Packers would like to even out backfield work

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Over his first two seasons, Packers running back Aaron Jones averaged just over 10 touches per game but everyone expected that number to go up with head coach Matt LaFleur now running the offense.

Jones professed his excitement this offseason about the role that LaFleur had in mind for him and the first two weeks of the season have shown why he was looking forward to the new system. Jones has 41 touches over the first two games and set a career high with 23 carries in last Sunday’s victory over the Vikings.

All of those touches come with a lot of hits and Jones said he’s feeling fine, but he has ended the last two seasons on injured reserve and the Packers would like him on hand for the long haul this year. That’s why LaFleur is talking about finding more work for Jamaal Williams in the weeks to come.

“I think each game can dictate how much he’s going to carry the ball,” LaFleur said, via the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. “But I think all in all, I mean, that is a pretty physical position, and we’d like to keep a good balance between him and Jamaal, because we think Jamaal is a pretty darn good back as well. So we’d like to even out those touches a little bit.”

As the head coach and offensive playcaller, LaFleur has the ability to even them out but such plans may be easier said than carried out as long as Jones continues to produce as he did against Minnesota.

44 responses to “Packers would like to even out backfield work

  1. Jones did as well as Cook last Sunday, as long as you don’t place the seventy-five yard break-away for a touchdown in the mix. That’s kind of like including the passing yards gained on a Hail Mary completion. Sure, it happens, the yardage is there, but you have to place an asterisk on it. No different with a break-away. Hail Marys are hard. So are break-away’s, but it’s nothing you can expect regularly or plan for. All you can concede is; it happens……..and of course, the scoreboard.

  2. Nice problem to have Pack. I like the idea of a shared load….and it doesn’t necessarily need to be 50/50. Could more than likely extend the careers of both RBs, outside of a catastrophic knee injury. Hope I didn’t just jinx somebody.

  3. Seriously? They don’t have a backfield other than Oh AR save us again. A grand total of 191 TOTAL rushing yards in 2 games! and how many of those were made by AR? The NFC is very weak and though GB may be on top they’ll go down quickly in the playoffs. In the meantime AR is another year older.

  4. Aaron Jones is the feature back so he will get the most touches, but I don’t think he will have 23 rushes every game like against Minnesota. Jones also had 4 receptions against Minnie. I think Jamaal rushed 9 times and had 3 receptions so he was involved as well. As LaFleur said, each game will dictate the touches but he is confident in both backs rushing and receiving.

    I like that duo in the backfield and I think people worry about Aaron Jones getting injured just because he isn’t built like Derrick Henry. Jones has a running style that he avoids major hits and I do think he can stay healthy at 15-20 touches a game.

    I like that LaFleur has Jamaal and Jones in the game at the same time a lot. You can put one in motion and have one running the ball or one blocking and one running a pass route. Defenses are stressed more with 2 backs on the field at the same time.

    #GoPackGo!🏈

  5. A grand total of 191 TOTAL rushing yards in 2 games!
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    I know thinking can be hard, but I really shouldn’t have to point out that we played the top run defense in the league week one and another very good d week 2.

  6. stellarperformance says:
    September 19, 2019 at 8:33 am

    Jones did as well as Cook last Sunday, as long as you don’t place the seventy-five yard break-away for a touchdown in the mix. That’s kind of like including the passing yards gained on a Hail Mary completion. Sure, it happens, the yardage is there, but you have to place an asterisk on it. No different with a break-away. Hail Marys are hard. So are break-away’s, but it’s nothing you can expect regularly or plan for. All you can concede is; it happens……..and of course, the scoreboard.
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    And Kirk Cousins was as good as Aaron Rodgers on Sunday, as long as you take away the two interceptions and the fumble.

    You have no idea how ridiculous you sound, do you?

  7. Our Packers do have options. With our line, we could bring in Aaron’s brother and he’d get yards. He’d never know the play call, because Aaron wouldn’t talk to him, but he could still get a couple yards.

    It doesn’t matter who we put on the field at RB. The guy would be successful. Even if we played NE or KC. We would win. Every time. Because we are that good.

  8. I understand the reasoning and accept his opinion on the matter, but it is the first thing MLF has said that I disagree with.

  9. Rob Brzezinski is a Magician says:
    September 19, 2019 at 11:09 am
    stellarperformance says:
    September 19, 2019 at 8:33 am

    Jones did as well as Cook last Sunday, as long as you don’t place the seventy-five yard break-away for a touchdown in the mix. That’s kind of like including the passing yards gained on a Hail Mary completion. Sure, it happens, the yardage is there, but you have to place an asterisk on it. No different with a break-away. Hail Marys are hard. So are break-away’s, but it’s nothing you can expect regularly or plan for. All you can concede is; it happens……..and of course, the scoreboard.
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    And Kirk Cousins was as good as Aaron Rodgers on Sunday, as long as you take away the two interceptions and the fumble.

    You have no idea how ridiculous you sound, do you?
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    Not quite as ridiculous as you obviously think.
    Especially if you dive a little deeper into the numbers and factor in PFF rushing efficiency stats.
    This is just another tool PFF uses when rating RBs in overall performance.

    Rushing efficiency is defined as the number of carries that meets one of the following criteria: rushes four yards or longer; rushes that move the sticks; rushes that result in a touchdown.

    Cook is a talented RB, when healthy, nobody disputes this, but his overall totals, from Sunday, are defined in particular by one big splash play.
    Of Cook’s 20 rushes, 11 met the criteria for rushing efficiency, or 55%.

    As for Aaron Jones, of his 23 carries, 16 were defined as efficient rushes for a total of 69%.
    With 60% being the generally agreed upon threshold for excellence in efficient runs, Aaron Jones passed it easily and against a particularly good run defense.

    Granted, rushing behind completely different offensive lines, and against different run defenses, makes it difficult to make an easy apples to apples comparison, but it’s obvious that Green Bay and Aaron Jones did a great job rushing the football last Sunday.

  10. The butthurt and misery is rising in Barneyville.

    Enjoy the show while this clown cries on multiple SN’s.

    It would be funny if it wasn’t so pathetic.

  11. Jones looked good, and the blocking schemes used by the Pack, particularly the wide runs, were pretty effective.

  12. Personally, I honestly don’t care about a defined split in touches, as long as you’re getting enough healthy production out of the run game as a whole, and last week was definitely a lot better than Week 1.

    I like the status quo as it stands right now, and if Jones shows signs of fatigue you can always adjust accordingly.
    Giving Danny Vitale a couple of those carries or screens is a possible route too.

    But, when you get right down to it, Aaron Jones is just the more talented back and should garner the larger share of touches.
    I will agree that the position is a very physical one, everybody understands this, but you have to play to your teams strengths and talents.

  13. Black Talon says:
    September 19, 2019 at 12:00 pm
    Rob Brzezinski is a Magician says:
    September 19, 2019 at 11:09 am
    stellarperformance says:
    September 19, 2019 at 8:33 am

    Jones did as well as Cook last Sunday, as long as you don’t place the seventy-five yard break-away for a touchdown in the mix. That’s kind of like including the passing yards gained on a Hail Mary completion. Sure, it happens, the yardage is there, but you have to place an asterisk on it. No different with a break-away. Hail Marys are hard. So are break-away’s, but it’s nothing you can expect regularly or plan for. All you can concede is; it happens……..and of course, the scoreboard.
    _____________

    And Kirk Cousins was as good as Aaron Rodgers on Sunday, as long as you take away the two interceptions and the fumble.

    You have no idea how ridiculous you sound, do you?
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    Not quite as ridiculous as you obviously think.
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    It’s actually more ridiculous waffle. A desperation up for grabs throw is the same as a back choosing the correct hole then taking angles to make defenders look silly? Not to mention out running them all?

    Im not sure what all that pff blah blah blah has to due with this but I would look at a league leading 185 yards after contact over off ratings

  14. Stella you sound so absurd. “If you take away a great run of 75 yards from Cook, Jones did as well as Cook.” Cook still had 80 yards if you are silly enough to think this way. In your mind you think Jones is as good as Dalvin Cook when he isn’t. Dalvin Cook had 154 yards rushing against your team Sunday. Jones has 155 yards for the 2019.

  15. Lots to like about the play last week.

    If they keep playing defense the way they are, they’re going to win a lot of games, whether they score through the air, or on the ground.

  16. I can’t find the stat, but how often does a running play go for seventy-five yards or more for a touchdown? Not often. The odds are likely very close to that of a Hail Mary conversion. Gotta be.

    That’s my point…….not often. It can’t be taken into an average. Throw it out. It’s not rocket science.

  17. fmc651 says:

    September 19, 2019 at 2:21 pm

    Stella you sound so absurd. “If you take away a great run of 75 yards from Cook, Jones did as well as Cook.” Cook still had 80 yards if you are silly enough to think this way. In your mind you think Jones is as good as Dalvin Cook when he isn’t. Dalvin Cook had 154 yards rushing against your team Sunday. Jones has 155 yards for the 2019.

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    If you take away that run, Jones was leaps and bounds better than cook. That was half of Cook’s total yardage on the day. That call could’ve been reversed due to a hold on Montravius Adams as well, so if you take that away, he has 19 rushes for 79 yards. That’s really nothing impressive. Not saying Cook didn’t have a good game, because he did overall. But had that run not happened, we would be having a different discussion. Aaron Jones was still averaging almost 5 yards a carry if you subtract his longest run of 15 yards. That’s a solid performance with most of his runs. He also played the #1 rush defense last week and his line struggled to help him get passed the L.O.S. so, yeah, he has 155 yards on the year. But he has also played against two top-10 defenses and is still looking straight up. In the few coming weeks, look out.

  18. stellarperformance says:
    September 19, 2019 at 2:32 pm
    I can’t find the stat, but how often does a running play go for seventy-five yards or more for a touchdown? Not often. The odds are likely very close to that of a Hail Mary conversion. Gotta be.

    That’s my point…….not often. It can’t be taken into an average. Throw it out. It’s not rocket science.
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    Hey let’s just toss out all of Randy Moss’ 40+ yard TDs so Jordy Nelson can be just as good. Gosh, that was easy!

  19. Please just stop it, 116 yards by Jones is a good day I am not slighting Jones here but you are nuts with this – ” If you take away 75 yards” stuff. Cook made a great run why should that be taken away? The packers DB’s had a chance to catch Cook once he broke free. Give Cook credit for out running them.And Cook still had 80 yards, yes 80 yards rushing if you are thinking so strangely as to take away 75 yards from Cook’s rushing total. Football people aren’t saying Jones is Cook’s equal.Jones isn’t as good as Cook simple as that so again stop it.

  20. Aaron Jones had the more efficient day and it can be noted that Kenny Clark was out of the game on the 75 yard run by Cook.

    The bottom line and the thing that ends the debate on who had the better overall day is…

    Aaron Jones’ team WON THE GAME!

    #GoPackGo!🏈

  21. Liberalsruineverything says:
    September 19, 2019 at 3:08 pm
    Hey let’s just toss out all of Randy Moss’ 40+ yard TDs so Jordy Nelson can be just as good. Gosh, that was easy!
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Are you guys really that dense, or just obtuse? Let’s try this……the next time a Hail Mary is converted, let’s call it skillful and masterful, but don’t use the word “lucky,” even though it happens no less often than a running play for seventy-five yards and a TD……which happens everyday! OK…..is that better? All nice and balanced now?

  22. Everyone wants to try to compare apples to apples when it comes to position players on different teams… while stats and stuff for all those players make it easy to compare.

    Minnesota has leaned heavily on their RB position for over most of the last decade after drafting AP, and rightfully so. When you have guys like T-Jack, Ponder, and Cousins, I understand why the coach only wants to throw it 10 times a game. They have a very good RB again who can make plays and help them move the ball.

    GB has some very good talent and fit THEIR system, and what is asked of them, they want Rodgers making plays, I prefer Jones over Williams, and while McMarthy is gone I did like spelling the starting RB between the 40 yard lines to allow, the starter to get fresh when heading into the red zone.

  23. stellarperformance says:
    September 19, 2019 at 3:54 pm

    Are you guys really that dense, or just obtuse? Let’s try this……the next time a Hail Mary is converted, let’s call it skillful and masterful, but don’t use the word “lucky,” even though it happens no less often than a running play for seventy-five yards and a TD……which happens everyday! OK…..is that better? All nice and balanced now?
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    Just because two things happen at the same frequency doesn’t mean they’re both based on luck. A Hail Mary is by definition throwing the ball up for grabs and hoping your player comes down with it. A 75-yard run only happens if the right play is called against the right defense, the offensive line blocks effectively, the running back makes the right cuts, and the running back has the speed to outrun would-be tacklers. One of these things is luck. The other is a great play.

    It’s almost as if you don’t know anything about football.

  24. In other news, Adrian Peterson’s eight runs of 48 yards or more in 2012 have been removed from his 2,097 yard season. His revised total is 1,583 yards and his 6.03 yard average per carry has been revised down to 4.66. It turns out he wasn’t really that good that year after all.

  25. I checked. Last season there were seven touchdown runs of at least 75 yards. There was one successful Hail Mary (happened to be by the Vikings). I watched video of every run. They all involved great blocking at the line of scrimmage and downfield and they all featured a running back with great speed, vision, and sometimes power. There was no luck involved in any of them.

  26. I never said it was lucky. I said it was infrequent, and it is. It’s like the Diggs play against New Orleans. Did it require talent? Yes. Was it planned? No. Wait, what? It wasn’t planned but had good blocking? Yes. Was it unexpectedly fortunate? Sure was.

  27. There were an average of 60 plays called in each game last year, per team. 120 plays X times 16 games, X times 16 weeks = 30,000+ plays called.

    Seven were runs for a touchdown over 75 yards. Seven.

    That would be described as infrequent. So infrequent, it’s not a realistic representation…….much like a Hail Mary.

  28. stellarperformance says:
    September 19, 2019 at 6:20 pm

    I never said it was lucky. I said it was infrequent, and it is. It’s like the Diggs play against New Orleans. Did it require talent? Yes. Was it planned? No. Wait, what? It wasn’t planned but had good blocking? Yes. Was it unexpectedly fortunate? Sure was.
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    Big plays are a part of football. A player who can break a big play is very valuable and a player who breaks a big play along with many other good but smaller gains had a good game. The fact that it happens infrequently is not a reason to dismiss it when evaluating the performances of two players.

    I guarantee you the coaches are planning for almost every running play to be a touchdown if everybody executes the way they’re supposed to. That’s the difference between a long run and a Hail Mary.

    School is out.

  29. stellarperformance says:
    September 19, 2019 at 2:32 pm
    I can’t find the stat, but how often does a running play go for seventy-five yards or more for a touchdown? Not often. The odds are likely very close to that of a Hail Mary conversion. Gotta be.
    That’s my point…….not often. It can’t be taken into an average. Throw it out. It’s not rocket science.
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    Actually to throw it out then make the average inaccurate. In math you take the sum ALL the numbers of a data set (outliers included) and divide by the quantity of the numbers. You are right though it’s not rocket science, it’s basic math.

  30. Packers gave up big plays and they count, and they need to give up fewer ones, while I understand what your trying to say is that when the defense was set up and ready to go they dug in and did great, they bend but don’t break on the long drives, but the big plays like the Cook Run, the Diggs TD and Beebes big play all have a huge impact. Those big plays also contributed in the Packers defense being out on the feild WAY too long as the GB offense lost its groove in the second half allowing the VIkings to run the ball more effectively.

    I hope they fix the big plays, I hope they continue to generate pressure and SACK the QB instead of allowing him to get the throw off at the last possible moment, generate those turnovers, tackle better and hopefully show fans that this is not some sort of fluke.

  31. RMoss84HOF says:
    September 19, 2019 at 8:42 pm
    Actually to throw it out then make the average inaccurate. In math you take the sum ALL the numbers of a data set (outliers included) and divide by the quantity of the numbers. You are right though it’s not rocket science, it’s basic math.
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    I’ve had projects provide unusually high returns, and others that were snakebit and losers. For job-cost and performance tracking and pricing and projections, we take out the infrequent highs and lows because they don’t fit the norm, and average everything else. I’m applying the same correct stratagem here. It’s pretty basic.

  32. stellarperformance says:
    September 20, 2019 at 12:05 pm
    RMoss84HOF says:
    September 19, 2019 at 8:42 pm
    Actually to throw it out then make the average inaccurate. In math you take the sum ALL the numbers of a data set (outliers included) and divide by the quantity of the numbers. You are right though it’s not rocket science, it’s basic math.
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    I’ve had projects provide unusually high returns, and others that were snakebit and losers. For job-cost and performance tracking and pricing and projections, we take out the infrequent highs and lows because they don’t fit the norm, and average everything else. I’m applying the same correct stratagem here. It’s pretty basic.
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    Or you’re a delusional cheesehead that just makes stuff up and spends all week shoving square pegs into round holes. One of the two.

  33. I think the Viking trolls ought to get back to practicing how to high-five themselves in front of a mirror.

  34. tokyosandblaster says:
    September 20, 2019 at 3:04 pm
    Yards SUPER matter. The Vikings had more yards last week rushing and the Vikings won!
    …wait a minute…
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    According to your fellow “stellar” packer fan who said that Rodgers outperformed Brees, Brady, and Rivers last year, because he had more passing yards apparently they do.

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