Rams acquire Jalen Ramsey without a new deal

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On Tuesday, Jalen Ramsey got what he wanted. Eventually, he’ll get what he wants.

By trading for the best cornerback in football without signing him to a new deal, the Rams have given Ramsey considerable leverage. They’ve given up two first-round picks and a fourth-round pick for a player who is signed through 2020 only. He eventually will command a record deal for cornerbacks, jamming the bar much higher than the current new-money maximum of $15.1 million per year.

When the Texans did the same thing for tackle Laremy Tunsil, they were labeled as bumbling and inept. In fairness, those who criticized the Texans for not extending Tunsil when trading for him (me included) should also criticize the Rams for not getting a new contract with Ramsey before finalizing the trade.

Ramsey was desperate to get out of Jacksonville. To make that happen, who knows what he would have committed to over the next five years? Instead, the Rams have painted themselves into a corner with the cornerback, and it’s eventually going to cost a lot to get them out of it.

It’s unclear whether the Rams were planning this move before Aqib Talib suffered fractured ribs, or whether it became a priority after Talib became injured. It’s a move that bolsters a pass defense that has struggled, but that does nothing to improve an offense that was held to 78 passing yards without the threat of Todd Gurley on the field against the 49ers.

Will Ramsey make a difference for a 3-3 team that is stuck in third place in its division and that will have a hard time grabbing one of the wild-card berths in the NFC? It remains to be seen. But the Rams have issues that go far beyond Tuesday’s swap of Peters for Ramsey, and one of those issues will when will they pay Ramsey, and how much?

115 responses to “Rams acquire Jalen Ramsey without a new deal

  1. He will want somewhere in the neighborhood of $18-20 million a year would be my guess. 20% raise over the highest paycheck now. Ask for $20 and take $18 mil? Just tossing spit wads. Rams have $38 mil in cap spacefor next year as of today according to overthecap.com. Unless he’s a 10 game rental.

  2. Don’t know what Snead has against using 1st round picks in the draft. 2016 was the last time they used one and it’ll be 2022 before they have another, that is if he hasn’t traded it before then.

  3. Rams are just digging themselves a bigger whole. They have spent money all over and now they don’t have 1st round picks for the next two years. The way they are playing this pick could be between 15 to 20 where you can get a good CB on a rookie deal. Now you will have to pay out another top contract. This won’t be a good move long term. It isn’t good for the cap and with missing 2 first round picks it won’t be good for depth.

  4. They lost 2 starting corners and gained 1. I don’t see this moving the needle. What they need to do is fix the offense and i don’t know if it’s fixable.

    The Rams offense can’t survive without a stellar offensive line, Goff is no Mahomes or Watson. The running game isn’t stalled just because of Gurley. It’s because those huge holes aren’t there any more.

    Ramsey is a great player but the Rams aren’t going back to the playoffs and they still have a fair amount of players on rookie deals who need to get paid, that includes Ramsey.

  5. Rams are in trouble.

    They needed to makes some moves.

    Will it pan out? Who knows.

    LB check! (Matthews out)
    OL check! (Noteboom out)
    CB check! (Peters gone, Talib IR)

    Did what they needed to do.

    For this year anyway.

  6. How will Jalen help Jared handle pressure?
    Or the Rams’ O-line?
    Or Gurley’s knee?

    Kroenke knows he needs loads of big ticket names to coerce the hohum L.A. market.

  7. This is a fantastic move for the Rams. A wiser team I have not seen in years. Jalen Ramsey is a great team player, never quits and is a great candidate for a team friendly deal!

    Go Niners

  8. That’s a very steep price to play without having a deal in place. This is something 2015 Jerry would’ve done with our Cowboys. Thankfully his son occasionally locks his dad in the closet and makes more sound decisions. Occasionally.

  9. What a difference the storyline would be if Zuerlein had made a routine 44-yard FG to beat the Seahawks, in Seattle, twelve days ago. They would’ve been 4-1 heading into the SF game. (In which they got soundly beaten, granted.) But instead, they’re a toxic team getting joyrided in comment sections by fans whose teams (Seattle, SF) have been destroyed by the Rams for the past several years. Okay, fine, and good luck in the playoffs, guys, as the Rams sit at home on their couches. Oh wait, we’re only one-third of the way through the season.

  10. Dream Team 2.0. Very top heavy with big holes on both sides of the ball, and minimum depth. More players are going to have to go to get JR the contract he wants, and the Rams just gave away the cheapest way to gain top level players.

  11. Wow.Could be a disaster for both teams. Giving up two first round picks hurts. Rams can become the Jaguars if they pay Ramsey too much. They already have Aaron Donald, Jared Goff, Todd Gurley, et. all. Hard to pay a lot of those guys.

  12. On the surface this move reeks of desperation. They could always franchise him but then you get the same act as Jacksonville did.
    This does not however take care of the other problems they have: stopping the run and protecting the quarterback. One more injury and the Jags could be having a number 15 pick.

  13. This is hilarious, so Ramsey wanted out of the Jags because in his mind the Jags are not competitive, yet he goes to the Rams a team that is literally in free fall. The Jags, on the other hand, seem to be trending upward.

  14. They have sold their future for a malcontent, that will continue to be a malcontent because the whole thing is about $$. JR hasn’t gotten what he really wanted. Sure he wanted traded, but he obviously wants a lot more money. How are the Rams going to pay all those guys? Just my opinion, but there isn’t a player playing today, with the possible exception of a proven franchise QB, that’s worth giving up 2 first rounders.

  15. He showed up to TC with a brinks truck and bags with the money symbol printed on them. Not to mention, Rams are in deep with no leverage and two less 1st round draft picks…his agent is going to bend Snead over.

  16. Maybe teams are getting gun shy of sign and trade picks deals until they get a test drive. If the player shines they’re out more money on a new contract. If he busts out then they are only out the picks and save the cash. In a normal business that may sound crazy but this the NFL….

  17. “By trading for the best cornerback in football without signing him to a new deal, the Rams have given Ramsey considerable leverage“

    Wait, I thought they traded for Jalen Ramsey, not Stephon Gilmore

  18. So trade away a pro bowl corner because you dont want to deal with his upcoming cap hit, but give away 2 first round picks and bring in a guy who is going to command the biggest contract for corners….do I have that correct? I like Mcvay but it seems like he is having a hard time coping with not being the best team in the NFC, let alone his own division.

  19. If he is to play immediately, I have a question.

    Which is more disrespectful-
    Tom Coughlin coming down on Ramsey for acting the fool on the sideline or Ramsey sitting out with a fake injury?

    I cannot recall a professional athlete faking an injury. I will be disappointed if no Jaguar players mention this fake injury as being disrespectful to them, the fans and the game of football.

  20. If the Rams can manage to juggle the Goff, Donald, Cooks, Gurley, contracts AND pay Ramsey before he holds out while not fielding the rest of the roster with the cast of “The Replacements” they will have changed the future of cap management forever.

  21. Geez, OK! Hey Fans who do not care any way. The Crybabies cry get their way. Anyone see a pattern? Where is the NFL leadership Rog? In all this, the Ref”s get a raise! Total Madness!

  22. I believe they are doing this because they are in LA. Ever since two teams showed up in one city, one stadium, the race to sell tickets was on. Still is for the Rams I guess. Big names sell tickets. So do wins. Two years from now, Rams will look different.

  23. I don’t understand how Rams will keep everyone happy $$ – they have too many super stars and not enough supporting cast. Synder did the same thing with Washington and it destroyed that team.

  24. Conflicted Hawk fan here. Not happy about JR in LA but two firsts and a fourth?

    Seems like LA thinks the window was closing. Not too worried about 5 years from now.

  25. Hard to figure LA’s interest in the trade, the timing of the trade, the assets given up in the trade, and making the trade without a deal with Ramsey in place.

    Unless this is the first of a number of moves they are planning . . .

  26. Every team in the NFL is flawed. I’m not a Rams fan but I like the move for the team. They’re 3-3, have a great shot at a Wildcard berth and once they’re in, anything can happen.

    I know I’d feel better about the Chiefs if they had acquired Ramsey, even at a cost of two first rounders and a 4th rounder, because even if it ultimately doesn’t work out, the Rams made tried to make their team better this season and next season

    In addition to Franchising him in 2021 and beyond, they could also do as they just did with Marcus Peters: Trade Ramsey to recoup draft picks. Unless Ramsey is injured to the point where he can’t return to his former self, this seems like a Win-Win for the Rams.

  27. The Rams fans think they scored here, high fiving and just so excited.

    The reality is that they mortgaged the future for a 1.5 season rental just to draw fans. The Rams are looking for PSLs…

    Look at the shiny toy!

  28. Simply an insane trade by the Rams. Giving up all that draft capital and dooming yourself to cap hell for one corner? What is Bruce Allen the GM in LA?

  29. They have him for 2 years and can extend him this coming off season. Seems like a good deal. They also are but a win or two away from the wildcard with still 10 games to play. The move makes sense and makes them a better team. NFC West just got tougher.

  30. Everyone’s favorite new coach and new dynasty, The Rams. Now it sounds like they hardly have a national pundit on their side. How quick folks fall out of love with their Pre-season super bowl picks (Eagles/Rams) Don’t be too quick to write these teams off. It’s a long season.

  31. They got rid of Marcus Peters earlier in the day. Peters has a megabucks contract but he is underperforming, so they have the cap space now to extend Ramsey. Since they have him through 2020, they can make sure he is actually the best CB in football before extening him to a multi-year, megabuck deal. They may even be able to franchise tag him for a year or two.

  32. Interesting considering the rams are a mess. Ramsy makes any team better but they are trading away thier future for the current year when they are almost the worst team in the NFC west

  33. It’s all about the LA Marketing Plan.
    Star Power right?

    Yours truly,

    R.G.
    345 Park Ave
    Marketing Division

  34. Well, someone needs to step up and demonstrate the importance that draft picks are everything in this salary cap driven league.
    Wow L.A., way to destroy your cap and your future for a problem player.

  35. When we evaluate the trade, we have to factor in the huge contract it will cost the Rams to keep him. So what did the Rams give up to get him? All those draft picks plus a huge contract.
    He’s a great player. An All-Pro. But is he worth all those draft picks plus that huge contract?

  36. If it is true that they don’t have a deal in place, the team will overpay for Ramsey. Time, Information and Power are the 3 elements of a negotiation. If there is no deal in place, the Rams just gave away the store. They have to sign him after giving so much to get him, so the GM’s job is on the line as well as the image of the team. Ramsey may need a second Brinks truck if the Rams were truly this foolish.

  37. What they gave up to obtain him two first round picks and a fourth they will pay him what he wants and do what he wants them to do.

  38. Sending this guy out of town sends a poor message to these entitled punks. This guy should have been fined and forced to help this team win. I’m sick and tired of these athletes thinking they are anything other than employees.

  39. That’s gonna be a lot of money in the defensive side of the ball with him and Aaron Donald. Gurley’s days are numbered with this acquisition. Goff makes big money. Whitworth will retire at the end of the year. Don’t forget Cooks gets big money and Kupp will be coming up soon for a contract.

    I really liked the move to get rid of Peters he just doesn’t listen and plays his way all the time. You can see a personality like his doesn’t take long to wear on a coaching staff. They gave up a 2/4 to get him and here we are not even a year and a half later and they give him away for a bag of open peanuts. I’m glad they didn’t have to pay him but then they go and give up 2 1’s and a 4 to Ramsey? I’m sorry but after The shenanigans he pulled with the jags is he really worth all of this?

  40. Best corner in football? Jalen Ramsey is a strange way of spelling Stephon Gilmore, Florio.

    Might want to look at the pats – redskins game tape … Scarry Terry ( A rookie) was making Gilmore look silly , Gilmore benefits from a strong pass rush as you can tell from watching that game.

  41. Dear Rams,

    You have four players (Goff, Donald, Gurley and Cooks) who account for nearly 100 Million cap charges in 2020. Three of those guys require an OL to justify their contracts – and so naturally you mortgaged the future for a CB.

    Thanks!
    Seahawks & Niners

  42. computojon says:
    October 15, 2019 at 9:18 pm
    What a difference the storyline would be if Zuerlein had made a routine 44-yard FG to beat the Seahawks, in Seattle, twelve days ago. They would’ve been 4-1 heading into the SF game. (In which they got soundly beaten, granted.) But instead, they’re a toxic team getting joyrided in comment sections by fans whose teams (Seattle, SF) have been destroyed by the Rams for the past several years. Okay, fine, and good luck in the playoffs, guys, as the Rams sit at home on their couches. Oh wait, we’re only one-third of the way through the season.
    ————————–
    Hate the SeaHawks, but they have gone 1-1 vs LA in consecutive years.

    2 years ago, SF swept the Rams, last year LA swept SF.

    Rams are a joke.

  43. chastain00 says:
    October 16, 2019 at 8:06 am
    Best corner in football? Jalen Ramsey is a strange way of spelling Stephon Gilmore, Florio.

    Might want to look at the pats – redskins game tape … Scarry Terry ( A rookie) was making Gilmore look silly , Gilmore benefits from a strong pass rush as you can tell from watching that game.
    ———————

    Ha! Every stat info place rates Gilmore as #1.

  44. Why would anyone give up more than 2 first round picks for a player that quit on his team 3 games into the season?

    I equate this to a cheating spouse…as soon as he’s unhappy in L.A., he’ll quit on them just like he did Jacksonville.

  45. Maybe best corner not to be playing the last several weeks because of a “back” problem. I think Jacksonville wins this one. Every Ram player should develop a back problem to get mo money.

  46. The Rams decided last year to go for broke with their personnel moves. They effectively gave themselves a 2 year window to win the SB. They lost last year and things have gone south this year. Next year, they simply won’t have the money…

  47. chastain00 says:
    October 16, 2019 at 8:06 am
    Best corner in football? Jalen Ramsey is a strange way of spelling Stephon Gilmore, Florio.

    Might want to look at the pats – redskins game tape … Scarry Terry ( A rookie) was making Gilmore look silly , Gilmore benefits from a strong pass rush as you can tell from watching that game.

    ———

    Terry had 3 catches for 50 yards and no TDs….. Wow that is really scary….

  48. Terry had 3 catches for 50 yards and no TDs….. Wow that is really scary….

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    I SAID look at the film … Scary Terry beat him repeatedly. Has nothing to do with hall of fame QB Case Keenum not being able to get him the ball because the All Pro Offensive line had a bad day lol … stop looking at stats and watch the game , Terry was open REPEATEDLY but just twist it your own way to make Gilmore look better that he really … sorry I struck a nerve of you patsy fans

  49. Jalen probably would not have made a difference if had played during the last two Jaguars losses. The Jags made out like a bandit on this deal. A headache gone and they don’t have to worry about him sitting out again because they can’t get a mega deal signed like he wants. I just wish the Jags would have received an immediate player to help instead of a 4th rounder in 2 yrs.

  50. Ha! Every stat info place rates Gilmore as #1.

    Yeah beacause he has the advantage of a very strong pass rush like I said … the Patriots players that leave are usually not very good on other teams , because of system much ? Give me Ramsey if I’m counting on a one on one lock down corner … minus the baggage of course

  51. Wait a minute. I thought the genius of Sean McVay was what turned the Rams into a SB team. How quickly the narrative changes. Apparently you need good players too. lol.

  52. No first round picks in next two years. Ramsey still needs a deal, gave Donald a huge deal, gave Gurley a huge deal, which now looks bad, and gave Goff a huge deal which is starting to look bad. Need draft picks, especially first rounders, to find cheap talent and that’s reduced.

  53. Since McVay’s offense has been rendered useless and he so far has shown no ability to change/adjust to better fit the teams talent maybe they should shop him back to Washington.

  54. The Rams have mortgaged the future for winning now. If they win a Superbowl this year or next year then OK…it’s acceptable. If they don’t, then they screwed up. I will not fault them for being aggressive in going for it. But I will fault them for being not managing their draft capital more prudently.

  55. This move, and the new LB, immediately shores up the struggling defense. If they can defend better against underneath passes, it will all be better.

    If they get past these next two very winnable games, they will be 5-3. Matthews comes back thereafter.

    They are also probably not done acquiring help this season on the offensive line. If the line improves in either pass or run blocking, they adjust the offense accirdingly. They commit to developing Henderson.

    I am sure the Rams have contingency plans to loosen up future cap space. The megadeals get restructured, a player or two ages out, etc. They get value picks in the 3rd and 4th rounds.

    No worries.

  56. Ramsey and his agent has the Rams over a barrel. They better do everything possible to make his experience out there the best it can possibly be. Two #1’s and a 4th round pick. Imagine if Jalen said” No, I don’t want to re-sign here”. That would just rip apart that franchise for years after giving up that draft capital.

  57. Glad Howie didn’t overpay for this guy, who has the potential to be real trouble. How many mega-deals can the Rams actually have on their roster? Good luck signing him in the offseason.

  58. that will hurt them in more ways than it will help.ex; losing 2 consecutive 1st rounders and a 4th rounder will slow down their draft quality quite a lot. Then when they have to pay him 20 + million in 2021, that will affect their ability to keep other players.

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