Aaron Rodgers: Bad calls equal out over the years

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Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers wasn’t shedding any tears for the Lions after Monday night’s game.

The Lions were victimized by the officials repeatedly — two phantom illegal hands to the face penalties on Detroit’s Trey Flowers, an uncalled pass interference and a flag for a helmet-to-helmet hit on a Lions defensive back who was just diving for the ball — but Rodgers thinks the Packers have had their share of bad calls go against them too.

According to Matt Schneiderman of TheAthletic.com, Rodgers smirked when asked if he thinks the Packers caught breaks with bad officiating.

“I think it equals out pretty good over the years,” Rodgers said.

Rodgers was likely thinking of the “Fail Mary,” the infamous replacement refs’ call that cost the Packers a game against the Seahawks. Perhaps those bad calls last night were justice for the Packers for the Fail Mary.

But there’s been no officiating justice for the Lions.

97 responses to “Aaron Rodgers: Bad calls equal out over the years

  1. I’ve never seen officiating this bad in a major sport. The NBA, MLB, NHL and Soccer leagues don’t have issues anywhere close to this level of magnitude when it comes to officiating.

    The fact that most NFL fans know the officials on a first name basis is very worrying. I couldn’t name 5 Referees from the NBA, I’ll tell you that……

  2. Not a Lions fan, but have to say they have been victimized by bad officiating more than most. The original “Calvin Johnson Rule” play against the Bears. The phantom defensive holding call in the playoffs against the Cowboys. Heck, two years ago Eric Ebron took a pass down to the 4-yard line late against the Steelers and they spotted it at the 10.

  3. I wouldn’t expect a complete moronic & false remark from anyone but aaron. Equal out? If ref calls against gb equaled out, they’d lose games into year 2070.

  4. I have just one question:

    Is it legal for a defensive lineman to hook-grip the front edge of the offensive linemen’s shoulder pads, and use that tight grip to jerk his head back and forth and lead his head and shoulders in whatever direction he chooses?

    Because that’s what he was doing. I’d just like to know if he’s allowed to.

  5. “…there’s been no officiating justice for the Lions,”(and many other teams as well).

    When will the game of football get its justice? Only when Alberto Riveron is removed from his post.

    Think Roger Goodell! Think!

  6. Rodgers was likely thinking of the “Fail Mary,” the infamous replacement refs’ call that cost the Packers a game against the Seahawks. Perhaps those bad calls last night were justice for the Packers for the Fail Mary.

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    I hate how the replacement refs keep getting put down. That play was reviewed before the final call was made. The replacement refs did not have final say in that play, the replay official did.

    Also, despite all the media solidarity with the refs, you would have a hard time convincing anyone that the regular refs are any better.

  7. By the way, I agree with Rodgers unexpected penalties balance out. I’d add that they oftentimes balance out during each game, but not always.

  8. AR is referencing one call. That call was debatable. The Lions got screwed on multiple calls last night, that were clearly wrong. The Packers got multiple calls against the Cowboys. The Packers got multiple calls against the Vikings. So how much “evening out” does he think the Packers are supposed to get? Why can’t the nfl jst call the games fairly.

  9. FACTS: Detroit got more good calls than we did, that’s why we started to message and text the NFL at halftime. Those bad calls stopped and the game was reffed pretty even in the 2nd half. Also, the rest of the league just WISHES they were as good as us.

  10. Clearly there were some horrible calls last night (and all season).

    “But there’s been no officiating justice for the Lions.”
    So the Lions have never been on the side of benefiting from bad calls? Come on…
    How many cheap shots did Suh get away with while on the Lions?

  11. I’ve never seen a more propped up phony star quarterback in all my life. On third downs he’ll stand there, look around and complain why there wasn’t a flag of some sort. He expects it.

  12. I hope the NFL officials are on Rodgers Christmas card list, the last 2 weeks the refs have been giving out a lot of gifts to the Packers…what a joke these NFL refs are.

  13. Hard to beat BOTH the REFS & the Packers…..
    Lions were robbed of a victory last night without a doubt!!!

  14. I think I have a new replacement to weatherperson as to a career where you can be glaringly wrong multiple times and keep your job

  15. Or phantom roughing call on Clay Matthews last year that gifted Vikings a tie. That game was sealed up if not for that terrible flag (ball was picked off).

  16. He’s right.

    Some years, Brady gets all the calls.

    Other years, Brady gets all the calls.

    So overall, it’s evenly on his side.

  17. Says the biggest crier (after every play that doesn’t go their way) in the league. Never seen a bigger whiner. A fitting leader. WWF alive and well in Lambo, as usual. Detroit vs everyone.

  18. I find it funny that he has to go back to reference the replacement ref incident to think of a bad call on GB. That was about 10 years ago. Meanwhile, each week the non favorites of the NFL have to overcome bias.

  19. This is similar to the unwritten laws of dry cleaning from Curb Your Enthusiasm and Seinfeld.

  20. I was rooting for the Pack to win, but I have to admit the Lions got hosed by the refs. The NFL has to do something about taking the game out of the hands of the refs and give it back to the players. Refs are too micro managed and trigger happy with calls. Makes it hard to watch games with all the flags.

  21. Oh please! No team has been the recipient of more bad calls than AR and the Packers. Their line hold on every play, play clock runs out all the time with no delay of game penalties, and everytime the opposing D stops them on 3ed down….here comes a flag to give them 1st & 10.

  22. Gee thanks Erin Im sure the Lions will be happy with the officials handing the packers the game five years down the road.

  23. No Roger, certain teams get favored, especially at home, in no particular order: Colts, Chiefs, Broncos, Packers, Seahawks, Cowboys, Giants, Steelers, Dolphins, both on the field and off. The Fail Mary was at Seahawks and dodgy calls between favored teams goes with homefield

  24. With the calls, opportunities, and drooling, that everyone has given Rodgers and the Pack over his career, he should have four championships by now…Maybe the Networks will give it to him this year…

  25. All teams experience bad calls, it’s the nature of the beast. It’s time for more cameras to determine who actually won the games. The technology is available.

  26. Booger was outraged. Everybody not a Packers fan is just shaking their head. 4 terrible calls directly lead to Packers stealing a win. Only justice would be losing a game in a bad call next game against the Lions.

  27. Equal out? How’s that? Rodgers and company probably get the most calls out of any team in the nfl! The more Rodgers complains the more calls he gets…this guy is the pre Madonna of the nfl! Surprised he hasn’t complained about how much beer to drink!

  28. Packers fans that think the Lions got more favorable calls are delusional. It’s FACT, that GB *ALWAYS* gets favorable treatment, and almost never gets called for offensive holding. I finally saw a holding call, on a run play yet, and nearly fainted.

  29. datwell600 says:
    October 15, 2019 at 8:47 am
    All teams experience bad calls, it’s the nature of the beast. It’s time for more cameras to determine who actually won the games. The technology is available.
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    You never watch Lions games do you? Shut up!

  30. The personal foul on Walker? Non call PI? Hands to the face 2x? And on ALL at critical times, 3rd downs and or wiping out key plays. Packers got whipped and still get a W.

  31. Of all the fanbases in the NFL, why is it that Viking fans are the ones doing the bulk of the complaining? Lions got jobbed, you’d think their fans would be the ones in here bellyaching….but nope…it’s the same fans that have blamed the refs after every Packer win since PFT added comments. Yet when it came time to put up or shut up, your team lost. Or was that the refs fault too?

  32. If ref calls against gb equaled out, they’d lose games into year 2070.
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    And there you have it….the typical PFT Viking fan mentality. Packers can never win without the refs and thus it’s a built in excuse (which they used frequently in week 2) any time the Packers win. It’s quite telling that you guys are so much more angry than fans of the team on the receiving end of those calls.

    I also noticed on Sunday two different Viking drives extended by phantom def holding calls, but no outrage then of course.

  33. I’m sure calls do even out over the course of a season but too many of those calls are game changers. Many calls are not game changers

  34. ronnyw9 says:
    October 15, 2019 at 9:10 am
    I’m sure calls do even out over the course of a season but too many of those calls are game changers. Many calls are not game changers

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    Not to the extent of giving games away

  35. I am loving watching Packer fans try to defend those calls as good calls. Showing their true self to all the other fans bases you are upset with refs for stealing the game they were watching.

  36. Everybody not a Packers fan is just shaking their head
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    Plenty of Packer fans shaking their heads too. The last hands to the face was ridiculous and I doubt any Packer fan wanted to win in that way. Detroit should have had the ball back at 1:40 or so, no time outs and down by a point.

  37. Sharon sure was complaining about the non call when Barr snapped his collarbone. Funny he didn’t mention that…

  38. You’d think that Packer fans would be embarrassed to get a win gifted to them like last night. Instead, some are gloating and crying that its merely jealousy from other fan bases to criticize how they got the W. Even smug Aaron said after the game “it didn’t feel like a win”. When karma visits GB its gonna be ugly.

  39. Ironic thing about all the crying Viking fans is that the Packer win helped them. Lions win and Vikes are in third…but with the Packers going over they’re in second. You’re welcome lol

  40. Nate Burleson put it best this morning when he said the bad calls have always been there.

    Don’t kick 5 field goals and then complain about the refs.

    Put it away next time.

  41. mikethevike11 says:
    October 15, 2019 at 7:25 am
    Yeah maybe for everyone else. The calls always go the Packers way in green bay.
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    Always? Someone missed the refs screwing GB over in the Philly game a couple of weeks ago. It happens. The NFL is a mess. We either can stop watching or stop whining. If you keep watching, quit the whining.

  42. qckappa says:
    October 15, 2019 at 7:37 am
    AR is referencing one call. That call was debatable. The Lions got screwed on multiple calls last night, that were clearly wrong. The Packers got multiple calls against the Cowboys. The Packers got multiple calls against the Vikings. So how much “evening out” does he think the Packers are supposed to get? Why can’t the nfl jst call the games fairly.
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    Debatable? You kidding me? This is exactly why it’s impossible to argue about officiating. Everyone is completely blinded by their own biases. There was nothing remotely debatable at all about the fail mary call. That mess caused the NFL to get off it’s butt and get rid of the replacement refs. Debatable! lol

  43. Seems to equal out for a few teams only meaning some teams get all the calls as others have losing seasons

  44. Still crying about the fail mary from almost a decade ago? Let me guess, Rice still fumbled too?
    It does equal out eventually, like the playoffs when Rodgers implodes again.

    If it weren’t for the Smith guys and the refs who knows how bad that team would be.

  45. The replacement refs were 2012. If you are still looking for make up calls from 7 years ago you have a very unhealthy grip on the past.

  46. You’d think that Packer fans would be embarrassed to get a win gifted to them like last night.
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    Problem is you Viking fans say that after every win. And when you eeked out a tie last year because of a bogus call on CM3 were any of you embarrassed? Should we write a letter to the league denouncing the victory and ask to have our record changed? Gimme a break. Officiating has been terrible all year…this is nothing new.

  47. Considering the strangely opportunistic conditions, the Lions should’ve kicked butt. The Packer D did very well, catching up under those same painted-into-a-corner conditions. The better team won. You might say it was unbalanced in the Packers’ favor (I wouldn’t,) but ultimately, the better team won.

    I’ll take that everyday and twice on Monday!

  48. I also love seeing fans from every NFL fan base come in here to say now bad those calls really were
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    It’s been obvious for ages that you’re a bit delusional but if you’re seeing fans from 31 other fanbases posting here it’s worse than we thought.

  49. packerssuckcheese says:

    October 15, 2019 at 8:52 am

    Equal out? How’s that? Rodgers and company probably get the most calls out of any team in the nfl! The more Rodgers complains the more calls he gets…this guy is the pre Madonna of the nfl! Surprised he hasn’t complained about how much beer to drink!

    Rodgers is the before Madonna? Haha what?
    Where was the outrage for the Seahawks getting the BS call?

  50. Frazier28/7 says:
    October 15, 2019 at 9:40 am
    Still crying about the fail mary from almost a decade ago? Let me guess, Rice still fumbled too?
    It does equal out eventually, like the playoffs when Rodgers implodes again.

    If it weren’t for the Smith guys and the refs who knows how bad that team would be.

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    Hell, There are Vikings fans that are still whining about the Drew Pearson push off during the initial Hail Mary play from 1975! 44 damn years ago. It’s what fans do. Refs have been sucking for decades. There is no conspiracy. They’re just bad. Again, If there’s some league wide conspiracy for the Packers, it’s failing miserably. Heck, Just two weeks ago the Packers were screwed against Philly at home on the non call Defensive PI at the end of the game. It happens. That’s life in the NFL. We either accept it or quit watching.

  51. Sure just seems funny they always seem to benefit the packers, patriots at the most critical time. Makes you wonder is it the league or the refs .

  52. Equal out? The more Rodgers opens his mouth the more I realize how dumb he really is because as I’ve always said that kind of thinking takes the mentality of an IDIOT!

    How does it equal out if the Lions miss the Playoffs by one game or worse yet the Packers win the division over the Lions by one game, that’ll always be tainted and won’t ever equal out! The Lions will have missed the Playoffs because of bad calls and there is no making up for that. Kind of like the no-call against the Saints in the NFCCG, there’s not a call in the world that will equal out missing the SB for the Saints!

  53. The Lions have the worst luck. I remember the Thanksgiving game verse Houston where the receiver was clearly down but the refs let the play continue and a TD ensued. Detroit challenged the play only to learn that you can’t challenge a play in the last two minute, it must be initiated by the league.

    The penalty for challenging a play in the last two minutes (prior to this play) … was that the play couldn’t be reviewed and the call stood.

    Shameful.

  54. marshall420pm says:
    October 15, 2019 at 10:21 am
    Sure just seems funny they always seem to benefit the packers, patriots at the most critical time. Makes you wonder is it the league or the refs .
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    Just curious, do you think Brady’s 4 game suspension and the Pats loss of a 1st round draft pick benefited the Pats too? I’m not a Pats fan but all this talk about Brady getting favortism is kind of puzzling to me, I think it has more to do with the opposing teams fans crying when they lose!

  55. Amidst all the whining, complaining and conspiracies no one seems to have done much research. The screenshot of Flowers hand all up in Bahk’s helmet (the first foul) is all over FB. A quick search would benefit some of you. So now all this hoopla is over one bad hands to the face call. Lmao.

  56. So the next time that the officials make a costly bad call on the Packers, someone can tell Aaron “Don’t worry…three or four years from now,this will all even out.” Like Jerry Seinfeld,Rodgers is “Even Steven.”

  57. stellarperformance says:
    October 15, 2019 at 7:29 am

    I have just one question:

    Is it legal for a defensive lineman to hook-grip the front edge of the offensive linemen’s shoulder pads, and use that tight grip to jerk his head back and forth and lead his head and shoulders in whatever direction he chooses?

    Because that’s what he was doing. I’d just like to know if he’s allowed to.
    ____________

    That has been legal for the first 100 years of NFL football, but ever since the fourth quarter last night it isn’t legal.

  58. I can’t believe no one is talking about the phantom facemask call against the Lions four years ago that gave Rodgers an untimed down to throw the Hail Mary to Richard Rodgers. When the Lions are on defense against the Packers, shoulder pad = facemask.

  59. Easy, Vikings fans…last year’s roughing penalty against Clay Matthews cost the Packers the game against you… It evens out…

  60. Yet no mention of the 1 touchdown the lions were rewarded that was absolutely NOT a TD! Take that TD away, and the Packers still win. Now to be fair, the calls were awful and should never have happened on that final drive, but then again, the Lions should be down 7 points at the end instead of getting a TD nicely gift wrapped earlier in the game! Many TV angles show the ball never broke the plane, NOT A TD!

  61. “Easy, Vikings fans…last year’s roughing penalty against Clay Matthews cost the Packers the game against you”

    I’m guessing you didn’t remember the exact same bad call go against Kendricks that extended a drive that led to a touchdown as well…in the exact same game. Not to mention the refs taking Diggs’ TD off the board this year because of a phantom offensive pass interference (which wasn’t even called on the field).

    The funny thing about Packer fans is they don’t realize they operate on a different officiating standard (along with teams like the Steelers and Patriots) than most teams in the league.

    For every 1 bad call that you seem to remember that goes against you, there are 5 or 6 six that go in your favor.

  62. Been a Lions fan for 30 years. It’s always been us vs the world. However play to win, and 5 field goals isn’t.
    Going into the game Matty P should of already known they weren’t going to get any calls.

  63. I’m a Packers fan. The two calls against Flowers were bad and certainly made it a lot easier for the Packers to win at a minimum. But the idea that there is some NFL/referee conspiracy in favor of the Packers is ridiculous.

    Setting aside how difficult it would be to keep such a conspiracy under wraps, let’s just look at the last five full seasons. As for net count of penalties (i.e. for and against) the Packers rank 15th best in the NFL. As for net penalty yardage the Packers rank 13th best in the NFL. So the Packers are slightly above average over the last five full seasons.

    Full disclosure, for 2019 the Packers rank 7th and 2nd respectively. But guess what? Over the same six game span our six opponents average rank 18th and 22nd respectively. In other words, we’ve played a bunch of teams that have committed a lot of penalties relative to all of their opponents this year.

    Every team in the league gets hurt by some horrible calls and benefits from some horrible calls. There is some bad officiating going on this year for sure and it certainly showed up last night. So Lions fans have a right to be pissed today but please spare me the conspiracy theories about how the officials are out to help Rodgers and the Packers. It’s complete BS.

  64. All-American Voltron says:
    October 15, 2019 at 10:05 am
    The “fail mary” was with strike refs, since the NFL referees are well-trained to call penalties to HELP the Packers, as once again demonstrated last night.
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    The next week in the Packers vs. Saints game the refs ruled Darren Sproles down by contact on a kickoff return, even though replay clearly showed that he fumbled and the Packers recovered. That almost cost GB that game.

  65. What would you expect from the biggest whiner in the league. Any sports fan can tell you the Packers have gotten 2 or 3 games a year from the officiating for decades. Its so bad that when a close, but accurate, call goes against them, ESPN calls it controversial for years. There was even a call against the Bears decades ago that killed instant replay for a while because the officials were literally taking games already decided and changing the winner to GB. Shut up Rogers, go snuggle with your boyfriend

  66. Yes it does, Aaron! There’s a reason the Lions haven’t won anything in years! It’s obviously the officiating!

  67. As a Lions fan i can say this Titus young TD staffords 6th of the game and no challenge Ref got it wrong, face mask penalty that was not a face mack leading to an extra shot for hail Mary pass refs screwed us there too, this is just the latest injustice. Add the Calvin Johnson rule thats not even enforced anymore, the batted ball in Seattle the list goes on and on. My guess is there will be a new rule next year to try and stop the injustices but it wont help. Next year the Lions will once again be screwed

  68. vavikingfan says:
    October 15, 2019 at 2:54 pm
    The Packers are ahead until 2070.
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    Well we do know for a fact the Vikings have never lost a game on their own. It’s always the officials fault. They’d be 53 time Super Bowl champs if it wasn’t the for the officials.

  69. Michael David Smith we know he wasn’t referring to the hail mary he got to throw against the Lions. You know the one the NFL loves to show again and again, the one that only happened because… you guessed it, phantom face mask call in favor of Rodgers. I hope the calls really do even out over the years for him, he’s in for a helluva time.

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