Myles Garrett should be careful what he wishes for

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On Wednesday, Browns defensive end Myles Garrett will have the appeal hearing on his indefinite suspension, resulting from removing the helmet of Steelers quarterback Mason Rudolph and hitting him in the head with it.

Garrett’s best argument comes from the notion that the rules don’t permit an indefinite suspension for on-field misconduct. And that’s apparently one of the arguments he’ll make.

If he prevails on that point, it’s unclear what would happen next. It could be argued that the entire suspension is defective, and thus must be scrapped. A more realistic argument would be that the suspension should be capped at the six games (plus postseason) imposed on Garrett for the balance of 2019.

The league surely would argue that, if the indefinite suspension is defective, it should be able to impose a definite suspension. And that’s where things could get dicey for Garrett. By fighting the ability of the league to defer a final decision until it has a chance to meet with Garrett after the season, the league may decide to give him a definite suspension right now of 10 or 12 or more games.

However it plays out, the NFL must be aggressive with Garrett. He could have seriously injured Rudolph, or worse. While the absence of a serious outcome saved Garrett from criminal or civil prosecution, it shouldn’t save him from a significant punishment from the league. Every current and future player must realize that no player ever should engage in this type of behavior again, because the next time could be the first time the player struck with the helmet suffers a severe concussion or a fractured skull.

48 responses to “Myles Garrett should be careful what he wishes for

  1. He could have seriously injured Rudolph, or worse.
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    It was 3 against 1….wouldn’t you fight back?

  2. It is time for the players union to do their job. Since he has not been suspended before this is excessive. Antonio Smith did this to Richie incognito in 2013. He got 2 game suspension.

  3. Whatever the number of games, they should consider the 11 games Burfict was suspended for a game speed, helmet to helmet contact penalty.

    6 games would be another frustrating example of inconsistency from the commish

  4. Redskins safety Montae Nicholson dropped off a soon-to-be corpse at a hospital on Thursday and, shamefully, the Redskins allowed him to play on Sunday. Between Garrett and Kaepernick (and the Redskins irrelevance), however, hardly anyone noticed. Nicholson should be sending Christmas cards to the Garrett and Kaepernick.

  5. Regardless of the nature of the infraction, and it was incredibly over the top, when it comes to being suspended for an on field act it’s not unreasonable for any player to want to know what his future holds. Particularly one who isn’t being paid during his suspension. 6 games or 26, who wouldn’t want to know when they can next expect to get paid?

  6. If Garrett is currently suspended, I assume he can’t practice. So, why would the NFL have to wait until after the season to talk to him? He should have plenty of free time.

  7. the entire last paragraph of this article is ridiculous and only highlights the fact that there seem to be a lot of mouthpieces for the NFL who just won’t say what is clear — as well as being a victim, Mason Rudolph was an active participant. I fail to understand why the NFL and sportswriters aren’t willing to say as much.

    Rudolph instigated the entire thing from the start, then went after and put his hands on Garrett(who was restrained by DeCastro), then went after Garret again(while DeCastro was on top of Garrett and Pouncey was kicking him in the head) and only stopped when Ogunjobi knocked him on his ass.

    why is all of that overlooked?? why no suspension for that??

  8. A player on the NFL’s version of the “Gong Show” doesn’t understand that sounds means people want you off the stage. Now, if Goodell could only ring it for the entire franchise.

  9. jerruhjones says:
    November 19, 2019 at 4:23 pm

    It was 3 against 1….wouldn’t you fight back?

    Check the tape. It was FOUR against one. And Garrett was going backwards.

  10. Go and watch the video in slow motion (easily done on the internet)

    1. Myles had his face in Rudolph’s chest during the play, so there was no way he could see/know that the ball was released.

    2. The tackle was soft, which is why the ref who was standing right there didn’t flag it; he actually pulled Rudolph down onto his own body.

    3. Rudolph immediately went for Garrett’s face and tried to remove his helmet.

    4. DeCastro is standing right there with a clear view of it; he moves in, but doesn’t go after Myles — he simply tries to separate them — why? Because he can see clearly that Rudolph was the aggressor.

    5. Garrett returns and escalates the favor by actually removing Rudolph’s helmet.

    6. Rudolph kicks Garrett in the groin during that process.

    7. Once the helmet is in hand, Garrett allows himself to be restrained by DeCastro and begins backing away. The fracas is over right there, BUT FOR Rudolph dipping his shoulder and charging Garrett.

    8. Garrett is backing up when Rudolph charges him.

    9. Garrett loses his mind and swings the helmet, hitting Rudolph with the padded part. It is my opinion in that he did this intentionally — deep in his brain, he knew not to hit Rudolph with the crown of the helmet. He wasn’t actually trying to murder the guy, just pop him.

    10. Rudolph walks away uninjured.

    11. The optics are disastrous for Garrett, Rudolph, the Browns, the Steelers and the NFL.

    These are the facts, plus one of my opinions, as noted.

    Go review the tape.

  11. commentawaitingdeletion says:
    November 19, 2019 at 4:36 pm
    Regardless of the nature of the infraction, and it was incredibly over the top, when it comes to being suspended for an on field act it’s not unreasonable for any player to want to know what his future holds. Particularly one who isn’t being paid during his suspension. 6 games or 26, who wouldn’t want to know when they can next expect to get paid?
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    In most unions when a person is suspended pending the outcome of an investigation the length of suspension or time frame for completing the investigation is open ended .The issue is whether the NFL can put him on indefinite suspension which can easily be handled by stating he’s suspended until he gets a reinstatement meeting with the league which will be decided whenever they choose which is actually an indefinite suspension .

  12. In reality getting hit in the head with the soft part of a helmet is far less dangerous than getting drilled in the helmet by another helmet that’s strapped to 300 Lb missile coming at you at 25-30 MPH. So everyone that keeps squealing about “he could have killed him” needs to accept the fact that any helmet to helmet hit is potentially lethal. But no Steeler fan ever really had much of a problem with all the times Hines Ward or James Harrison knocked someone out cold with their helmet.

  13. Garrett is probably done for this season but Rudolph will forever be a meme. His grandkids are gonna see him getting bonked. NFL Films will play this in a few years once the heat wears off. Garrett will be back next year starting and Rudolph will be on the sidelines watching Ben play. That’s life.

  14. I;m still amazed that Rudolph didn’t get fined and/or suspended, when the video clearly shows him trying to rip of Garrett’s helmet right before Garrett ripped off his.

  15. Mike, emotions have you. A little scientific reality:

    Human emotion & instant reaction rarely has any thought behind it. The Garrett helmet swing exemplifies this. Calling the helmet a weapon? Less a weapon than a closed fist punch that gets ejection but no suspension.

    The helmet:
    *helmet weighs only about 4 lbs. *The human head weighs 10 lb avg.*
    *the majority of the helmet was … AIR. Yes, air as it was empty. No head inside, right?
    *synthetic rubber foam made up another big chunk of what the helmet is. You wonder why Rudolph did not get hurt?

    Closed fist:
    *a punch to Rudolph’s head by Garrett would have been a more forceful impact (more density & velocity) than a headless helmet swing and hit. How long the susp? No susp? 1 gm? Yes, a more damaging punch may not have even warranted a susp or 1 game at most. Garrett got an indefinite susp for a LESS damaging, less impact force swing of mostly AIR and synthetic rubber foam. Pouncey would not have been given any susp if Garrett swung his fist. Likely, Garrett no susp either or 1 gm.

    Targeting:
    The biggest danger in the NFL is targeting and crown of helmet to helmet hits. Once a 10 lb head is fitted inside a 4 lb helmet, put on a 180 lb + player and such player is running at 18-20 mph, and if his targeted player is closing at 18-20 mph, that 36-40 mph (Garrett’s swing about 6 mph) impact helmet to helmet hit can create a major injury. THIS is when the helmet is a weapon. The helmet is NOT a weapon empty, less so than a slug of the fist (more dense in mass than a helmet) or a kick to the head by Pouncey.
    Take away the emotion.

    Put a little facts, logic, science behind the debate. Indefinite susp is excessive.

  16. Rudolph didnt instigate anything out of a normal football scrum. Please, please…lets not keep going back to that excuse. Rudolph is no way at fault here of being attacked with a helmet.

  17. Last play of the game … Browns up by two scores, ball deep in Steeler territory.

    Rudolph passes to his left … Garrette could easily have pulled up – but he had other ideas. He wanted a piece of the QB. Nothing to lose – game over – maybe just a penalty but so what? He’s already ended one QB’s season and now he has a chance to crack another – with minimal repercussions.

    He not only hits Rudolph unnecessarily – but drags him to the ground and rolls on him. But what! Rudolph has the audacity to actually push back!! He pushes Garrette in the face mask! Well … Garrette’s not going to stand for that! After all, he’s the bully and he’s not going to take anything from a punk quarterback … and it expands from there as he loses his temper.

    How many times has this idiot been flagged this year already?

    I watch football but don’t root for either team – but it was pretty easy to see the Browns were taking cheap shots the entire game whenever they could.

    I don’t need to see Miles Garrette again anytime soon to continue enjoying football. Suspend his dumb ass for all of the 2020 season too. That should send a message to anyone else thinking about following in his footsteps.

    The fact that he’s actually appealing his fate is totally laughable. The underachieving Browns should man up and get their act together.

  18. >>>> While the absence of a serious outcome saved Garrett from criminal or civil prosecution, it shouldn’t save him from a significant punishment from the league. Every current and future player must realize that no player ever should engage in this type of behavior again, because the next time could be the first time the player struck with the helmet suffers a severe concussion or a fractured skull.<<<<

    You are right.

    Interesting that you do not see this concept also applies to Kapernick as well.

  19. I wouldn’t be surprised if they come out and say 12 or 16 games then reduce it a little in the appeal. However, I can’t see how he can win the appeal. Everyone saw him swing the helmet. He can’t go in there and say he was hacked and that was someone else.

  20. Arnold Ziffel is not only an idiot, but blind also. There are actual pictures of Garrett hitting Rudolph before the pass is released so not sure how someone can pull up after hitting a QB before he releases the ball.

    2nd, I guess the NFL should redo rule 12, Article 17 of their rule book since it specifically states that using a helmet not on a person’s head (like swinging it as the rule book says) as a weapon is a 15 yd penalty and an ejection. Technically Garrett served his time, per the rule book already.

    I’m glad Rudolph didn’t get suspended. 1. Because he hurts the Steelers more being on the field and 2. It’ll make the rematch more exciting as the Browns players work on carrying out their own suspension on him. Steelers players deserve everything coming to him with how dirty they have been over the years with Harrison, Ward, and AB. I do not feel bad for anything that happens to them.

  21. The NFL will have to institute specific rules forbidding on field activities such as playing Whack-a-Mole or engaging in impromptu kickball games.

  22. Maybe Myles and Mason should go to Levi’s Stadium together and rip the facemask off the Joe Montana statue.

  23. A lot of apologists for Garret. I does not matter who started the fight. HE HIT ANOTHER PLAYER WITH A HELMET !!! He should get a big suspension. He deserves every suspended game he gets.

  24. Angel Valle says:
    November 19, 2019 at 4:43 pm

    10 games and anger management at minimum !
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    Anger management? Just a few weeks ago, Garrett took a punch to the face from a random citizen and did nothing. Nothing! He had a lapse of judgement during a physical and violent game. Get over it.

  25. Okay, so while this media is blowing all this crap over.

    Albert Haynsworth: Stomped on guys face, gave guy 30 stiches: 5 games

    Antonio Smith on Incognito: Swung Helmet at Incognito, missed, got suspended one game

    ndamukong suh: Stomped on players head, arm, and everywhere else.

    James Harrsion: Caused players MULTIPLE concussions. Just examples leading from Mohammed massuiquai and Colt McCoy. Suspended just one game for the hit on McCoy.

    So before you all start saying he needs to be kicked out of the league. Get rid of this cancel culture and look at the person instead of what the media blows up on us.

  26. It was like watching the Christmas special and seeing the reindeer try to attack the Bumble.
    Reindeer ends up on the ground with his eyes pinballing in his head.
    Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

  27. I’m fine if Garrett is suspended for the rest of the season. His actions warranted severe reprimand. So did Pouncey’s and Rudolph’s. How Rudolph got away with less punishment than Ogunjobi is beyond me. Since the NFL didn’t see fit to at least suspend Rudolph from the next Browns game, I doubt he finishes the game.

  28. johnnycantread says:
    November 20, 2019 at 9:09 am

    It was like watching the Christmas special and seeing the reindeer try to attack the Bumble.
    Reindeer ends up on the ground with his eyes pinballing in his head.
    Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
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    How appropriate for a guy named Rudolph. He was destined for this role.

  29. carloswlassiter says:
    November 20, 2019 at 8:44 am

    What would happen if when Garrett swing the helmet he caught Rudolph flush in the head and killed him, right there, on national TV?

    We talking 10 games and a 10K fine?
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    Oh, we are doing hypotheticals now? What if the lithium battery blew up when Brady destroyed his cell phone? Should Apple stop using lithium batteries in their phones, should Apple be sued? Somebody must pay for what could have been, right?

  30. Unless Garrett turned the helmet inside out, and I’m by no means an expert or engineer, I’m nearly certain the entire external portion of a helmet is pretty hard. The plastic below the earholes extends a bit further than the padding. If you disagree you can prove otherwise by testing at home.

  31. The NFL breaks its own revenue records each and every year, so they’re pretty good at knowing what the people who spend money want to watch. Pro fighting and wrestling don’t bring in the same type of revenue, so the NFL will get Garrett straightened out, if he wants to keep playing in the NFL. Garrett has been intentionally injuring QB’s all year. He needs to tone it down a notch. He’s a great player, even if he keeps it within the rules. When Garrett was sacking Rudolph, he wasn’t sure that Rudolph had already gotten rid of the ball, so he continued on with the sack. Rudolph might not have been aware of that, so he was annoyed that Garrett kept on with the tackle. Where the problem began was when Garrett brought Rudolph down more roughly than he had to. That, in itself should have drawn a flag. Rudolph started pushing back a little, and then Garrett went ballistic. Was it a one time deal with Garrett? No. When Cleveland played Denver, Garrett drew a penalty for roughing Trevor Siemian. Later in that same game he sacked him again and drew another 15 yarder, this time he put Siemian out for the season. The late hits were intentional, and were designed to put the QB out of the game. Since QB’s are a big attraction to the paying fans, Garrett is a threat to the NFL revenue stream. That’s being addressed. You can bet the refs will be watching Garrett from now on with one hand on their penalty flag.

  32. jerruhjones says:
    November 19, 2019 at 4:23 pm

    It was 3 against 1….wouldn’t you fight back?
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    Really, it was 2 as DeCastro wasn’t fighting bu trying to stop the fight and even protect Garrett. And really 1.5 because Rudolph is a QB. And Garrett, large as he is is more like 1.5 – so as I see it – it was even.

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