Week 12 power rankings

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1. Ravens (8-2; last week No. 1): The only thing that will derail them at this point is a Lamar Jackson injury.

2. Seahawks (8-2; No. 2): They’re one false move by the 49ers away from the No. 1 seed.

3. Patriots (9-1; No. 3): They’re one false move away from the Ravens being the No. 1 seed.

4. 49ers (9-1; No. 4): The teeth of the schedule finally arrives, at perhaps the worst possible time.

5. Saints (8-2; No. 5): Nothing cures a football hangover faster than facing Jameis Winston.

6. Packers (8-2; No. 6): Whether they win the division may hinge on whether they can beat the 49ers.

7. Vikings (8-3; No. 7): Don’t be shocked if when the dust settles in 40 days the NFC road to Miami goes through Minneapolis.

8. Chiefs (7-4; No. 9): An old-school showdown with the Raiders is looming, and there’s a good chance both teams will be 7-4 when the ball is kicked.

9. Bills (7-3; No. 10): What once seemed like a no-brainer playoff berth could still go up in smoke, especially given the upcoming schedule.

10. Raiders (6-4; No. 13): A good way to end things in Oakland would be to host a playoff game. A better way to end things in Oakland would be to not end things in Oakland.

11. Cowboys (6-4; No. 14): They’ll need to win some games they shouldn’t if they hope to get to where they should be.

12. Texans (6-4; No. 8): Their playoff hopes may hinge on their ability to recover from a 41-7 loss in only four days.

13. Rams (6-4; No. 15): This team has a long way to go to be as good as it was last year.

14. Colts (6-4; No. 18): The AFC South is there for the taking.

15. Steelers (5-5; No. 11): Mason Rudolph getting hit over the head with his own helmet provided a great distraction for Rudolph throwing four interceptions.

16. Titans (5-5; No. 16): They continue to have a very real shot at stealing the division.

17. Eagles (5-5; No. 12): The margin for error is getting slimmer and slimmer.

18. Panthers (5-5; No. 17): Before they can make a decision about Cam Newton, they’ll need to decide on who’ll be making the decision about Cam Newton.

19. Browns (4-6; No. 23): Their playoff chances may have evaporated in one windmill swing of a helmet.

20. Jaguars (4-6; No. 19): They’re not done yet, but the clock is ticking loudly.

21. Bears (4-6; No. 20): The Bears continue to be unable to string two good years together, but it feels like they’ll be stringing more than a few bad years together.

22. Chargers (4-7; No. 21): The Bears aren’t the only team that blew it by passing on Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson.

23. Falcons (3-7; No. 27): They’re officially The Team That No One Wants To Play.

24. Broncos (3-7; No. 22): Another week, another close loss that should have been a win.

25. Jets (3-7; No. 29): They’re laying a great foundation for 2020, and they still have a chance to salvage 2019.

26. Lions (3-6-1; No. 24): Will ownership see the glass as half full or as half empty, given that the glass has been mostly empty for most of the last 60 years?

27. Buccaneers (3-7; No. 25): Bruce Arians’ plan for the rest of the year is to “win them all.” (What was the plan for the first 11 weeks?)

28. Cardinals (3-7-1; No. 26): They’re not far away from becoming a contender.

29. Dolphins (2-8; No. 28): Tanking or not, this team still has a long way to go in order to become a contender.

30. Giants (2-8; No. 30): When does the push begin for an Eli Manning farewell tour?

31. Washington (1-9; No. 31): Eventually, the team will get a new stadium that fans of every team they face can overrun.

32. Bengals (0-10; No. 32): The NFL never talks about expansion. Maybe the league should start talking about contraction.

147 responses to “Week 12 power rankings

  1. 6. Packers (8-2; No. 6): Whether they win the division may hinge on whether they can beat the 49ers.
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    In other words, the Packers have a snowballs chance in hell to win the division.

  2. “Don’t be shocked if when the dust settles in 40 days the NFC road to Miami goes through Minneapolis.”

    No one is “shocked” that you a lifelong Barney is constantly spewing blatant bias for your little Vikings on your website.

  3. 2. Seahawks (8-2; No. 2): They’re one false move by the 49ers away from the No. 1 seed

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    And the 49ers are one missed field goal away from being the #1 seed. So there’s that….

  4. 17. Eagles (5-5; No. 12): The margin for error is getting slimmer and slimmer.
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    Playing a red hot Seahawks squad, even at home, is not gonna help that margin either :/

  5. 1. Ravens (8-2; last week No. 1): The only thing that will derail them at this point is a Lamar Jackson injury.

    With his style of play, you never know. When he’s running, he’s a target to get hit.

  6. 6. Packers (8-2; No. 6): Whether they win the division may hinge on whether they can beat the 49ers.
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    In other words, the Packers have a snowballs chance in hello to win the division.

  7. Saints beat Seahawks in Seattle and have the same record and the tiebreaker advantage. Do you guys even watch the games??

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    Yeah we watched them lose badly to the Falcons.

  8. The only thing that will derail the Ravens at this point is… the Patriots offense improving to the point of not being overshadowed by their defense.

    Still a one game lead, and both have tough schedules.

    But you can count on TB12 to eventually get on the same page with his O-line & young receivers

  9. Power Rankings are worthless but its absolutely comical to have the seahawks above the saints. The saints marched in there with a backup qb and absolutely destroyed them. Majority of their yards and points came in garbage time. No dog in the fight by my lord…how can you take yourself seriously when you make rankings like that?

  10. “26. Lions (3-6-1; No. 24): Will ownership see the glass as half full or as half empty, given that the glass has been mostly empty for most of the last 60 years?”

    Bold of you to assume ownership cares

  11. Did Florio say something positive about the Vikings?

    I’m not sure if it’s a bit or not to mess with Paul Allen and Viking fans….but dang does he love to hate on Cousins and the Vikings.

    Some if deserved….much of it not.

    Dont look now….Cousins is a Top 10 QB.

  12. cheeseisfattening says:
    November 19, 2019 at 12:12 pm
    In 40 days my Vikings will be 13-3 and will have won the Super Bowl

    Again.
    What super bowl did they win? More like they would lose their 5th super bowl if they made it there.

  13. zonedout100 said:

    1. Ravens (8-2; last week No. 1): The only thing that will derail them at this point is a Lamar Jackson injury.

    With his style of play, you never know. When he’s running, he’s a target to get hit.
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    That’s assuming anyone can tackle Lamar. Given his ability to make defenders consistently miss him (and break their ankles in the process), this is a silly thing to worry about.

  14. I don’t normally respond to silly rankings but the Browns at 19 when they thumped the Steelers literally and figuratively as well as dominating the Ravens and beating the Bills. Easily could’ve had wins over the Rams and Seahawks as well.

    Admit it, the Browns are a talented mess that is better than 19!

  15. I’m ok with the Patriots being down a little while the flavor of the month thing is going on. Long way to go.

  16. Arizona is very close to being a very good team and a contender in the NFC. The Cardinals offense is very good and will only get better over the off-season w/ so many young developing rookie 1st & 2nd year players on that team. QB Kyler Murray is legit and has the tools to become an elite top 5 caliber NFL QB and will make a huge jump from year one to year two. Kingsbury has proven to be a great play designer and offensive play caller who can build a very dangerous top 5-10 offense in the NFL.
    This off-season Arizona just needs to build up their front 7 and get Kyler Murray a defense. With Arizona set to have $90-$100 Million in cap space and picking fairly high in the draft somewhere between 8th-12th overall in each round AZ has the capital to really build up their front 7 and add a few more weapons around Kyler Murray. If Arizona jus has a good solid top 15 defense next season that can hold teams to under 21-23pts on average the Cardinals will win a lot of games winning more games than they lose. The Cardinals have a lot of good young promising rookie defenders on that defense who should be a lot better in year 2. Offensively I think Arizona will look to sign a top RT to plug in up front such as M. Feiler out of Pittsburgh or Jack Conklin and add 1-2 more WR’s to a very good young developing receiving core looking to draft a true #1 such as 6″3 OU WR Ceedee Lamb who is a beast with sky high potential. Come this time next year though Arizona will be a much better time, Keim has done a good job rebuilding the roster and has the aarow pointing up for the 1st time since Carson Palmer & Bruce Arians retired.

  17. “1. Ravens (8-2; last week No. 1): The only thing that will derail them at this point is a Lamar Jackson injury.

    With his style of play, you never know. When he’s running, he’s a target to get hit.”

    Literally 33% of pocket passing starters have gone down this year. Worry about them.

  18. “Don’t be shocked if when the dust settles in 40 days the NFC road to Miami goes through Minneapolis.”

    Hilarious. Even if the Barneys did get the #1 seed for the NFC they’ll choke it away as usual in the playoffs.

  19. Vikings just gotta take care of their own bidness not worry about what the Packers are doing. It may come down that game at the Bank in the House of Pain and it also may hinge on the final game against the Bears. Take it week by week, control what they can control and that is being prepared every week, the rest will fall into place. Enjoy the ride for now Cousins is play well, running game has been good, defense especially the secondary needs some work, big time

  20. Haha..Seahawks are 8-2, but two wins because other team missed a FG. Should be 6-4

    Wilson is all-world, but the defense has given up 100 more points than 49ers.

    Love that the 49ers get no love….setting them up perfectly!

  21. savethebs says:

    Saints beat Seahawks in Seattle and have the same record and the tiebreaker advantage. Do you guys even watch the games??

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    Yeah we watched them lose badly to the Falcons.

    We also watched the Seahawks beat the winless Bengals by 1 point at home. Your point is dumb.

  22. 7. Vikings (8-3; No. 7): Don’t be shocked if when the dust settles in 40 days the NFC road to Miami goes through Minneapolis

    Sincerely
    Stevie Wonder

  23. billyw1969 said:

    Ravens and that dope qb will get knocked out in first round
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    I’m not sure how that would be possible considering the Ravens have the inside track a bye in the first round.

  24. Pulledgroin says:
    November 19, 2019 at 12:10 pm
    Saints beat Seahawks in Seattle and have the same record and the tiebreaker advantage. Do you guys even watch the games??
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    Stop acting like its some travesty. NO beat them in week 3. A lot has changed since then.

  25. The seahwaks are the most over-rated team in the top 10. The margin of victory 3 or less in half of their games – many decided by a missed field goal. They needed OT to beat the Bucs at home, where they also have HANDILY to the Ravens and a Drew-less Saints team. It’s cute that you have an everlasting crush on RW, though.

  26. jimmyt says:

    The Raiders will be The Raiders to their fans where ever they reside.
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    I’m with Florio. I hear what you’re saying, but it still sucks that true blue fans in Oakland are losing their team. I can’t believe the support they’re giving Mark Davis as he scoots off to Tinsel Town.

  27. Talk to me about the Patriots after they host Dallas, visit Houston and then return home to play KC. At this point, other than another AFC East title, there is little we can be confident of. In BB we trust!

  28. 6ringsandarapist says:
    November 19, 2019 at 12:35 pm
    cheeseisfattening says:
    November 19, 2019 at 12:12 pm
    In 40 days my Vikings will be 13-3 and will have won the Super Bowl

    Again.
    What super bowl did they win? More like they would lose their 5th super bowl if they made it there.
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    Missed the sarcasm, maybe…

  29. I’ll believe the Vikes will do it when they’re taking knees with under 2 minutes in Miami.

    Until then…not buying that this year is any different than the 58 before it.

  30. “We watched them lose badly to the Falcons”

    Yeah we also watched the Ravens lose to the Browns.

    We watch the 49ers play a cupcake schedule.

  31. Pulledgroin says:
    November 19, 2019 at 12:10 pm
    Saints beat Seahawks in Seattle and have the same record and the tiebreaker advantage. Do you guys even watch the games??
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    You do realize these are Power Rankings, not playoff seedings? As in, rankings up to this point in the season, mostly refelcting the last week or 2…

  32. My Raiders are winning too ugly to be at #10. I put them ahead of the Colts at #14. We’re not the best 6-4 team out there.

    This is not our year. Next year. That’s our year.

  33. In 40 days my Vikings will be 13-3 and will have won the Super Bowl

    Again.
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    When exactly did the Vikings win a super bowl again?

  34. 25. Jets (3-7; No. 29): They’re laying a great foundation for 2020, and they still have a chance to salvage 2019.

    It’s amazing how two wins over terrible teams changes the view. A great foundation? The OLine is terrible, the WR’s are the worst in the NFL, the secondary can’t cover… a great foundation?

  35. ravensaresuperior says:
    November 19, 2019 at 12:06 pm
    Ravens right where they belong. Live with it !!!

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    Congrats on being ranked #1 in someone’s power rankings in November. I’m going to lose so much sleep over this, but I’m really proud of you and glad you’re happy!

  36. cheeseisfattening says:
    November 19, 2019 at 12:12 pm

    In 40 days my Vikings will be 13-3 and will have won the Super Bowl

    Again.
    _______

    Really?
    Hmm…….where to begin?

    40 days won’t even get you to New Years Eve with the postseason yet to be played.

    Again? Please point out when and where they’ve ever won it before.

    And just a side note, putting aside the fact that you’re expecting the Vikings to run the table to go 13-3, there’s the issue of the playoffs where your team won’t be facing and struggling against 2nd and 3rd string QBs.
    But Hey, keep that dream alive, you know, while you still can.

  37. Lightsabermetrics says:
    November 19, 2019 at 12:36 pm

    That’s assuming anyone can tackle Lamar. Given his ability to make defenders consistently miss him (and break their ankles in the process), this is a silly thing to worry about.
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    This is the NFL. So that’s a silly thing to say. Go ask RG3 about it. And Mike Vick.

  38. “Ravens and that dope qb will get knocked out in first round”

    He’s throwing at a 66.3% completion rate for 2258 yards, 19 TDs and only 5 INTs, plus he’s run for another 788 yards and 6 TDs, though he does also have 4 fumbles.

    Seems like a pretty good QB to me.

  39. If the Vikings CBs don’t start playing better, the dust will settle on their vacant lockers after the first round of the playoffs. However, it is interesting, and way too typical, that the cheesers absolutely cannot accept any third party saying something positive about the Vikings.

  40. “the8man says:
    November 19, 2019 at 1:03 pm
    Talk to me about the Patriots after they host Dallas, visit Houston and then return home to play KC. At this point, other than another AFC East title, there is little we can be confident of. In BB we trust!”

    I definately will bud. I would say we can be confident in ALL of those games beyond an AFCE title. Ill be sure to check in with you.

  41. Between complaining about holding 24/7 and a missed field goal…..Clara fans forget Seattle had the game sealed with a dropped powder puff can of corn INT by Wright. The Seahawks were a DK Metcalf and Rashaad Penny fumble away from blowing the doors off of the 69ers.

    This is an example of ‘hangin on by a thread’. Clara…..the doormats of the NFC West know what’s coming.

  42. Glad to see my Raiders finally getting some recognition from Florio and company. That said, we to remain hungry and focused if we’re going to make the playoffs. Just win, baby!

  43. The Vikings have a team that can beat every team in the NFC playoff hunt. Not every team in the NFC but of the 6 remaining, they can win. Especially if they go 13-3, 12-4 & get home field. They have a great chance.

  44. 7. Vikings (8-3; No. 7): Don’t be shocked if when the dust settles in 40 days the NFC road to Miami goes through Minneapolis.
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    Weren’t you guaranteeing a 7-7 record going into the Packer game just a couple of weeks ago?

  45. Talk to me about the Patriots after they host Dallas, visit Houston and then return home to play KC. At this point, other than another AFC East title, there is little we can be confident of. In BB we trust!
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    You can’t even be confident of an AFC East title, especially with that underwhelming offense. I think the division will come down to week 16 matchup with the bills, in which the pats will be 11-3 and the bills will be 10-4.

  46. Being on top of the power rankings in November is only slightly more impressive than being there in October. Somebody should look it up, but I wonder how many November one seeds become February one seeds…

  47. 1. Ravens (8-2; last week No. 1): The only thing that will derail them at this point is a Lamar Jackson injury.

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    Come on Florio, I’m not even a Ravens fan, but don’t jinx Lamar Jackson like that…

  48. Patriots fans are constantly blinded by their arrogance. The Ravens and their fans would like nothing more than a rematch with the Patriots, regardless of location, if it meant avoiding a rematch with the Chiefs.

  49. Call them “flavor of the month”, but Ravens beat our ass up and down the field. Tommy is not leading a playoff offense right now. We’re going to need some shutouts down the stretch.

  50. purpleguy says:
    November 19, 2019 at 1:16 pm

    However, it is interesting, and way too typical, that the cheesers absolutely cannot accept any third party saying something positive about the Vikings.
    _________

    Yeah, you see, people are making light of it.
    It’s called humor, you should really learn about it.
    It’s fun!

  51. Patsareinyourheads says:
    November 19, 2019 at 1:28 pm
    Being on top of the power rankings in November is only slightly more impressive than being there in October. Somebody should look it up, but I wonder how many November one seeds become February one seeds…
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    To lazy too look up more than year, but…

    PFT Power Ranking, Week 11, 2018 (November 13, 2018):

    1. Saints

    2. Rams

    3. Chiefs

    4. Chargers

    5. Patriots

    6. Steelers

    7. Bears

    8. Vikings

    9. Texans

    10. Washington

    11. Panthers

    12. Titans

  52. “how can you take yourself seriously when you make rankings like that?”
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    Simple, it’s important to be different than the real rankings over at NFL.com

  53. Harry Palmer says:
    November 19, 2019 at 12:57 pm
    The seahwaks are the most over-rated team in the top 10. The margin of victory 3 or less in half of their games – many decided by a missed field goal. They needed OT to beat the Bucs at home, where they also have HANDILY to the Ravens and a Drew-less Saints team. It’s cute that you have an everlasting crush on RW, though.
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    Key word being VICTORY. If Seattle was losing these games, they’d be getting deservedly roasted for it. And while any Seahawks fan would tell you its frustrating to see them make it interesting seemingly every week…they’re getting it done just the same.

    Despite a god awful o-line and defense that is at times painful to watch…they’re still 8-2, which regardless of schedule is impressive in the NFL.

  54. Okay so the Saints beat Seattle in Seattle pretty convincingly and sweep the same team it took Seattle overtime to beat, Tampa Bay. Yet the Seahawks are ranked ahead of the Saints. Yeah they obviously don’t factor in the obvious on this Disneyworld type rankings.

  55. A problem for the Vikes even if they beat GB at home is that awful looking Bears loss. If the Pack can beat Detroit and Chicago, even if they lose to Minne, if the records are the same, GB has the better Divisional record. So, Vikes may HAVE to be 13-3 to win the Division.

  56. Saints Pats 49ers are interchangable at 1, then its everyone else. Get real man

  57. Yadda yadda at the end of the day the Patriots will be lifting the Lombardi keeping with tradition. We see it every year. Last year Kansas City was the hot team. Came to Foxboro and lost, played in their home stadium and lost. Belichick and Brady. Maybe when he turns 50 some other team may have a shot. Until then be happy with your participation trophy.

  58. 15. Steelers (5-5; No. 11): Mason Rudolph getting hit over the head with his own helmet provided a great distraction for Rudolph throwing four interceptions.

    Yeah, I’m sure that was his entire game strategy: get sympathy by being attacked by some maniac. Great analysis, Florio. Somewhere a circus is missing a clown.

  59. At Seahawks is always tough, but coming off a bye the Vikings could pull it off..after that they don’t lose a game, so, yes they could run the table as I trust Zimmer to get his secondary back on track.

  60. vikesfansteve says:
    November 19, 2019 at 1:20 pm
    The Vikings have a team that can beat every team in the NFC playoff hunt. Not every team in the NFC but of the 6 remaining, they can win. Especially if they go 13-3, 12-4 & get home field. They have a great chance.
    _________

    So let’s see…they can’t beat every team in the NFC but they can beat every NFC in the playoff hunt and every team remaining on their schedule. They already beat every NFC East team and Atlanta, Chicago and Detroit are still on the schedule, so I guess that means they can’t beat Tampa Bay and/or Arizona. I’d love to know how you came to that conclusion.

  61. Nothing makes me laugh harder than hearing patriots fans, the fans who’ve had it best for the past however many years, cry about not being respected. Please. If they were that good, they should’ve blasted the eagles & their anemic offense, especially given all those short fields but were still (another) Nelson Agholor drop from a loss or tie. There’s a reason Brady was pissed they cut AB and you’re seeing it. The defense is good enough to win the division & keep them in games but if the road to Miami doesn’t go through NE, which it doesn’t look like it will, this ain’t their year. What do you want the analysts to say? Sure, things could change, the NFL is a week to week league but if they need a trick play to beat the eagles, they’re not beating top teams in the AFC. Maybe they’ll find a way to cheat their way through the playoffs again, who knows?! Prove me wrong next week though & beat the pants off the cowgirls please

  62. Vikes can play scary tough at times and at others it takes the collapse of an at the time 3-6 team to get the win.

    No doubt they can put on a show at times, but if they come out playing against a playoff team like they did the Broncos, there is no comeback happening.

    Don’t count them out, but saying the road to Miama might run through them is a bit laughable.

  63. Alan Light says:
    November 19, 2019 at 2:29 pm

    Packers would lose to 7-27 on this list….
    _______

    Well, except for the fact that they’ve already proven they’ve got more than enough talent to beat the #7 team!

  64. ninefingers9 says:
    November 19, 2019 at 12:10 pm

    6. Packers (8-2; No. 6): Whether they win the division may hinge on whether they can beat the 49ers.
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    In other words, the Packers have a snowballs chance in hell to win the division.

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    Folks with crystal balls eat a lot of glass. Dan Rather said that.

  65. 9. Bills (7-3; No. 10): What once seemed like a no-brainer playoff berth could still go up in smoke, especially given the upcoming schedule.

    Yep, the stage is set for a complete and total collapse.

  66. freefromwhatyouare says:
    November 19, 2019 at 12:12 pm
    “Don’t be shocked if when the dust settles in 40 days the NFC road to Miami goes through Minneapolis.”

    No one is “shocked” that you a lifelong Barney is constantly spewing blatant bias for your little Vikings on your website
    ____
    Feel free to go comment on a website that was started or run by a Packer fan. LOLOL. 🤣😆

  67. Ravens are currently the best team by far. And one reason is they seem to be the only team in the NFL capable of defending the pass. no other team seems to be able to do it, except for maybe new england. every other team in the NFL simply cannot defend the pass anymore. time for some new strategies if you ask me.

  68. isithockeyseasonyet says:
    November 19, 2019 at 2:54 pm

    the NFL is a week to week league but if they need a trick play to beat the eagles, they’re not beating top teams in the AFC.
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    First, in the rankings here I certainly would not have argued the Patriots any higher – they might rightfully be lower.

    But since when does running a trick play diminish a win? The goal is to get the ball in the end zone and they did, just like Baltimore does with all kinds of QB runs, or Philly did with the Philly special in that SB win.

  69. 1. Ravens (8-2; last week

    No. 1): The only thing that will derail them at this point is a Lamar Jackson injury.

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    Then, why did the Chiefs and Browns beat them? They’re not unbeatable. They have two losses because they got outplayed twice this season. The Browns of all teams scored 40 points against them. Being the hottest selling flavor of the month doesn’t win super bowls.

  70. So, they won’t be playing 2nd and 3rd stringers in the playoffs so they’ll win easily by the logic I’ve read in the comment. The next game in Seattle will decide playoff positioning as all the rest are easily winnable aside from the battle with the Refs on Dec 23rd. We’ll see…

  71. zonedout100 says:
    November 19, 2019 at 12:24 pm
    1. Ravens (8-2; last week No. 1): The only thing that will derail them at this point is a Lamar Jackson injury.

    With his style of play, you never know. When he’s running, he’s a target to get hit.
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    I know it’s hard to accept that the game has changed. Moving forward the successful QBs will more resemble Lamar Jackson, than Tom Brady. That’s just fact. That said, it’s OK. The game is in good shape.

    When I grew up, my football heroes were Johnny Unitas and Fran Tarkenton. I was a very young QB myself, learning by watching from the best. Today’s QB is more like Tarkenton than Unitas. In my view both were great, but they were different.

    In short, the game continues to evolve and so must our ability to adapt and understand that evolving isn’t bad. Besides, it’s inevitable. Oh and the possibility of getting injured is equitable. Also, as Ali said, “you can’t hit what you can’t see.”

    Violent sport-anybody can get hurt.

  72. FootballSeasonRules says:
    November 19, 2019 at 3:31 pm

    1. Ravens (8-2; last week

    No. 1): The only thing that will derail them at this point is a Lamar Jackson injury.

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    Then, why did the Chiefs and Browns beat them? They’re not unbeatable. They have two losses because they got outplayed twice this season. The Browns of all teams scored 40 points against them. Being the hottest selling flavor of the month doesn’t win super bowls.

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    Of course they’re beatable. But the examples cited are now 8 weeks old, when (1) the Ravens best defensive lineman (Williams) was injured and out, (2) the Ravens 2nd best CB (Peters) wasn’t on the team yet, (3) the Ravens 3rd best CB (Smith) was injured and out, (4) their starting MIKE (Bynes) wasn’t on the team yet, (5) their starting WILL (Fort) wasn’t on the team yet, (6) they hadn’t switched from Jefferson to Clark at starting SS; (7) they hadn’t switched from Levine/Canady to Carr (by addition of others as the third safety (that they play in over 75% of snaps); and (8) they hadn’t had Ferguson replace McPhee at one of the OLB spots. So, sure, the name on the front may be the same, but when 8 out of the top 13 spots on the D are different, it’s hard to actually say with a straight face with this is the same team that lost to Cleveland.

  73. Its so much fun to read the Cheezer’s reaction because the Packers are not the favorite in the NFC. Its like they are entitled because of past seasons accomplishments. Right now Wilson has a RTG rating of 114.9 and Cousins with an RTG 114.8 if (BIG IF) both these QB continue to play at this level their respective teams are going to be hard to beat come play off time. Road game or home game, it doesn’t matter. Play-offs start and what you did during the season does not matter, it doesn’t matter who you lost to, beat etc.

    While the focus having been on Frisco and deservedly so, Seattle and Minny have crept under the radar to be formidable opponents to the Saints, 9ers, Cowboys and Packers.

  74. cheeseisfattening says:
    November 19, 2019 at 3:20 pm

    freefromwhatyouare says:
    November 19, 2019 at 12:12 pm
    “Don’t be shocked if when the dust settles in 40 days the NFC road to Miami goes through Minneapolis.”

    No one is “shocked” that you a lifelong Barney is constantly spewing blatant bias for your little Vikings on your website
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    Feel free to go comment on a website that was started or run by a Packer fan. LOLOL. 🤣😆
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    That’s unlikely to happen because I don’t think the internet has come to Green Bay yet. Although one of the hundreds of thousands of Packer fans that moved to Minnesota for a better quality of life might start one.

  75. Wafflestomp says:
    November 19, 2019 at 3:04 pm
    Alan Light says:
    November 19, 2019 at 2:29 pm

    Packers would lose to 7-27 on this list….
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    Well, except for the fact that they’ve already proven they’ve got more than enough talent to beat the #7 team!

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    Did they beat them, or did they need a Stefon Diggs Touchdown to be taken away for a bogus ‘pick’ call on Cook to Win? Even thou he did it at the line of scrimmage (that’s legal by the way). The Packers are yet to beat a good team without some phantom, controversial call helping them win. Also lost to the Eagles, and Chargers, and should have lost to the Lions.

  76. ringsandarapist says:
    November 19, 2019 at 12:35 pm
    cheeseisfattening says:
    November 19, 2019 at 12:12 pm
    In 40 days my Vikings will be 13-3 and will have won the Super Bowl

    Again.
    What super bowl did they win? More like they would lose their 5th super bowl if they made it there.
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    Who is looking at the SB in week 12?
    That was just a packer troll, wafflestomp, known in here for changing his name. I have him so upset he is changing his name to mine and saying dumb stuff as his way to come back at me. To tell the difference look at each cheeseisfattening name. His cheeseisfattening is to one of his accounts boasting about being an owner (LOL). Mine is to an hilarious clip that shows a packer fan racing. everyone should see it.

  77. Okay so the Saints beat Seattle in Seattle pretty convincingly and sweep the same team it took Seattle overtime to beat, Tampa Bay. Yet the Seahawks are ranked ahead of the Saints. Yeah they obviously don’t factor in the obvious on this Disneyworld type rankings.

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    Wait…what? What game are you referring to? 33-27 is convincingly? One TD…

    If memory serves, the Seahawks lost to NO because EVERYTHING that could go wrong, did go wrong, all day long. Pete Carroll wrote it all off after the game and said “it was one of those days.” Exactly how I felt. I just wrote it off…nothing to learn. Stupid stuff happening.

    Chris Carson fumbles in the rain, NO picks it up and runs to the endzone for an easy 7.

    NO returns punt for TD with Seattle guys slipping all over. So that’s 14 points Seattle spots NO in the first half.

    Other ways the ball bounced NO’s way…Those two punts by NO’s punter were KILLER. Excellent job by him to pin the Seahawks inside their 5 yard line two series in a row. So frustrating.

    Look, you guys got the win and good job. That’s football, you win or you lose the early games and then you cry or laugh about what happened earlier in the season, later in the season.

    If that game comes back to bite the Seahawks and NO gets a better seed because of it then that’s the breaks….but don’t pretend the Saint’s won “convincingly”. That was a close hard fought battle in the sloppy rain all day long. Seattle could’ve easily won that game. They didn’t even really know how good they were yet I don’t think.

    Maybe we’ll see a re-match with Drew playing.

  78. ajzinnecker says:
    November 19, 2019 at 4:28 pm
    Wafflestomp says:
    November 19, 2019 at 3:04 pm
    Alan Light says:
    November 19, 2019 at 2:29 pm

    Packers would lose to 7-27 on this list….
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    Well, except for the fact that they’ve already proven they’ve got more than enough talent to beat the #7 team!

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    Did they beat them, or did they need a Stefon Diggs Touchdown to be taken away for a bogus ‘pick’ call on Cook to Win?
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    You know, instead of the constant whining because your star RB doesn’t know how to throw a legal block, perhaps you should blame your fair weather defense for spotting GB 21 points in the first half.

    Or better yet, maybe throw a little shade at your 84 million dollar QB for throwing a crucial pick in the red zone when the pressure got to him.

    Nah, it’s much easier to throw erroneous blame at the refs, AGAIN, despite the fact that absolutely nobody else agrees with you.
    And then cry like a little girl about it.
    You guys are absolutely pathetic.
    Pathetic and hilarious! skoLOL!

  79. 17. Eagles (5-5; No. 12): The margin for error is getting slimmer and slimmer.
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    Playing a red hot Seahawks squad, even at home, is not gonna help that margin either

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    I find it interesting that the Eagles are 2 point favorites.

  80. cheeseisfattening says:
    November 19, 2019 at 4:37 pm

    Who is looking at the SB in week 12?
    That was just a packer troll, wafflestomp, known in here for changing his name.
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    Lie.

  81. sojournofred says:
    November 19, 2019 at 1:59 pm
    A problem for the Vikes even if they beat GB at home is that awful looking Bears loss. If the Pack can beat Detroit and Chicago, even if they lose to Minne, if the records are the same, GB has the better Divisional record. So, Vikes may HAVE to be 13-3 to win the Division.
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    Hey, Cheesehead, the problem with that assumption is GB’s last game against the Lions w a healthy Matthew Stafford AT Detroit, a place that’s been really tough for the Pack. Plus, you face a highly motivated Lions team out for revenge on that first game that was snatched from them via the Green Bay refs. Now it’s the Lions’ refs. I just don’t thin they’re gonna win that game.

  82. Wafflestomp says:
    November 19, 2019 at 5:34 pm
    cheeseisfattening says:
    November 19, 2019 at 4:37 pm

    Who is looking at the SB in week 12?
    That was just a packer troll, wafflestomp, known in here for changing his name.
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    Lie.

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    Not too self aware either. He thinks he is fooling most people. 😛

  83. Viking fans have no clue how to get their hands on some eggs, but that doesn’t stop them from counting chickens they don’t have or telling others how stupid their chickens look.

  84. Vikings fans have been celebrating winning the division since the Super Bowl last year. They truly believe that if the Packers and Vikings both end up at 12-4 that the Vikings would win the division.

    Sadly, the Vikings having a 1-2 division record puts them severely behind the Packers in that tie-breaker. The Vikings would basically have to win 2 more games than the Packers do in this last stretch of games to overtake the Packers.

    That’s why we say you’re two games back.

    Sports standings 101. Well, that’s a college thing. And none of you have been…so… just let the grownups talk about sports, little ones.

  85. It would be a 3 way tie with Seattle/GB/N.O. in which case head to head only counts if a team has won or lost to the other two teams. In a 3 way tie between these team, Seattle owns the 3 way tie break.

  86. ehsguy72 says:
    November 19, 2019 at 12:13 pm
    2. Seahawks (8-2; No. 2): They’re one false move by the 49ers away from the No. 1 seed

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    And the 49ers are one missed field goal away from being the #1 seed. So there’s that….
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    Seahawks are three turnovers away from winning by 24 so there’s that.

  87. ….but don’t pretend the Saint’s won “convincingly”. That was a close hard fought battle in the sloppy rain all day long.
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    So the Seshawks should’ve had the advantage at home in the weather. That was a convincing win for the Saints and their defense. Wilson’s last two TDs were late garbage time.

  88. sb44champs says:
    November 19, 2019 at 6:54 pm
    ….but don’t pretend the Saint’s won “convincingly”. That was a close hard fought battle in the sloppy rain all day long.
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    So the Seshawks should’ve had the advantage at home in the weather. That was a convincing win for the Saints and their defense. Wilson’s last two TDs were late garbage time.
    ………………………………
    I agree on one thing, the game was OVER but Wilson kept scrambling quickly to make it look better. (So that’s how Stafford gets all those yards!)

    But come on man. Seattle played their worst game in 3 years, making unforced errors in all 3 phases of the game. Teddy Two Gloves just protected the ball, handed off to Kamara, and threw within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage while the Seahawks self destructed the first 3 quarters til it was a blowout. If you actually think the Saints beat the Seahawks…..those are some rosy glasses. Seattle beat Seattle.

    Wilson sucks in the rain….. It’s been a growing concern for Seahawk fans. This season his 2 worst performances, have come in the only rain games @ home. So if there is rain in the forecast during a Seattle home game…….bet the house on who ever they are playing and take the points.

  89. anonymousraven1 says:
    November 19, 2019 at 4:02 pm

    Of course they’re beatable. But the examples cited are now 8 weeks old, when (1) the Ravens best defensive lineman (Williams) was injured and out, (2) the Ravens 2nd best CB (Peters) wasn’t on the team yet, (3) the Ravens 3rd best CB (Smith) was injured and out, (4) their starting MIKE (Bynes) wasn’t on the team yet, (5) their starting WILL (Fort) wasn’t on the team yet, (6) they hadn’t switched from Jefferson to Clark at starting SS; (7) they hadn’t switched from Levine/Canady to Carr (by addition of others as the third safety (that they play in over 75% of snaps); and (8) they hadn’t had Ferguson replace McPhee at one of the OLB spots. So, sure, the name on the front may be the same, but when 8 out of the top 13 spots on the D are different, it’s hard to actually say with a straight face with this is the same team that lost to Cleveland.

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    If only there were this many excuses for a team like the Patriots. With your logic, the Ravens are not playing the best football in the AFC because New England didn’t have Gronk, Antonio Brown, Jakob Johnson, Isaiah Wynn, N’Keal Harry, James Develin, David Andrews, Stephen Gostkowski, and other valuable players when they last played in Baltimore. We could easily say the Ravens defeated the Patriots’ C squad. Had the Patriots beaten the Seahawks, Bengals, and Cardinals, people would be saying how they haven’t beaten anyone yet.

  90. Packers Rubes ALL THE NFL SHOWS ALL OF THEM NFL Network, Fox, ESPN, Pro Football Weekly all say one game. They havent even talked tie breakers yet. Talk about eggs and chickens that havent hatched. Even if the 9ers beat the Packers, Packer rubes will say we have a one game lead we hold the tie breaker. Tie breaker will come into play more than likely after the game on the 23rd of December until then zip it about the tie breaker crap.

    There are 5 games left and Packers still have to play Minny. Unless you are penciling in wins all ready like you did the Chargers, we all know how that turned out. Anything can happen, injuries, not playing well, the bounce of the ball.

    Right now, here,13 World Championships mean nothing, Minneapolis Mircle means nothing! Or is it the fact the Vikings 84 million dollar QB is out playing your 103 million dollar QB? YOUR WORRIED AND YOUR POSTS DONT LIE!

  91. Wow. Calm down, cheesy pornstash whatever your screen name is this time.

    If the roles were reversed you’d be all about tie breakers. How do I know? Because every year you’ve been in the lead in the division, you’re all about tiebreakers.

  92. Remember the Simpsons ep from like 20 years ago (25?) in which Homer becomes a boxing phenom based solely on his ability to take insane beatings, just to be there at the end to knocl over his exhausted opponent with a feather (metaphorical feather)?

    That’s these Seahawks. Unlikely to win a blowout, almost as unlikely to win a game by double-digits. Just stick around and keep it close enough to give the ball to RW3 and pray.

    So yeah, they barely beat some awful teams, and lost badly to Saints and Ravens. Don’t expect them to ever impress. I would agree that they are the weakest team with 8 wins. But they are pretty well set for playoff football. Could be a game for the ages if they meet SF a 3rd time, as SF is probably the team best-built for playoff football.

  93. The Seahawks are so great and the Rams are so mediocre, yet if Greg Zuerlein had kicked that normal-distance last-second FG to win that game in Seattle, both teams would be 7-3 and the Rams would be one up in the head-to-head matchup. I understand all about woulda-shoulda-coulda, but it shows how an overall framing is sometimes shaped by a few inches here or there.

  94. I find it interesting that the Eagles are 2 point favorites.
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    Home field is 3 pts usually so if it’s only a 2 pts line that means they think the Seahawks are a slightly better team.

  95. 8. Chiefs (7-4; No. 9): An old-school showdown with the Raiders is looming, and there’s a good chance both teams will be 7-4 when the ball is kicked.
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    Technically, it is possible for both teams to be 7-4 when the ball is kicked. But if the Raiders play down to their competition like they did against the Bengals…they will lose.
    Le’veon is not Joe Mixon and Darnold is a damn sight better than Ryan freakin’ Finley.

    Florio talked about how the Bengals was a trap game, this is the REAL trap game for the Raiders.

  96. ravensaresuperior says:
    November 19, 2019 at 12:06 pm
    Ravens right where they belong. Live with it !!!
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    No need to have a chip on shoulder here. Considering that even the fanbases of the Ravens opponents are in agreement that the Ravens are the hottest team right now I think folks are living with it just fine.

  97. I tend to get tired of all the rage/hate comments when the Patriots are number one so its nice having them down to three. Dropping them lower would be fine too for the peace it would bring. The other thing that helps is when the Patriots hate gets buried while the Vikings and Packers fans have at it.

    See you all at the end of the season and may the best team win. I hope that is the Patriots but understood other teams (most notably Ravens and Chiefs) have their decent chances of getting there instead, and then Im sure whoever the NFC has there will be a tough team in their own right. I guess we will just have to play some football games to settle this.

  98. Jmethane the Saints led by 3 scores with like 3 minutes left. Seattle scored its last TD when they were given an extra down after the clock ran out. The game was not competitive. That said I expect your team to be a tough out. But their D is a far cry from the glory years.

  99. “They’re one false move away from the Ravens being the No. 1 seed.”

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    The Raven’s are one false move away from being 2 games down to the Pats.

  100. Florio is a classic Vikings fan, getting your hopes up to the highest of high’s only to have your heart ripped from your chest. So many ups but deep down always conditioned to be waiting for the other shoe to drop. He had put the nail in the coffin on their season after week 4 only to praise them now when they are rolling. Just wait until they lose again and he’ll put them on blast. Doom and gloom then confetti and champagne depending on the week. I embrace him as a brother!

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