Giants name Daniel Jones their starting quarterback

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The Daniel Jones era will begin on Sunday.

Giants head coach Pat Shurmur opened the door to making a change at quarterback on Monday when he declined to say Eli Manning would start against the Buccaneers. It would have been surprising to make such a public show of doubt in Manning’s ability to do the job before going back to him again this week and the Giants won’t do that.

The team announced on Tuesday morning that Jones will make his first NFL start this weekend. The first-round pick looked good during his preseason work and the quick move to put him in the starting lineup makes one wonder if he would have been the starter in Week One if not for the Giants’ sentimental attachment to Manning.

“Ultimately, this is a move that I felt was best for this team at this time,” Shurmur said in a statement. “I have said it since I got here, I am very fond of Eli. His work ethic, his preparation, his football intelligence. All those attributes are as good as I have ever seen in a player. And Eli worked as hard as you could ask of anybody to get ready for this season. This move is more about Daniel moving forward than about Eli.”

The veteran was not helped by a skeletal receiving corps or an underwhelming defense in the first two weeks of this season, but his results weren’t markedly better when the team had more robust supporting casts in recent seasons. Jones’s arrival in April meant Manning’s time in the starting lineup was limited, although suggestions from the team were that it would be a while longer before pulling the plug.

Given the quarterback injuries around the league, the Giants could conceivably look to trade Manning if he has interest in continuing his career elsewhere and other teams believe he’d be better than options already on hand. The Giants have decided they have one and Jones will start trying to prove them right this weekend.

152 responses to “Giants name Daniel Jones their starting quarterback

  1. We all knew this was coming. Just didn’t think it would be this soon. Eli has had a great career but father time never loses.

  2. But can he play D? As much as it’s fun to pick on Eli, it’s clearly not his fault. What is clear tho is Shurmur is not HC quality.

  3. Throw him to the fire! Great job Pat. No Wr’s to throw to and poor offensive line. Giants are making mistake…let Eli continue to get the pounding until the WR’s get healty and then start the rookie towards the end of the season.

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  5. What do they have to lose at this point? If the kid doesn’t do well, put Eli back in. The writing was on the wall when they drafted Jones.

  6. Gettleman screwed up in the spring. The Giants should have done one of two things:
    – keep Eli and draft a pass rusher at number 6
    – release Eli, draft a QB at number 6, and use the cap space for a pass rusher
    Instead, Gettleman keeps Eli and drafts a QB, and the defense can’t stop a stadium hot dog wrapper blowing in the breeze.

    Eli will handle this with the class he showed when McAdoo benched him the one game. While Eli should have been able to exit on better terms, I would imagine phones are working right now to see if anyone is willing to trade for Eli. The Giants are otherwise going nowhere this season, and it’s highly unlikely the team will start Eli for the final home game in December as a “farewell” because the fans will see through that phoniness.

  7. This has been a mess up on the giants in so many ways.

    -2017 you bench him for Geno Smith. That was a gutless move by a gutless head coach looking to put the blame on the QB. There was a lot of backlash on this and the Giants management failed to realize it wasn’t because they benched Manning, it’s because they benched him for Geno Smith.

    -Giants say they are going to win now while rebuilding. At 6 they reach for Jones and don’t get a player who could help Manning win now.

    -After drafting Jones that high they bring back manning for over 20 mil because they were afraid of the backlash. So they justify it by playing him 2 games and having him mentor Jones?

    The guys running the team have no clue what they are doing. They set up Manning to fail but did it in a way where they covered their rear ends. For the GM and the head coach, all eyes are on you now with Eli on the bench…..

  8. Sure the Giants are horrible this season – and have been for years now, unfortunately – but I don’t see any scenario playing out well for them. Eli’s best years are behind him, but throwing in a rookie this early into his career could be detrimental to his confidence if he plays poorly, and let’s face it, this team is beyond bad this year, so how can Jones even be expected to do well? While Jones looked good in preseason (yes, preseason), he’s shown that he’s prone to fumbling. Hopefully he learns to hold onto the ball and continues to improve.

    Eli, thanks a bunch for the memories, the two amazing Super Bowls, and always being a class act. Most teams could only dream that their franchise QB’s could carry themselves the way you have for 15 years. Go enjoy retirement knowing that you beat Brady twice.

  9. After watching the Bills play the Giants last week it seems like the O line is as big a problem as Manning. The Bills had no problem pressuring Manning with just 4-5 rushers. although the Giants starting receivers were not playing it seemed as if the replacements did a pretty good job.

  10. This could get real ugly come this weekend. The Giants will be a skeleton crew around Daniel Jones w/ a struggling offensive line that isn’t all that good and not much at all at the skill position outside of Saquon Barkley especially at RB. And the Giants play an extremely aggressive Todd Bowles coached Tampa defense that will confuse him pre-snap and bring a ton of pressure post snap forcing him into bad throws. Come this Sunday I dont see this going well for Daniel Jones & the Giants.

  11. @scoops1 says:
    September 17, 2019 at 10:24 am
    $23.5 Million is now on the the bench for the rest of the Season

    Thanks ELI
    ======================================
    No you should thank the Giants! Was Eli supposed to reject the contract?

  12. Sooner than I assumed, but the writing was on the wall. Granted, Eli had zero help this year, but he hasn’t done what a QB’s job is, and that is to elevate the play of those around him.

    Might as well take the lumps this year. It was looking like a lost season anyway. Bummer, as I am a big Giants AND Eli Manning fan. And if Giants fans can get 2 SB wins from Daniel

  13. The Giants are terrible, so I don’t expect much of an improvement.
    The downside is if Jones isn’t ready then what do they do?
    Stay with him? Go back to Eli?

    Good luck to him.

    PS – Elis base is 17MM. The rest is due to the pro-rated bonus paid 5 years ago.
    They could have cut him in the off season and saved all of that.

  14. Let’s see what Jones can do everyone was giving him a hard time. It wasn’t his fault he was picked so high. I hope he does well for the G-men.

  15. Let’s see what Jones can do everyone was giving him a hard time. It wasn’t his fault he was picked so high. I hope he does well for the G-men.

  16. The ONLY QB that has milked an NFL franchise(s) out of more money for such mediocre play is Sam Bradford!

  17. Eagles with foles beat Atlanta eagles with Wentz lose This is why it made zero sense to get rid of foles Wentz gets the least out of the team they always end up falling short . Wentz 6-17 vs teams over 500 with zero playoff wins foles with same exact team Is 10-2 vs teams over 500 with tons of playoff wins Wentz is bad for chemistry

  18. scoops1 says:
    September 17, 2019 at 10:24 am
    $23.5 Million is now on the the bench for the rest of the Season

    Thanks ELI
    —————————————————

    And this is his fault how?

    If someone was offering you $23.5 million and you honestly believe you can do the job, are you turning it down? If you want to “thank” someone, thank the Giants. And they are honoring Eli’s contract, unlike many teams that people complain about who callously cut a player.

  19. As a Bucs fan, thank you Giants. Can’t wait to see in person the stomping that the Bucs are gonna give the Giants. #SiegeTheDay #RaiseTheFlags #ItsABucsLife #LetsGoBucs

  20. Great, just our luck. I was hoping they would’ve waited until after our game. Our track record vs 1st time starters, rookies, back ups is atrocious. Actually, it’s not too good vs most quarterbacks however it’s especially bad against the latter.

  21. Did the Giants need to find a new young QB? sure.
    But lay the blame for poor play where it belongs on the Coaching, drafting and management.
    We could have drafted a Defensive star with #6 this year and looked to trade up in next years draft for a top QB.
    Thanks Eli for bringing us two Super Bowls and for being a class act.

  22. The haters cheered on Father Time without realizing he was hunting Tom Brady through the process of elimination.

  23. Hope when Daniel Jones struggles and he will because he still a rookie they wont put Eli back as the starter

  24. Trade him now. Clear some cap space and get a draft pick in return. Trade him to Pittsburgh for anything – even a 6th round pick.

  25. Theyre just making him the scapegoat… Is Eli’s best days behind him?? Absolutely!!! But when you trade away the team’s best receiver, and the 2nd best receiver is not playing because of a concussion, then you’re bound to struggle… from the stats the offense still generated 400 yards… but the defense gave up 35 points and 28 points in games 1 and 2..

  26. Is this really that controversial?
    I get Eli won 2 Super Bowls. But everyone has an expiration date, and Eli passed his 2 years ago.

    Are Giants fans really upset about this??

  27. If I am the Giants I am calling the Colts, Steelers, Jags and Saints and see if you can get a 5th or 6th rounder for him.Only people who don’t know football blame the Giants mess on Eli. He completed 66% of his passes (carer high) threw for 4300 yards last year with 21 TD and only 11 picks on a team with no O-Line. Put him behind a team that has a line and some weapons and he can be serviceable.

  28. I think this is more about protecting Eli’s body (and reputation) than it is about trying to win. OTOH the Giants aren’t going anywhere this year so why not let Jones learn the ropes while expectations are low?

  29. scoops1 says:
    September 17, 2019 at 10:24 am
    $23.5 Million is now on the the bench for the rest of the Season

    Thanks ELI
    ———————–

    Eli only signed the contract. It was written up and provided by the front office. You can never be mad at the player over financial and contractual decisions committed to by the front office.

  30. Assuming the Giants were willing to trade him, can anyone take on his contract? No way Pittsburgh could. They are on the hook for $45 millon+ for Antonio Brown and Roethlisberger. The Jags just signed Foles to a huge contract. Bradford should return in a month or even less for the Jets. I don’t see a trade happening.

  31. and the giants paid Nate Solder BIG MONEY to leave us. Nate, while good, doesn’t have Dante Scarnecchia to coach him, nor keep their QB upright. The offensive line and lack of offense is going to KILL THIS KID

  32. Will those of you calling for Eli to Pitt please stop!! The Steelers have their qb of the future and his time is now. Eli isn’t going to Pittsburgh to watch and hold a clipboard.

  33. End of an era. Granted, I haven’t watched many Giants games since Coughlin was fired, but expecting to win a super bowl with McAdoo and Pat Shurmur? They haven’t drafted well, besides barkley, aren’t protecting the QB and have a soft defense. I feel that it’s not father time’s doing but the employees around Eli that have failed him.

  34. The irony is that the Giants will be in the mix for a top 3 pick next year where there are better qb propects(and possibly a generational talent in Tua). Should have take the DE Allen at 6 and maybe that would’ve helped getting the D off the field. Where did they think the D pressure was going to come from? Gettleman f’d this up. I hope I’m wrong but I don’t think we will see enough out of Jones to dispel the idea that taking a QB next draft is a bad idea.

  35. “rogerdodger99 says:
    September 17, 2019 at 10:26 am
    Thanks for the memories, Eli. We’ll always have those super bowls in our hearts but it’s over. Could have done worse than the last 15 years.”

    —————-
    From a Patriots fan, he had a hell of a ride and got the best of us twice. Wish more fans were like this. Awesome stuff!

  36. Shurmur needs to go.. Disgusted and Depressed by his antics etc etc ..

    1 and 15.. The win who else the Dolphins.. and we lose the first pick..

    ELI: I still bELIeve best of luck to you next season ..

    Reece screwed you over big time..

  37. They may be switching quarterback, but last time I looked the rest of the team was the same.

    Might as well have a look at the kid and see if there is a future there (I think there is) – but this was a four win team at best, and and it still is a four win team at best.

  38. “always being a class act. ”

    Yeah because selling fake merchandise to fans when you’re already a millionaire many times over is “classy”

  39. I don’t care how many superbowls Eli has he will always rank behind Big Ben and Philip Rivers as a QB from his draft class. He played above average to good/pro bowl level at times. Never once watching him did I feel he was one of the top QBs in the league. Ben and Rivers have had periods of not just pro bowl level of play but all pro level and their teams still want them. If Eli makes the HoF it will be a joke.

  40. dfwhawkguy says:
    September 17, 2019 at 10:34 am
    And just like that the Mannings were finally gone…

    —-

    Guess you haven’t been watching NFL network. Peyton is on the network hawking insurance or the NFL-100 stuff more often than all the current NFL starters combined. Eli won’t be far behind.

  41. chino1985 says:
    September 17, 2019 at 10:27 am

    it’s fun to pick on Eli, it’s clearly not his fault.
    ————————————————————————————-
    I can’t believe people are this blind. Eli has been lousy for years now. Watch the on-line suddenly look good playing in front of a QB who is decisive with the ball and has some mobility.

  42. pointtwopsiistheissue says:
    September 17, 2019 at 11:11 am
    Thanks Eli for bringing us two Super Bowls and for being a class act.
    —————
    So , it’s classy to sell fake game worn jerseys???
    ———————————————————-
    Even if I’ve watched Eli’s last game as a Giant, it warms my heart to know that SOME Patriots “fans” will never let 18-1 go. The hate you carry makes me smile, and will for years to come.

    I can’t believe that, for a supposed fan of most likely the greatest dynasty of all time in all of sports, you STILL feel entitled that you didn’t win everything every year.

    I don’t know what is going to be more enjoyable. The eventual demise of the Patriots (NOTHING lasts forever) or the witnessing of the “fans” jumping off the bandwagon like rats off a sinking ship? My guess is both will be just as sweet. It might not be this year, or next year, but it IS sooner rather than later.

  43. Trubisky is starting to look like a real QB. He never had the reps in college. But the Bears had a nseaky good team. The Giants D is HORRIFIC. When Landon Collins was out last year, they looked lost. So let’s no resign him. Ridiculous. I don’t care if he can’t cover that well, he was a force and motivated other. If you can’t see that, then you shouldn’t be a GM. Again, insane stupidity.

    Give away OBJ. Should have drafted Donald anyway. Easy to say? I’ve been a Panther fan my whole life. I was psssd. Was born but not raised there.

    The Oline is a joke. NEVER take a Patriot throw away. BB knows EXACTLY when a player is done or what he’s worth.

    Draft Daniel Jones 6th overall. You could have had him at 13 or whatever the pick was. Let’s go back to the Bears reaching for Trubisky. He was not ready. Neither is Jones. He needs reps, they DO know this, so they are giving them reps. Their Oline is not as bad as it used to be. THAT’S why you’re seeing all the Eli batted balls. THAT’S what Olineman do when they are beaten. The good ones, anyway.

    I’m the biggest Eli fan ever, but he cost them two games last year. The Oline cost them the rest. The D is killing them this year and the opposing D is batting balls, which is directly on Eli.

    I will say this: Two SB rings (coulda been 3 because the 08 team was the best I’ve ever seen until stupid shot himself). Class act and NEVER missed a game due to injury.

    He earned every penny and should be sent of a hero. A Hall of Good player. His toughness might get him in. They’ve NEVER have had a good Oline. Maybe extreme rising to the occasion in 2011 and a decent and maybe, just maybe a good line in 07-08 but what Oline ever made the pro bowl consistently? Chris Snee?

    Should have drafted Allen this year and waited on Jones. He wouldn’t have been picked.

    Gettleman is terrible, Shurmer is terrible and Barkley is going to have a Barry Sanders career. He’s gonna get big bucks after contract 2 and walk away at 29 or 30. Friggen pathetic. Stupid, out of touch owners.

  44. tinye67 says:
    September 17, 2019 at 10:57 am
    Is this really that controversial?
    I get Eli won 2 Super Bowls. But everyone has an expiration date, and Eli passed his 2 years ago.

    Are Giants fans really upset about this??
    ————————————————————
    I’m a Giants fan, and I’m not upset. But it feels strange when an era ends, and a staple of your team is basically shown the door. I think most Giants fans KNOW that it’s over now. It’s still an adjustment period though.

  45. Barring an injury, this move is permanent. You cannot go back to Eli now, even if Jones struggles mightily. The toothpaste is out of the tube….

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  47. Just hope all my fellow Giants fans know they’ve just run the white flag of surrender up the pole. No they weren’t going to win a lot this year with Eli…but Eli was about the 10th thing on the list of things really wrong on this team. Starting Jones doesn’t fix any of those problems.This year just became getting Jones experience and nothing else. And know this, unless he’s absolutely horrible the last thing the Giants should do is draft another QB next year. And this means next year is over for all intents and purposes at this point as well. They aren’t a team a year away from being the next Rams just because they’re starting a new QB, they’re a team three years away from being the next Rams. Assuming they fix a lot of their other problems and that’s not a given by any stretch.

  48. After the disastrous spate of QB injuries to start the season, there is no reason why the Giants should not be able to deal Eli to a potential contender in return for reasonable compensation. Uncle Roger would sure be happy about seeing Eli lead the Saints, Colts, or Steelers instead of the 2nd/3rd string QBs they currently have. Eli was not the problem in NY as much as it was the Giants’ terrible defense.

  49. Dumb move. This team is going nowhere so why switch now? This kid will have little help which puts more pressure on him.

  50. RobfromAmarillo says:
    September 17, 2019 at 11:15 am
    The irony is that the Giants will be in the mix for a top 3 pick next year where there are better qb propects(and possibly a generational talent in Tua). Should have take the DE Allen at 6 and maybe that would’ve helped getting the D off the field. Where did they think the D pressure was going to come from? Gettleman f’d this up. I hope I’m wrong but I don’t think we will see enough out of Jones to dispel the idea that taking a QB next draft is a bad idea
    =============================================

    Tua isn’t a generational talent. The QB that went #1 overall this year is a better more gifted QB than Tua is, Kyler Murray has a better arm that is an absolute cannon, Murray has a much quicker release, Murray is a better more accurate passer, anticipates and throws w/ more touch to all levels, Murray’s mechanics are better and he is a much better athlete and more mobile, faster more elusive runner than Tua is. Tua is a couple inch’s taller and that’s about it.
    Drew Bree’s cracked the door, Russell Wilson and Baker Mayfield nudge it open and Kyler Murray kicked the door down opening it up for shorter QB’s to come into the NFL and have success playing at a high level which means a better more competitive league for everyone with more QB’s available in the talent pool to come into the league. Going forward I think we are going to see a lot more short QB’s coming into the NFL, Even the old school hard core type like Elway who are very set in their ways who must have a QB over a short height threshold will start looking at the QB position with a different set of eyes in the future I believe. It’s a different game today than it was 30yrs ago, shotgun is used far more, spread concepts are used much much more and QB’s are protected more now than they’ve ever been which is also good for the game since so much revolves around the QB being healthy.

  51. Hang em up Eli. You had a hell of a run but it is time. Nothing lasts forever (ask Peyton). Bow out gracefully before you get cut or traded. Go spend some time with your wife and family. And thanks for the memories!

  52. lmao the head office is so incompetent… what a joke…well guess what boys, you’re all out of excuses now that he’s on the bench…that D still gonna leak like a sieve every week…while we’re at it let’s throw the rookie out to the wolves, you think Eli had a hard time without any WRs wait til you see the rookie in action….it’s clear to me that gettleman and shurmur both need to go

  53. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    September 17, 2019 at 11:58 am
    Dumb move. This team is going nowhere so why switch now? This kid will have little help which puts more pressure on him.
    ——————————————
    I think you answered your own question. They are going nowhere and want to see what they have in Jones in real game situations and not just practices or mop-up duty.

  54. Eli just had trouble with the Giants favorite play call. “HERE THEY COME RUN AWAY!!!” Maybe a younger faster rookie can make it work. “RUN FOR YOUR LIFE” Everyone is coming!!!

  55. So in all your brilliance your gonna throw the kid to the wolves with Todd Bowles and our Defense on tap this week!? There is gonna be blood in the water down in Tampa on Sunday! Go Bucs!!!

  56. I can only assume this means they want to trade Eli. Which is probably smart at this point, and now plausible with so many star QBs suddenly ailing.

    But I feel for Jones. Top-10 draft pick or not, this is a wreck of a team to be thrown into. But if he can develop a good rhythm with one receiver plus Barkley, the future could be bright. Prescott, Wentz, and Jones could be rivals for many years to come.

  57. Well, this happened about 5 weeks sooner than I thought it would. It kind of proves McAdoo was right too. He just didn’t have a #6 Draft Pick that lit up the pre-season to turn to, so he got the wrath of the Eli faithful. Eli is 116-116 as a starter. This will save him from having a losing record as a starter in the NFL. If he plays elsewhere, I’m sure he and his Dad will make sure it is a contender so as to not add to many more losses. Eli was the benefactor of a great pass rush matched against an immobile QB in the Super Bowls, and some incredible luck. The nationwide media support in the 2007 game didn’t hurt either. He has been a slightly above average QB. It could have been worse. It could have been better. But it is over. He should ask to be released so he can pick his team. Jacksonville, maybe Washington even, just to get the two games against the giants. Maybe the Colts if they don’t think Brissett can do it. They have the Cap Space. Nobody else that needs a QB has the salary cap space unless they cut players and/or restructure contracts. He won’t go to Miami. The Jet’s and Saints only need a short term backup QB. I believe Pittsburgh has only $1.767m in Cap Space right now so I’m not sure there is enough meat on that bone for Eli, but you never know. They could trade him to Jax on a restructured contract and he’d be out of the Division/Conference and 1000 miles away. It makes the most sense, but I could see Pittsburgh scrambling to see if they can re-conjure some of that luck Eli has had against NE. They are desperate for some of that LOL.

  58. carloswlassiter says:
    I bet he asked to be replaced to avoid the indignity of dropping below .500 for his career.
    ==

    I love it that certain Patriots fans are constantly on these boards taking shots at anything and everything having to do with the Giants and Eagles, despite that fact that the vast majority of those stories have nothing whatsoever to do with New England.
    I wonder what the common denominator could possibly be?
    0-3. Salty much?

  59. I would have started Eli through week 6, and if he was still looking tired then start Jones against Kyler’s Cardinal next. That would have gone down easier with most people still attached to Eli, but I understand why the Giants would want to move it up sooner while the losses haven’t piled up yet.

  60. I don’t get why they couldn’t just do this next year. The teams not winning, let Eli ride off into the sunset. Let Jones learn for a year. He just got drafted. And further more Eli gets all the blame when they surround him with an awful team.

  61. If Eli’s career is over,the facts are these:
    1) Most overrated QB ever.
    2) Sells fake stuff
    3) Refused to go to San Diego.
    4) Too many interceptions and losses.
    5) Super Bowls tainted by luck.
    6) Ugly

  62. Watch Daniel call play. See Daniel run for his life. Splat. Daniel is one unlucky guy to be drafted by the Giants.

  63. He will be the quarterback in Denver next year! Elway all ready licking his chops for a 2 super bowl win qb. Flacco 1 and done in Denver!

  64. love it that certain Patriots fans are constantly on these boards taking shots at anything and everything having to do with the Giants and Eagles, despite that fact that the vast majority of those stories have nothing whatsoever to do with New England.
    I wonder what the common denominator could possibly be?
    0-3. Salty much?
    ——————
    The common denominator??? How about Eli was not punishment by the NFL for selling fake game worn jerseys. As far as the Eagles, they won because the NFL decided to allow 2 TD’s that were not legal.
    But salty, no , 12 championships in 18 years the only tears are tears of joy. We have been blessed!

  65. Some cry for Eli if you want. I will remember how he pouted like a brat and refused to do to San Diego if they drafted him. Let’s not forget that.

  66. There is no one on line 1.Eli’s contract costs you about 1.7 mil per game in a trade. You let him clear waivers and get him at league minimum. If anyone has any interest.

  67. impeachgiants says:
    September 17, 2019 at 3:05 pm
    If Eli’s career is over,the facts are these:
    1) Most overrated QB ever.
    2) Sells fake stuff
    3) Refused to go to San Diego.
    4) Too many interceptions and losses.
    5) Super Bowls tainted by luck.
    6) Ugly
    ———————————————————-
    um, you forgot perenniall mouth breather….

    I am personally sad as a Cowboys fan no longer seeing that exasperated face and the childish throwing up of the hands as he gets picked, often for six. Never liked him, never thought he was close to elite. Many of his “famous” passes were thrown up for grabs, not down the pipe accurate. I am not even talking of the David Tyree pass.

  68. pointtwopsiistheissue says:
    The common denominator??? How about Eli was not punishment by the NFL for selling fake game worn jerseys. As far as the Eagles, they won because the NFL decided to allow 2 TD’s that were not legal.
    ==

    Wow. You couldn’t have confirmed my point any better if you’d actually tried.
    By the way, why reply with a different screen name? 🙂

  69. So dregonspengler I really enjoyed the fact that you left out the fact that there are no tears here in New England due to TWELVE championships in 18 years, LOL!!!
    Great editing to meet your agenda!
    Seven would be heaven !😄

  70. weepingjebus says:
    September 17, 2019 at 10:46 am

    The haters cheered on Father Time without realizing he was hunting Tom Brady through the process of elimination.

    ___________________________________________________

    Plot twist, Tom Brady is Father Time in disguise.

  71. pointtwopsiistheissue says:
    So dregonspengler I really enjoyed the fact that you left out the fact that there are no tears here in New England due to TWELVE championships in 18 years, LOL!!!
    Great editing to meet your agenda!
    Seven would be heaven !
    ==

    Nice argument — if you’re 12.
    I’m not some troll who comes here to poke at the Patriots. I came here to make one single point about certain Patriots posters with regard to the Giants and Eagles, and I made it.
    I left New England’s “12” championships (actually 6 in the NFL) out of my posts because it was not germane to either my original comment or the one I originally responded to.
    The Patriots can win 50 titles and it won’t ruin my day or affect me or my life in any way. You bringing it up seems like either an adolescent way of avoiding my original point, or perhaps you though I was dumb enough to take the bait and respond in kind?
    Have a nice day. 🙂

  72. You can change the quarterbacks all you want. They won’t win anything with that sad defense Gettlemen has cobbled together.

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