Reports: Mason Rudolph will be fined

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In their statement announcing suspensions for Browns defensive end Myles Garrett, Steelers center Maurkice Pouncey and Browns defensive end Larry Ogunjobi for their actions in Thursday night’s game, the NFL said there would be other discipline forthcoming through the regular process for handling fines for in-game infractions.

According to multiple reports, one of those fines will be given to Steelers quarterback Mason Rudolph.

Rudolph was hit in the face by his own helmet when Garrett ripped it off and used it as a weapon. The quarterback’s fine will presumably be for his actions leading up to that as he tried to yank Garrett’s helmet off while the two players scuffled ahead of the main fireworks.

Rudolph and any other player fined or suspended for their roles in Thursday night’s melee can appeal their penalties to the league.

146 responses to “Reports: Mason Rudolph will be fined

  1. Those pesky Steelers. They are the common denominator when you look at all the violent games over the years.

  2. Everyone involved should be suspended accordingly to send a message to the rest of the league. Whether you start it, antagonize it, or finished it, you should take a hit.

  3. The actions of Garrett were unacceptable. Mason Rudolph’s action led to the entire debacle. Trying to twist Garrett’s helmet off, kicking him in the groin and going after him needs to result in a suspension. At least one game.

  4. Should get same penalty as Garrett, and the Steelers should forfeit their first and second round. None of that would of happened if Rudolph wouldn’t of kicked Garrett. And I have zero horses in the game

  5. Should get same penalty as Garrett, and the Steelers should forfeit their first and second round. None of that would of happened if Rudolph wouldn’t of kicked Garrett. And I have zero horses in the game as a Detroit fan

  6. So if you don’t want to suspend Rudolph… fine. But then how do you suspend Ogunjobi for simply pushing a guy in the back during a fight? If Rudolph doesn’t get suspended for his actions, you can’t suspend a guy for a 2-handed push! Oh wait… it’s the NFL.

  7. Lol all the down votes I got for saying Rudolph was at fault. Guess the NFL saw what anyone logical person saw. Rudolph started it but didnt deserve to get hit in the head with a helmet. The fact he is only getting fined is the crazy part.

  8. “Rudolph was hit in the face by his own helmet”

    Huh? He was hit squarely on top of his head, not in his face.

  9. “Rudolph was hit in the face by his own helmet when Garrett ripped it off and used it as a weapon.”

    Sure looked like top of the head. Not “in the face”. He started it, he should be suspended as well.

  10. Myles Garrett suspended for the post season? Thats funny.. POST SEASON like that was going to happen. hahaha

  11. “he tried to yank Garrett’s helmet off while the two players scuffled ahead of the main fireworks.”

    The “scuffle” *was* Rudolph trying to wrench Garrett’s helmet off. The video clearly shows him bearing down with both arms on Garrett’s helmet, wrenching it dangerously. Garrett then reacted by pulling Rudolph’s helmet off, as if to say, “you want to pull helmets, here’s one for you”. Then he walked away. Then Rudolph charged after him, and Garrett hit him.

    So, two violent acts from Garrett, both preceded by two violent/aggressive instigating acts from Rudolph.

    Garrett deserves suspension, but it’s a crock if Rudolph doesn’t get one as well. Take away that helmet hit from Garrett, and what’s left would justify an ejection and suspension for Rudolph.

  12. WTF? If you watch the video before the fight starts, Mason gets tackled AFTER getting rid of the ball.
    Then he gets held to the ground.
    I hope Mason fights this and reverses his fine.
    He was not at fault.

  13. Why in the world should Mason get the same punishment that Garrett got, like some of you are suggesting? Your punishment shouldn’t change just because someone else in turn overreacted to what you did.

  14. The long standing tradition of giving the Steelers a pass has been a hallmark of officiating crews and the league office.

  15. He was NOT tryin to rip off Garrett’s helmet!
    Anyone who thinks so is a clueless IDIOT!
    He was trying to get Garrett OFF of him

    Garrett hit him late
    Garrett then laid on top of him
    And Rudolph was doing anything he could to get Garrett off
    PERIOD

  16. Yeah, Rudolph’s unhappiness about getting taken to the ground after the whistle on a meaningless play inn a game that was lost started it all. He should be kicked out of the league. Not that poor Garrett fellow.

  17. Maurkice Pouncey and Larry Ogunjobi received three -and one-game bans, respectively. Do I have this straight, Larry pushed Rudolph in the back to the ground, not cool but not really that violent. Maurkice, punches AND kicks Garrett while he is being held to the ground by another Steelers player. So, according to these suspensions, pushing is a greater crime than punching and kicking. yeah, that makes sense.

  18. Rudolph is not innocent in the matter. He tried to rip off Garrett’s helmet and then proceeded to chase him down after his linemen separated them. That’s no excuse for Garrett, but it’s also no excuse for Rudolph. Both of them should be suspended.

  19. NONE of you “experts” have ever played football, I GUARANTEE it!
    If you had, you’d know damn well Rudolph did NOT start this!

    Garrett hit him late
    Garrett laid on top of him
    Garrett ran his mouth
    Garrett wouldn’t get up

    THATS what started it!
    Rudolph was a participant, yes
    But if a 6’5” 275 LB man illegally hit you, laid on you and wouldn’t get up, you’d be mad too! Don’t kid yourself

  20. He initially tried to rip the helmet off, then used his right leg to try to kick him the groin as Miles was getting up. He was surly frustrated with his very poor play and loss, but he was the instigator of the incident. Doesn’t excuse Miles crossing the line and swinging the helmet, in any manner.

    I think a 25K fine is appropriate. I also agree with the indefinite suspension of Miles.

  21. Flag or not, Garrett’s late hit started it all. The ball was long gone. I have no problem with Rudolph fighting back or Pouncey defending him…. and I’m speaking as a Patriots fan…it’s generally not easy for me to defend the Steelers.

  22. suspending Rudolph would improve the Steelers quarterbacking. Cleveland wants him there so in 2 weeks when they meet Pittsburgh in pittsburgh they can intercept him 4 times again.

  23. Garrett deserves suspension, but it’s a crock if Rudolph doesn’t get one as well. Take away that helmet hit from Garrett, and what’s left would justify an ejection and suspension for Rudolph.

    The NFL does not suspend someone for grabbing a helmet or facemask or for getting in the face of another player ever. I guess by your thinking every facemask penalty or blow to the head or hands to the face penalty should result in an ejection and suspension? However, if Rudolph did strike Garrett with any punches (I did not notice that but some have said it) then yes he should be suspended 1 game.

  24. The NFL has officially lost their damn minds if they think that he is only worthy of a suspension while throwing the book at Garrett. Insane.

  25. I agree with Garrett’s suspension. I thought the suspension of Pouncey was a little light. I thought the suspension of Ogunjobi was a little heavy. All that said, Rudolf started the fight, and then when Garrett was being walked away escalated things a second time. He should be suspended for at least two games…if for no other reason than to prevent him from being injured in the next Cleveland game.

  26. God I hate that this site is full of Steeler’s fanboy reporters. This ‘ripped off his helmet and used it as a weapon’ crap is getting old. Mason tried to rip Mile’s helmet off first – and was wrenching his neck pretty good to get it. When that didn’t work, and Mile’s retaliated, he kicked him in the nuts. Then he continued to go after Miles while his big bodyguards held Miles back. He wasn’t using it as a weapon, his other arm was being held and Mason was grabbing at his shoulder pad and neck. If you don’t think that anyone else would do that as a natural reaction, you’re fooling yourself. Using it as a weapon infers intent to harm – I honestly don’t think that was the case. I hate that is happened and it definitely went too far….but was it as malicious and premeditated as Haynesworth’s stomp on the face? Absolutely not. As brutal as the kick to the face of the Browns kicker by AB? Or as bad as the many, many targeted hits with intent to harm that Harrison made? Everyone in that brawl deserves a suspension, I’m tired of just the person that retaliates getting fined or suspended. You sucked Mason, be a man and admit that you lost your cool too.

  27. Loving the Rudolph started it comments. The tackle was unnecessary and late. THAT is what started it. Rudolph absolutely deserved the fine but the notion he started it or deserves a suspension is mind numbingly ridiculous.

  28. It seemed to me, that Rudolph played a larger role in the melee than what just a fine represents. This was not a one-man show. Not justifying anyone’s actions, but appropriate discipline needs to be assessed to all parties responsible for it starting and escalating.

  29. dfwhawkguy says:
    November 15, 2019 at 1:54 pm
    Should be suspended… started the whole thing.

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    No, Garrett started it when he delivered a late hit, wouldn’t let go of Rudolph, and then laid on top of him and wouldn’t get up when they fell. I’d suggest watching the video.

  30. mogat1 says:
    November 15, 2019 at 2:22 pm
    Maurkice Pouncey and Larry Ogunjobi received three -and one-game bans, respectively. Do I have this straight, Larry pushed Rudolph in the back to the ground, not cool but not really that violent. Maurkice, punches AND kicks Garrett while he is being held to the ground by another Steelers player. So, according to these suspensions, pushing is a greater crime than punching and kicking. yeah, that makes sense.

    A blindside knockdown from someone who outweighs you by more than 100 pounds and with you not having your helmet on is violent. And Pouncey was suspended 2 more games than Ogunjobi. By my math, that means that punching and kicking IS a greater crime than “pushing”.

  31. As a fan of neither team it’s hilarious that Cleveland fans think mason deserves the same punishment. Garrett clearly started this by unnecessarily taking Rudolph to ground. Garrett already had a track record for being dirty. He’s worse than burfict ever was. Wonder what Cleveland fans would say if mayfield got hit in the head. Terrible fan base.

  32. chawk12thman says:
    November 15, 2019 at 2:28 pm
    He initially tried to rip the helmet off, then used his right leg to try to kick him the groin as Miles was getting up. He was surly frustrated with his very poor play and loss, but he was the instigator of the incident. Doesn’t excuse Miles crossing the line and swinging the helmet, in any manner.

    ***********************************************************************

    Again, watch the video. Late hit, then Garrett doesn’t let go of Rudolph and then falls on top of Rudolph and doesn’t get up. Especially at that point in the game, garbage move that started it. If you had someone do that to you, you’d be kicking and grabbing, too.

  33. The guy is a weasel in his getting off easy. Tried to rip off Garrett’s helmet but that backfired, then after they are separated he continues to go after him. Keep your hands to yourself let the officials throw the flags and let the league issue fines. People say Pouncey was defending his quarterback, Garrett just defended himself and Rudolph chose to escalate a situation with a heated person.

  34. LOL at the Rudolph instigated the whole thing people. Unless Garrett is blind or plays with his eyes closed, he knew Rudolph had thrown the ball (MR had to throw side arm around him), so why did he proceed to twist and wrestle him to the ground? I see zero film on Rudolph kicking Garrett in the nether region. That said, Rudolph is not entirely blameless, as he should not have grabbed Garrett’s helmet. However, it’s just plain silly to try to equate what Rudolph did to Garrett hitting him in the head with the helmet. There is absolutely no justification for that action.

  35. Ravens fan here laughing at everyone passing the buck to “Rudolph started it.” Why not go a step further and ask why Garrett needed to plant him on the turf with less than 10 seconds left in the game and his team up 2 touchdowns? What did that accomplish? Don’t give me any playing until the clock hits all zeros BS, the game was well over before that play even started.

  36. Rudolph found out that going to Cleveland is not like being at the North Pole.
    The NFL is not all candy canes, sugar cookies and hot cocoa.

  37. enoughofthatalready says:
    November 15, 2019 at 2:31 pm
    The NFL does not suspend someone for grabbing a helmet or facemask or for getting in the face of another player ever. I guess by your thinking every facemask penalty or blow to the head or hands to the face penalty should result in an ejection and suspension? However, if Rudolph did strike Garrett with any punches (I did not notice that but some have said it) then yes he should be suspended 1 game.

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    Grabbing someone’s helmet with both hands and trying to wrench it off while leaning over them, after the play is over, and kicking them in the groin, then chasing them down as they’re walking away, is very much suspension-worthy material.

  38. mmmpierogi says:
    November 15, 2019 at 2:36 pm

    Again, watch the video. Late hit, then Garrett doesn’t let go of Rudolph and then falls on top of Rudolph and doesn’t get up. Especially at that point in the game, garbage move that started it. If you had someone do that to you, you’d be kicking and grabbing, too.

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    Wrong. It was a clean wrap-up tackle just a split-second after the ball came out. Garrett turned so he landed *under* Rudolph, and specifically did not fall on top of him.

    It wasn’t a “cheap shot”, wasn’t to the head or knees, arrived at essentially the same moment the ball came out, and the going-to-the-ground part was about as gentle as you can tackle someone.

    Not saying any of that to justify Garrett hitting him with the helmet, but accuracy is important.

  39. flviking says:
    November 15, 2019 at 2:03 pm
    Thank goodness he is not getting suspended. That would be it for the steelers Super Bowl run if he were.

    ***********

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

    Oh wait, you were serious???

  40. A lot of the commentators here need to look up what the word “clear” means. Saying it is clear Rudolph started the whole thing is laughable. No kicking motion what so ever, no clear evidence he tried rip Garrett’s helmet off. If anything, the video circulating helps Rudolph’s case.

  41. Rudolf should just be fined. Yes he shouldn’t have tried to pull at Garretts helmet. But crap like that happens often and 99 times out of 100 it ends once it’s broke up. Yes I’m sure Rudolf was ticked off cause he was dirt all night and garret nailed him hence why I’m sure he started it off, but there was no kick in the groin, check the replay, I have many times and nothing obvious.
    But for Garrett to get the helmet and swing it at his head… Guy deserves what he gets. Same for the rest. I personally believe Freddie I can’t coach kitchens allows his players to do what they want.

  42. Rudolph, without his helmet,had an opportunity to walk away after being separated from Garrett by his offensive linemen. Instead, Rudolph stepped toward Garrett and clearly fanned the fires. He put himself in a situation in which getting bonked on the head with his own helmet was quite possible, a fate no one deserves. Stupidity exercised by all those involved and all, including Rudolph deserve suspensions for their respective parts in the melee in accordance with the degree of involvement and the severity of action.

  43. None of this ever would have happened if the Steelers would have just stayed with that duck-caller dude at quarterback.

  44. Thing was…he went after Garrett after everything had briefly settled…then threw his arms up the second he got swung on. Wouldn’t you keep going instead of screaming ‘mommy??’

  45. Players initiate fights every week. It’s a physical & emotional game. It happens. But for some of these people (Browns fans I assume) to use the “He Started It” excuse to justify swinging a helmet at someone’s head? You should be ashamed. I’m a fan of neither team. I watched the game. I watched the replays. Yes Rudolph should be fined. He instigated a fight. Something we see almost every week. But have you EVER in your life seen a player rip off another players helmet and swing it his head???? Shame on you if you try to justify that.

  46. Lol people saying Garrett started it because he hit him late. He didnt hit him late. He did him after he threw the ball but it was legal. The ref didn’t flag him for that. The ref doesnt even reach for his flag until after trying to break the fight up.

    In a league where they protect the QB there was no flag. The flag came because of the scuffle. It’s funny with all the video evidence some people still try to twist the story.

    He didnt deserve to get hit in the head with his helmet but he deserves everything else.

  47. So what you’re saying is the NFL is punishing the Steelers by ensuring that Mason Rudolph will be starting against against Cleveland the next time they play? That’s messed up.

  48. mooncussers says:
    November 15, 2019 at 2:29 pm
    Flag or not, Garrett’s late hit started it all. The ball was long gone. I have no problem with Rudolph fighting back or Pouncey defending him…. and I’m speaking as a Patriots fan…it’s generally not easy for me to defend the Steelers.
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    And there is supposed to be a 15 yard penalty for that, it’s within the context of the game. What Rudolph did was after the whistle. Forget him pulling the helmet off. You kick a guy in his privates and you get a fine. Somebody does a 2 hand push in the back and gets a game suspension? Hmmmmm!

  49. For all of you claiming Rudolph should be suspended, when has grabbing a face-mask EVER lead to a player being suspended?
    I’m not sure a face-mask has ever been fined.
    A face-mask is usually a penalty and no more.

    So I think a fine to Rudolph seems about right for grabbing a face mask.

  50. I didn’t record the game. Can you please put up a video of the play, from the moment the ball was snapped. I want to see the entire play. Garrett should definitely be booted for at least the rest of the season, and I don’t think I’d punish any of the Steelers, except perhaps a small fine. I just want to see what led up to the fight.

  51. Rudolph should probably be suspended as well, I think one game is appropriate. He was trying to pull off Garrett’s helmet and that did nothing to help the entire situation. I say one game is appropriate because I am assuming (dangerous, I know) that he was going to hit Garrett in the head with it if he did get his helmet off. Just a neutral observers opinion. Garret getting the rest of the season seems fair, because pulling a helmet off is one thing, clubbing a guys head with it is another level entirely.

  52. I can’t believe everyone’s all riled up because Garrett tried to put Mason’s helmet back on. Mason should stop with the coward talk and thank Garrett for taking some time off in the next one.

  53. Shocking to see some of you trying to defend Garrett in this. What is wrong with some of you. This is still a game and there were kids watching. Trying to condone Garretts actions make me hope none of the defenders are parents.

  54. Glad they have suspended Garrett, it’s about time. He has enough offenses this season.
    $54,000 for 2 different ones.
    He broke a player’s leg. He has more fines than anyone playing this season.
    He obviously has plenty of time now to think about loosing over a million, what an idiot.

  55. Returning to the fight once the OL separated the two of them should be enough to get a Rudolph a one-game suspension. He was free of Garrett and could have walked away. He chose not to.

  56. bigdaddyrockytop says:

    November 15, 2019 at 3:43 pm

    Shocking to see some of you trying to defend Garrett in this. What is wrong with some of you. This is still a game and there were kids watching. Trying to condone Garretts actions make me hope none of the defenders are parents.

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    Also holding Rudolph accountable for his role would not be defending Garrett. You an make both pay for their mistakes

  57. Rudolph started this whole thing when he tried to take Garrett’s helmet off and kick him in the groin area. The game was over. Rudolph should’ve been suspended at least one game because he started the melee.

  58. Garrett started it but Rudolph reciprocated in a way that escalated it towards a typical dirty fight, under Garrett took a swing with the helmet and brought it to the next level. Garretts late hit and pinning was a dirty play but nothing extreme, instead of asking for 15 yards rudolph fought back and tried to take Garretts helmet. Then when Rudolphs helmet was taken, he went to Garrett not the refs.

  59. I dont get why they havent benched Randolph for the duck guy, he played so much better. Randolph is awful.

  60. The person that started this was Tomlin. Run your RB, run the clock out and go home. Why were they throwing the ball from the 10 with 20 seconds left and no chance to win? Only bad things can happen.

  61. Troubling to see so many people attempting to turn the blame
    on the QB who got knocked on the head with his own helmet.
    Homerism and hate for the Steelers aside, what’s wrong
    with you guys?

  62. The NFL needs to put a stop to these players that make a tackle and then just lay on the player after the play is over, or when they do get up they want to push the other players face or chest or step over them, its totally disrespectiful and its what creates a lot of these skirmishes.

  63. Pitsburg should have taken a knee anyway game was out of reach and over! Tomlin started this whole mess or whomever called that pass play at this time in a no win game! So there..

  64. if Rudolph just gets up after a legal play, this never happens. He loses his cool and starts the fight. He is just as culpable as Garrett.

  65. Moudabo says:
    November 15, 2019 at 4:04 pm
    Troubling to see so many people attempting to turn the blame
    on the QB who got knocked on the head with his own helmet.
    Homerism and hate for the Steelers aside, what’s wrong
    with you guys?

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    The people trying to defend Garret need to have their own heads examined.

  66. “Rudolph was hit in the face by his own helmet when Garrett ripped it off and used it as a weapon.”

    This is inaccurate, He hit him on top of the head, not the face. with Rudolph’s own helmet. The truth matters.

    Go Browns!!

  67. As a Ravens fan I am thrilled with the entire outcome of this game. I was hoping there was a way that both teams could lose, and miraculously they found a way! Go Ravens!

  68. Garretts dirty for using a weapon! He’s started a pattern of dirty play like late hitting several QBs, and punching Walker from the Titans. I expect if he comes back he’s going to be under the Burfict microscope where any infraction kicks him out for the year.

  69. dfwhawkguy says:
    November 15, 2019 at 1:54 pm
    Should be suspended… started the whole thing.
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    You know as a patriots fan it’s programmed into me to hate everything steelers but come on, garrett was sacking him all the way to the ground 3 minutes after the football was thrown! MR deserves a little fine for being frisky but a suspension is just insane.

  70. Anthony Berry says:
    November 15, 2019 at 3:15 pm

    Lol people saying Garrett started it because he hit him late. He didnt hit him late. He did him after he threw the ball but it was legal. The ref didn’t flag him for that. The ref doesnt even reach for his flag until after trying to break the fight up.

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    The initial contact was legal, but he kept him wrapped up, whipped him around and threw him to the ground well after the initial contact. He then prevented Rudolph from getting up. That’s what started all of this. I can only assume Clete Blakeman didn’t flag it because the game was already decided.

    I’ve seen people claim that Rudolph was trying to free his hand from Garrett’s mask. I don’t know if that’s true or not. The kick to the groin was totally justified by Garrett attempting to rip his helmet off and dragging him around by his head.

  71. Nothing excuses what Garrett did. But as far as what led up to it-if you don’t want to get sacked or hit, take a knee. They kept passing and kept getting sacked on those last few plays. Nothing good was going to come of it. Just endangering your own players. And Browns should have pulled Garrett as well before that.

  72. vikingjack73 says:
    November 15, 2019 at 2:27 pm
    NONE of you “experts” have ever played football, I GUARANTEE it!
    If you had, you’d know damn well Rudolph did NOT start this!

    Garrett hit him late
    Garrett laid on top of him
    Garrett ran his mouth
    Garrett wouldn’t get up

    THATS what started it!
    Rudolph was a participant, yes
    But if a 6’5” 275 LB man illegally hit you, laid on you and wouldn’t get up, you’d be mad too! Don’t kid yourself

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    WORD!!

    Read it again s-l-o-w-l-y and try to understand it!

  73. screamingyellowzonkers says:
    November 15, 2019 at 3:25 pm

    For all of you claiming Rudolph should be suspended, when has grabbing a face-mask EVER lead to a player being suspended?

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    It wasn’t “grabbing a facemask”, though. It was grabbing the front & back of Garrett’s helmet with both hands and trying to wrench it off, kicking him in the groin, and charging after him after the players were separated.

    If Garrett hadn’t then hit him with his helmet, and the game wasn’t over, it could easily have been an ejection for Rudolph. That he got hit doesn’t erase his own actions.

  74. Green kicks lebron, he gets suspended.

    Rudolph hits Garrett in the face with both hands and tries to rip off Garretts helmet and kicks him in the groin then continues to run after him to inflict more damage after they were separated, causing another big fight, and rudolph only gets a fine. Unbelievable. He should be suspended for instigating the whole thing. Everyone involved should be suspended.

  75. What I don’t understand is that we teach football players to play violent and then are surprised at the results. Kind of like teaching soldiers to be killers then being shocked they can’t just turn it off when they get home. I’ve seen the whole sequence of events and everyone deserves what they got, but what Rudolph did deserves a 1 game suspension also. The whole thing is just a shameful yet not surprising occurrence.

  76. He should receive a 1 game suspension for two reasons. One, he started it. Two, he jumped back into it when his teammates clearly had Garrett in hand. So he started it and he escalated it. I think a game suspension and a fine would be appropriate.

  77. hbk314..

    Garret wrapped him up and brought him to the ground and Rudolph landed on top of him! There is literally video evidence. Who are you trying to fool at this point? Go talk to someone who can’t search on youtube.

    I’m not going to entertain this any further. You clearly have your own agenda. Call things for what it is.

  78. Uglier that this incident are the players defending Garrett and blaming Rudolf for this happening. Their sense of what is right and wrong is way off.

  79. Looking at the video again I’m more shocked by Rudolph grabbing Garrett’s helmet and kicking him in the groin twice as well as Garrett pulling off Rudolph’s helmet. After that, you see Garrett being pursued by four Steelers at once, including Rudolph, and it’s clear he’s just defending himself with whatever he has in his hand. But Pouncey kicking Garrett in the head is simply insane. I would discipline Rudolph for the helmet grabs/groin kicks, Garrett for pulling off Rudolph’s helmet, and Pouncey for punching and kicking Garrett in the head while he’s down. Focusing on using the helmet as a weapon not so much, Garrett was probably in fear of his life at that point.

  80. And to the guy that said kids were watching this, really? On a school night? End of the game? Great parents!

  81. Larry Ogunjobi’s fine /suspension isn’t because of a push. It is because a) he ran up to join in a fight, b) pushed a player who was no longer in a fight to the ground

    Mainly the joining in a fight you weren’t a part of.

  82. A helmet on helmet hit during the game, like the one that got rudolph knocked out, is more deadly than what Garrett did. So stop it with the “he hit him with a weapon talk”. These are already using their helmet as a weapon all day during a game, trying to hurt with their helmet, and many times they knock players our with a concussion because of the helmet which is a weapon like you say, and they break players legs and knees and ligaments because of the helmet. So stop with the hypocrisy. That Garrett helmet hit was nothing major. It was alot less brutal than running full speed and hitting helmet to helmet during a game. Rudolph got hit by a weak swing with a plastic helmet with cushioning inside of the helmet for resistance to withstand a hit and bounce off of whatever it hits. That helmet just bounced off his head. Ya it hurt a little bit, but nothing compared to the hit he took when he got a concussion a weeks ago. People making a big deal out of a hit rudolph deserved because he instigated the whole thing. Stop comparing a plastic cushioned made to bounce when it hits something, to a bat or a golf club, or a brick. Not even close. Boxers take harder hits than that helmet hit. Nfl players take harder hits than rudolph took with that helmet hit that bounced off his head. People Overreacting bigtime. Rudolph should be suspended longer than Garrett, he started the whole thing. Instigators get punished more severe than the retaliater. That’s how it’s supposed to be. If it wasn’t for rudolph, nothing of this would’ve happened.

  83. This reminds me a a typical bar scene. The short scrawny drunk picks a fight with the 6’5″ 250 lb football player hoping he gets held back, but instead gets punched or pool cue whacked in the head, then he’s filling out a police report out on the curb charging assault.

    Usually it’s just a couple offsetting penalties and fines…….but then there’s this time, where the most protected player on the field outside of a punter and a kicker decided he wanted to keep it going. Rudolph has to be suspended because his actions escalated this to where it ended. If Decastro hadn’t have played peacemaker/security guard…this would have turned into an all out brawl with many players getting involved.

  84. The guy (Rudolph) kicks Garrett in the groin then attempts to rip Garretts helmet off with his head in it ???!!! He only gets fined and what about Pouncey who literally had help from #53 pouncing on Garrett ?! Garrentt needs to be suspended (period) Bit the main factors (Rudolph / Poncey/ #53) also need suspension not slaps on the wrist ! If Rudolph doesnt like being sacked complain to the coach about your OLINE and learn how to Run !!!

  85. Cops have shot at people for alot less than what rudolph did. If Garrett was a cop, rudolph would’ve been shot for being out of control trying to hit his face, ripping off his helmet and kicking him, and continuing to charge at him with rage.

  86. The NFL is punishing the Steelers by NOT suspending him. In the year of backup QBs doing great, he’s the exception. He’s literally the worst QB on any roster right now. Waste of a pick.

  87. I’m a Steelers fan. One thing that needs to happen is to find out what in the world was said and why Rudolph was tugging at Garrett’s helmet first. I believe the tackle was a bit overboard, but what happened?

  88. Dirtiest team in the league got beat at their own game last night and wants everyone to cry for them. Looking forward to the rematch

  89. vikingjack73 says:
    November 15, 2019 at 2:27 pm
    NONE of you “experts” have ever played football, I GUARANTEE it!
    If you had, you’d know damn well Rudolph did NOT start this!

    Garrett hit him late
    Garrett laid on top of him
    Garrett ran his mouth
    Garrett wouldn’t get up

    THATS what started it!
    Rudolph was a participant, yes
    But if a 6’5” 275 LB man illegally hit you, laid on you and wouldn’t get up, you’d be mad too! Don’t kid yourself
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    What kind of fantasyland are you living in?

  90. It’s hilarious people want Garrett thrown out of the league on the first offense. The NFL is trying to soften its image and apparently the viewers are turning into Nancies. Garrett was wrong but doesn’t need banned. You drama queens remind me of when Roethlisberger stubs his toe and gets carted off the field.

  91. God forbid the instigator get suspended and the precious Steelers lose a game and not make the playoffs.
    He started the fight and then ran toward Garrett and put his hands on him hoping to cause a fight and got more than he bargained for and then had the audacity to complain to the refs. I assume future opponents will give him the medicine he deserves.

  92. Lol. Where are all these kicks to the groin? I have watched this thing several times, and I see no “kicks”. I see MR’s leg/foot go up near that area after Garrett is leaning over top of Rudolph trying to pick his up off the ground by the facemask. I mean seriously, if MR actually kicks him in that area, Garrett’s hands would be grabbing something, and it would not have been Rudolph’s facemask.

  93. Most posters are NOT defending Garrett. Garrett deserves the long suspension he was given. Rudolph should serve a one game suspension for his actions, which were not nearly as bad as Garrett’s, but still deserve punishment.

  94. The league wants to protect quarterbacks unfortunately there was no legitimate quarterback on the field on that play . Rudolph’s performance last night was horrible. The nation watched a man pretending to be an NFL quarterback throw up all over himself.

  95. I think most of the folks on this article should actually try to watch the play. It is obvious all y’all didn’t watch it, or simply hate the Steelers. The play is easily accessible on the Internet and clearly shows the only thing Rudolph did wrong was to go after Garrett after his helmet was ripped off. Not very smart. However, the wrong on that play was 100% on Garrett. To say Rudolph started it makes you look extremely stupid. I don’t love the Steelers or hate the Browns, but I can clearly see with my own eyes that Garrett was in the wrong and should be gone for this season and part of next. He has displayed repeatedly his desire to cheap shot QBs. But then again, I actually watch the game and see the obvious. Unlike most of the morons thinking this is Rudolph’s fault.

  96. Has anyone asked what did the Steelers attempt to accomplish down 14 pts and 10 sec left in the game. Just take a knee and let the clock run out. There was no 14 pt play out there.

  97. How do we blame Rudolph for getting hit in the head with his helmet?? Yes, he should be fined/suspended for starting and escalating but that does not give Garrett the right to potentially kill him with a hit to the head!

    It’s one things to be fans. It’s another to be nuts!!

  98. So Garrett sacks Rudoplh late. Should have stopped there.
    At that point, Rudolph then tries to grab Garretts helmet and tries to kick him. Should have stopped there.
    Garrett then pulls his helmet off and gets pushed away by another Pitt player. Should have stopped there.
    Then Rudolph goes after him again. Thats when he gets whacked.

    If you cant see that both guys are to blame, then you are willfully blind. Garretts actions were far more violent AFTER that sack. The sack alone was nothing, and Rudolph over reacted to it. Then Garrett really over reacted.

    You cant use the old “Well he started it” defense. At some point, somebody has to be an adult and stop.

    Garretts suspension is warranted. Rudolph getting just a fine isnot enough IMHO, but it should be more. After seeing his play in that game, letting him play might be a bigger punishment for the Steelers…

  99. Rudolph escalated the situation by trying to rip Garrett’s helmet off and kick him in the groin. After being separated, he charged Garrett, then got whacked in the head with his own helmet. So he isnt exactly an innocent victim here. He at least deserves a hefty fine, if not a 1 game suspension. Don’t get me wrong, I am NOT defending Garrett’s actions. He definitely deserves to at least be suspended for the rest of this season. He could have seriously injured Rudolph. Pouncey went overboard by punching and kicking Garrett. 1-3 game suspension seems fair. The NFL has to send a clear message that this behavior won’t be tolerated.

  100. Garrett started this with one of the latest hits to a QB you’ll ever see.

    I’d be curious for a better look on what Rudolph was doing with Garrett’s helmet.

    The “kick” to the groin was pure self defense while Garrett was dragging Rudolph around by his helmet.

    DeCastro did a great job of separating the two. Pouncey was also in between. Both players were defensive at that point.

    Rudolph’s only real mistake was going back at Garrett after they’d been separated.

    After the helmet swing(he can hardly claim self defense in a fight he started), DeCastro and Pouncey correctly went on the offensive and took Garrett to the ground.

    Pouncey then went overboard with a few free hits, but Garrett still has the benefit of his helmet, unlike Rudolph. This doesn’t excuse it, but it should be taken into account. Relatively speaking, if Pouncey got three games, Garrett should get nine-plus, as his actions were at least three times as bad in my opinion.

    Garrett was severely in the wrong every step of the way here. Rudolph was questionable with whatever he was doing with Garrett’s helmet and incorrect in his continued pursuit of Garrett after they’d been separated.

  101. It’s pretty obvious a lot of the comments come from people that have not seen the whole thing. Garrett’s tackle was not late in any way. Rudolph had the ball in his hand when Garrett got to him. Garrett had his face in Rudolph’s chest when Rudolph got rid of the ball, so Garrett had no way of knowing he dumped it off, so he continued with his sack. 100% normal, 100 legal.

    Been watching football nearly 40 years and NEVER have seen a quarterback EVER respond to being sacked by trying to rip the sacker’s helmet off.

    Yes, Mason Rudolph deserves a suspension. Period. That doesn’t mean I condone what Garrett did though. Got no dog in this fight.

  102. kevpft says:
    November 15, 2019 at 2:11 pm
    “he tried to yank Garrett’s helmet off while the two players scuffled ahead of the main fireworks.”

    The “scuffle” *was* Rudolph trying to wrench Garrett’s helmet off. The video clearly shows him bearing down with both arms on Garrett’s helmet, wrenching it dangerously. Garrett then reacted by pulling Rudolph’s helmet off, as if to say, “you want to pull helmets, here’s one for you”. Then he walked away. Then Rudolph charged after him, and Garrett hit him.

    So, two violent acts from Garrett, both preceded by two violent/aggressive instigating acts from Rudolph.

    Garrett deserves suspension, but it’s a crock if Rudolph doesn’t get one as well. Take away that helmet hit from Garrett, and what’s left would justify an ejection and suspension for Rudolph.
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    Yeah, but the NFL ain’t interested in facts.

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