Patriots’ defense has allowed four touchdowns, scored four touchdowns

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The Patriots’ defense has been otherworldly this season, and no stat describes that better than this: Halfway through the season, New England’s defense has scored as many touchdowns as it has allowed.

New England has four defensive touchdowns this season, with Jamie Collins and Stephon Gilmore each having a pick-six this season, and Dont'a Hightower and Kyle Van Noy each recovering a fumble for a touchdown. And New England has only allowed four touchdowns (two passing, two running) all season.

For a defense to score as many touchdowns as it allows in any one game is excellent. To do it over half a season is unthinkable.

The 49ers’ defense has allowed seven touchdowns and scored two, for a solid differential of just five more touchdowns allowed than scored. The 49ers are the only defense other than the Patriots that isn’t allowing at least one more touchdown than it scores per game.

It’s hard to imagine that the Patriots could keep this up for another eight weeks, but if they even come close, they’re going to be remembered as one of the greatest defenses in NFL history.

58 responses to “Patriots’ defense has allowed four touchdowns, scored four touchdowns

  1. mralf2014 says:
    October 28, 2019 at 9:57 am
    Easy to have a great defenceman when you have an extremely soft schedule rigged by the NFL
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    How is the schedule rigged? Do you know how the NFL schedule works? I admit the Pats have played some pretty bad teams but their next 5 games are against contenders. If they Pats win a majority of those games will you still cry about a rigged schedule? I would suggest learning how the NFL schedule is created before saying it is rigged. That is just lazy on your part. Be better.

  2. Patriots defense showed a few areas of concern in recent weeks in the run game. As a Pats fan I can’t wait to see how they do in Baltimore next week and then later at Philly and Houston and home against Dallas.

  3. It’s because we pick near the very end of the draft EVERY year. Parity means the bad teams are supposed to have better players and the good teams have an easier schedule. Some people want bad teams to have first pick of the players and the easiest schedule as well.

  4. We need to put the soft schedule narrative to rest. Have they played some poor opponents early on? Yes, based on pure luck of the draw. But make no mistake about it, these are still real NFL teams (mostly) and do to do what they’ve done is impressive, no matter who’ve they’ve played.

    That being said, I’m picking them to lose a thriller in Baltimore next week

  5. I like how people say the schedule is rigged, given there is a set formula, but they also play three teams coming off their buy week:

    Week 8: Cleveland
    Week 9: Baltimore
    Week 11: Philadelphia

    Which seems unusually high.

    Seems to me the NFL could probably set the schedule so each team only plays a team off their buy once in a season.

  6. Chubb has the ball knocked out by his own teammate on the Patriots defensive TD…and that’s supposed to be “otherworldly”…then they get an interception…thrown by the guy who leads the league in interceptions…it’s not like the Browns have a very good offense, or coach for that matter…it’s been kind of a theme for the Patriots defense so far this season…playing bottom of the NFL offenses and doing exactly what good defenses should do against bad opponents. I’m not knocking them for who they play, the schedule is what it is…it’s just really short-sighted to heap all this praise on what they are doing without pointing out that it is coming against the teams that have not been performing well against other opponents either. Patriots fans should be a little less sensitive and just accept that they are having a great season, but most people don’t care until they do it against good teams.

  7. Probably 2/3 of the teams this year are lousy to terrible. All the good teams are playing soft schedules because there are so few good teams this season.

    And the mediocre or poor defenses a lot of those teams have are allowing the same teams the Pats crush to score against them. That’s what great defenses do, crush poor teams.

    If you’re upset there are so many lousy teams this year, direct that anger at the crappy owners putting those bad products on the field across the league, not the Pats for pounding them.

  8. rogergoodellmyhero says:
    October 28, 2019 at 10:12 am
    They sure played a lot of elite QBs so far this season……
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    What is up Colts fan? That is your excuse now. Then when they beat the elite QBs you will say the refs are in the Pats pocket. When you get tired of that narrative you will start blabbing about cheating. With you and dozens others out on these boards excuses will be made as to why the Pats are just good. Does it ever get tiring keeping all your excuses in check?

  9. What are people going to do when they keep allowing 13 points or less?

    LOL

    The next goal-post moved narrative will be “they stopped allowing 10 points or less, so they’re not that good.”

    Quadruple LOL

  10. mralf2014 says:
    October 28, 2019 at 9:57 am
    Easy to have a great defenceman when you have an extremely soft schedule rigged by the NFL

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    Rigged? How is it rigged. The schedule format is well known. 6 games against your Divisional opponents. 4 games against an AFC Division and 4 games against an NFC Division based on a rotating schedule. The remaining 2 games come against the conference opponents that finished in the same spot in the Division you did.

  11. popover7 says:
    October 28, 2019 at 10:05 am
    Patriots defense showed a few areas of concern in recent weeks in the run game. As a Pats fan I can’t wait to see how they do in Baltimore next week and then later at Philly and Houston and home against Dallas.

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    They’ll do very, very well. BB was hiding run game defense schemes for (Lamar) Jackson yesterday.

    Just watch.

    You’ll some exotic run stopping front designed to force Jackson to throw or try to run up the middle.

    They’ll bracket Marquise Brown and take away the deep ball a la Tyreek Hill with Jon Jones and Harmon over the top.

  12. These college football fans crying about scheduling is fun. NFL schedules are set in stone for all but 2 games. Jimmy Johnson once said about blowing teams out, I can’t tell my guys to not play hard just because the other team is bad. The Patriots can’t be blamed for the dumpster fires they have gone up against. If you have a problem with how bad the AFC East has been in recent years take it up with the guys showing us new levels of ineptitude, not the guys showing us quality football play year in and year out.

  13. It is a fact that they’ve played the easiest schedule in the NFL. Ben Roethlisberger, Ryan Fitzpatrick/Josh Rosen, Luke Falk, Josh Allen/Matt Barkley, Colt McCoy, Daniel Jones and Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield are the QBs they’ve faced. Why put that to rest? Why can’t we say they haven’t played anyone significant? Nick Chubb had over 6 yards per carry and 131 yards. That’s not an all time great defense. You play defense like that against the niners and they’ll chew you up and spit you out.

  14. The Pats have 8 wins by themselves.

    The AFC North has 9 wins as a division. The AFC East plays the AFC North. The NFL East has 11 wins as a division. The AFC East plays the NFC East. How is that BB’s problem. Win more games and our schedule won’t look so easy.

    Are you wanting him to coach your team too? That’s the dumbest excuse I have ever read.

  15. downtownswinga says:
    October 28, 2019 at 10:21 am

    Chubb has the ball knocked out by his own teammate on the Patriots defensive TD
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    That’s true, but only because Van Noy blew up the blocker and forced him back into the ball carrier.

  16. TribeOfOne says:
    October 28, 2019 at 10:31 am
    It is a fact that they’ve played the easiest schedule in the NFL. Ben Roethlisberger, Ryan Fitzpatrick/Josh Rosen, Luke Falk, Josh Allen/Matt Barkley, Colt McCoy, Daniel Jones and Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield are the QBs they’ve faced. Why put that to rest? Why can’t we say they haven’t played anyone significant? Nick Chubb had over 6 yards per carry and 131 yards. That’s not an all time great defense. You play defense like that against the niners and they’ll chew you up and spit you out.

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    The Niners? When was the last time they were relevant? And I would be careful what you ask for…..nobody knows Jimmy’s weaknesses better than BB. He will take away the run and force Jimmy to win the game by throwing in the best secondary in the NFL

  17. rogergoodellmyhero says:
    October 28, 2019 at 10:12 am
    They sure played a lot of elite QBs so far this season

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    😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

  18. Patriots started a stretch playing 3 straight games, 2 on the road vs teams coming off their bye and 2 weeks to prepare for them.

    BuT TeHy hAvE ThE EeasIESt ScHEdulE EvUR!1!!!111

  19. I am a long time patriot fan. for most of the time before Parcells then into BB the Patriots were like Miami/Jets/Buffalo now.

    They were the constant losers and for the longest time Miami dominated the division then Buffalo in the Marv Levy /Jim Kelly era.

    The difference now is that this is the era o free agency/salary cap where teaks can’t really hang on to players because of money.

    althouth Brady take a below market contract the Patriots have let many good players walk because of money.

    It is Not BB’s fault that the other 3 teams in their divison are always putrid.

  20. Patriots have played the softer schedule. 49ers held the Rams to 7 and the Rams have scored 60 more points than any team NE has played. In fact the best offense the Patriots have beat is the Giants. Not the Patriots fault but lets see the whole picture.

  21. rogergoodellmyhero says:
    October 28, 2019 at 10:12 am
    They sure played a lot of elite QBs so far this season……

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    Well, they played a hall of famer (Big Ben) and a couple of high draft pick QB’s (Jones, Darnold, Mayfield and Allen).

  22. wgraham921 says:
    October 28, 2019 at 11:01 am
    Patriots have played the softer schedule. 49ers held the Rams to 7 and the Rams have scored 60 more points than any team NE has played. In fact the best offense the Patriots have beat is the Giants. Not the Patriots fault but lets see the whole picture.
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    Um…Pats D held the rams to 3 points in the superbowl last year.

  23. bob3339 says:
    October 28, 2019 at 11:16 am
    Well, they played a hall of famer (Big Ben) and a couple of high draft pick QB’s (Jones, Darnold, Mayfield and Allen).
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    Big Ben sucks and he’s done. Being a high draft QB doesn’t mean you’re good. Patriots homers like you should know that.

  24. They needed a change of pace after last year facing Mahomes twice, Rivers, and Goff. They’re better THIS year but did hold Mahomes to 6 points and then 0 points in the first halfs of those 2 games and held Rivers to 7 in the first half of that game and held Goff to 3 points all game.

    The modus operandi is confuse the opposing QB for a half while Brady runs up a lead.

    The concern this year is this: is the O good enough to give the team enough of a cushion for the second half? I think the formula will continue to work against the Chiefs but what about the Eagles and Ravens?

    If the Patriots get through the next two weeks with the undefeated streak still intact (this is when I think it will end), I will seriously begin to think the team could go undefeated.

  25. endtimesparty says:
    October 28, 2019 at 11:29 am
    They needed a change of pace after last year facing Mahomes twice, Rivers, and Goff. They’re better THIS year but did hold Mahomes to 6 points and then 0 points in the first halfs of those 2 games and held Rivers to 7 in the first half of that game and held Goff to 3 points all game.
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    Exactly.

    Go back to the playoffs last year. 3 points allowed total in 3 of 4 half’s of championship football. Nuff said.

  26. Well, before everyone gets all excited, look at the temas they have beaten–PIT, MIA, NYJ, BUF, WAS, NYG, NYJ, CLE. Buffalo has five wins. The other teams have a total of six. It’s not like they have played anyone yet, except for Buffalo. The second half of their schedule is considerably tougher but still contains two more bye weeks (CIN and MIA).

  27. The concern this year is this: is the O good enough to give the team enough of a cushion for the second half? I think the formula will continue to work against the Chiefs but what about the Eagles and Ravens?

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    The Ravens are as overrated as any other team in this league. Their division stinks and what they’ve done against division competition wasn’t all that. I expect a big Patriots win.

    Eagles are a different story. They are legit and that game will be a treat to watch.

  28. I find it ironic a Colts fan is complaining about the Pats having a soft schedule when the Colts play in a dome making EVERY game they play @ home SOFT!!
    Remember when the Colts were caught piping in fake crowd noise?

  29. As it is now, we’re looking at a 49rs vs NE SBLIV with the 49rs Defense having the edge over the Patriots Offense.

    Patriots win IF they can fix their OLine issues, WR issues and establish a run game.

  30. It is a fact that they’ve played the easiest schedule in the NFL. Ben Roethlisberger, Ryan Fitzpatrick/Josh Rosen, Luke Falk, Josh Allen/Matt Barkley, Colt McCoy, Daniel Jones and Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield are the QBs they’ve faced. Why put that to rest? Why can’t we say they haven’t played anyone significant? Nick Chubb had over 6 yards per carry and 131 yards. That’s not an all time great defense. You play defense like that against the niners and they’ll chew you up and spit you out.

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    Okay, whats really funny about this is your selective facts….The 49ers would chew them up? Because they’ve played superior competition? Lets see, what QB’s have the 49ers faced? Winston, Dalton, Mason Rudolph, Mayfield, Goff, Keenum, and Kyle Allen….the teams they have played have a combined record of 16-35.

  31. Its absolutely shocking how many “football fans” still have no idea how the schedule is set. There is nothing random or selective about it. Six game in your division, 4 game with another division in your conference, 4 game against a division not in your conference, two game in Conference based on how you finished last season i.e. 1st place plays 1st place. Just to get ahead of the AFC east sucks narrative: Brady’s winning % against each division

    Division Win – Loss Win Percentage
    AFC South 41 – 9 .820
    NFC South 17 – 5 .773
    AFC North 32 – 10 .762
    AFC East 83 – 29 .741
    NFC West 14 – 5 .737
    NFC North 16 – 6 .727
    NFC East 14 – 6 .700
    AFC West 31 – 16 .660

    It is amazing how many Donkeys in this forum dont have at least the most basic understanding of how the NFL works.

  32. The Niners? When was the last time they were relevant? And I would be careful what you ask for…..nobody knows Jimmy’s weaknesses better than BB. He will take away the run and force Jimmy to win the game by throwing in the best secondary in the NFL
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    Do you watch football? When is the last time they were relevant is your response? As if the past has anything to do with the present. Your team has played NOBODY. Nick Chubb gashed your defense for 118. Why wasn’t he shut down? Why didn’t BB take the run away? The Niners run the ball better than the Browns and their starting RT, LT and FB are all currently injured. They’ll chew up the Patriots on the ground. Anyone with an ounce of honesty can recognize this. The Saints would wreck the Patriots too. Most unimpressive least intimidating 8-0 team in history no question about it.

  33. Do you watch football? When is the last time they were relevant is your response? As if the past has anything to do with the present. Your team has played NOBODY. Nick Chubb gashed your defense for 118. Why wasn’t he shut down?

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    McCaffrey averaged 8.4 YPC against the Niners yesterday. With Kyle Allen at QB. Why didnt the Niners shut him down?

  34. TribeOfOne says:
    October 28, 2019 at 11:55 am
    The Niners? When was the last time they were relevant? And I would be careful what you ask for…..nobody knows Jimmy’s weaknesses better than BB. He will take away the run and force Jimmy to win the game by throwing in the best secondary in the NFL
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    Do you watch football? When is the last time they were relevant is your response? As if the past has anything to do with the present. Your team has played NOBODY. Nick Chubb gashed your defense for 118. Why wasn’t he shut down? Why didn’t BB take the run away? The Niners run the ball better than the Browns and their starting RT, LT and FB are all currently injured. They’ll chew up the Patriots on the ground. Anyone with an ounce of honesty can recognize this. The Saints would wreck the Patriots too. Most unimpressive least intimidating 8-0 team in history no question about it.

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    Is this the same “gashing” Leveon Bell did when BB wanted BEll to run, so Brown and Martis Bryant, etc, wouldn’t beat them and NE allowed like 16 points in the process?

    Oh no! Those hurtful “yards allowed” and that argument.

    HINT: When you have a big lead, it’s DUMB to keep running, so if you induce a team TO RUN with powerful passing options, your taking BB’s cheese.

    You’re welcome.

    LOL

    He’s only been doing this for 20 years, dumbo.

  35. solo681 says:
    October 28, 2019 at 11:48 am
    As it is now, we’re looking at a 49rs vs NE SBLIV with the 49rs Defense having the edge over the Patriots Offense.

    Patriots win IF they can fix their OLine issues, WR issues and establish a run game.

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    Umm, we’ve heard this for the 3rd year in a row regarding the offense. Talk to Brady/McDaniels why it takes them so long to figure out.

    That’s the issue. On paper, it’s a good WR group with talent and the best RB group in the league.

    Again, talk to Brady/McDaniels the guys who make the gameplan and call the plays.

    It’s been pretty poor so far this year. I see Brady with all day at times, bobbing up and down in the pocket.

    Last year, the excuse was “Hogan can’t get separation” which was only partially true.

    Proper running of the offense sets up separation and time in the pocket. Stop with the annoying Brady apologist crap.

    He needs to be better.

  36. wgraham921 says:
    October 28, 2019 at 11:01 am

    Patriots have played the softer schedule. 49ers held the Rams to 7 and the Rams have scored 60 more points than any team NE has played. In fact the best offense the Patriots have beat is the Giants. Not the Patriots fault but lets see the whole picture.

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    All i read and hear is about who the Saints, 49ers, and Packers haven beaten. Guess what? What if I were to tell you that none of those three teams have faced a top 5 defense yet? Don’t even mention the Bears. They aren’t good. Even the Raiders scored 24 points on them, of all teams. Their secondary is overrated. The Patriots, 49ers, and Bills all have the best defenses in the league, listed in that order. Those three NFC teams have not played any of these top 3 defenses, and the 49ers can’t play themselves. The Niners won’t be challenged until they play the Saints in New Orleans. At least the Patriots have played the Bills, and the game was on the road.

  37. The Pats D is good, and a lot of their success so far is about bad football being played against them… I mean real bad football. Baltimore is a different animal and they are not going to beat themselves. Coach Harbaugh has a long history of coming in prepared. I expect a real rock fight. Baltimore has a real chance to to give the Pats their first loss.

  38. Wow! Lots of chatter consider the question asked was can Jackson solve the Pats defense.
    No!
    That answer takes into account that Jackson is awesome, still, No!

  39. 14-42… that is the combined record of their opponents… a meager 250%.

    Let’s revisit this topic in 5 weeks after they play the legitimate NFL teams on their schedule.

  40. gisellichek says:
    October 28, 2019 at 1:03 pm
    The Pats D is good, and a lot of their success so far is about bad football being played against them… I mean real bad football. Baltimore is a different animal and they are not going to beat themselves. Coach Harbaugh has a long history of coming in prepared. I expect a real rock fight. Baltimore has a real chance to to give the Pats their first loss.

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    The 2012 Ravens might. This team won’t.

    The real test for the champs will be in Philly in 2 weeks.

  41. Patriots thwarted the Tebow Broncos – a remarkably similar team to this year’s Ravens with a dual QB/RB run threat, and with a much better defense and receivers. So this is nothing new to Bill.

    The Ravens defense is ok but that’s about it. I’ll be shocked if the Patriots offense even with a banged up OL doesn’t score plenty of points on them.

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