A Mason Rudolph lawsuit against Myles Garrett would likely be a waste of time and money

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In theory, Browns defensive end Myles Garrett could be prosecuted for assaulting Steelers quarterback Mason Rudolph on Thursday night, by striking Rudolph with his own helmet. In theory, Garrett also could be sued.

When contemplating a lawsuit, three factors must be considered: liability, damages, and the defendant’s ability to satisfy the judgment. Unless all three are met, pursuing a civil action makes little sense.

Here, liability is obvious; the assault is caught on tape. Garrett also has the money to afford whatever verdict would be entered against him. The challenge will be proving damages; despite the violence of the hit absorbed by Rudolph, he wasn’t injured. Thus, at most, he’d be entitled to compensation for the split-second of fear and/or emotional distress he experienced while the helmet was swinging in his way. But what would that be worth? It’s arguably not worth the time and expense of finding out.

The matter will be reviewed thoroughly,” Rudolph’s agent, Tim Younger, said on Twitter. That’s fine, but with no injury, there are no damages. With no damages, there’s no reason to file a lawsuit.

45 responses to “A Mason Rudolph lawsuit against Myles Garrett would likely be a waste of time and money

  1. Assault? Let’s overreact again. I guess that would be assault with the intent to INJURE.

    Has anybody checked idiot #1 to see if there was a lump on his head or other actual damages?

  2. If “he wasn’t injured” by a blow to the head from a weapon wielded by a 300 pound gym rat, how do you justify the long term brain damage injury settlements. Most of the players continued playing and “weren’t injured” after far less violent collisions affecting the cerebellum.

  3. What about the liability of Rudolph? I would call him a mutual combatant. He initiated the altercation then when he had the chance to withdraw he re-engaged throwing a punch before he got cracked on the head.

  4. Garrett should flat out be charged by the State for aggravated assault with a weapon. This is on par with the Todd Bertuzzi incident in hockey some years back. The fact that Rudolph wasn’t writhing on the ground with blood coming from his mouth doesn’t preclude the possible long term effects of the blow. Research shows that it isn’t even “possible” long term effect. It’s probable to certain long term effect.

  5. Since it was Rudolph that initiated the pull off of helmets, could Garrett sue Rudolph for the lost wages that came as a result of the the self defense/counter force applied by Garrett? I know the generally accepted narrative is that Garrett is the bad person here but every time I look at the replay it’s Rudolph that’s trying to rip off Garrett’s helmet first.

  6. Lol. Yea, let’s write all this “theoretically” stuff because theoretically any player can sue any player at any time for something that happens in a game where grown men play a game involving trying to push, pull, tackle each other.

  7. Since Rudolph started punching and pulling on helmets, then escalated to punching and kicking to the groin, I think the focus on the helmet swinging is getting a bit overblown.

    If someone kicked me in the nuts, I might just respond automatically, too.

    No, not a Cleveburg fan, just expressing an alternative view.

  8. No reason for a lawsuit?
    Why, there’s a chance at getting money!
    There’s the reason.
    “Oh, my neck hurts! Gimme money to ease my pain.”

  9. Pouncey committed assault 2. Felony (all Felonies are ‘must arrest’ in NY but in reality many are let go.

    Garrett arrested for assault 2. Felony (must arrest).

    RUdolph arrested for assault 3. No Misdemeanor is a must arrest unless designated ‘Family’.

    Real world detective. Me. Reired but the rules still apply. Personally, I’d have had to arrest them all because a kick to the head on the ground is a serious no-no. Had he kicked him in the ribs and everyone made nice nice, I would have let them slide.

    Pouncey’s charge might not stick, depending on the injury but that’s what I would charge him with and pas it on to the Asst District Attorney assigned, who decides what to present to the Grand Jury.

  10. oldtrix says:
    November 15, 2019 at 7:51 pm
    Since Rudolph started punching and pulling on helmets, then escalated to punching and kicking to the groin, I think the focus on the helmet swinging is getting a bit overblown.

    If someone kicked me in the nuts, I might just respond automatically, too.

    No, not a Cleveburg fan, just expressing an alternative view.

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    I completely agree. A whole lot of people across the internet are starting to see this point of view. Rudolph lost HIS cool first. Rudolph ripped at Garrett’s helmet. Rudolph charged at a man who was being held back (another no-no). He is a wannabe frat boy tough guy.

  11. I’ve done defense work for 25 years.
    Looking at the tape, it sure looks like it would result in a defense verdict.

    Myles was being attacked by the Pitt lineman, and the QB was charging at him.

    While striking a guy in the head with a helmet is bad (and admittedly potentially deadly) he’s got a very convincing case that he acted in self-defense.

    Beyond that, of course, you have damages. There is no indication that the QB felt the slighest pain. I didn’t even see him wince. Instead, he turned to the official looking for a flag.

  12. Maybe he can file for a restraining order? Then next time they play Miles couldn’t come within 10 yards of him?????

  13. I can’t wait for the day when one of the guys getting “attacked” by Illegal hands to the face or an egregious face mask foul, rips the other guys helmet off, and slams him in the head with it. After all, according to many on here it will all be ok because the other guy “started” it by pulling on the helmet. Also, I would love to see the “kick to the groin”. The only time his foot came near that area is after Garrett had him by the facemask attempting to rip the helmet off. There was no kicking motion. Rudolph is not blameless, and deserves whatever the league gives him, but there is no justification for Garrett’s response.

  14. How do we know for sure that a helmet slam to the head won’t come back to cause problems later in this man’s life? His intent was to injure. I think Mason R. needs to file an assault charge. It’s not a waste of time. Any person who can cross the line and do what he did is someone that could cross that line again in another game. React quickly and keep this man off the field.

  15. Rudolph got what he deserved. Plain and simple. I can’t believe the overreacting to this situation. The dude wasn’t even hurt. Pouncey kicking Garrett in the head had the potential to do alot more damage than the helmet crack if you want to talk about “could have”.

  16. Funny how times change, I remember Pat Sullivan heckling Raiders and end of game Matt Millen walked over to Patriots sideline and smacked him with his helmet. I don’t recall any suspension .Mason started it and Myles you keep it up and you will surpass Burfict.

  17. Getting kicked in the nuts is still no justification for an action that could have resulted in brain damage or worse. Sure it would piss me off too, but if this had happened in a bar, Garrett would have already been arrested.

  18. yetimonster says:

    November 15, 2019 at 8:17 pm

    They should give Garrett’s game checks to Mason for the duration of the suspension since a lawsuit isn’t going to happen.

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    This is the studipest thing I’ve ever heard.

  19. oldtrix says:
    November 15, 2019 at 7:51 pm
    Since Rudolph started punching and pulling on helmets, then escalated to punching and kicking to the groin, I think the focus on the helmet swinging is getting a bit overblown.

    If someone kicked me in the nuts, I might just respond automatically, too.

    No, not a Cleveburg fan, just expressing an alternative view.

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    Garrett initiated this by slamming Rudolph to the ground well after the ball was gone, ending up on top of him.

    Perhaps Rudolph’s hand was caught in Garrett’s helmet. The “kick” to the groin didn’t happen. He was using his foot to push Garrett away in self defense while Garrett was dragging Rudolph around by his helmet.

    You need to rewatch the video, because this was a really bad take you posted.

  20. WolfgangVomFramps says:
    November 15, 2019 at 8:28 pm
    I’ve done defense work for 25 years.
    Looking at the tape, it sure looks like it would result in a defense verdict.

    Myles was being attacked by the Pitt lineman, and the QB was charging at him.

    While striking a guy in the head with a helmet is bad (and admittedly potentially deadly) he’s got a very convincing case that he acted in self-defense.

    Beyond that, of course, you have damages. There is no indication that the QB felt the slighest pain. I didn’t even see him wince. Instead, he turned to the official looking for a flag.

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    I sincerely hope you’re joking.

    Myles wasn’t being attacked by DeCastro or Pouncey until after he swung the helmet. He was being pushed away from an altercation that he started. I’ll grant you Rudolph charging at him, but that’s not even close to justifying the helmet swing. Rudolph should press charges.

    I’m not a lawyer, but I have a tough time imagining the law provides a lot of leeway for the initial aggressor to claim self defense.

    Rudolph can certainly claim self defense for his “kicking” while Garrett was ripping his helmet off.

  21. The Steelers should press criminal charges against Rudolph for the way he played. The Steelers punishment was too harsh because they didn’t lose Rudolph for any games. They are stuck with hom as their starter.

  22. Garrett was in the process of doing what he’s paid to do. He had Rudolph WRAPPED UP, with his face in Rudolph’s chest, when Rudolph dumped the ball off. Garrett, NOT KNOWING that, completed his sack. As soon as Rudolph was down he grabbed the back of Garrett’s helmet and began trying to forcefully RIP it off of Garrett’s head, succeeding in getting it half way off, so that the entire back of Garrett’s head was totally exposed. Not only that, within about a second he had his foot in Garrett’s groin area, forcefully trying to push him away, because Garrett was in the process of retaliating against Rudolph’s disturbing display of unsportsmanlike conduct.
    Let’s back up. This all happened with 8 seconds left in a game in which Rudolph was personally very much responsible in the loss of a game against the lowly Browns. He threw 4 INT’s in the game. He was sacked 4 times for 43 yards. Think Rudolph mighta been PISSED at himself? Derr….
    Let’s go back one more time. The win/loss record between these 2 teams since 2000 is
    33-6-1. Anybody that knows anything about football knows that when the Schedule comes out, the very first thing that happens is the Steelers and all their fans circle both Browns games and put a “W” next to them.
    Yeah… just food for thought before Rudolph decides to sue somebody that he assaulted FIRST!

  23. I don’t remember EVER seeing a QB that was sacked RESPOND by trying to forcefully rip the helmet off the head of the guy that sacked him.

    Somebody please tell me when that has ever happened in the history of football.

    Yeah, I didn’t think so.

  24. Rudolph isnt going to press charges or file a lawsuit ! This guy us just a much to blame for inciting thw trouble ! Anything he attempt Garrett can counter ! Rudolphs best bet is to quietly take his fine and beatdownn and shut the hell up ! Steelers whole team about to get flankes with punishment ans he wants to perform ???! Sit DOWN !

  25. Why doesn’t anyone talk about Garrett trying to pounce on Mason when the game is over with 8 seconds. No need for that, no need to tackle the qb with the game being over. Garrett is too blame for the whole incident and is getting what he deserves. A season suspension.

  26. That’s rich considering that Rudolph had torqued on Garrett’s head and tried to rip his helmet off then rushed the man after he was subdued by two others and a ref. A good lawyer would promote the entire event and flip that to Garrett fearing for his safety from a man who attempted to harm him twice on the ground.

  27. However you look at it – the episode was a p*** poor way to end a one-sided game and not very classy behavior whichever team you favor.

  28. There are no actual damages. Rudolph was not hurt. Tra’Davious White had a better case against Gronk for his after the play dirty hit, but he didn’t sue. It’s a violent sport and things get out of hand. What are we doing here?

  29. Rudolph would be very silly to sue. What for, when he started it? Enough already. It’s been dealt with. Let’s move on…

  30. Cleveland fan here. What is right… Garrett was wrong in how he acted. Same with Pouncey. As several have stated above, Rudolph should have received a stronger punishment that included missing a game. The Browns defensive coordinator Wilks and head coach Kitchens should be visiting the commissioner to discuss what when on (Headhunting?) during that game before the incident.

    I have watched 30+ years worth of Browns vs. Steelers games. And I have seen the Steelers on several occasions have cheap head shot hits on defenseless Browns players or get an extra hit in immediately after a whistle. While I liked how physical the Browns played, I did not like their retaliation for years past.

  31. Any type of lawsuit against Myles Garrett would result in the immediate revocation of Mason Rudolph’s man card.

    You can’t scratch at a guy’s eye, kick him in the nuts, charge him while a bigger guy holds him, then get pummeled and follow it up with a lawsuit.

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