Freddie Kitchens grows angry at reporter’s suggestion he condones fighting

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When multiple fights broke out during joint practices between the Browns and Colts in training camp, Browns coach Freddie Kitchens said, “we’re not going to back down anybody.” Kitchens grew angry when a reporter brought those comments up to him after Thursday night’s game.

Kitchens was asked whether comments like the ones he made during the joint practices come across to players like he’s urging them to get in fights, and Kitchens didn’t appreciate the question. Kitchens said he would never tell a player to rip off an opponent’s helmet and swing it at him, as Myles Garrett did to Mason Rudolph at the end of Thursday’s game.

“I never OK fights,” Kitchens said. “Did I want them to get after their ass? Yes, I did. But that’s not fighting, that’s not after the whistle. Between the whistle, yes. I never condone fighting on the football field because that’s penalties. I don’t coach penalties. I don’t coach false starts. I don’t coach after the whistle grabbing somebody’s facemask. I don’t coach that. I don’t know what you’re talking about with Indianapolis I condone fighting. I’ve never in my life condoned a fight.”

Kitchens certainly cannot be happy with the fight that happened Thursday night, as it will likely cost him his best defensive player for the rest of the season.

83 responses to “Freddie Kitchens grows angry at reporter’s suggestion he condones fighting

  1. The Browns are wannabe tough guys. The Steelers and Ravens have mailed each other for decades but with strong respect for each other and the gane. These guys are just bush league though.

  2. Kitchens may not coach penalties, but he clearly doesn’t teach composure and discipline either.

    That said, it will come out that Garrett lost it when Rudolph would not let go of his face mask. Rudolph will be fined.

  3. Freddy has to be accountable for what happened on his watch. This team is a disaster. Only the Browns can win a game and walk off the field as losers. Steve Wilks has to be held accountable for his role in this, too. The game is over, you have to play this team again in two weeks, and you’re blitzing like that. Hey, play a soft zone, let the clock wind down, call it a day. The culture of losing goes on and on. Ridiculous.

  4. And then he grabbed his mic and bashed the reporter in the face. Repeatedly. In his mind of course. But. If he ever sees him in an alley …

  5. Owners will sell their soul for wins, but if they lose a few more games I don’t see how Kitchens survives to the end of the season.

  6. None of this would have happened had Rudolph not tried to pull off Garrett’s helmet. Steelers have been provoking teams for years (Hines Ward, James Harrison) and getting away with it. Garrett overreacted but so did Pouncey who looked like he was going to kick someone to death. Garrett apologized. Not surprisingly, Steelers accept no responsibility.

  7. mykelane says:
    November 15, 2019 at 6:04 am
    Don’t coach penalties? Does he know they currently lead the NFL?

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    Do you know penalties happen without needing to be coached on them?

  8. zac0913 says:
    November 15, 2019 at 7:39 am
    Funny how the league and sports media world is protecting the Steelers

    You wonder what’s wrong with the world. Politics.

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    That goes far beyond football my friend.

  9. I don’t coach

    He could have just left it at that since that pretty much sums up Kitchens’ tenure as the Browns Head Joke.

  10. Only Cleveland needs their coach to say, “don’t rip a guy’s helmet off and then smack him in the head with it”. Maybe that would have prevented it.

  11. The Ravens benefit from the trash heap that is the AFC North much like past years in the AFC East. Fortunately for the fans the three bottom dwelling teams have hope when they play one another to determine which team is lower then whale stuff. If you can’t stand the heat get rid of the Kitchen.

  12. I’m thoroughly confused by this.

    Didnt a guy attack Garret on the street, and Garret just let it slide a few months back.

    He doesn’t have a rep for dirty play or personal fouls like Suh.

    I seriously think he lost his mind for minute. Serious temporary insanity.

    Sit him down for the year and fine him.

    And Mason isn’t 100% innocent in this.

    I watched the game, Mason initially tried to rip Garrets helmet off 1st, but was unsuccessful.

    And I cant stand either team, just trying to be objective.

  13. It’s not about Kitchens, it’s about Myles Garrett, and Garrett should be gone for at least one year, if not a lifetime ban. certainly he could apply for reinstatement, but he should be kicked out of the league. Another thing that bothers me a lot is nobody is talking about Joe Schobert today. He should be who everyone is talking about. He had as good a game as any linebacker I’ve seen in years. He’s the reason the Browns won, and he’s the heart and soul of that defense.

  14. “TimTebowGodOfFootballKarma says:
    November 15, 2019 at 7:05 am
    None of this would have happened had Rudolph not tried to pull off Garrett’s helmet. Steelers have been provoking teams for years (Hines Ward, James Harrison) and getting away with it. Garrett overreacted but so did Pouncey who looked like he was going to kick someone to death. Garrett apologized. Not surprisingly, Steelers accept no responsibility.”

    None of it would have happened if the ref would have thrown a flag on roughing the passer. The ref should be the first one suspended.

  15. Was happy for the Browns for not only being undefeated in the AFC North but dominating games against teams they’ve normally been dormats against. Was not happy that every time that happens it buys Freddie Kitchens another week of employment when it’s pretty obvious he has 0 control over this team.

    Maybe his second best defensive player getting a possible season ban might help void the decision to keep him even if the team does squeak out a playoff push. They’re getting Marvin Lewis Bengals level bad.

  16. I’m sure Baltimore is over joyed they aren’t in the mid west like the other scrubs in their division…

  17. Is Kitchens trying to be Greg Williams 2.0? First, Ladarius Randall is ejected for a
    vicious helmet to helmet hit, then Garrett goes off?

  18. I think the folks dishing out the fines/suspensions/etc. will look at previous suspensions and player history.

    I think 5 games is the longest single incident on field transgression suspension. As bad as last night’s incident is, there were no resulting injuries reported. In the previous 5 game suspension the player opened a gash on the head of another player that required many stitches.

    Will they say this is worse than that? maybe.

    Will they suspend Pouncey for punches and a kick while the player was down? Likely

    Will they suspend the Steeler QB for ripping at the head gear of the Brown player? doubtful.

    Will they suspend the Brown player for blindsiding the Steeler QB? doubtful.

    I would go with..

    4 games for smashing opposing player with helmet

    1 game for punching and kicking opposing player

    no suspension or fine for ripping at opposing players head gear.

    no suspension or fine for blindsiding opposing player.

    Just an opinion, many will have them.

  19. It seems Cleveland (including Kitchens) believed their pre-season hype/anointing and then showed they cannot handle the pressure of having a good team and have well underachieved.

    They are equally as bad at handling success, like last night’s win, as well as failure.

    Kitchens was the OC when they actually made a run at .500 last season. So what do they do? Promote him and let go of the HC that helped turn it around in Gregg Williams.

    Williams might be a re-tread and long time assistant but didn’t he deserve a shot? Sometimes a coordinator needs to remain a coordinator for awhile

  20. This guy acts like a mafia enforcer. I think his time as a head coach should be shut down and he should be banned from the sport. All season his players have played fast and loose with the rules. Now his crop is starting to harvest a bad taste that the NFL must clear out with a scorched earth.

    Garrett should be banned for life and no other player should be punished. All Steelers’ players involved should be given a certificate for taking out the trash.

  21. It ain’t going to cost him the rest of the season the player union will get involved and appeal the suspension. At that point if I were Rudolf I would ask the players union to represent me against the league forcing them to protect players from having their helmet riped off and being hit in the head with it.

  22. What all the criticism directed at Garrett (I agree he was wrong) is that Rudolph “started” the altercation by placing his hands INSIDE Garrett’s helmet and tried to gouge his eyes out. Zoom in on his hands, look closely at his fingers.
    I played upper level football for four years. I guarantee that, if someone tried to gouge my eyes, the fight would be on. It is a lo-class individual who would try to blind someone for life because they were angry over a hit, howbeit, illegal.

    I am certain all the wannabes on here would just let someone gouge their eyes out without fighting back.

  23. Funny how the Patriots homers are all out in full force throwing their insults at Kitchens when they defended Gronk who tried to paralyze via lunging his body while using that arm brace at the back neck of Tre’davious White after a play was over.

  24. It appears that Kitchens is becoming the new Marvin Lewis! Lewis enabled Burfict and Kitchens enables Garrett!
    To those “fans” who approve of Garrett’s actions, Rudolph appeared to be trying to push Garrett off him, Steeler linemen came to the defense of their QB! So, their actions are understandable. Browns fans would be up in arms if Mayfield was hit and no Browns linemen defended him!

  25. Great job by the reporter(s) who made the assertion. It’s obvious. Cleveland has had this reputation for years. It’s the culture of the “dog pound.” Sorry, Coach. Maybe you ought to be suspended, too. Your influence is an indirect cause of this.

  26. Browns employ Kareem Hunt, they just cut Callaway, now have a major issue in Garrett. Have 3 head cases in OBJ, Baker & Landry. They have a coach with zero leadership skills, ugly uniforms and are still under .500 for the year they said they were gonna win it all.

  27. Kitchens has every right to be angry.What a ridiculous observation by your average run of the mill sports reporter. I declare,some of these media people should be barred from NFL locker rooms.

  28. OldTime Football says:
    November 15, 2019 at 8:58 am

    It appears that Kitchens is becoming the new Marvin Lewis! Lewis enabled Burfict and Kitchens enables Garrett!
    To those “fans” who approve of Garrett’s actions, Rudolph appeared to be trying to push Garrett off him, Steeler linemen came to the defense of their QB! So, their actions are understandable. Browns fans would be up in arms if Mayfield was hit and no Browns linemen defended him!
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    Finkle isn’t Einhorn here.

    -Garrett isn’t Burfict. Burfict has a rap sheet that is quite long, Garrett has never been that guy.
    -Garrett should absolutely be suspended for the rest of the season for his actions.
    -Rudolph will be fined for his actions in this as well. Face mask grabs after the play have always been personal fouls. And typically, when they lead to an altercation, they are accompanied with fines.
    -The Steeler lineman who KICKED A PLAYER ON THE GROUND IN THE HEAD should also be suspended for the rest of the season. Any head shot after the play NEEDS to be a season ending penalty in the advent of CTE. The Steeler lineman that threw punches should get 1 game, as it is the usual suspension for a punch.

    When it comes down to it, Garrett won’t be alone on the shelf. It is a huge embarrassment for the league, and all of the parents wondering if they should put their kids in football or not just had their mind made up for them.

  29. Hey, YOU were the one talking in preseason about how you didn’t mind guys fighting. That was YOU, Freddie. Don’t get upset when people use your own words against you. Doesn’t help that you lead the league in penalties, either.

  30. In this case,which is a pretty sad one,the head coach should follow his quarterback’s example by calling Garrett’s actions what they were: inexcusable. No one cares that he’s embarrassed by what he did. After Garrett’s ugly behavior last night,it should be very hard for Kitchens to stand behind his player. Rudolph just came off of a severe concussion. Garrett could have killed the guy. I hope he gets kicked out of the NFL.

  31. There were two or three hits last night that were blatantly terrible before we even got to that poop show of an ending. The Browns looked like the worst of the Bengals. And they were basically playing a JV team.

  32. guarantee that, if someone tried to gouge my eyes, the fight would be on. It is a lo-class individual who would try to blind someone for life because they were angry over a hit, howbeit, illeg

    The fight isn’t the issue. Cracking someone over the head with a helmet is the issue.
    I also believe that intent needs to be the focus. Not injury outcome. This wasn’t in the confines and scope of the game. Up until the point of no return, I’d be ok with all parties involved getting 1 game. Still am but Myles swing takes his punishment to the next level . And if I’m Rudolph, I’m challenging the nflpa if they cave in on the punishment

  33. “Kitchens has every right to be angry.What a ridiculous observation by your average run of the mill sports reporter. I declare,some of these media people should be barred from NFL locker rooms.”
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    Kitchens literally said during preseason he didn’t mind fighting. AND they lead the league in penalties. They also have to be leading the league in fines for uniform code violations from guys wearing watches, non-approved face shields, weird shoes, pants the wrong length, you name it. They couldn’t be less disciplined if they tried. It’d be a lousy reporter who DIDN’T ask him about that.

  34. willycents says:
    November 15, 2019 at 8:53 am
    What all the criticism directed at Garrett (I agree he was wrong) is that Rudolph “started” the altercation by placing his hands INSIDE Garrett’s helmet and tried to gouge his eyes out. Zoom in on his hands, look closely at his fingers.
    I played upper level football for four years. I guarantee that, if someone tried to gouge my eyes, the fight would be on. It is a lo-class individual who would try to blind someone for life because they were angry over a hit, howbeit, illegal.
    I am certain all the wannabes on here would just let someone gouge their eyes out without fighting back.

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    I saw Rudolph getting tossed around like a rag doll, Mr. I scored three touchdowns Al Bundy style. The idea that in that scrum he could get his hands inside Garrett’s helmet and gouge out his eyes is a little bit silly.

  35. Everyone is focusing on Garret and his pending suspension, but there are going to be multiple suspensions from this game. The Browns were clearly head hunting and leading with the crown of their helmets all night long. The literally took out the Steelers top two WRs and at the end of the game there was an attempt to severely injure the Steelers QB. All of the players involved in all of those incidents will be under review by the league and I would not be surprised if up to 4 Browns are suspended for some length of time and at least one Steeler, with Garrett getting the remainder of the season off.

  36. Honestly the only difference between Mason Rudolph a Myles Garrett is that Myles is a much much stronger man Mason Rudolph intent was not to protect himself but the hurt Myles. Garrett is just way stronger.

  37. Sad thing for the Browns is that there are about ten QB/Coach combos in the league that if you replaced Kitchens and Baker with they would likely win the Super Bowl.

    Imagine Wilson and Carroll with OBJ, Landry, Chubb and Hunt and maybe Njoku down the stretch?

    They would be the easy favorite.

  38. Kitchens went on and on about Marlon Humphrey and Odell Beckham earlier this year crying about Humphrey (who’s a stand up guy)retaliating against Beckham who started the skirmish and has a history of undisciplined behavior. He looks like quite the hypocrite now and obviously lacks some fundamental qualities of a good head coach. That hit the Browns corner put on the Steelers receiver earlier in the game was downright vicious and the guy was bleeding out of his ear. Garrett and that corner who was ejected just put a big target on that teams back. Geez! You would think Greg Williams was still coaching that team.

  39. The Haslems’ should be so proud of their organization. If there’s a reprobate out there, he can find a home in Cleveland.

  40. Saying they are not backing down equals he condone fighting? Did Grossi ask that question? Sounds like him.

  41. willycents says:
    November 15, 2019 at 8:53 am
    What all the criticism directed at Garrett (I agree he was wrong) is that Rudolph “started” the altercation by placing his hands INSIDE Garrett’s helmet and tried to gouge his eyes out. Zoom in on his hands, look closely at his fingers……………..
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    LMAO!!! Gouge his eyes out?? What game were you watching? I will go along with Rudolph was trying to pry his helmet off, but gouge his eyes out, no chance. SMH Not that it matters at this point, but why did Garrett touch Rudolph to begin with? He had thrown the ball, and when he threw it, he threw it right past Garrett. How did he not know he had thrown it? Bang, bang play aside, when he kept wrestling Rudolph to the ground, he knew he didn’t have the ball, or, at least, should have.

  42. That’s the first and last time you will see Dumbmarious Randall make a play like that. Usually he’s backpedaling away from any kind of contact. That tells me that Kitchens (or someone else within the Cleveland organization) was channeling their inner Buddy Ryan or Greg Williams bounty crap. What the Browns fail to understand is 1) they aren’t making the playoffs and 2) you just gave your biggest rival more motivation to work you over in a couple of weeks. Enjoy the lowlights Cleveland. It’s what your overhyped season has become!

  43. Freddie Kitchens said, “we’re not going to back down anybody.”
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    It should have been “we’re not going to back down ‘from’ anybody”, did any of these guys actually attend any college classes or did they just play football? “We’re not going to back down anybody” would be claiming no one is affraid of you, “we’re not going to back down from anybody” is saying you’re not affraid of anybody, two completely different meanings implied by leaving out one word!

  44. OH and to those that claim the Browns lead the league in penalties, so what? I remember back in the day when the Raiders led the league in penalties every single season, the difference is they had a 3 SB wins during that same time!

    BTW, its a good thing Williams isn’t still with the Browns or he’d be taking all the blame for what happen, but in reality he runs a far more discipline ship than Freddie does!
    Freddie is one of those “players coaches” that doesn’t have control of the team, the players apparently do what they want.

  45. Undisciplined is right. The penalties, the cheap shots, all of it.

    Why do players play undisciplined football?

    1. They don’t trust that “just doing THEIR job” is enough. They feel they have to do more than their job for the team win because they don’t TRUST THE TEAM and its plan and its leadership.

    Freddie Kitchens has not convinced them that if they just KNOW THEIR JOB and DO THEIR JOB the team will win.

  46. The long list of things he doesn’t coach also includes. Not coach winning football, smart football, and discipline. He is in so far over his head it’s ridiculous.

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