.

    Gordon. Brown. You always had the sense that the other shoe was about to drop.

    The Brown pick up by the Patriots was always about the Chiefs I’m guessing. The last thing NE needed to see was Brown in KC.

    I’d advise NE to sit him on Sunday and see what unfolds next week.

  48. rogergoodellmyhero says:
    September 12, 2019 at 8:04 am
    Why do Patriots homers always play the victim card? Can’t they ever be happy?
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    That’s PRICELESS coming from an individual that CONSTANTLY trolls anything & everything Patriots related….tell ya what, when you stop playing it, we will too. That sound fair to you??!!
    My guess is nothing will change cause YOU couldn’t handle passing up a chance to complain about them in some way, shape or form….. prove me wrong!!!!

  49. mikespillane337 says:
    September 12, 2019 at 9:15 am
    The accounts and videos that are on them, that she thinks she permanently deleted, are starting to surface and show a whole different version of a brother/sister relationship. It even has a picture of ABs “colored mustache” that he wore earlier this year on it. Way to “severe all ties” after the incident.

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    Even with evidence surfacing that may negatively affect Taylor’s claim it would be hard for the NFL to establish that the accusations against brown are completely false. If they let him play and then a year from now in the legal proceedings he is found liable, then what?

  50. spencerhsite says:
    September 12, 2019 at 7:01 am
    I don’t want to see this scumbag anywhere near professional football after the text messages I read. This guy is out of control. He tarnishes the game in the worst possible way.

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    What’s your position on Tyreek Hill?

  51. mrbigass says:
    September 12, 2019 at 9:10 am
    Riddle me this. His agent said they knew the lawsuit was coming. Did they make the Pats aware of that?

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    That’s what many in the media have been prying at with Belichick.

    There were some DMs from AB leaked before he was released by the Raiders and before he signed with the Patriots about this. I would have to assume that the Patriots saw them and I would assume that Rosenhaus and Brown said something to the team about it. The immediacy and severity of the lawsuit could still have been a surprise to both the Patriots and Brown/Rosenhaus given it arrived within a day.

  52. It will be interesting how the NFL handles this one. Considering it is not a “criminal” case. As they mentioned below,

    “[W]hen an investigation leads the Commissioner to believe that a player may have violated this Policy by committing [sexual assault or rape], he may act where the circumstances and evidence warrant doing so. This decision will not reflect a finding of guilt or innocence and will not be guided by the same legal standards and considerations that would apply in a criminal trial.”

  53. dignityrules says:
    September 12, 2019 at 9:36 am
    The accusations are severe enough that I believe he should be off the field until at the very least the NFL speaks with both of them.

    Gordon. Brown. You always had the sense that the other shoe was about to drop.

    The Brown pick up by the Patriots was always about the Chiefs I’m guessing. The last thing NE needed to see was Brown in KC.

    I’d advise NE to sit him on Sunday and see what unfolds next week.

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    My reaction to the quick signing as well. Sort of an old school cold war move where you block the other from getting access.

  54. #1) Pats do not need Brown. #2) Wished they would not of signed him #3) Sick and tired of these civil suits/allegations coming out YEARS after supposed events took place. #4) The Pats should just call it a day and release Brown #5) Do not believe this womans story at all, appears just to be another gold digger.

  55. gpclaw says:
    September 12, 2019 at 9:05 am
    I doubt they make a decision before speaking to the accuser. She says she won’t be available until next week because she’s getting married.

    Question. Is it odd that a woman would bring sexual assault and rape allegations (that occurred in 2017 and 2018) one week before her wedding?

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    The wedding probably costs 75K. Fairly obvious extortion. There is also word that he refused to invest in her gym for 1.6 million so this sort of smells like a typical entitled Millennial thingy with some kind of GoFundMe now for a marriage.

    Regardless, it’s hard to ignore the timing. She had all summer to hit Brown with this after his huge deal with Oakland.

    Starting to wonder….Goodell moves in mysterious ways…

  56. I think the Pats are looking for a solution at WR. We can’t say they don’t need him. It’s only week 1. Pats went out to draft a WR. I don’t think they believe Edelman can last all season and Gordon is 1 set back away from his rehabilitation.

  57. As a long time fan, if the NFL allows AB to step onto the field, my issue will then be about the integrity of the NFL, and not Antonio Brown. I just wish for humanity’s sake that AB would retire and live a quiet life. But as we all know, that would be impossible.

  58. “Sort of an old school cold war move where you block the other from getting access.”
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    No way Andy Reid would have introduced this cancer into his locker room. I was pretty surprised that BB did it.

  59. That email that was “leaked” sounded more like an angry response to trying to get money (come up is slang for a money scheme) than anything else. She claims they met in college, had no contact for years, and she started training him. Then the assaults occurred and now it has come to this. One question that I would want the answer to is when did you ask for a 1.6 million dollar “investment” and why would he even mention your mother? I wonder if she is going to hand over her phone /computers or anything else that she deleted all her social media accounts from? Funny how they just got deleted not to long ago.. She wants her privacy I guess… After trying to sue an NFL player that’s been in the news for awhile.. Good luck with that. This smells like smoke that she thinks she can start by lightning up some money.

  60. Why I Love Football says:
    September 12, 2019 at 10:19 am
    As a long time fan, if the NFL allows AB to step onto the field, my issue will then be about the integrity of the NFL, and not Antonio Brown. I just wish for humanity’s sake that AB would retire and live a quiet life. But as we all know, that would be impossible.

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    Too late.Kareem Hunt is playing and Hill is active for the Chiefs.

  61. The Pats fanbase is notorious for their whining. However, that being said, as a non-Patriots fan:

    1) you don’t need Antonio Brown or his baggage
    2) NE looked over the top strong with the receivers they had on Sunday night
    3) bad move on Belichik’s part to trade Demaryius Thomas
    4) as much as I don’t want to see them win #7 before my Steelers’ team, i see them as the front runners for the Super Bowl.

  62. The commissioner won’t do anything. If they let Gordon play after his latest indefinite suspension was only two games then he won’t do anything to AB. I’m not sure what dirt Kraft has on Goodell but it must be pretty good.

  63. In any legal case you have to go by evidence, not he said she said. In her claim she said that everything she claims was true. If evidence exists to refute that, rumors are that alot more is out there including audio of her saying it was about money, then how can he be held liable? If I can find evidence that makes her claims questionable on my phone, I wonder what a millionaires lawyers can find. It will all come out. None of us were there, and to jump on a headline without the facts is what her lawyers want. Convict him through the media.

  64. Play him…. he’s currently part of the team & that’s why they sugned hm….if he’s ready to contribute PLAY HIM

  65. There doesn’t seem to be anything going on that might prevent him from paying.
    Certainly not from the NFL or the Patriots.
    Belichick doesn’t care about appearances.
    This team has no class, no honor, no dignity, no remorse.

  66. Does it matter? Does the guy deserve due process or are you automatically guilty once accused? I read his text messages and they are pure trash. As a Pats fan I’d just as soon not have him play

  67. The NFL can’t really suspend him this week before they meet the accuser. At this point there is literally no evidence against Brown. After they meet with her, they can claim to believe her and then suspend him. He’d have a pretty good case for a grievance if the league is denying him playing time to earn the incentives in his contract.

  68. The Pats fanbase is notorious for their whining.
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    Coming from a Steelers fan this is priceless. We still hear your complaining about the Jesse James play from two years ago and a headset issue from three years ago that is the responsibility of the NFL.

  69. davepol says:
    September 12, 2019 at 8:51 am
    Isn’t the NFL supposed to be taking a strong stance against domestic violence? They’ve been wishy-washy with Tyreek Hill, so I wouldn’t be surprised if Brown skates. Robert Kraft isn’t exactly a Boy Scout, either.

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    It is the hypocrisy of the NFL, the only thing that matters are what teams/owners are protected by Roger. Tyreek crapped on the Shield and Roger, Clark and Andy have demonstrated that they 100% supports how Tyreek treats women which is a really good example for kids (he is close to the only one to actually have been convicted of domestic abuse and should have had the shortest leash). AB behavior means nothing, all that matters is if Kraft and the Patriots are still a protected team, yes-minimal or no suspension, no he is gone at least 6 games maybe the year. Zeke got 6 with no actual evidence and the NFL investigator saying the accuser was not credible, at that time Jerry was causing issues with Roger’s pay and even being the commissioner.

  70. jjfootball says:
    September 12, 2019 at 10:39 am
    Patriots equal shady organization!
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    Please explain how so? His transgressions were committed before he was a Patriot. Also please identify the team you root for and the squeaky clean members of it’s roster.

  71. lp0320 says:
    September 12, 2019 at 10:29 am
    The Pats fanbase is notorious for their whining. However, that being said, as a non-Patriots fan:

    1) you don’t need Antonio Brown or his baggage
    2) NE looked over the top strong with the receivers they had on Sunday night
    3) bad move on Belichik’s part to trade Demaryius Thomas
    4) as much as I don’t want to see them win #7 before my Steelers’ team, i see them as the front runners for the Super Bowl.

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    First of all, NKeal Harry, their 1st rd pick, was drawing rave reviews in camp and will need to be activated.

    Demarius Thomas, while proving he can still do his thing, is older and not really an everyday WR on the PAts.

    Gunnar is the new Amendola and a pure slot WR who will likely get looks as the season goes as well.

    In short, value-wise, Thomas was still on the outside looking in and NE may have felt he waasn’t going to hold up health wise as well. Getting a 6th rd pick for a guy you were about to cut, is very good value.

    Simply by signing Thomas and having him as a camp body, NE just gained a 6th rd pick.

  72. savethebs says:
    September 12, 2019 at 9:43 am
    backroom deal between the Commissioner and the Patriots
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    Would not at all be unprecedented. Like destroying tapes.

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    Don’t think so. If what Brown is being accused of is true, the NFL and the Patriots would want him gone.

  73. I like the perspectives here. Mine is that threatening Mayock should have been enough. If I recall that isn’t a question under the policy …and shouldn’t be. But I also think that text shouls warrant the list. Problem is it has been applied so randomly…not loving it.

  74. I honestly dont think any “backroom” arrangement is needed for the Patriots to simply de ide not to use him this week. He has not had much camp so why not let him work his body up to game shape a little more before putting him in there (no need to pull a hammy trying to rush it). And he doesn’t know the playbook yet either (and hopefully he can learn it, jury still out on that), and really the Pats dont need him for this or even the next few games since after week one (which was supposed to be hard) they get an easy stretch before it all tightens up later. They can certainly have him quietly coming up to speed behind the walls at practice for a good stretch before putting him in games. And the better prepared he us the less likely he is to get hurt out there and of course if he has his timing down with Brady by then that will have a lot of impact. Keep in mind that Gordon, for all his talent, still needed ramp up time.

  75. “all that matters is if Kraft and the Patriots are still a protected team”

    Of course they are. They are the commish’s boys. He’ll do whatever he can to help them along.

  76. savethebs says:
    September 12, 2019 at 9:43 am
    backroom deal between the Commissioner and the Patriots
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    Would not at all be unprecedented. Like destroying tapes.

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    Wow, that’s real creativity. Lift just part of one sentence out of the article. Put some other context around it that has nothing to do with what the article spoke to. And voila! You have created a a whole new statement out of thin air. Nice job man.

  77. Who knows whether he’ll play? If the question is “are the Patriots willing to cheat in order for him to play?” then the answer is YES YES 1000 Times YES!

  78. Players are innocent until proven guilty but the CBA has a clear “conduct” clause in it that says, we can suspend you with pay, for serious accusations while we investigate. Its about the integrity of the league at stake.
    I can understand where people may think its unfair but the truth is, these guys get themselves in this mess by behaving badly so they only have themselves to blame for a lot of this. Had he delt with this issue two years ago and nipped it in the bud it wouldn’t be biting him in the behind now.

  79. FoozieGrooler says:
    September 12, 2019 at 10:41 am
    There doesn’t seem to be anything going on that might prevent him from paying.
    Certainly not from the NFL or the Patriots.
    Belichick doesn’t care about appearances.
    This team has no class, no honor, no dignity, no remorse.

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    Thats not completely true. They never returned your dignity after they took it so they do have at least that much.

  80. The NFL can’t really suspend him this week before they meet the accuser. At this point there is literally no evidence against Brown. 
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    Wrong. There is a sworn complaint filed against him in Federal court along with some self-admitting incriminating texts. AB threatend to punch out a GM in front of witnesses. He illegally taped a HC phone call without getting prior permission…………should I go on?

  81. blogatron2000 says:
    September 12, 2019 at 10:20 am
    “Sort of an old school cold war move where you block the other from getting access.”
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    No way Andy Reid would have introduced this cancer into his locker room. I was pretty surprised that BB did it.

    Andy Reid already has a cancer in his locker room. His name is Tyreek Hill.

  82. It would appear the will put him on the list. AB did no favors actually emailing the accuser. He admits that at least one of the claims happened, and the only question is if it were consentual. His description and the fact that he and the person redacted are going to augh about it, suggests that he did j.o. on her back without her knowledge/consent. Throw in the fact that the league is likely not happy with him forcing his way out of Oakland like he did, essentially creating a new player workaround of the contract rules, and they have an incentive to try and punish him here.

  83. rogergoodellmyhero says:
    September 12, 2019 at 12:41 pm
    Don’t worry Pats homers, Kraft will slip some more money to the NFL and AB will play.
    _________________

    Why do you always cry about the Pats? It’s great to see you have Pats on the brain 24/7.

  84. The timing of a suit is never coincidental. I have been involved in several and we talk about timing for effect.

    Secondly, if Goodell rushes to take AB off the field, he can forever forsake any goodwill between Kraft and himself. The bogus deflategate nonsense still rings in the fans’ ears: how do you thing it rings in RK’s?

    Civil suits have never been the basis for exempt lifting. If she had a criminal issue, her timing is really bad.

    If you mess with the bull you get the horns. If you want to give NE a reason to crush people mercilessly, this would be one way. If Brown is told he cannot play Sunday against the fish, then look out. It will be over in the beginning of the second quarter.

  85. honestly the pats dont need brown. if anything he would end up hurting them in the long run.

    so plz keep him

  86. zonedout100 says:
    September 12, 2019 at 12:31 pm
    blogatron2000 says:
    September 12, 2019 at 10:20 am
    “Sort of an old school cold war move where you block the other from getting access.”
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    No way Andy Reid would have introduced this cancer into his locker room. I was pretty surprised that BB did it.

    Andy Reid already has a cancer in his locker room. His name is Tyreek Hill.

    4 1 Rate This

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    You forgot about Frank Clark. I am sure there are others, too. He also has some leadership issues with people like Kelce who think they are better than they are.

    Watch how with Hill being out and no need to double him, how it negatively affect their offense and how it is run.

  87. It looks like the league really doesn’t have a leg to stand on. I’ll be surprised if Brown doesn’t play.

  88. “Patriots fans sure are defensive”

    The biggest chest-beaters in sports and also the most thin-skinned.

  89. davidsoria175yahoocom says:
    September 12, 2019 at 12:36 pm
    What if Brown throws his phone away like shady brady?
    ____________________

    Still chasing that nugget spoon fed to you, huh. Sad.

  90. willypicket says:
    September 12, 2019 at 7:12 am
    I sure hope they fix this nonsense in the new CBA. The idea that the commissioner can just randomly suspend players without any evidence of wrong doing is (to put it simply) unamerican. It seems when the evidence supports a players evidence it is ignored far too many times.

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    Ok so first of all, there certainly is some evidence of wrongdoing here. The text messages that have been released as part of the lawsuit appear to confirm at least some of the details of the accusations and definitely don’t paint a good picture of Brown. is it possible these are fake? Sure, I suppose it is… but Brown doesn’t seem to be making such an argument, which tells me they’re probably legit.

    Second, you really need a lesson in American civics. The NFL is a private business and it has ever right to protect itself from employees that can damage its image. Just like your boss can fire you if you end up in photos/videos on TV/the internet doing a Nazi salute or chanting anti-Semitic slogans. That’s textbook Capitalism right there. The government telling a business what it can or can’t do with it’s employees, such as saying you can’t fire/suspend an employee for bad behavior without conclusive evidence would be much closer to Socialism than American Capitalism.

  91. ” And if all else fails, don’t rule out a backroom deal between the Commissioner and the Patriots ”

    I think there has been MANY of these deals in the past.

  92. Did you read what he did to her? He said that she made him feel like a rapist. He texted her he assaulted her while she was asleep. You can’t give consent asleep. He raped her shoving her face into the bed and holding her head like that.

    Is that a good representation of the NFL? NO

    He needs to be put on the exempt list for that alone.

    The Patriots already sold their souls. I could smell the embers burning during billicheats statement.

  93. The Patriots have a 2 time cheater at QB, a 5 time loser at WR, PEDelman at Slot, Chung at Safety, Kraft is the owner, they have been caught cheating twice by NFL, they previously employed Stallworth, Moss, Hernandez, Dennard, Browner, Talib, Harrison, Spikes, Jones Harmon,& Faulk. The medias love affair with this team overshadows what true NFL fans know – look at the list, look at the history. They will let Brown play. They would sign OJ Simpson and Ray Lewis today if they could play. They exemplify what is wrong with our country. No one is accountable for anything.

  94. williamshatnerstoupee says:
    September 12, 2019 at 1:27 pm
    “Patriots fans sure are defensive”

    The biggest chest-beaters in sports and also the most thin-skinned.
    _______________________

    Think-skinned are people like you who have to complain about the Pats being good. Then when Pats fans respond to people such as yourself complaining we are deemed think-skinned? Does not make sense. After this past week it is clear there are two NFL nations – Pats Nation and Crybaby Nation.

  95. stevenreichert says:
    September 12, 2019 at 9:09 am

    I don’t know why BB took a chance on this diva in the first place. But he’s a major distraction and needs to go. The Pats are loaded with talent and don’t need him anyway.
    ————————————————————————————-
    Brian Cox
    Corey Dillon
    Albert Haynesworth
    Randy Moss
    Aqib Talib
    Josh Gordon

    BB is a football coach. He has never hesitated to bring in anyone, troubled or not, crappy reputation or not, if he thought they could help the team win, and the deal to acquire them was financially justifiable.

    Personally I think BB likes having these kind of guys that create tension in the locker room to keep everyone on their toes.
    Darrell Revis

  96. As a die hard football fan, I can’t for the life of me figure out why sportscasters, print and tv, place the the Patriots as successful and great organazation when we all know about spygate, deflate and who knows how many gates we don’t know about, and of course their owner pays for his sex. They take in players liks J.Gordan, and A.Brown, and I for one do not believe that the Pats are all about given 2nd, 3rd, or 4th chances, no I believe they are a win at all cost team who would satan himself if they believed it would help them win. I am not the least bit impressed with this team, they sell their souls too cheaply, simply for the sake of winning.

  97. Kolo Jezdec says:
    September 12, 2019 at 8:14 am
    The NFL, and many other organizations, suspend with pay to avoid lawsuits. It is hard to assert you suffered damages when you continue to receive hundreds of thousands of dollars for doing nothing.
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    Then you have these things called incentives for like td’s and yards.. things he cant get not playing.

  98. steelerfanjo says:
    September 12, 2019 at 2:11 pm
    The Patriots have a 2 time cheater at QB, a 5 time loser at WR, PEDelman at Slot, Chung at Safety, Kraft is the owner, they have been caught cheating twice by NFL, they previously employed Stallworth, Moss, Hernandez, Dennard, Browner, Talib, Harrison, Spikes, Jones Harmon,& Faulk. The medias love affair with this team overshadows what true NFL fans know – look at the list, look at the history. They will let Brown play. They would sign OJ Simpson and Ray Lewis today if they could play. They exemplify what is wrong with our country. No one is accountable for anything.
    _________________

    Kind of puts it into perspective why the Steelers have not won a SB since Dr. Rydze. But I am sure he was giving Steeler players Flinstone vitamins.

    “Richard Rydze, the former Pittsburgh Steelers doctor found guilty of conspiring to illegally distribute anabolic steroids, human growth hormone and narcotic painkillers, was sentenced Tuesday to a decade in federal prison.”

  99. As a Pats fan, I’d ask the team why put Brown on tv this weekend with your uniform on if there’s any possibility that this could be true? Morality aside, it would just turn into a media circus with your players and coaches being hounded with Brown questions. Not worth it. Sit him until the investigation finishes and cut him quickly if the allegations solidify.

  100. Maybe signing AB is a good thing. Look at Crybaby Nation coming out in full force. I wish I hated a successful team like you guys do to complain about them every chance I get. It’s a good thing the internet was in its infancy when the Yankees were the Gods of baseball back in the 90s. I might have looked like you. However, I grew up and realized just how great the Yankees were. Also having the teams I root for winning a lot helps.

  101. When you look at Brown’s outrageous emails and the overall credibility of Britney Taylor’s accusations, it’s pretty clear his career in the NFL is done. Pats should release him now and move on. They don’t need him anyway.

  102. If threatening the GM with physical violence and uttering a racial slur doesn’t get you suspended, I am guessing nothing will..

  103. Devil’s advocate here for a minute. What do you think would have been the result if Mike Mayock uttered a racially insensitive comment to Brown? I think we know how it would have gone and if further evidence on how things are just so broken….

  104. Going to the police (she didn’t) means you want the wrongdoer punished.

    Filing only a civil case means all you want is money.

    Get the difference?

  105. What would our President say? perhaps fake news, or should Brown take a knee. He did jump on the Kap knee deal. Bill

  106. Her credibility? Like when she said that she interactions with him were professional and brother/sister type. The videos(more than one) indicate… That was a lie. The one with them both laying in the bed, under the covers at night, showing off rings really is confusing, to say the least

  107. If threatening the GM with physical violence and uttering a racial slur doesn’t get you suspended, I am guessing nothing will..
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    Just like telling your baby mother “you should be afraid of me”, doesn’t get you suspended.

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