Jon Gruden’s going to keep making pass interference challenges

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The NFL has made it very clear that the bar for successful challenges of pass interference calls and non-calls is very high and that’s led some coaches to stop tossing the red flag in hopes of getting things to go their way.

Raiders head coach Jon Gruden is not one of those coaches. Gruden made his fourth pass interference challenge of the season on Sunday — he thought wide receiver Zay Jones was impeded by Lions linebacker Jahlani Tavai — and he lost for the fourth time.

The Raiders employ former NFL referee Gerry Austin to help determine when to challenge and Gruden said on Monday that he’s going to continue listening to a guy “that wore the white hat in the Super Bowl three times” despite the continued failures.

“We’re challenging things that we think are plays that are going to be overturned and we’re going to trust the process,” Gruden said, via the Las Vegas Review-Journal. “So far, I’ve been given the Heisman. I’ve been stiff-armed. I’m 0-for-27, I think. But when I listen to people tell me they’re going to overturn a call because it’s the wrong call, I believe in the process. And I still believe in it.”

Gruden is 0-for-6 overall on challenges and said Monday that he hates “the whole instant replay formula,” but apparently not enough to continue trying to use it to his advantage.

29 responses to “Jon Gruden’s going to keep making pass interference challenges

  1. Some obvious errors are being made during games by refereeing crews, but the league made a season long dousey with the change allowing a challenge but instituting a policy of a significantly higher threshold to overturn a call. Either allow calls to be overturned or remove the challenge ability.

  2. NFL needs to scrap the PI challenge. It’s been a total failure. I keep hearing the argument of “clear and obvious”. I tell you what. If that PI against Engram last night was not “clear and obvious” then nothing is.

  3. Generally can’t stand Gruden but what he’s doing here (if he follows through) will benefit the entire league; either they are committed to actual reviews in which case eventually some will be overturned, or the whole thing is a sham (as we all expect) and a season of challenges with zero getting overturned would make that absurdity impossible to hide from.

  4. I hope the people who whined after the Saints game are happy with what they got. I don’t even think that call would be overturned with this standard.

  5. Pete Carroll is doing the same thing, you have officials refusing to overturn calls and HC’s insisting on reviews.

    This is Roger Goodell’s NFL, let’s give him another $50 million a year, or whatever he makes.

  6. The truth is the NFL realizes that they jumped the gun on PI challenges due to New Orleans complaints so they simply decided that they aren’t going to overturn any call on the field unless its so egregious that it cant be ignored. Most coaches have figured this out already. My guess is the PI rule quietly goes away this offseason.

  7. arealisticpackerfan says:
    November 5, 2019 at 7:43 am
    The Raiders problem is that they hired a former ref to advise them on the rules. They should have hired someone who knows the rules.

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    Sure, because the current NFL refs certainly know what the hell they are doing out there.

  8. I love how they missed the PI against Engram last night, doubled down on the OBVIOUS miss upon replay, and then called a much lower version of PI against the Giants a couple players later.

    And then missed the late hit on Whitten a play or two later. What an embarrassing display these refs put on for a national audience.

  9. Can’t teach an old dog new tricks. He never learns. I enjoy watching Gruden waste his timeouts.

  10. If he was doing this to make a point, I’d say more power to him. But he’s not. He actually thinks he might win these challenges and doesn’t realize that he’s sacrificing timeouts for no reason.

  11. arealisticpackerfan says:
    November 5, 2019 at 7:43 am
    The Raiders problem is that they hired a former ref to advise them on the rules. They should have hired someone who knows the rules.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    So much hidden humor in this statement.

  12. the nfl doesn’t want the challenge replay, so just make it impossible to win. easy peasey.

  13. At this point it’s a waste of a time out. The REFS in the NFL STINK! You can hardly watch NFL games these days because of the constant flags. They keep adding new rules every year which makes it hard on NFL players trying to play the game they learned as a kid. Nobody including Goodell seems to care.. FLAG…FLAG…FLAG Welcome to today’s NFL!

  14. The Raiders employ former NFL referee Gerry Austin to help determine when to challenge and Gruden said on Monday that he’s going to continue listening to a guy “that wore the white hat in the Super Bowl three times” despite the continued failures.

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    The NFL continues to make a mockery of itself in consistently going against what a 26 year NFL veteran ref is seeing.

  15. Why even review any of it. They will only overturn blatant plays? What happened to get it all correct or don’t do it at all? Stupid rule.

  16. “the nfl doesn’t want the challenge replay, so just make it impossible to win. easy peasey.”
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    If the NFL did not want PI calls challenged it would never have implemented the replay rule.

  17. He is not wasting a TO when he does it in first half. I thought he was wrong Sun, but other 3 were PI by rule so best way to get it scrapped is to keep pointing out hypocrosy of what was called in preseason and what Riveron said standard would be, and how that was privately changed. The down side is being hesitant to challenge in second half when you lose first challenge. He should definitely have challenged spot vs Hou in 3rd Q.would have been 4th down on Texans side of field. Ended up getting a TD. The contemptuous 20 yard toss of the flag is also fairly entertaining

  18. joetoronto says:
    November 5, 2019 at 9:29 am
    Pete Carroll is doing the same thing, you have officials refusing to overturn calls and HC’s insisting on reviews.
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    Does it really matter when you have a QB fumbling and crying every other game away………..

  19. While I think it might hurt his team in the long run by burning timeouts knowing there’s a slim chance of PI being overturned but it also puts the spotlight back on the NFL and refs. They need hold PI in the field of play and replay to the same criteria. Gruden is doing a good deed for all teams by using his challenges as examples while other teams shy away just because the NFL is placing different standards when they shouldn’t be.

  20. Why does the call on the field matter? If you get a chance to review a play in slow motion with multiple camera angles, just make the right call based on the evidence. Forget the call on the field.

  21. packers291 says:
    November 5, 2019 at 10:50 am
    Why does the call on the field matter? If you get a chance to review a play in slow motion with multiple camera angles, just make the right call based on the evidence. Forget the call on the field.
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    That just makes too much sense. It would be easy to referee the entire game like that, and it wouldn’t slow down the game one minute. There are 32 owners and they all seem ok with the way things are going. If we stopped watching games, they’d fix it in a minute.

  22. SO is it Gruden’s fault that the refs continue to make bad calls and then get backed by Riveron because he WON’T go against his refs on the field?

    The NFL has a very serious problem the last couple of years with horrible/missed calls(its gotten far worse this season) and they refuse to do anything about it, but the fact is its going to cost them a lot of fans if it continues! I’m already to the point that I only watch an average of 2 games a week where I used to watch every game that was televised(6/wk), I’m really losing interest in the NFL mainly due to the horriblle officiating and low quality product they’re putting on the field(there’s a lot more bad teams this season than I can ever remember and the NFL tries to pass it off as parity) so I’m watching a whole lot more college football where they have a lot better refs and the kids play their hearts out because they’re trying to get into the NFL, the college players seem to put out more effort than a lot of NFL players that are getting paid!

  23. charliecharger says:
    November 5, 2019 at 11:00 am

    If we stopped watching games, they’d fix it in a minute.
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    That’s already happening, just look at all the empty seats around the NFL at a lot of games and some of those teams are in contention not to mention its just mid-season, there’s no way this many teams should have this many empty seats this early in the season, but they do!

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