Out of challenges, Bruce Arians threw a flag on a bad call to prove a point

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In the fourth quarter of Sunday’s Cardinals-Buccaneers play, the Bucs got pressure on Cardinals quarterback Kyler Murray and took him down just as he threw the ball. The officials ruled that Murray got the ball away for an incomplete pass. The officials were wrong.

Replays clearly showed that Murray’s knee was down before he got rid of the ball, and it should have been a sack. Buccaneers coach Bruce Arians couldn’t challenge, however, because he had already used up his challenges. And yet Arians threw his challenge flag anyway.

Arians said today that he did it on purpose, knowing he would cost his team a timeout, because he wanted the officials to know how mad he was they blew the call.

“There’s a point in the game there’s only certain ways to get a point across. It could have cost us,” Arians said. “He was obviously on his knee. It was a timeout. I wanted to make a statement.”

Throwing away a timeout late in a close game seems like an odd way to make a statement, but Arians said he’s seen other coaches do it too, and he felt it was warranted at the time. He’s certainly not the only one driven mad by NFL officials this season.

44 responses to “Out of challenges, Bruce Arians threw a flag on a bad call to prove a point

  1. Maybe don’t blow your other challenges? But in all seriousness this goes back to the argument of why not implement college football’s replay system? Just make everything reviewable and if there’s an obviously blown call have the league office buzz it in.

  2. The officiating really has been awful this season. It has been bad for a while now, but seems to get progressively worse. The NFL enables them by fining anyone who criticizes them; there needs to be some level of accountability.

  3. Let the teams fine the NFL every time there is a mistake and watch the officiating suddenly improve.

  4. Patriots123456…..that comment is probably the best comment ive read on here…..theres only 100 nfl officials that are deemed good enough for the nfl….i would hate to see the candidates that dont make it if we all see how bad the ones are that do make it…..

  5. Except for the packer fans that are blinded by the refs handing them 4 outta their 8 wins this yr

  6. I don’t watch college football, but I don’t really seem to see a lot of articles complaining about their officiating. Maybe the NFL could learn something from them.

  7. HC’s around the league have had it with the bad/partisan officiating and the NFL has to do something about ASAP, if not sooner.

  8. The challenge limit rule is badly flawed. Still, it exposes all these head coaches as the ignorant lunk heads they are when the challenge early in games plays that have limited upside outcomes and often are not even winnable. Look at Gruden–0-7 and challenged a play early last Thursday that was not winnable as the ball was still sitting on the field when he non-hurridly threw the red flag.

    Prove a point? Shame on the coach for putting his own non-team needs ahead of those of the team. As the case with Gruden, he was off the hook when team won, but the selfish decision to throw the flag could easily have been the difference between winning and losing.

  9. Bad officiating is an intentional part of the game. It keeps it interesting, unpredictable, and gives book-makers the edge. The game is largely rigged.

    “for entertainment purposes only”

  10. Did Arians also complain about the obvious pass interference call that wasn’t called on the last play that helped his team win? This guy thinks he’s gods gift to football when in reality he’s just another run of the mill coach that complains about everything. Go ahead and retire again but please keep him out of the booth. He sucked badly there

  11. bringbacklovie says:
    November 11, 2019 at 1:55 pm
    Patriots123456…..that comment is probably the best comment ive read on here…..theres only 100 nfl officials that are deemed good enough for the nfl….i would hate to see the candidates that dont make it if we all see how bad the ones are that do make it…..

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    I doubt that. I’m sure there’s plenty of candidates who are more than qualified but never got the chance. It’s probably more about “who you know” than “what you know”. And what, I’m guessing you think just because there is only one commissioner position, Goodell is also the most qualified that’s why he got it?

  12. He wanted them to know he was a child who can through temper tantrums. Bruce note to self they already knew that. How is he still in the league.

  13. Besides the loss of time out, There should be a delay of game penalty for throwing a challenge flag when not allowed.

  14. patriots123456 says:
    November 11, 2019 at 1:48 pm
    Let the teams fine the NFL every time there is a mistake and watch the officiating suddenly improve.

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    There are usually many fouls on EVERY play. Ariens was OUT of challenges, which is his fault.

    If every play can be challenged, prepare for 5-hour games…and the end of the NFL

  15. Tin foil hat time. I’ve been seeing the Raiders get head-scratching penalties all of my life. But now, more than ever, I’m seeing it happen more in other games. Is the NFL being rigged?

  16. Officiating was so bad both ways. They even called DPI on a fake punt when DPI on fake punts is impossible. The rule prevents the punter from just heaving the ball towards the gunners to get a call.

    He caught the ball anyway so the penalty was “declined”.

  17. @crookedcreek1893 says:
    November 11, 2019 at 1:40 pm
    Maybe don’t blow your other challenges? But in all seriousness this goes back to the argument of why not implement college football’s replay system? Just make everything reviewable and if there’s an obviously blown call have the league office buzz it in.
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    Maybe instead of referring to it as “college football replay system”, give a fancy, NFL-sounding type name but operate it like the “college system”.

  18. Yet another brilliant coaching move by Arians. Knowingly wasting a time out is almost as stupid as his genius idea to purposely get a 5yd penalty because “the kick is easier from back there” How long until the powers in Tampa say bye bye to this fool?

  19. It should cost a time out and also be a 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty for challenging when you’re out of challenges.

  20. Seems like they should flag unsportsmanlike if a coach throws a challenge when the team is out of them.

  21. The only reason he was out of challenges was that he made a bad decision to challenge a pass interference call which was clearly going to be upheld. Don’t buy into he is smarter than everyone garbage. His dumb decision eliminated the opportunity to get that clearly wrong call overturned.

  22. I don’t blame Arian 1 bit. Officiating is out of control and costing teams ball games……thats the worst thing that can ever happen. Someone has to be a leader in gathering momentum to put an end to the abundance of terrible officiating. Roger Goodell and the owners don’t care.

  23. Maybe if we added a booth official as part of each crew to correct blatant errors and get rid of the lunacy that is the challenge system, we’d be better off. Why should getting it right be a strategic decision? Why should there be a limit on the number of times you can correct a bad on-field call? The officials are human. It’s a fast game. Help them out, for Pete’s sake.

  24. It sucks when calls are blown. However, the calls are made or not made in real time. We have the luxury of HDTV and multiple angles. It happens, even to the best officials. Get over it.

  25. The problem isn’t that officiating is getting worse. There have always been bad/missed calls, you just didn’t get a chance to see them. Every year they add more cameras to the field and higher definition TVs at home. The problem is they haven’t fully utilized this technology. They should have an official in a booth at every game that can review obvious calls.

  26. Arians throwing the challenge flag when he was out of challenges might have helped his team. Soon after it happened, the league took the rare step of initiating a review and reversing a pass interference non-call, giving Bucs first down on the 1. Makeup call?

  27. This is what I would like to see.
    I list of teams that get the bad calls and a list of teams who always seem to get the calls.

  28. I don’t know if I believe him. He tends to make boneheaded mistakes then say he did it on purpose. He said the same thing about the delay of game against the Giants saying that he felt the kicker had a better chance 5 yards back further. That was total BS which he later admitted and had Gay been 5 yards closer the kick would have been good. This marriage with Arians just feels like it’s going to end in a disaster.

  29. Challenges are stupid when we can all see at home before that next play. Why do coaches have to play this game of jeopardy when the booth can request a review? Why only the final two minutes. It’s time.

  30. Just like Aron Rodgers had his old buddies in the stripes call a roughing the passer IN the end zone, it saved the Packers a Safety AT HOME. Plus the Packers got a 15 yard penalty and first down in a tight game. No way that was roughing, defender even rolled to his side so he wouldn’t land his body weight on Rodgers!! They also neglected another delay of game call on the Packers AGAIN! I know this is the 100th Anniversary of the NFL, but it is so very obvious Green Bay is getting help from the league with calls. This WILL eventually get discovered, just too late!

  31. The entire rule of only being able to call out the refs twice per game for bad calls is ridiculous anyway when the league average of bad calls per game is double that. The new rule of challenging P.I.s is only used to make wishful thinking coaches waste their challenges.

  32. You mean like when they had a TD taken away from them against GB? From the TD replay booth and not called on the field. It isn’t supposed to be able to be done like that. Yet they did it. That’s the real suspect call of the year and if it isn’t already until real scrutiny that the NFL referee’s are compromised it certainly should be. As the NBA sadly learned with Donaghy, the refs are dirty. All his colleagues had to have known he was throwing games & said nothing. They were in on it too. Same with the NFL. Pete Morelli is a straight up cheater and snake and cost teams seasons. Bill Leavy stole a SB from the seahwaks. Those 2 should have their financial records forensically checked. If those 2 rat finks are in on it, they all are.

    I digress. Changing a TD call based on a replay from a booth where there are only 4 officials. That’s ripe for corruption and it appears that it actually happened and journalists (lol) like Florio and his gallant team should demand an explanation and investigation from the NFL. They won’t though because it will open the can of worms that calls into question the result of every single NFL game.

    It’s too big.

    Also Green Bay is getting all the calls. Game changing calls. Like vs the Lions, vs the Vikings

    N E KOCH says:
    November 11, 2019 at 5:52 pm
    Someone needs to throw a flag on all of the calls the Vikings are getting this year

  33. lollygagger8 says:
    November 11, 2019 at 2:26 pm

    These refs are so dumb he could’ve thrown an axe and never got the point across

    One of the best comments ever, thank you sir. My desk is covered in coffee now…

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