Matt LaFleur: I don’t know what pass interference is anymore

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Instant replay on pass interference made a significant impact on Thursday night’s game, and Packers head coach Matt LaFleur was not happy about it.

LaFleur said after the loss to the Eagles that he was baffled by the calls, and he hinted that he’d like to say more but the NFL would fine him.

“I really don’t know what pass interference is anymore,” LaFleur said. “I’ll just leave it at that.”

The Eagles were given a touchdown when replay overruled an offensive pass interference call, in a surprise departure for NFL head of officiating Al Riveron, who had previously been very reluctant to overturn calls on the field. But later, when LaFleur challenged what appeared to be textbook defensive pass interference on a pass to Marquez Valdes-Scantling, the officiating office let the call stand.

On the Packers’ final offensive play, an Aaron Rodgers interception, Troy Aikman suggested on the FOX broadcast that the Eagles could have been flagged for interference, but the officials didn’t review the replay.

Philadelphia wasn’t thrilled with the officiating either, as coach Doug Pederson also lost a pass interference challenge.

What has become clear early in this NFL season is that replay review of pass interference is no panacea. Officiating remains as controversial as ever.

161 responses to “Matt LaFleur: I don’t know what pass interference is anymore

  1. Giving Eagles free TDs is something the zebras are known for. This has been noted time and time again in reference to a relatively recent Super Bowl that will remain nameless.

  2. One way to help with the officiating boondoggle would be for the NFL to hire full-time refs who will devote their entire work week to refining their skills. Right now the league operates with part-timers, and we can all see how unsatisfactory that’s turning out to be. Every week there are controversies with calls by the officials, and things are not improving. It’s time to do whatever is possible to improve the quality of the officiating, because it’s a debacle at present.

  3. What a surprise. By trying to correct last years nightmare in the playoffs, the NFL has actually made it worse. Go figure.

  4. NFL fans don’t know what it is see a coach lose the game without blaming the refs. As an eagles fan the refs put the screws to philly last week. Did I cry and complain? Nope, the team should’ve been in a sport where 3 blown calls don’t cost the game. Coach better and stop whining.

  5. “LaFleur said after the loss to the Eagles that he was baffled by the calls, and he hinted that he’d like to say more but the NFL would fine him.”

    So? He is a millionaire. Risk the fine for stating how ridiculous Al “Cry Me a” Riveron was with these inconsistent calls that arguably cost the Packers the game. Stand up for your players Matt. Let them see that you care (if you actually do).

  6. Good thing this will last 1 year. The NFL will only overturn a handful so they can say it doesn’t work and get rid of it. Common sense this replay is a joke and they know it.

  7. I’m an Eagles fan – and even I would say that James committed PI on GB’s final offensive play

    That said, with that little time on the clock, the refs should let the players play–no one wants to see a game decided by the refs

    But, yeah, the whole “inconsistency thing” is maddening

  8. Packers crying about calls that dont go their way is laughable. No team for the past 25 years has gotten more calls or fewer holding penalties called against them.

  9. Under the old rules there were always complaints and inconsistencies, but at least the variation in calls (or no calls) was spread out among a bunch of officials, making decisions in the heat of the moment, without benefit of replay.

    But under the new system one guy apparently controls everything, and yet he himself can’t even be consistent from call to call.

  10. Here is the solution to our pass interference woes:

    NFL: One-and-done with this ridiculous review. Call it a quirk, an aberration, a 100-year-anniversary stunt.

    Unintended consequences crowd: Don’t gloat. Just agree to take the high road if the NFL does the right thing.

    Good?

  11. of course he doesn’t know …. even those officiating don’t know, or don’t want to know. I truly believe that bias on Park Avenue is permeated throughout the league all the way down to the officials. Certain teams are supposed to win at certain times, period. There are two many obvious things happening that should not be allowed.

  12. First it was the Megatron catch rule, then it was the Aaron Rodgers bodyweight on the quarterback rule, now it’s the Saints’ pass interference rule.

    Every year the NFL finds a way to implement a knee-jerk rule that makes things worse, not better.

    Stop it.

  13. The pickers had numerous chances and couldn’t close it out. Don’t blame PI for their loss. They got more gifts from the officials than the seagulls did!

  14. I don’t know why when the Packers spent the night interfering by making contact before the ball arrived? The Eagles lost the same type of challenge when Jeffrey was interfered with latter in the game. The Packers lost the game because they couldn’t run the ball, period, end of story.

  15. I don’t like the reviews of PI. This is going to end up being a big cluster in the end when it ends up changing the outcomes of games all because of that idiot ref in the Saints game last year. What a mess. It is ruining the game.

  16. when they called three offensive pass interference penalties against the Vikings, he didn’t seem confused. But in fairness to everyone, this is no better than past seasons, maybe worse. They miss outright muggings on wide receivers and call incidental contact. I don’t blame him or Zimmer for getting salty when it costs you a game.

  17. That’s because it’s not your job to call it. It’s the Refs job, And after watching the Packers offensive line, I don’t know what holding is either. You are best to babysit that prima donna. Because it sounded like Buck and Aikmann were trying their hardest. (On the Packers’ final offensive play, an Aaron Rodgers interception, Troy Aikman suggested on the FOX broadcast that the Eagles could have been flagged for interference,)

  18. This is getting very stupid, a ref throws a flag for a penalty he/she views then they pick up the flag and say no penalty? Then why did you throw a flag????????????????????????????????????
    If they don’t know the rules maybe they shouldn’t be on the field.

  19. I actually love the way they are handling the replay of PI. This is how replay should work in all sports. It has to be rediculously obvious for them to change the call. They need to have that same standard for all replay. If you have to watch frame by frame leave the call on the field

  20. I didn’t hear coach complain when the worst PI call so far this season wiped out a Vikings TD and allowed the Packers to win. It works both ways. Finally the Packers got theirs.

  21. Matt it is what the instant replay buttons thinks it is on any given day! Or maybe it is he doesn’t like you, the packers or your qb. This instant replay is a joke and corrupt! Put another referee on the field and get rid of this crap!

  22. It seems like their standard is something along the lines of ‘it has to be a massively blown call to overturn’ vs ‘was it pass interference’. I get the concept of not wanting a repeat of the saints / rams situation, but the result is to allow a bunch of pass interference to go uncalled because it was *only pass interference* and not *major pass interference*. It makes it very difficult for the coaches to know what to challenge, or for the fans to know what to expect on a review.

  23. That’s OK, Mr. LaFleur. No-one seems to know what it is.

    Could be a long season. Might have to put an asterisk next to it.

  24. scrap the replay rule…. Somehow get the officials on the field better qualified to do their job and let’s live with the on field judgements…

  25. Doug Pederson is probably saying the same thing. Both teams got hosed on challenged would-be PI calls. The refs may have been awful in this area, but at least they were consistent in their awfulness.

  26. I had the game on for a couple minutes and noticed one of the running backs had a dark, tinted face shield and was allowed to play with it after OBJ was forced to change out a much lighter shield.

    What gives NFL? I think the dark shield that make it impossible to see the runner’s eyes give a small competitive advantage and should never have been allowed in the first place. If you can’t see your eyes its harder to tell which way they’re going to cut.

  27. The only thing surprising about someone “not knowing what pass interference is anymore” is that it implied they felt they did up to that point. It’s been some time now since the ‘know it when you see it’ standard made it fairly clear when everyone actually saw it.

  28. “Al, this is Roger. We’re gonna need it to go the Eagles way tonight”.
    Sorry Packer Nation, the NFL needs the Eagles to stay in a race with Cowboys in the East, and you guys will be just fine after the KC/Detroit game this weekend.

  29. Another year, another NFL mess. The no-call on Jeffery? Replay showed clearly that it was PI, his hand was pushed out of position making the catch literally impossible. The problem, I guess, was that it didn’t “look” egregious enough – even though it was as devastating to the success of the play as just tackling him would have been.

  30. They say they’ll overturn it if it’s egregious like in the NFC Championship game. Apparently, you have to knock the guy down completely or cut off his arm in order for it to be considered egregious.

  31. LaFleur/Packers complaining about officiating? I’ve seen it all. What a complete joke. Every team that plays them gets hosed every week.

  32. While you’re brushing up on PI you should also do a little research on run defense because it doesn’t appear you know what that is either.

  33. “I don’t know what pass interference is anymore.” Yeah, since pass interference has been called so consistently throughout the years.

  34. Their we’re some bad calls on both teams but it was consistent. Just sour grapes from LaFleur after a loss.

  35. Hey Matt, don’t forget to also complain about refs missing Aaron’s pass clearly hitting the ground before being scooped up that Pack got away with to keep that late drive hope alive.

  36. It’s kinda hard to catch the ball with our arms wrapped up…Unreal! Without fantasy football the NFL would be on it’s death bed. I’ll give it another 5-7 years before the NBA is more popular than the NFL.

  37. When a deliberate decision is made to make the wrong call, for instance the Saints playoff call, and a lot of money, a lot of money, is involved, then suspect the worse. Think Blacksox. It’s obvious, see it or wear blinders.

  38. they prepped us with the no call in the NFCCG last year, once they saw that they can do whatever they want, we get what you are seeing this season. And it just so happens that there was a huge turnover as mostly new refs come in and sports betting is legal. Your team will eventually get hosed like my saints did, then we saints fans wont look as bad for all the whinning that we did.

  39. I liked the no calls on the WRs. Both defending corners looked back and played the ball. The Eagles corner was close to PI, but he did look back and he didn’t hinder the WRs hands. The Receiver should have caught it. Packers corner did hit Jeffery’s arm, but he was playing the ball and looking back. I think that this replay/Challenge should be reserved for “blatant” Pass interference. Not ticky-tack plays.

  40. They will not overturn anything that wasn’t as obvious as that fateful no-call back in January. Anything short of that will stand. It’s unfortunate, but on the other hand –

    YOUR FIRST PLACE DETROIT LIONS!!!

  41. haha…..like anyone really does…everything is made up week to week….it’s a catch, many years ago the game had a much better flow to watch without hi-def and all the replays and challenges….but then again large screen hi def TV’s and tons of camera angles are fun to.
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  42. As a Bears fan, I have to agree with Matt. Both of those plays were pass interference. Get rid of this new rule of challenging PI, because the upholding of the officials non call when PI is clear as day is going to embarrass this league on a weekly basis way worse than a few missed or bad calls did last year. Maybe work on improving the officiating instead.

  43. The Eagles were given a touchdown when replay overruled an offensive pass interference call

    >>

    You don’t say… Remember how much you agreed with the Diggs TD overruled because of Cooks ‘pass interference’ when they were reviewing the touchdown? Sucks, huh?

    Loved all the pass interference calls against the Eagles when the pass was incomplete late in the 4th Qtr and green bas was losing, the Packer refs really tried hard to get them the win.

  44. I know he’s a new coach, but the coaches of the Packers have been benefiting from non-calls for decades. Their OL holds more than anyone……even Stevie Wonder throws flags!!

  45. First off let me say that the Packers deserved to lose the game. But I still think that Riveron needs to be replaced by a competent head of officiating. These are his officials who are not doing their jobs competently. That official who threw the picked up flag on the Eagles touchdown was watching what? They never really touched each other. A flag should definitely have been thrown and the challenge should have been upheld on the Packers non PI. Rogers int at the end of the game should have been reviewed because the receiver was held – maybe not PI but definitely holding – and no turnover review ( couldnt have been because the play started too soon after the turnover- I have seen obvious TD’s take longer to be reviewed). If he cannot get the job done he should be replaced. This is the 3rd consecutive year that the officials have been screwing things up royally – and it is because of him – already this year 3 game changing events if you include Denver’s roughing the passer call that shouldnt have occured.

  46. Any team that runs 4 pass plays with 1st and goal from the 1 is soft as a grape and won’t win anything.

  47. there is only one thing worse than a call being missed on the field…. having it reviewed and still missing the call….. throw the rule out!!

  48. I know what a Pass Interference is! It’s when the Patriots have the ball on 3rd down and long, usually more than 10 yards, and Brady just lobs the ball in the air that is uncatchable while the Patriots receiver flops resulting in a Defensive Pass Interference which gives the Patriots a first down!

    Simple.

  49. canadapackers says:
    September 27, 2019 at 9:18 am

    Rogers int at the end of the game should have been reviewed because the receiver was held – maybe not PI but definitely holding

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    Holding is not reviewable. You can get your sour grapes in the produce section.

  50. Different New Lions says:
    September 27, 2019 at 8:59 am
    They will not overturn anything that wasn’t as obvious as that fateful no-call back in January. Anything short of that will stand. It’s unfortunate, but on the other hand –

    YOUR FIRST PLACE DETROIT LIONS!!!
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    They already have overturned non-obvious calls.
    Week 2, they removed a touchdown from the Vikings when there wasn’t even a challenge to PI. They just called offensive PI from a New York office. Again. There was no PI called to be challenged. They just changed the play from an office with no request from any coach.

    But congrats to the Lions.
    They are currently in first place.

  51. toothfairyretributionmanifesto says:

    September 27, 2019 at 9:12 am

    A lot of nerve to complain about something that single-handedly gave them a victory just 2 weeks ago
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    Single handedly? You sure it wasnt your 84 million dollar QB?

    Anyways, I agree the one on the TD should have been overturned, however the call on MVS was blatantly obvious. It’s very frustrating for millions of fans watching at home and the announcers who have watched tons of football and a “rules” expert telling us all what we are seeing and how it should be called, then it goes the complete opposite. Very frustrating, and sadly calls like this happen every single game.

  52. Making what is a catch and now pass interference ambiguous is perfect for one thing, being able to rig games.

  53. It really was a strange non-call. It seemed like the textbook situation that the rule change was designed for. Despite that, they didnt lose because of a bad PI non-call. The Packers lost because they couldnt win at the line of scrimmage. They couldnt run and they couldnt stop the run. They became one dimensional and then lost their number one receiver late in the game and the Eagles made a play. It was a good game.

  54. You know what I would like to see just out of curiosity. I know everyone is freaking out with anything happens with replay. But lets go back and let’s say the perfect season the Dolphins had and watch the entire season and use replay on it. How many blatant mistakes were made. I remember one to this day where the refs gave a phantom PI call late in the game that lead to a go ahead TD. My point is I bet there were flat out blown calls made that didn’t have super slow mo and 6 angles. So I think if some people long for the days of the past they might be surprised. We didn’t get here because everything went great in the past we got here because all the mistakes that were made.

  55. @ eaglesfanalways says:

    Yo, Matt…you benefited enough from questionable calls that you shouldn’t be complaining.

    Both PI defensive PI challenges should have been overturned, and Aikman is right. James had Valdes-Scantling’s arms pinned to his side by holding him before the ball got to him, causing the ball to bounce off the receiver’s shoulder – go back and watch the play. And on top of that, Barnett’s hit on Williams was flat-out dirty. He should have been ejected, but he wasn’t even flagged for the late hit.

    Take your gifted win, and keep your mouth shut. The Eagles should be 1-3 right now.

  56. I think its only fitting after last nite to echo the words of the great Philosopher Dennis Green when it comes to the Packers and you can toss in that Defense too” They are who we thought they were”.

  57. Matt LaFleur was asked a question and answered it. He didn’t bring this up. The media wants to try and create drama over the officials and make it seem like everyone is still complaining about this so they have articles to write.

    The Packers main concern is making sure Jamaal Williams is ok and now it’s on to Dallas.

    #GoPackGo!🏈

  58. Pass interference is what the officials say it is. It is the offical on the field and in the review booth who decide what is and what isn’t interference.

  59. Don’t mention the blatant King PI on Jeffrey that wasn’t corrected.
    Strange that the grabby Packers OL is never called for holding, year in and year out despite obvious infractions.

    Whining with their cheese

  60. The Refs were consistent. They called it a little too loose for my taste, but I’d prefer consistency over being tickytacky sometimes and turning a blind eye at others.

    The Packers got outplayed and outcoached. The end.

  61. ramsnation88 says:
    September 27, 2019 at 9:41 am
    Thanks saints the game is so fun now
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    Ain’t the Saints fault. Blame pathetic officiating lapses.
    It’s a tough job for officials and they need help, but sure as heck ain’t getting it.

  62. Remember when Packer fans thought they had a goood defense?1?! LOL!! Same ol below average defense with no running game!! If Aaron Rodgers is an elkite QB he wins that game last night.

  63. He must be referring to the play in which the packers db clearly hit Alshons hand early but there was no call.

  64. Remember when nobody knew what a catch was? Well now nobody knows what PI is! Isn’t it wonderful how the refs can decide a game

  65. It’s so obvious the NFL is sabotaging replay so fans get upset to the point they want to completely do away with it. That plan is working. They could get every call right and not cause any delays. We’ve had that technology for years. They’re just pretending to be dumb. The league doesn’t want replay. This doesn’t have anything to do with Thursday’s game. It’s every game. There’s no way I should be able to see the right call from my TV, but the guys running the games can’t. And they’ve got way better equipment than I do. Even when the refs see the obvious call, it’s their choice whether or not they want to enforce the rules. Each ref makes it up as they see fit. or as they’re being told to do. The players aren’t determining the outcomes of the games anymore. The refs are, and that’s the way the league wants it. I don’t gamble and I don’t have a vested interest, so I’m still highly entertained by the games. But it’s obvious what’s going on.

  66. Hey Matt, you beat the Vikings with NY coming up with a mysterious offensive PI the refs didn’t see away from the TD catch, not much sympathy for you on this one. The game is 4 quarters, you might want to learn to coach during the game rather than relying on your script and then floundering for 3 quarters.

  67. Replay just gives more people a chance to throw in their $0.02 on what are totally judgment calls. That doesn’t make the calls any better. An imperfect process with more people involved is still an imperfect process.

  68. It took Zimmer 1 quarter to figure out the Packers vaunted offense. From that point on the Vikings played 16-0 football with the refs taking a TD off the scoreboard. Within a game or two teams will figure out his scripted plays and the Packers season will be over. Its already clear as day Rogers is not what he was 3 years ago. 53 passes and 4 in a row on 1st and goal at the 1 and he couldn’t make it happen. Not good.

  69. Was the game ending turnover even reviewed? Aikman mentioned it looked like it could have been PI. It certainly looked possible from the one and only angle I saw. I guess that’s one way not to make a bad call— just ignore your responsibility to automatically review it entirely. Way to take it to the next level NFL!

  70. Why are people knocking on packers fans for wanting the call to go correctly? I mean… yes wrong calls have benefited the packers in the past… but … they did not choose that route. Wanting a fair game should be everyone’s goal plain and simple. Bickering about who’s been wronged worse helps nobody.

  71. Whats more inconsistent? The officials calls or LaFluer being upset the calls went against him this week, but made no comment on the calls that went his way 2 weeks ago against the Vikings.

    Sometimes the ball bounces your way, sometimes it goes the other.

  72. In today’s NFL, we don’t know what a catch is, we don’t know what pass interference is, there’s holding on every play (which may or may not be called), and wins and losses are being decided by the officiating crew. Something needs to change!

  73. We all know what a catch is and what pass interference is. What we don’t know is what the call will be or the absurd explanation as to why the call made doesn’t match the replay.

  74. I wonder what Matt’s opinion of the DPI was when his defender literally moves Alshon Jeffrey’s hand out of the way of catching the ball. The ball went to the exact spot the ball was headed to.

    It’s just a bad rule.

  75. Wasn’t Blandino in charge when SB LII was played and most of us were represented by Collinsworth who said ‘I don’t know what a catch is anymore (referring to the bobbled catch in the back of the end zone by an Eagles RB and Ertz’s losing the ball at the ground late in the game.)’

    Hey Matt: you got an unearned DPI on at least one occasion (uncatchable ball at sideline) and also late in the game near the goal line. I do not feel your pain. Two tries 1st and goal inside the five and from the 1 and you don’t get it done? Rodgers ain’t Brady and you aren’t Belichick. Your RB pounds it like Marshawn and is very tough to tackle and you didn’t run it from the 1? Darrell Bevell mistake.

  76. Pass interference is whatever Riverwrong says it is. What coaches should pay attention to is that it is a waste to challenge these calls. Riverwrong will do nothing to reverse a call from his incompetent refs have made.

  77. tinye67 says:
    September 27, 2019 at 7:16 am
    Packers crying about calls that dont go their way is laughable. No team for the past 25 years has gotten more calls or fewer holding penalties called against them.
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    You mean like the fail Mary? Or the Jerry Rice fumble that inexplicably wasn’t and ended the Packers season? Or the uncalled face mask by the Cardinals which ended another Packer season?

  78. eseisfattening says:
    September 27, 2019 at 11:46 am
    Karma. Packer fans were happy not knowing what PI was in week 2
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    Vikings fans were happy not knowing what roughing the passer was in week 2 last year.

  79. How was the last play not reviewed. When you look at the tape in slow motion the defender had the receivers arms wrapped up while the ball was 3 feet short of the receiver. If that is not clear and obvious I don’t know what is.

    Since it was in the last 2 minutes of the game and it was also a turnover, that is an automatic review. If that was reviewed I would love to here the explanation but I thought I heard them say it wasn’t reviewed. Even Aikman said it looked like PI.

  80. not the refs guys they see what we see in the replay. NFL has obviously instructed them to never overturn any calls to Pass interference unless someone gets completely mauled, but doesn’t want to let that leak to the public. I personally kinda like it, i feel like in slow motion a majority of plays would be PI. let me know if you have seen any PI called after the the replay this year i haven’t yet.

  81. What multiplies the problem for the league is that since officials on the field know that PI is reviewable, they won’t call some PI’s because, hey it’ll just be reviewed and overturned. Kinda like the league is telling officials to let loose balls run their course, if it’s down by contact the review official will overturn it, so field officials are letting stuff they know are down go.

  82. Its just like the catch rule a few years ago. nobody knew what a catch was.

    The problem is these refs all have different opinions on what a penalty is these days.

    Its getting closer and closer to being as fake as the NBA

  83. To the packer fan talking about the Broncos game. The refs took a TD off the board against the Broncos on a horrible call when the score was 10-7. Second week in a row refs taking TD’s away from packers opponents and they almost did it to the Eagles on another OPI.

  84. To be honest I could care less. I’ll gladly take a few missed PI calls over the alternative of having every contested ball called either offensive or defensive pass interference.

  85. As a Saints fan, I can say I know what pass interference is. On the other hand, this interference replay BS is a crock and has no place in the game. It seems like when there was NO replay, there were fewer bad calls and you just had to live with them. Officials are people and not infallible. It was just part of the game. Now, watching games suck because there’s no flow, no continuity. All replay does is allow networks to sell yet more commercial time, because it seems like at least once a quarter, there’s a stoppage for replay or a ref confab or the like. Let men play like men and officiate accordingly. I truly love football, despite being a Saints fan since their inception, but I can barely stand to watch a game anymore.

  86. kingokra says:
    September 27, 2019 at 3:58 pm
    As a Saints fan, I can say I know what pass interference is. On the other hand, this interference replay BS is a crock and has no place in the game. It seems like when there was NO replay, there were fewer bad calls and you just had to live with them. Officials are people and not infallible. It was just part of the game. Now, watching games suck because there’s no flow, no continuity. All replay does is allow networks to sell yet more commercial time, because it seems like at least once a quarter, there’s a stoppage for replay or a ref confab or the like. Let men play like men and officiate accordingly. I truly love football, despite being a Saints fan since their inception, but I can barely stand to watch a game anymore

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    You have expressed what all true football fans are feeling about the game they love. Well said kingokra

  87. fritzerland says:
    September 27, 2019 at 7:11 am

    I’m an Eagles fan – and even I would say that James committed PI on GB’s final offensive play

    That said, with that little time on the clock, the refs should let the players play–no one wants to see a game decided by the refs

    But, yeah, the whole “inconsistency thing” is maddening.

    __________________________________________________________

    Ignoring an obvious foul is deciding the game too, except in favor of the team that wronged the other.

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