Myles Garrett appeal decision is expected today

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On Wednesday, Browns defensive end Myles Garrett and NFL Players Association made his case to hearing officer James Thrash. On Thursday, a decision is expected.

A source with knowledge of the situation confirms that Garrett’s case hinges on a comparison to the Antonio Smith helmet-swinging (but not connecting) incident of 2013. The league suspended Smith for two preseason games and one regular-season game for that infraction.

Garrett also argues that an indefinite suspension is not permitted for on-field misconduct. Per the source, Garrett’s camp has argued that the league’s inability to impose an indefinite suspension should cap the ban at six regular-season games plus any 2019 postseason games for which the Browns qualify. If, in contrast, the league gets another bite at the suspension apple with the directive that it be specific and definite, the league could in theory impose a much longer suspension.

If Garrett emerges with six or fewer games, that should be regarded as a big win for him, but also a significant loss for the game. No player ever should swing a helmet and strike an opponent; it never should have happened the first time, and the end result in Garrett’s case must ensure that it will never happen again. Six or fewer games may not be enough to do that.

29 responses to “Myles Garrett appeal decision is expected today

  1. Of course, this is a slippery slope because the NFL can say “OK. You’re right. Indefinite suspensions are not allowed. We’ll suspend you for 2 full years” so he does need to tread carefully.

    Personally, I would advise him to accept the ban for the rest of the season then pursue this in the offseason when (a) emotions die down a bit and (b) someone else would have surely done something more egregious, thus taking the spotlight off of him.

  2. The rest of the season and postseason is enough.

    I mean come on, it’s not like he tripped someone.

  3. As a fan of neither of the 2 teams involved in the scruff – give him more games banned just for appealing it. Anyone that wants to say that Rudolph started it needs to go watch the tape again. Garrett hit him late and didnt need to hit him at all. End of story. Dirty team – dirty coach – dirty player.

  4. See McSorely, Marty.

    After he cracked Brashear with his stick , he got a season. He also never played again.

    I understand it was a much more violent incident that lead to much more serious injuries , and that McSorely faced criminal charges, so it’s not entirely apples to apples.

    With that said , the NHL got it right . The NFL should do the same.

  5. Sure as hell looked like Smith connected with the helmet uppercut to me. If Rudolph doesn’t go full psycho and try to rip Garrets helmet off, hell, if he doesn’t even charge him none of it would have happened, but I guess you’re ok with Rudolph getting nothing.

  6. Didn’t Elliott get punished for fighting his suspension??? For something it seemed he did not actually do? Just sayin…..

  7. Six games is longer than the five given for stomping on a dude’s unprotected head (resulting in thirty stiches). Give me a break, ya’ll need to quit acting like the moral authority.

  8. I disagree with you on this Mike. If suspension is limited to the remainder of this season (6 games plus the post season) the majority of fans would see that as fair punishment.

  9. What Garrett did was absolutely disgusting and an affront – to say the least – to the entire league. He has to be suspended for the balance of the season and at least the first four to six games of next year. Anything less will fail to convey the gravity of his actions.

    Sometimes lessons need to be taught, so others learn. I can’t think of a better example of what Garrett did then to use him as the poster boy for this type of a severe punishment.

  10. They should simply allow helmet swinging, and fighting, and downright brawling. Think of how much fun the league would be

  11. Garrett was assaulted with a non-football move, by multiple players lead by Rudolph. In self defense Garrett responded. Garrett should be playing Sunday following full apology from Rudolph and the Steeler organization. Free Myles.

  12. Ok here’s your logic, its because it was a helmet. What if, since we’re playing what if games, Myles drops the helmet, places a well times right , straight into Rudolph’s face. Breaks Rudolph’s jaw, puts him in the hospital, wrecks his career. Would that warrant a ban, even though Myles would have been protecting himself?

  13. The problem here is that the guy who initiated and then escalated the “non-football” actions isn’t being suspended. If the NFL is going to throw the book at Garrett it’s hard to justify while not suspending Rudolph at all.

  14. Stop making excuses for Garrett, who has already shown that he likes to push the line.
    Again, if Garret and Rudolph had been in a bar and Rudolph kicked him in the nuts, if Garret had used a pool cue or a bottle and then hit Rudolph in the head, depending on Garrett’s priors, the least he would be charged with is assault. Garret lost it and as a result he should lose a full season.

  15. I just retired after 30 years of teaching middle school. Some of the comments on here bring me back to those days. You know, the “he started it, I was just defending myself” comments.

    I don’t know how many games Garrett should get. If this had happened 2 weeks ago, would people say that 8 weeks (the rest of the season) was enough? What if it had been week 2, would 14 games be too many? It seems the argument that the rest of the season is enough is letting him off a little easy, but 16 games (meaning 6 now and the first 10 next year) seems like too much. Maybe 1 game to start next year?

  16. hibcid16 says:
    November 21, 2019 at 11:18 am
    Stop making excuses for Garrett, who has already shown that he likes to push the line.
    Again, if Garret and Rudolph had been in a bar and Rudolph kicked him in the nuts, if Garret had used a pool cue or a bottle and then hit Rudolph in the head, depending on Garrett’s priors, the least he would be charged with is assault. Garret lost it and as a result he should lose a full season.

    I get your point but Rudolph would also have been charged with assault in that scenario.

  17. chrisnsundance says:
    November 21, 2019 at 10:53 am

    Would that warrant a ban, even though Myles would have been protecting himself?
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    Protecting himself from what? Garrett had a helmet on. What was he in danger from? And he was in the process of being surrounded by other players trying to move him away. Yeah, if he would have dropped the helmet and swung at Rudolph’s head with his fist, he would he would likely have still been suspended. Of course, had he dropped the helmet and proceeded to push and shove and pretended to fight (like middle school kids do), likely no suspension, or maybe 1 game.

  18. Garrett should be suspended for the rest of the season.
    If Rudolph had been seriously injured, who would guide the sleigh?

  19. Garrett deserves to be punished. That said the question seems to be how much is appropriate. We have several significant factors. First the NFL rule prohibiting striking another player with a helmet calls for ejection and a 15yd penalty. While this has already been assessed, it is too light. Second this is a union environment, so the collective bargaining agreement rules these proceedings. The CBA does not allow for an indefinite suspension for on field infractions. CBAs do rely heavily upon precedent. The most recent case of swinging a helmet generated a suspension that covered two preseason games and one regular season game. Based on that it’s quite possible that Garrett gets a four game suspension. It is less than what the NFL wants
    and more than the past precedent in games and in monetary loss. Sometimes the best negotiations end in everyone feeling like they lost.

  20. Everyone keeps saying Garrett could have or what if, Pouncey was kicking him in the head. He could have broke his neck. What if he kills him? Then people use the excuse that Pouncey lost it. Why is that valid for Pouncey and not for Garrett who was getting his neck twisted in his helmet ripped off?

  21. This is all about the act not the individual. To strongly discourage possible future acts of assault, the NFL will lower the boom in this instance. What other players did cannot justify such acts, and the NFL will make sure this message is clear.

  22. Garrett should be banned for life for making an unsupported accusation that Rudolph used a racial slur. Not a single other person confirms this and there were multiple black players in the immediate vicinity. If he isn’t banned for life, players (even from his own team) should make sure he suffers a career ending injury ASAP.

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