Jaguars worried about Gardner Minshew taking low hits

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Jaguars coach Doug Marrone had a message to send, and he chose his words carefully.

Having already lost one quarterback this year, Marrone is clearly worried about some recent hits rookie Gardner Minshew II has taken, specifically the low ones.

In their game against the Broncos, there were unflagged hits by Bradley Chubb and Von Miller which drew fines later, along with the hit from Todd Davis that led to a knee injury. Minshew has been wearing a brace on his left knee since then.

Last week at Carolina, Minshew stared down an official and pointed at Panthers outside linebacker Brian Burns after another low tackle.

“I would hope that everyone’s doing what they’re supposed to do and those are penalties for hitting him low,” Marrone said via Garry Smits of the Florida Times-Union. “I think you get concerned when things are happening to your team that aren’t getting called. . . .

“Obviously, those things … We have the ability to turn them in, make people aware of it prior to [a game]. But . . . during the course of the game, you like to see that stuff get called and make sure that player safety is the number one thing that we harp on and we talk about. So, that’s the one thing that we should be doing well.”

Marrone doesn’t want to raise too much of a stink, but without Nick Foles, he can’t afford to be without Minshew, so he’s obviously hoping some top-of-mind-awareness will help officials be mindful of his quarterback’s health.

30 responses to “Jaguars worried about Gardner Minshew taking low hits

  1. The inconsistency of roughing the passer calls across the league is what drives fans to cry “favoritism” about certain quarterbacks and/or certain rushers. The league needs to clean it up and make consistent calls.

  2. Can’t hit them high, can’t hit them low, can’t hit them when they slide. What’s next?

  3. redlikethepig says:
    October 8, 2019 at 9:18 am
    Can’t hit them high, can’t hit them low, can’t hit them when they slide. What’s next?

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    What’s next is a massive drought in QBs being good enough and pro ready enough to avoid running all the time, which means there is going to be a huge drought for star QBs that the league is looking for.

    If the QBs are always hurt from running too much, well, then you have a problem.

  4. Agree with the DPR comment; it is the Inconsistency of the calls that is the REAL problem. Certain QB s cannot even be touched without a penalty and fine, while other QB s take vicious hits that go uncalled. Plus, certain elite pass rushers seem to be able to get away with more during games. That is no way to Officiate at the Professional level. This collection of Officials and their leader Al Riveron cannot seem to get a handle on this game and that is damn Scary! These are highly paid , supposed specialists that appear lost in space.

  5. tylawspick6 says:

    October 8, 2019 at 8:46 am

    Umm, stop running and stop drafting QBs who run so much. It won’t work.

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    You should watch some film before you open your mouth, he was in the pocket for every low hit he has taken. Hes not a run first QB.

  6. Maybe if they were worried about building an NFL-caliber offensive line they wouldn’t have to worry about it. They only have two good OL to begin with and when they got hurt last year they were replaced with guys who couldn’t even make the roster on any other team. When you have guys who aren’t good enough to make the cut out of training camp starting on your offensive line what do you think’s going to happen? They have ZERO depth at OL. In fact, some of the guys starting wouldn’t be starting anywhere else. That OL has been garbage for the last five years or more. I thought Coughlin was big on building an offensive line? Apparently not. Their OL is an embarrassment. They finally have a QB who can play and the OL can’t block Betty White. Just another season in Jacksonville–winning less than five games.

  7. They almost handed the Bears the game with that bogus roughing callon Maurice Hurst. He moved to the side and tackeld him without putting his full weight on him but its the Raiders so they will always do that to us.

    Furthermore, if the pass was thrown and was intercepted, why wasnt it Raiders ball with a 15 yard penalty? Oh thats right, because they want the Raiders to lose.

    Nonsensical.

  8. TheDPR says: “The inconsistency of roughing the passer calls across the league is what drives fans to cry “favoritism” about certain quarterbacks and/or certain rushers. The league needs to clean it up and make consistent calls.”
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    Matt Ryan is leading the RTP calls in 2019 with 4. Mariota and Goff is next with 3. Aaron Rodgers has 1, Tom Brady has 0.

    In 2018, Ryan Fitzpatrick led with 7, Russell Wilson and Wentz both had 6 RTP calls. Brady had 4, Rodgers and Brees had only 1 each.

    Brady, Brees and Rodgers are in the middle to low end of getting RTP calls (per 100 pass attempts):

    – Tom Brady at 0.41
    – Drew Brees at 0.44
    – Aaron Rodgers at 0.51

    On the other end are guys like:
    – Ryan Fitzpatrick at 1.07
    – Marcus Mariota at 0.83
    – Carson Wentz at 0.80
    – Cam Newton at .071

  9. tomfrontera8393 says: “Plus, certain elite pass rushers seem to be able to get away with more during games. That is no way to Officiate at the Professional level. This collection of Officials and their leader Al Riveron cannot seem to get a handle on this game and that is damn Scary!”
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    Demarcus Lawrence, Myles Garrett, Yannick Ngakoue and JJ Watt all leading 2019 with 2 RTPs each. Pretty sure they’re in the “elite pass rushers” category…

  10. protozoa5 says:
    October 8, 2019 at 9:55 am
    tylawspick6 says:

    October 8, 2019 at 8:46 am

    Umm, stop running and stop drafting QBs who run so much. It won’t work.

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    You should watch some film before you open your mouth, he was in the pocket for every low hit he has taken. Hes not a run first QB.

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    Ugh. Another hotshot who doesn’t get it. The ball needs to be out so he’s not scrambling.

    Thta’s how Went got hurt. Scamrbled, didn’t go through his reads properly based on the defense shown, and then panicked, running forward for a blown out ACL.

    It has nothing to do with him trying to run first; it has to do with the ability to lead a pro offense in the NFL, properly.

    The defenders are too fast and strong. Defenses are too smart. You have to get the ball out asap.

    Get it?

  11. tylawspick6 says: “Umm, stop running and stop drafting QBs who run so much. It won’t work.”

    And then:

    tylawspick6 says: “Ugh. Another hotshot who doesn’t get it. The ball needs to be out so he’s not scrambling.”
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    Somebody’s SCRAMBLING back hard on his original comment, and it’s not Minshew…

  12. That’s cute. Tylaw how often does TB12 have to release it fast. Or Roger’s. On average they have anywhere for 2-4 seconds to get rid of the ball. Gardner does read his progressions, doesn’t make a difference when he’s blasted low constantly

  13. Ugh. Another hotshot who doesn’t get it. The ball needs to be out so he’s not scrambling.

    Thta’s how Went got hurt. Scamrbled, didn’t go through his reads properly based on the defense shown, and then panicked, running forward for a blown out ACL.

    It has nothing to do with him trying to run first; it has to do with the ability to lead a pro offense in the NFL, properly.

    The defenders are too fast and strong. Defenses are too smart. You have to get the ball out asap.

    Get it?

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    Another Pat’s fan who thinks he knows everything because he jumped on the band wagon.

    Guess I’ll say it again so hopefully you can understand it this time. Watch the film he was in the pocket not scrambling or running and the players went low. Most of them where after the ball left his hand but all were IN THE POCKET.

  14. Suffice it to say, tylawspick6 has a low football IQ. Probably from being a know it all Pats fan. I’m glad a few of have set him straight.

  15. darrenkod says:
    October 8, 2019 at 11:29 am
    tylawspick6 says: “Umm, stop running and stop drafting QBs who run so much. It won’t work.”

    And then:

    tylawspick6 says: “Ugh. Another hotshot who doesn’t get it. The ball needs to be out so he’s not scrambling.”
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    Somebody’s SCRAMBLING back hard on his original comment, and it’s not Minshew…

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    How am I scrambling? People claim Brady isn’t allowed to be touched, but when they’re running the offense right, he leads the league every year in terms of time spent getting the ball distributed based on what the defense shows.

    Get it?

    I am not scrambling at all. You either can develop a QB that has Brady skills or you can’t.

    The defenders are way faster than when Fran Tarkenton was running, Favre, Flutiie or Mike Vick.

    That QB cannot sustain in this era. Period.

    Look at Mayfield right now. Case closed. Cannot sustain. Once the film is out on their tendencies, it’s lights out. They never had another gear regardless if the QB thinks he’s cool with a headband or a mustache for the younger, less knowledgeable fans.

    Enjoy!

  16. willkeepdrinkingthekoolaid says:
    October 8, 2019 at 11:30 am
    That’s cute. Tylaw how often does TB12 have to release it fast. Or Roger’s. On average they have anywhere for 2-4 seconds to get rid of the ball. Gardner does read his progressions, doesn’t make a difference when he’s blasted low constantly

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    Umm, if he’s got the ball out, he’s not “constantly” being hit ANYWHERE. Get it?

  17. Good God,
    Please help the soul of this ignorant know it all. How many times have it been mentioned that he was in the pocket, not scrambling. You just can’t accept the fact that Brady isn’t mentioned in every article, or is it the fact that we finally have a solid crop of good young QBs, and that must make you fear the time your majesty Tom Brady is getting older and older.

  18. tylawspick6 says:
    October 8, 2019 at 12:06 pm
    willkeepdrinkingthekoolaid says:
    October 8, 2019 at 11:30 am
    That’s cute. Tylaw how often does TB12 have to release it fast. Or Roger’s. On average they have anywhere for 2-4 seconds to get rid of the ball. Gardner does read his progressions, doesn’t make a difference when he’s blasted low constantly

    2 1 Rate This

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    Umm, if he’s got the ball out, he’s not “constantly” being hit ANYWHERE. Get it?

    If the kid had a better OL he would. But that’s not your argument. You accused him of being a scrambling QB which is false. He reads his progressions and stays in the pocket

  19. If the kid had a better OL he would. But that’s not your argument. You accused him of being a scrambling QB which is false. He reads his progressions and stays in the pocket

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    Wrong. Playcalling is key as is what he feels comfortable with. They use a big, bruising back in Fournette to make him feel more comfortable, yet he still holds the ball when the pocket breaks.

    Sorry, you’re wrong. I’ve seen him panic.

    Most younger QBs get away with it in college and think they can do it in the pros. The ball needs be out.

    He doesn’t do that well and doesn’;t step up into the pocket to throw.

  20. Here are the scouting report weaknesses for Minshew. Note the last one. This means he doesn’t have a high football IQ. The ball needs to be out. So, the scouting report mentions the problem he is having now, but the ball isn’t out enough in time.

    “Unlikely to run away from rushers”….Well, if the ball was out more regularly, this wouldn’t be a weakness.

    Weaknesses
    Below-average height for an NFL quarterback
    High number of batted passes with more likely to come in the pros
    Benefitted from scheme that allowed an abundance of one-on-ones
    Scouts are concerned by perceived lack of arm strength
    Awful game against Washington after dominating lesser defenses in conference
    Very little stride-and-drive in his release
    Intermediate and deep throws require additional air
    Nose of the ball will drop some on drive throws
    Appears to lack some confidence with touch throws over linebackers in zone
    Defaults to the short read on high/low looks
    Unlikely to run away from closing rushers

  21. tylawspick6 says:
    October 8, 2019 at 1:13 pm
    If the kid had a better OL he would. But that’s not your argument. You accused him of being a scrambling QB which is false. He reads his progressions and stays in the pocket

    2 0 Rate This

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    Wrong. Playcalling is key as is what he feels comfortable with. They use a big, bruising back in Fournette to make him feel more comfortable, yet he still holds the ball when the pocket breaks.

    Sorry, you’re wrong. I’ve seen him panic.

    Most younger QBs get away with it in college and think they can do it in the pros. The ball needs be out.

    He doesn’t do that well and doesn’;t step up into the pocket to throw
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    We must be watching different games. Cause every game I seen he does just fine in the pocket.
    And your seriously placing play calling on him.
    Last I checked that’s on the HC,and OC, not the qb

  22. As a Lions fan I learned something valuable over the years. Scouting reports are freaking joke. For example Brandon Pettigrew was given high grades by several teams scouting. And where is he now. Out of the league. Same goes for Charles Rodgers and Mike Williams. Both supposed to be once in a generation talent.

  23. Minshew wouldn’t be getting hit low or that much at all if his receivers were in position…seems like during the game against the Panthers there was often nobody out there to throw the ball to anyway so he ended up having to run the ball, slide to save himself & prevent injury, or get tackled by a whole group. JAX need to work more on “group consciousness” or working together s a cohesive unit as one mind in sync together with Minshew leadership…any 1 mate not on board with that or distracted will throw the whole plays off! Go JAX! You all can do it!

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