49ers suspend broadcaster for comment about Lamar Jackson’s “dark skin”

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The 49ers have suspended radio commentator Tim Ryan for saying on a radio show on Monday that Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson is good at at faking handoffs because of his “dark skin with a dark football.”

“We hold Tim to a high standard as a representative of our organization and he must be more thoughtful with his words. Tim has expressed remorse in a public statement and has also done so with us privately,” the 49ers said in a statement to the San Francisco Chronicle. “We know Tim as a man of high integrity and are confident he will grow and learn from this experience.”

Ryan issued a statement saying, “I regret my choice of words in trying to describe the conditions of the game. Lamar Jackson is an MVP-caliber player and I respect him greatly. I want to sincerely apologize to him and anyone else I offended.”

After calling the 49ers’ loss to the Ravens on Sunday, Ryan was asked in a radio appearance on Monday about what makes Jackson so hard to stop.

“He’s really good at that fake, Lamar Jackson, but when you consider his dark skin with a dark football with a dark uniform, you could not see that thing,” Ryan said on air. “I mean you literally could not see when he was in and out of the mesh point and if you’re a half step slow on him in terms of your vision forget about it, he’s out of the gate.”

The 49ers said they reached out to the Ravens to apologize on behalf of the entire team.

The 52-year-old Ryan was a linebacker for the Bears from 1990 to 1993 and spent 11 years calling games on television for FOX before becoming the 49ers’ radio commentator in 2014.

226 responses to “49ers suspend broadcaster for comment about Lamar Jackson’s “dark skin”

  1. I understand that it’s a sensitive subject but he’s making a pretty logical observation and said nothing to insinuate in any way that Lamar’s skin color affects his opinion of him… this seems silly…

  2. I don’t know Tim Ryan or his intentions. In my opinion, I don’t think he was being racist. A bit insensitive…However, It is a fair observation. I don’t think Lamar would be offended by that. People now are a little too sensitive and get caught up in the Cancel culture that we live in right now. That’s a shame!

  3. Suspended for that? Wow. Maybe facebook, Twitter and whatever other social media will disappear the guy now? Maybe what he said is accurate as observed? Why the fuss then? Or should we all be offended? Is Jackson offended? Someone needs to play the audio for Jackson and see what he thinks about it.

  4. Not sure I agree with a suspension. The color of one’s skin is the color of one’s skin. Pointing that out isn’t, in and of itself, racist or offensive.

  5. Are they going to fire people who mention someone’s pale skin? People have different shades or colors of skin. Are suppossed to pretend this doesn’t exist? This type of stupidity has caused friction between groups and is far more harmful than a factual statement.

  6. There’s no doubt Tim Ryan is right about this. Other teams with lighter uniforms are at a disadvantage compared to Lamar Jackson and Baltimore’s dark purple uniform. If the NFL is willing to suspend Tom Brady for four games over deflategate what’s going to be done about this? The football blends too well for Jackson on the RPO and the Baltimore uniform color scheme is a major part of it.

  7. The white anger is ripe on this one. It’s not PC to ask people to be respectful about sensitive issues. It’s also an asinine comment he really didn’t need to make. The problem is that he’s taking away from this young mans natural talent by making it about his skin color. It’s absurd to think that is affecting how good he is at faking handoffs.

  8. Not surprised at all. He’s said similarly stupid things. He said similar stuff about Russell Wilson.

  9. Nobody is trying to say there aren’t a lot of racists out there, and we all know black people experience a ton of discrimination, but Tim Ryan is a very decent person who was just giving an ex-defensive player’s insight into some of the reasons Lamar Jackson is dominating the NFL, and that wasn’t the only thing he said. But the 49ers are the team that got rid of Colin Kaepernick and Eric Reid because they spoke out against racism, so who do they think they’re kidding? This is kind of like the pot calling the kettle black.

  10. I hate PC culture and 99% of California, but I think this is the right punishment. He shouldn’t be fired, but imo mentioning race in a job like this shouldn’t happen and it’s how the so called war with it continues.

  11. The fact that so many people find nothing wrong with the comment shows we have a long way to go.

  12. Unforced error there Tim! He didn’t have to talk about skin color he could have just stuck to the uniforms. Even so, nobody should be offended by the comment. It clearly wasn’t intended as an insult.

  13. Ryan could have just said: Jackson is really fast, really good at the play action/RPO, and just an all around difficult player to stop because he’s the best athlete on the field all the time”.

    And for those of you calling this “PC”, well, what’s it like back there in 1989 with Jimmy the Greek and Rush Limbaugh?

  14. Being a black man it’s not about being overly sensitive but rather having to constantly deal with perceptions such as the one reflected in the comments made by the radio broadcaster. Many commentators feel there should not be any offense taken. To them I say consider the fact that Lamar, Vick, Cam, RG3 etc. had to play at an MVP caliber level before they were considered worthy NFL talents other than just another black Athletic QB, or that Lamar’s skin complexion is what allows him to fake the handoffs rather than them just being considered talented QBS (regardless of race) or Lamar just being very good at faking the handoffs (regardless of complexion). Lamar studied body movement and technique, and consulted with the gentleman who created the RPO to learn the techniques. It’s not about his default skin color. When you understand it from this perspective you will have an appreciation for why his comment has a far deeper And compounding impact. I commend the 49ers for having the awareness to address the incident and even to apologize to Lamar and the Ravens organization.

  15. I don’t think he’s racist based on such comments, however this is an entertainment business decision where ratings reign supreme. Should he be fired, no. Sensitivity around race is never going to lighten up in our lifetime. Blaming it on a PC culture is misguided helplessness.

  16. To be clear, I find a lot wrong with the comment. Mainly it’s idiocy as it’s completely asinine to believe this skin color has any bearing on this. I simply don’t think it’s racist on its face. Dumb? Heck yeah.

  17. Alottagood, thank you for your explanation. I don’t pretend to know what should offend people, especially as white guy.

  18. Ryan, in good faith, was just bringing the color of his skin, as an element who did contribute to Jackson’s fake effectiveness. To me, it is the same as bringing any other physical attribute, to analyse the productivity of any given player.
    But, we have to take into consideration the historic dimension related to sheer fact of mentioning the color of the skin.
    This being said, that does not warrant a suspension by any means. At best, a discussion behind the scene, and maybe some form of apology by Ryan. Now, because of the suspension, the 49ers lifted the comment to the level of the unacceptable.

  19. How people can be offended over facts, I have no idea. No malice or racism exists in this context and he apologized for something he actually did a good job of picking up on. It was very interesting and logical – leave it to the PR department to say it’s racist and hateful.

    Welcome to the 2010’s!

  20. I honestly don’t find what Tim said to be offensive. I’m a kid from inner city Oakland, CA.(East Oakland to be exact).

  21. There is nothing racist or insensitive about pointing out that the shade of the jersey and the ball and his skin are very similar when stated in the context of the deception created by the fake. We’ve been talking all year about how hard it is to see who has the ball. Weddle said last week that he couldn’t tell. I’m not sure how much the color shade plays into it, probably not much, but it’s not improper to wonder.

    Racism is when you hold a negative opinion of someone based on their skin color. Discrimination is when you act on it. This is nowhere close to that. The guy spent 20 minutes declaring Lamar’s greatness! To compare this to Jimmy the Greek or Rush is just simple minded! Clown show.

  22. I normally don’t even comment on social issues here cuz I know better. But serious? If you think someone is wrong cuz they care about what matters to them, why are you right because you care about what matters to you?

  23. Logical observation without prejudice. I hope no one makes any other mention of a player’s skin tone, hair color, height, weight, eye color, sex, musculature. It could lead to a suspension and public apology tour we see here.

  24. Right or wrong, he had to know this would stir the pot and there would be consequences.

  25. I honestly don’t get how some of the comments get upvoted. Sign of the times we live in I guess. Saying someone is good at their job because of their skin tone is just silly.

  26. He said Lamar was great at faking handoffs..and with a dark ball, dark skin and a dark jersey it might cause a defensive player to misjudge….even just a half a step…and if you give Lamar a half step, forget it, he is gone.

    Guys…sincerely and without derision, please educate me why this is worthy of suspension.
    Thanks

  27. I’ve got an idea, before anything is done, any action taken, any suspensions invoked, any false judgments made, any racist or counter-racist opinions expressed, let’s ask Lamar Jackson if he was offended.

  28. So if you say a player has a height advantage that’s OK? Wouldn’t that be a slur to bring that up? How about a weight advantage? How about Ted Williams eyesight? How can making a factual statement be so idiotically twisted into a supposed insult? The only thing dumber than an incident like this are the nitwits that try and pretend that this amounted to anything more than contrived pc BS.

  29. Baseball has colored seats in the outfield so batters can see the pitches better, yet we’re supposed to believe that dark skin doesn’t matter for this? He’s a great player either way.

  30. I agree that America is too sensitive, and saying something like this does not mean he’s a racist. But come on, he’s a radio broadcaster, and this shows no self awareness of what he is saying. Most of us would not have said it, especially on the air. But if he’s a good guy, hopefully he overcomes this, it should not cripple his career.

  31. At first glance you’re thinking oh that’s normal you can’t do that…. But then you get a chance to think about what he was saying and all he was saying was the eyes see colors and the brain has a hard time picking up changes when the colors are all similar.

    I mean that’s true. It’s why camouflage works. The ball is indeed very close to the color of Lamar’s skin. That’s not Rachel that’s just a fact.

    It’s very likely a reason why the defense was having trouble picking up the fakes. They were obviously having trouble picking up the fakes.It’s only a thing because of how quick and explosive he is. That instant is everything. It’s almost a compliment because nobody else has really had this problem. They weren’t quick enough for it to matter.

    I don’t think he meant it with any negative racial meaning whatsoever, he was just being straight truth about how the brain works without thinking about any possible extenuating consequences. I mean really, if he thought about that he wouldn’t have said it. Probably didn’t even occur to him.

    But we all understand why he had to apologize and accept some consequences to make people happy.

    I mean if they had white flesh colored footballs it would have been a horrible problem that got fixed long ago.

    We live in weird times.

  32. He gave him a compliment before mentioning the color of his skin. Not too many racists compliment the race they hate. It was a poor choice of words but possibly an accurate observation. Jackson does those same fakes with a white jersey on as well though. I’m interested if there is any noticable difference in his performance between the two jerseys. I doubt it.

    Either way it was simple observation but it didnt need to be said. If an albino was holding the ball it would stick out more than it would if a darker person was holding it. That’s just facts. Everyone knows it, it doesn’t need to be said.

    Lamar Jackson isn’t the only black QB to ever do a play fake though so this being the first time he mentions it is the odd part for me. I’m black and I don’t fine it offensive though. I’ve been told that my teeth look more white because I’m black. I was very thrown off by it. I have A1s… my teeth look really white because they are white. I didn’t understand the point of it being mentioned. I wasn’t offended. Its like a backhanded compliment. That’s the part I feel other people don’t understand.

    I don’t think he is racist, he’s just like some of my friends who don’t really understand how their comments are percieved. Racist people are ignorant but you can be ignorant and not racist. I’d let him slide on this one.

  33. Being a black man at 65 all my life I’ve been hearing we are to sensitive. So you faceless commentators on PFT are suppose to tell me how I feel? What I’m reading here tells me some not all people have little respect for our sensitivity. One idiot on here said America needs a reset. How stupid do you have to be to not know that means.
    Frankly I’m truly disappointed that PFT allowed some to these comments to stand. And don’t give me that free speech crap because we all know that PFT will block you especially if you make a comment about Florio.
    I’ve posted on my social media for everyone to come read these comments because I think it’s important.
    I guess Breitbart has a sports section now.

  34. Obviously Lamar Jackson’s skin is not the same color as a football and the comment seems racist on the surface. But it’s fair to talk about competitive advantage issues even if it makes people uncomfortable. The uniform, extended hair, helmet type, shoes, untucked jerseys, etc have all come up in the past as far as whether a players style comes up as a competitive advantage/disadvantage. If a darker person uses a dark football with a dark jersey it’s fair to say it might be harder to identify it. I probably wouldn’t go there if I was him but he might have a point also.

  35. They don’t allow pitchers to wear a white sleeve or a glove with white on it.

    Who needs to get fired for this travesty?

  36. All I know is that when I watch him play, it is like a magic act. I have no clue where the ball is.

    Now, I am going to see if there is any truth to this.

    Makes sense.

  37. Tim Ryan is kinda a baffoon but I don’t think any dark skinned person gets upset by someone referring to their completion. That is stating fact about skin pigmentation and light reflection.

    Now if he was talking about race/intelligence to play QB that’s a different story.

  38. Skin tone never crossed my mind, but I thought the same thing in regards to the uniforms as I watched Raves vs 49ers last weekend. The combo of dark shirts and pants makes picking up on what’s happening with an RPO much more difficult (the Ravens have also worn white and/or purple pants over the years). In theory, I guess the addition of a darker shade on the players arms (whether it be from natural skin tone or sleeves) would add to that. Yeah, the guy should have known in today’s culture what he said was going to catch flack, but I don’t think he said it in a derogatory way intended to hurt someone.

  39. Lol he deserves to be suspended. Whether there was ill intent or not it was dumb. If u dont realize the age we live in and what can easily sound racist or non PC you deserve. But I wouldn’t expect all the senior citizen caucasians that post on this blog to understand that.

  40. Does that mean the cameramen and the TV crew were racist too? Because they kept following Mark Ingram while Lamar bootlegged out for huge gains. It is harder to see the ball when the background is similarly dark.

    I am ultra-liberal and very conscious of racism, such as the rampant racism all over this site’s comments. But as I watched the game I joked to my friend that they should make the ball two-toned because I kept getting fooled myself. I don’t know anything about the man who said it but he apologized, let him get back to work and we can all move on

  41. If you dont see this as racist you are tone deaf, and just would prefer to be blind to the world we live in

    He is basically saying that he has success because his skin is black so the ball is hidden.. not because he is a talented football player..

  42. Reminds me of Jimmy the Greek’s comments back in the 80s about why African Americans were so good at sports. This guy made a sincere apology and I think we can let go of a single dumb comment he made in ignorance and not malice. Still, as a broadcaster, he needs to be much more careful.

  43. Just a dumb answer by the guy, clearly he wishes he could ha a redo on that answer. He apologized,sincerely,time to move on. No need to Witch Trial him.

  44. They whole team apologized to the Ravens team for a radio announcer talking about one guy?

    Lol, what a totally San Francisco thing to do.

  45. I hope San Fran loses every game. This is ridiculous. If a black commentator make a remark regarding a white players skin, they would joke about it for weeks. And people wonder how Trump gets elected

  46. Bad week for Ryan and the Niners. He should be punished. He also told some fan to “shut up man, you got a big mouth,” to a fan that was heckling the booth. Not a good look all around.

    Good analyst, funny guy just lost his mind temporarily and now must pay up

  47. Dark ball, dark jersey and dark skin. Contrasts play a major role in vision. Namely, to analyse movement, or to locate a specific object among multiple objects. Ryan paid the price for trying to be exhaustive in his analysis. And totally relevant, since we talk here about a fraction of a second for a defender to make a decision.
    What we have here, is a reporter, trying to decipher the magic of a player that amaze us all, including himself. Good faith by a keen observer. The 49ers staff should have taken all that in consideration, and handle it differently.

  48. raiderbeer34 says:
    December 4, 2019 at 8:41 pm
    and if booger said u cant see tom brady in the snow everybody would just laugh.

    When Steve Young played for Tampa Bay in the mid 80s, he played a game in a blizzard in Green Bay — it was in 1985 and they got about a foot of snow that day. The Bucs came out in all white uniforms and you had to look really hard to see Young repeatedly getting thrown into a snowbank.

  49. Anyone who doesnt understand why Ryan was suspended for his public comments should find a DIVERSITY AND PLURALISM seminar. Then take it TWICE. And once more for good measure. Keep spouting this unconcerned-get over it rhetoric and watch what happens. Stay woke!

  50. I don’t think it’s a racial statement, just dumb. The football is a lot bigger the your hand and it is shaped differently, don’t really know how that helps with fakes. I wouldn’t call what he said as a factual statement. Yes, the dark skin is factual, but helping with fakes is a reach, IMO.

  51. Don’t call drew brees white or short. You risk offending the pigmentally-challenged and the vertically-challenged.

  52. it’s idiocy as it’s completely asinine to believe this skin color has any bearing on this
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    Why?? His skin is very similar in tone to the color of the ball. It blends well and is more difficult to distinguish. Who cares? I could say the same about my skin and mayonnaise lol. Is anyone actually going to say it’s as easy to spot a ball against Lamar’s arm/body than say, Andy Dalton? Good grief people just want to be offended now days.

  53. jbwheeler2003yahoocom says:
    December 4, 2019 at 8:51 pm
    I’m Black and I’m in no way offended…wth!
    (it is a good point too)

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    I’m white and some may say that a white baseball thrown by a white pitcher is more challenging for a batter. I’m not offended.

  54. Tim Ryan is 52 and did not grow up in an America where politically correct idiocy was the de facto law of the land, as it is now. Nor did I. There is absolutely nothing wrong with his observation that a dark skinned guy, wearing a dark uniform, is good at handing off a dark football.

  55. charliecharger says:
    December 4, 2019 at 7:46 pm
    Nobody is . . . . . This is kind of like the pot calling the kettle black.
    ***********************************************
    Uh oh. You’re now suspended.

  56. All of the problems we face in society must have been solved if this is what qualifies as something to be concerned about.

  57. Waiting for baseball season and someone to say you can’t see the ball come out of a pitchers white hand LMAO

  58. Antonio Brown called Mike Mayock a cracker and threatened to punch him in the face. Ya don’t see him losing his job! Oh….wait a minute.

  59. Yet everyday people complain that prominent white people got to where they are because they are white. To which you’ll say “It’s true though.” You can’t have it both ways.

  60. Granted there is a lot of history of coded language around black quarterbacks but this doesn’t seem to fall into that category. I think the issue lies mostly in his use of the word “but”. If he says “he’s really good at the fake AND his skin tone and uniform color make it even tougher” it sounds a lot different. For instance, wouldn’t a in a white uniform with white sleeves have some advantage in a game played in a now snow storm. Pointing out that his skin tone and uniform make it harder for opposing players to read the RPO is like saying a taller QB can more easily see over the O-line or that a shorter RB can hide behind the O-line. Doesn’t take away from their other talents. If his complexion does make it harder to read, wouldn’t it be smart to take advantage of it? Say he was white, wouldn’t it be smart to where dark sleeves if it helped hide the exchange? At the NFL level even if it slows a defensive players reaction a split second more, that could be the difference in a TFL and a TD.

  61. They did him a favor with the suspension. It will sting a little like touching a hot stove. Likely will prevent him from saying anything stupid.

  62. This is why Trump is president. People are so quick to point out everyone’s “little” mistakes, and suspend/stone them, that we look for a “tells it as it is” guy who at least seems real.

  63. If Mike Tirico said “blah blah blah because Peyton Mannings is so white and pale” I’m pretty sure he would get in trouble.

    You cant talk like that guys. Cant beleive I even have to say that.

    And I hate political correctness.

    Also a lot of things are the truth but might be best not said on the radio.

    I could give several examples but I think any intelligent person gets the point.

  64. Should be fired. Lamar’s complexion isn’t even close to lookin like a ball. Peyton Manning had one of the trickiest playaction fakes ever and his skin is as pale as snow…

  65. You simply cannot make a comment like that.

    It implies that Lamar’s skintone, not his talent and hard work, is the main reason he is good at fakes.

    It takes away from Lamar’s skill. It’s like saying a person got into Harvard because of their skin color. This may be partially true (just like the fake handoff comment) but it minimizes the black person’s qualifications.

  66. Kyle Shanahan and company are in town to play the Redskins, is an acceptable statement. But his isnt?
    Wait, what?

  67. On social issues I’m a west coast flip flop wearing, vegan eating, aluminum free deodorant stinking, body surfing hyper liberal and I cannot understand what got this idiot in trouble. The comment is dumb I think we can agree there, but why should he be suspended or even have to apologize?

  68. It’s a stupid comment because Lamar is like Copperfield with his slight of hand skill. Regardless, I don’t think he was being racially insensitive. I’m dark skinned and take zero offense to the remark. If you want to suspend him for stupidity, go for it. For comments about his skin color, I take that as a compliment.

  69. He said part of the reason Jackson was successful was his skin color. It doesn’t have to be racist, but it was a stupid comment, and wrong. He’s successful because of his talent and knowledge of the game and practice, not because of his skin color. An apology should have been sufficient.

  70. Welcome to political correctness! McCoy calls his running back a “bad white boy” and everyone laughs. The 49er announcer makes a silly comment and “oh my god!” The libs/Dems are running our country into the ground.

  71. What if Lamar was told he had to wear “white hands” just so he wouldn’t have an unfair advantage over defensive players who cannot tell.

    Would this be reverse black facism?

  72. I am as screamin’ liberal as they get, and I thought the exact same thing when they played the Patriots.
    There is NOTHING racist in talking about skin tone as long as it is done in a non-derogatory manner— which this certainly sounds like. In fact, being able to mention skin color in such a way seems like a healthy step away from racism.

  73. zracer says:
    December 4, 2019 at 7:49 pm
    I hate PC culture and 99% of California, but I think this is the right punishment. He shouldn’t be fired, but imo mentioning race in a job like this shouldn’t happen and it’s how the so called war with it continues.
    ————————————-

    Where did he mention race?

    . . . and you hate 99% of California?

    yikes.

  74. I doubt if this was a racist statement, but it was an ignorant statement. It’s just like saying that it’s harder to hit a pitch coming out of the hand of a white baseball pitcher than it is a black or Hispanic pitcher. People always want to make excuses for losing.

  75. The remark perpetuates the stereotype that African-Americans do not have mental capacity to play quarterback.I am an old conservative white guy and I understand that it was more then a dumb remark.

  76. Everyone is for free speech and not being over sensitive snowflakes until someone takes a knee.

    Then cancel culture is great.

  77. So all of you running quarterbacks start wearing black sleeves and gloves if your skin tone isn’t dark enough.

  78. Yet another black man chiming in. I have thought about this and it comes down to, would we be having this conversation if a black broadcaster said the same thing? The answer is no, it would be a nothingburger. I think this is a reaction by the oversensitive PC culture.

  79. I’m so sick of this thin skinned, overly sensitive society. I’m a white guy and I’m pretty sure I could hide a snowball in my hand better than a black guy and wouldn’t be offended if he pointed that out. Give me a break!

  80. Then any Cleveland Browns QB should be good at fakes when they wear those brown jerseys regardless of his skin color right? It was a dumb comment.

  81. I understand the history behind black QB’s and the uphill battle they had. I just don’t feel like this is another example of that. He’s pointing to a logical correlation of colors as to why defenses have a hard time seeing the ball on playaction. If Baker Mayfield wore a brown sleeve with his brown jersey, the ball would be more difficult to see as the colors now blend with each other. That isn’t an opinion.

    There are many examples of black QB’s getting unfair treatment or criticism. This just isn’t one of them

  82. I don’t think any apology was necessary. Ryan should have stated such and defended his statement as what it was.. Simply an observation. He was going to be fired anyway. Why not go out with your head held high?

  83. Deon Sanders made a reference to skin color during the combine. Paraphrasing “He runs fast for a white guy.” I was not offended. It was true. Deon Sanders was not suspended for his “racial” comment.

    There is a double-standard between whites and minorities. Aren’t all of us supposed to be treated equally?

  84. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    December 4, 2019 at 7:53 pm
    The fact that so many people find nothing wrong with the comment shows we have a long way to go.

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    Actually, the fact that so many people find this offensive shows how OVERBOARD the entire world has gone when it comes to the PC/SJW thing. Pointing out ones skin color in a non offensive way is not grounds for firing or social backlash. It’s pathetic and whiny!!!

  85. Just like its the athletes job to knw what he can or cant put in his body, commentators should knw we they can or cant say. Had steven a smith said it wouldn’t be an issue though.

  86. “Many commentators feel there should not be any offense taken”

    Many of those people are the same ones who think that an African American man kneeling peacefully to protest racism dishonors Veterans, but see nothing wrong with Trump stealing $2.8 million from his supposed charity for Veterans.

  87. I don’t get it. If Lamar’s skin color is close to that of the football, of course it is helpful to concealing it. If it is an asset, why can that not be discussed when he is doing it so well? The chronic PC liberalism is getting counterproductive to reality and productivity. This is not “racist”. If Lamar had white hands, of course it would be easier to track the ball. The announcer is just pointing out yet one more thing that makes it so hard to track for defenders, as well as his speed, his quickness, his vision, his mental makeup. Cmon America, stop this junk.

  88. “If the NFL is willing to suspend Tom Brady for four games over deflategate what’s going to be done about this?”

    This has zero to do with this article.

  89. He knows he did wrong or else he wouldn’t have apologized. He would have quit if he thought he was being unfairly treated. There is definitely a market for his original comments, as shown here. So he wouldn’t be out of work. Maybe give him credit for doing the right thing in trying to fix it.

  90. Really not much different from what you hear on baseball broadcasts about (caucasian) pitchers having a delivery that the hitter finds hard to pick up due to arm position holding a white ball against a white uniform.

  91. Change the color of the ball to white. Everyone will be able to say a white QB in a white uniform has an advantage of ROP’ while no one will complain.

  92. Mr. alotagood, please answer these questions: Are you saying his skin color has no bearing on the difficulty of tracking the ball when he fakes a handoff? Or are you saying the dark uniforms have no bearing? Or maybe it’s the dark football that has no bearing?

  93. I can see the near future where there will be a glowing ball with a GPS like tracker which the players can follow on a screen inside their helmets.

  94. The white anger is ripe on this one. It’s not PC to ask people to be respectful about sensitive issues. It’s also an asinine comment he really didn’t need to make. The problem is that he’s taking away from this young mans natural talent by making it about his skin color. It’s absurd to think that is affecting how good he is at faking handoffs.
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    There is no white “anger” in this. Please be original and fight the temptation to follow the trend that everything is racist. It’s gotten really old, predictable and boring.
    What he said is 100% true. Should he have said it in today’s pathetically PC climate? Probably not.

  95. @alottagood you may be an articulate writer but your bottom line is still a victim mentality. Every single QB you mentioned had legitimate questions asked about their game because of…THEIR GAME! While I’m not going to sit here and pretend there aren’t people out there that think black QBs can only run and be gadget guys, don’t play victim politics in this one. NO ONE saw this coming from Lamar. Last year he could barely hit the broadside of a barn throwing. And yes it is being over sensitive to be offended by someone describing legitimate physical characteristics that may be contributing to some of his success. Read the quote again. He mentions 3 times how great Lamar is, and once how his skin color being similar to the ball and jersey adds another wrinkle (which is a logical observation). No one lost their mind when Tom Brady was drafted in the 6th round for being an awkward, unathletic looking white guy. No one stereotyped Bridgewater as being just another runner because he’s black, because he didn’t run. If we’re ever going to overcome racisms, stupid petty comments like this need to stop being a big deal. We need to be able to acknowledge our subtle differences in culture and color without hate. After all, race is an illusion. Human beings’ DNA is the least diverse of any primate. Anthropological scientists and biologists don’t even consider race to be relevant. That’s how alike we all really are.

  96. Racial….what racial remarks did he say? Next we are going to start suspending announcers for talking about a player’s height, muscle mass, speed. Ridiculous…

  97. If skin color doesn’t matter, then why do snipers dressed in camouflage paint their face with green/black stipes?

    Because they ARE harder to see…
    ..and it can save their friggin life!!

  98. Sounded to me like an objective observation. There was no malice there. I understand there’s a large group of people who feel we need to be more considerate or sensitive to the feelings of others, but is it racist to say a black man is black?

    terrystown is exactly correct – racism isn’t going to go away until we all acknowledge our little differences while understanding they’re not better or worse, just different. Racism-denial is about as strong with PC people as it is with actual racists. Pretending someone isn’t black when they are IS racist. You’re implying that being black is somehow bad.

  99. merseyyank says:
    December 5, 2019 at 5:19 am
    I doubt if this was a racist statement, but it was an ignorant statement. It’s just like saying that it’s harder to hit a pitch coming out of the hand of a white baseball pitcher than it is a black or Hispanic pitcher. People always want to make excuses for losing.
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    So then let me ask, if a black commentator, said that the white pitcher had an advantage, do you think the black commentator would be fired and do you think all the white people would be losing their mind over it? Let me save you the trouble of answering that, NO!!! Need proof? Deion Sanders pretty much made the comment of how surprised he was that a white guy, Troy Apke, ran in the 40 and he not only kept his job but nobody picketed for his removal…this is what we call DOUBLE STANDARD!!!!

  100. tatupu2collins says:
    December 5, 2019 at 8:18 am
    He knows he did wrong or else he wouldn’t have apologized. He would have quit if he thought he was being unfairly treated. There is definitely a market for his original comments, as shown here. So he wouldn’t be out of work. Maybe give him credit for doing the right thing in trying to fix it.
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    Pretty sure he did it TO keep his job, regardless of whether he was right or wrong. Who are you to decide he would just up and quit his job? That’s an extreme reaction to being asked to apologize for something. It doesn’t mean he’s wrong, it means he was required to apologize as part of his job. And maybe he legitimately was sorry for inadvertently offending people, regardless of whether he felt it was wrong to say.

  101. Dark ball, dark jersey and dark skin. Contrasts play a major role in vision. Namely, to analyse movement, or to locate a specific object among multiple objects. Ryan paid the price for trying to be exhaustive in his analysis. And totally relevant, since we talk here about a fraction of a second for a defender to make a decision.
    What we have here, is a reporter, trying to decipher the magic of a player that amaze us all, including himself. Good faith by a keen observer.

  102. The good old skin camo effect. That’s why nobody can’t hit white pitchers in baseball. (Sarcastic eye roll)

    I don’t think he should have gotten suspended for telling the world he’s an idiot. But the station looks bad for hiring an idiot. It’s the age of easily accessible information and human beings have never been so stupid. Information is literally at our fingertips. But we are just too lazy and/or impatient to bother to access it. I think that means human nature is to be lazy?

  103. Wish Tim Ryan would use the opportunity to go back to Sirius and pair with Pat so we never have to hear Jim Mediocrity Miller again!

  104. It’s a perfectly valid point. I can definitely see his point of visually being more difficult to see the ball. It was in no way whatsoever intended to be racially disparaging. Yet…it falls into the realm of “Politically Incorrect” which means he must destroyed.

  105. “…..Ryan was asked in a radio appearance on Monday about what makes Jackson so hard to stop.”

    In what context was Ryan’s statement made? And what was his intent?

  106. Examine what one sportscaster said abt Los Angeles Rams WR Cooper Kupp,when he proclaimed in the 1st quarter,Kupp is “the thinking man’s WR.”

    It’s the football equivalence of the old “coach on the floor” meme used in basketball.

    Some racist don’t realize they’re saying racist stuff because it’s the ‘natural order’. Everybody knows that the idea of the thinking man’s WR is a white guy…they just do.

    Shamefully racist.

  107. I love how the commenters complaining the loudest about oversensitivity are the same ones triggered by Colin Kaepernick’s socks.

  108. boltschick says:
    December 5, 2019 at 12:15 am
    You simply cannot make a comment like that.

    It implies that Lamar’s skintone, not his talent and hard work, is the main reason he is good at fakes.

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    I don’t think he was denying his talent or hard work.

  109. It’s an honest observation with no negative connotation at all. The PC crowd has gone off the deep end……………….”lighten up Francis”.

  110. This political correctness thing has gone to far and it shouldn’t be a one way street. Welcome to the world of leaning to the left.

  111. Look whether you agree or disagree with what he said in this PC and social media world we live in its a stupid comment and should’ve never been said on a live broadcast. Also, don’t be surprised if he eventually gets fired over this.

  112. So what’s essentially being said here is that if you had orange skin, an orange football and an orange jersey, the football would be harder to see when tucked up close to your body with your arms wrapped around it.

    It’s called a low contrast ratio. And the darker the color, the less detail you’d see. This PC world we live in is absolutely insane.

  113. So much I could say on this. I see a lot of Pots calling the Kettles names on this one. Bottomline, majority needs to quit telling minorities how to feel about a subject they haven’t got a clue about. Skin color for many minorities, not all, is a sensitive subject. Minorities have been profiled and mistreated for decades due to skin color. Job discrimination, police profiling, unequal pay, and the list goes on and on. Many born into situations where they have to dig themselves out of a hole due to what was set in place before they were thought about. Is it as bad as it was years ago? Absolutely not. But it does still exist for many, and there are minorities who would take offense to that even if Lamar doesn’t. Why is it so hard to be sensitive? Saying “grow a pair” when these same people lose their mind when minority players kneel for minority injustice is at a minimum hypocritical. Just because you’re white and may not be bothered by a black commentator or player pointing out “a white boy”, as if that should make people who are sensitive to this topic feel better, doesn’t excuse the ignorance of a white commentator highlighting a player’s black skin. Educate yourself on the reason we even have race identity. Being white has always been seen as a privilege and status symbol. That hasn’t always been the case for blacks; and for many, still isn’t. Some people will never get it unless they themselves are the minority and are treated as such. You can already see that they’ll probably lose their minds just by their reactions to the thought of Liberals, Democrats, and Minorities taking over the country smh.

  114. b1gmouth says:
    December 5, 2019 at 10:43 am
    I love how the commenters complaining the loudest about oversensitivity are the same ones triggered by Colin Kaepernick’s socks.
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    Perhaps because one was from a broadcaster making a innocent, non racist observation that the PC left is whining needlessly about and the other is from a Cop Hating BIGOT….Kind of a big difference!!!!

  115. It was just a dumb thing to stay. I don’t think there was any racist intent, but still really dumb.

    If he stuck to the color of the uniforms, that would be a reasonable observation.

    If you could get the Ravens to play in white unis it would be easier to see the ball, but they won’t be doing that at home, which is where they are likely staying and the AFC will be the home team in the Super Bowl too.

  116. It’s never been a better time in America to be an actual racist. When benign comments like this get conflated as racist, it’s easy for truly racist comments, acts, and people to take cover amid the noise. Focus on what matters, the hate and discrimination we are trying to root out, and don’t waste time persecuting every comment that makes mention of a person’s skin color.

  117. The Straw Man crowd has been triggered.

    Tom Brady was not drafted until round 6 in part based on his appearance and athleticism
    Brees went in round 2 because of his height.
    Wilson went in round 3 because of his height.
    These are not racism.

    I am waiting for the “I am 5’6′ and 240 lbs and the NFL is discriminating against me by not making me a starting left tackle” or “I am slow so the NFL discriminates against me not being a Corner or a Wide Receiver.”

    Explaining away part of someones talent because of their skin color is racism.
    Its like saying the #1 salesman does not get the sales prize because he is white in a field with mostly white clients so lets give the money to someone else.

    Peyton Manning was a master of play action
    Nick Foles won a Super Bowl with RPO
    Skin color has nothing to do with it.

    The NFL is all about sales and marketing. If an employee insults someone its not about if the target themselves will actually admit to being offended. Its about everyone that hears and reads it having opinions and reactions.

    Last point: Weaksauce Baseball Analogies
    Anyone who is trying to compare people with some of the best vision and reaction time on the planet tracking split second baseball spin to seeing a football on a hand off is the king of the Straw Man. Also, lets see some video where a glove is anywhere near a baseball when it is being thrown by a pitcher.

  118. Eric Weddle said after the Ravens game that he didn’t know where the ball was most of the time. The Ravens had on Purple Jerseys that game. They put up 49 against the Bengals in White Uniforms. Aren’t the laces white on the ball? It’s just an ignorant and insensitive observation to make. Doesn’t make it racist. But it is uneducated. And for the record, many white and black radio show hosts are saying the same thing today.

  119. Remember that it was a rain game and the football was soaked and very dark…

    It IS possible to note the color of a person’s skin without it being a negative thing…I hope. The sky is blue, etc.

    My first college roommate was a great guy who would give you the shirt off his back… who just happened to be black. Does saying he is black make me a racist? He is a black man…a damned good one.

    Saying he is black might be racial…but does it HAVE to be negative? I certainly don’t mean it in a negative way. He is a better man than me in many ways.

    Smh

  120. Hockey goalies use white pads because it is harder for the players so see where the holes are between the white pads and the white ice with white boards behind.

    If Jackson can use his skin and his jersey to hide a football, good for him and his team!

    Peloton bikes, Jackson… great week…

    We live in a snowflake world.

  121. If that’s true, just think how good Trump would be if he played basketball.

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    Took me a second because I haven’t had my coffee yet.

    They would pass Trump the ball and it would just disappear.

  122. Why do we all suddenly lack the intellect to consider the intent and context of something a person says before publicly ostracizing them?

  123. magebfd says:
    December 5, 2019 at 9:40 am
    it is easy to tell who is an angry, middle aged white man and who isn’t by the comments.
    ——–
    It is even easier to tell who the racebaiter is.

  124. What this comes down to is our society is addicted to outrage. A Peloton Bike ad triggered people.Seriously? An ad for an exercise bike? I think the analyst had good intentions and it came out wrong, kinda like when Reggie white did the New Hope project speech in 98. If you don’t know about use Google. Reggie meant well but it just didn’t come across right.

    This over sensitivity is due to the fact the participation trophy generation is coming of age and they were told they were special for years and everything is an equal and level playing field for all. Which we all know in REAL life is not the case. We are a society that is caught up in Schadenfreude and piling on those who make the smallest of mistakes. It makes us feel better about our own lives if even for a night. This cancel culture has to stop.

    The announcer make an error, I get it. I think just apology to the team, the public and Ravens would have been sufficient. But suspension is warranted because our society dictates it along with the PC of social media.

    As a graphic designer its a simple thing of color and contrast ratio, how long will it take for me doing a presentation and I say the graphic is too dark and a person will get offend either because they are a person of color or some white snowflake gets offended. In this day and age accusations can ruin lives, careers and social status just by saying its true. People run with it not caring whether its true or not. Look no further than the Duke Lacrosse team.

    Political correctness is killing the greatest gift of all….communication…..human connection and conversation. How can we even begin to talk about these issues if everyone is going to get offended. Some want to be called Mexican Americans, other want to be American of Latino decent, older Black men and women prefer being called black, younger black men and women prefer African American.

    America is too caught up in groups and not looking at the bigger picture. Each group believes they are more important than the next and perceive its rich old white guys who are the problem and the scapegoat.

  125. How about Lamar is just good at his craft. I disagree with the idea the 49ers couldn’t find the ball because of his skin color. Thats just stupid. If thats the case then every black college QB or white QB with a tan for that matter that runs RPOs would do what Jackson is doing. The fact of the matter is Edwards and Ingram’s ability to gash defenses is what is fooling DEs. Tim Ryan should know this fact.

    Defenses are to stop the run first. So when the DE decides to crash on the RB, Jackson has become a master at reading to either giving it or pulling it. No more no less. So now its not about his skill set, its his skin color thats allowing him to do the things he is doing? Really? Thats where we are…Has anyone notice that the majority of folks that cry things are too PC are white guys? Yeah, women, African Americans, Chinese-Americans, Mexican-Americans etc are tired of it all and have decided to challenge the racist comments, racist jokes and the plain ol ignorant things that white men have been comfortable doing and saying forever. The gigs up. We will see if moderators block this comment or post it cuz its the truth regardless how many dislikes it gets..

  126. Oh to be Black living in America means to be reminded of it almost everyday in every way imaginable. Don’t need the majority of posters on this site to agree with me because they quickly respond with their privilege.

  127. Tim Ryan was a really good analyst on Fox. Not sure why he left Fox. I never got the impression he was racist or bigoted in any fashion. His comment was asinine though.

  128. TheGuru says:
    December 5, 2019 at 12:38 pm

    Oh to be Black living in America means to be reminded of it almost everyday in every way imaginable. Don’t need the majority of posters on this site to agree with me because they quickly respond with their privilege.
    —————————————————————

    Its comments like this that make people bitter and have resentment. What about a white kid whose dad beat him, his mother was a drunk, bullied in school because of his hair and facial features. How is this privilege? Not all white people grow up rich ya know, that’s a stereotype. What about that same kid who beat the odds and became a lawyer and uses his “privilege” to defend people pro bono?

    You cannot have a double standard.

  129. I wish more people would think before they utter their ignorance.
    The pigskin is not colored black! The ball doesn’t hide any better in Lamar’s wrist than it does in Josh Allen’s hand. It would help if someone had fat wrists but the color argument is just one of that.

  130. I very much doubt that Ryan statement was the first time knowledgeable people on the inside had the discussion. We do need great players, regardless of the color of their skin. THE BALL is the ball in any color. Why does it have to be brown?

  131. Now you can’t even make a comment like that? Nothing in that statement was racist. You don’t think black people comment on each others skin. Well they do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    This PC BS is sickening.

  132. TheGuru says:
    December 5, 2019 at 12:38 pm
    Oh to be Black living in America means to be reminded of it almost everyday in every way imaginable. Don’t need the majority of posters on this site to agree with me because they quickly respond with their privilege.
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    And yet, you responded with your own PRIVILEGE, did you not?

  133. Let me make this easy. And it is.

    The second anyone makes a statement regarding another person, that involves their skin color, the person making that comment has brought race into the conversation. It is undeniable. You can not like that it gets called out, but it is 100% fact. Mentioning a person’s skin color, as in this context brings up race. This is not a “PC” issue or being too sensitive. It’s fact. Tim Ryan brought race into this. Period. 100% fact.

    Racism’s foundation, is separating abilities based partially or solely on one’s race. Again, this is true. You don’t have to like it. But it is true. 100% fact again.

    Everything else gets into opinion and conjecture. Given the history of black QB’s in the NFL, it seems unwise (to say the least) to suggest an ability based on race, which Ryan did. Again, need I remind everyone there was a time when people of color were thought of as incapable of playing this position. Given that history and worse yet, the fact that Tim Ryan played the game, the comments were monumentally stupid.

    Further, just a reminder to my fellow white folk commenting here. You don’t get to tell people of color what is offensive or not. We’ve passed that point in time.

  134. If that were the case every qb should start wearing gloves that match the color of the football. Omg what an IDIOTIC comment made by Ryan and this coming from a guy who’s not on the Jackson bandwagon.

  135. I am not a wagon riding fan of Jackson and am very skeptical that he will be a long lasting talent in the league. That said, he’s having a remarkable year and he’s so good at faking handoffs that even when my eyes watching at home on the big screen are soley focused on him, I still lose the ball. Has zero to do with his skin color. Brady at times has done the same, with a red glove on for cryin out loud.

  136. This is why white people never talk about black people openly. Something that is meant to be an innocuous observation gets blown up into something else. If the QB was an Indian person in a shade that is close to the same as the football for example, would there be this much outrage? I think likely not. Oh well, life goes on. He should have know the reaction he would get so I suppose it’s ultimately his fault.

  137. Seems reasonable to theorize that the closer the color of the uniform and the skin is to the color of the football, the more effective fake handoffs would be.

  138. Seriously speak for yourself dude

    alottagood says:
    December 4, 2019 at 7:59 pm
    Being a black man it’s not about being overly sensitive but rather having to constantly deal with perceptions such as the one reflected in the comments made by the radio broadcaster. Many commentators feel there should not be any offense taken. To them I say consider the fact that Lamar, Vick, Cam, RG3 etc. had to play at an MVP caliber level before they were considered worthy NFL talents other than just another black Athletic QB, or that Lamar’s skin complexion is what allows him to fake the handoffs rather than them just being considered talented QBS (regardless of race) or Lamar just being very good at faking the handoffs (regardless of complexion). Lamar studied body movement and technique, and consulted with the gentleman who created the RPO to learn the techniques. It’s not about his default skin color. When you understand it from this perspective you will have an appreciation for why his comment has a far deeper And compounding impact. I commend the 49ers for having the awareness to address the incident and even to apologize to Lamar and the Ravens organization.

  139. The white anger? Now that’s racist. I think of you as that from this point forward.

    insertdumbname says:
    December 4, 2019 at 7:41 pm
    The white anger is ripe on this one. It’s not PC to ask people to be respectful about sensitive issues. It’s also an asinine comment he really didn’t need to make. The problem is that he’s taking away from this young mans natural talent by making it about his skin color. It’s absurd to think that is affecting how good he is at faking handoffs.

  140. Lamar Jackson sells the fake handoff because he’s really good at it. It’s almost like a sleight of hand trick. It has nothing to do with the color of anything and attributing it to that, even with the best of intentions, says something about the lengths people will go to avoid giving someone their due.

  141. I believe Tim Ryan to be a decent human being but in today’s America, people in public arenas should as his should know to stay away from the third-rail of race and skin color. I’m old enough to remember Boomer Esasian’s playing days in the NFL and he was one of the best ball-fake QB’s of his time and maybe even ever. Did his skin color help him to be a great ball-fake QB? I’m gonna go out on a pretty thick limb a say NOT, pale as he is and was. Ball-faking has nothing to do with skin color, but everything to do with skill, PERIOD, FULL BLEEPING STOP!!!

  142. I recently heard a broadcaster mention an offensive lineman’s weight. He should immediately be fired for fat-shaming

  143. TheGuru says:
    December 5, 2019 at 12:38 pm
    Oh to be Black living in America means to be reminded of it almost everyday in every way imaginable. Don’t need the majority of posters on this site to agree with me because they quickly respond with their privilege.
    __________________________________________________________________________________________
    Asians were and still are discriminated against in mass and yet Asians are the most succesful of all races in the USA. Is there Asian priviledge as well ?

  144. @aaronspornstash says:
    December 5, 2019 at 12:56 pm
    TheGuru says:
    December 5, 2019 at 12:38 pm

    Oh to be Black living in America means to be reminded of it almost everyday in every way imaginable. Don’t need the majority of posters on this site to agree with me because they quickly respond with their privilege.
    —————————————————————

    Its comments like this that make people bitter and have resentment. What about a white kid whose dad beat him, his mother was a drunk, bullied in school because of his hair and facial features. How is this privilege? Not all white people grow up rich ya know, that’s a stereotype. What about that same kid who beat the odds and became a lawyer and uses his “privilege” to defend people pro bono?

    You cannot have a double standard.
    ==========================================
    I appreciate your perspective. I wonder how many of the posters on here were beaten up by their dad or mom was a drunk. Probably not very many. I’m well aware of all that having grown up around some of the people you describe. I’m referring to the comments posted on here that quickly dismiss what was said…you know…the “get over it crowd”. I know you really hate when the Double Standard isn’t in your favor.

  145. December 5, 2019 at 12:38 pm
    Oh to be Black living in America means to be reminded of it almost everyday in every way imaginable. Don’t need the majority of posters on this site to agree with me because they quickly respond with their privilege.
    —————————————————-

    And yet, you responded with your own PRIVILEGE, did you not?

    __________

    You don’t understand privilege. Privilege isn’t the ability reply to your comments. Privilege is living your life not facing obstacles as a result of your skin color. You may want to rethink your reply. It makes no sense.

  146. mountaindont64 says:

    December 5, 2019 at 1:56 pm

    I recently heard a broadcaster mention an offensive lineman’s weight. He should immediately be fired for fat-shaming

    ____________

    If you need to be schooled on the history of race in this country, such that you would compare it to weight, there is little doubt in my mind, our lack of progress on race is because of people like you.

  147. @alottagood.
    “perceptions such as the one reflected in the comments made by the radio broadcaster. ”

    This is EXACTLY the problem dude. Just EXACTLY what “perception” is reflected? That the Ravens uniforms are dark, the football is brown, and having a dark Hand on said football makes it easier to play fake?

    See.. so MANY problems are caused by people like you INJECTING a meaning into something that was not there.

    You act like he said something racist. Fact is, he DID NOT. Period.

  148. this actually gets me a little heated he got suspended for stating 100% fact. please go read what he said again and tell me how exactly that is racist or implies racism. i’d be ticked and definately not apologize. As much as i hate lawyers and sueing its the only way for individuals to stop this kind of behavior from becoming the norm out of racist companies cheating you out of your wages and even worse your reputation on some fabricated PC norm.

  149. bunkmcnulty says:
    December 5, 2019 at 1:13 pm

    Further, just a reminder to my fellow white folk commenting here. You don’t get to tell people of color what is offensive or not. We’ve passed that point in time.
    ____________________________________________

    My brotha, your entire post was spot on, but this might be my favorite comment this year! Just shows how uneducated so many are. It’s always been fascinating to me how some white men, not all, accuse black people of making everything about race when they are the ones who brought race into it to begin with. And then get angry when it’s called out and begin name calling and/or playing the victim. God forbid we as a nation show compassion and understanding. Bottomline is Lamar’s skin color has nothing to do with his success running the RPO, and to say otherwise is ignorant. The only people making this about race are the analyst who said it, and the people defending him and attempting to justify what he said.

  150. TheGuru says:
    December 5, 2019 at 2:11 pm

    @aaronspornstash says:
    December 5, 2019 at 12:56 pm
    TheGuru says:
    December 5, 2019 at 12:38 pm

    Oh to be Black living in America means to be reminded of it almost everyday in every way imaginable. Don’t need the majority of posters on this site to agree with me because they quickly respond with their privilege.
    —————————————————————

    Its comments like this that make people bitter and have resentment. What about a white kid whose dad beat him, his mother was a drunk, bullied in school because of his hair and facial features. How is this privilege? Not all white people grow up rich ya know, that’s a stereotype. What about that same kid who beat the odds and became a lawyer and uses his “privilege” to defend people pro bono?

    You cannot have a double standard.
    ==========================================
    I appreciate your perspective. I wonder how many of the posters on here were beaten up by their dad or mom was a drunk. Probably not very many. I’m well aware of all that having grown up around some of the people you describe. I’m referring to the comments posted on here that quickly dismiss what was said…you know…the “get over it crowd”. I know you really hate when the Double Standard isn’t in your favor.

    ———————————————-

    My favor? Paying to get your kid into college to me is privilege and as we all found out is criminal. not all white people do it. Do not lump me in with the others. Child abuse and alcoholism go hand in hand, it was practically the norm where I grew up in families when the factories here shut down in the mid to late 80s. I never told anyone to “get over it” here or in the real world.

    People just argue to argue example you’re at a bar

    Tough Guy:
    You looking at my girl?

    Me:
    Not just looking to see where that bathroom was

    Tough Guy:
    What? You saying she’s not pretty, that’s she’s ugly?

    Me:
    Um No, just looking to find the bathroom.

    So just because dude doesn’t like me he wants to fight, simply because he doesn’t like me and making an excuse for an altercation. To me that sometimes, not all the time how racism feels.

    Cool Dude:
    Hey girl, what ya doing Friday wanna go out?

    Girl:
    No, not really, you’re not my type

    Cool Dude:
    You won’t date me because I’m black you’re a racist.

    So ya see? Thats the double standard I’m talking about.

    My father raised me to be color blind and told me as MLK did to judge a person on their character and not the color of your skin. But if I say in these times, I’m color blind and race does not matter to me its your character. Then I’m called a racist simply because I don’t acknowledge that some one is Asia, Black , Hispanic etc…..just because it doesn’t’ make a difference to me. People are people. I dont find it disrespectful, I accept people no matter what color, religion or sexual preference.

    I do believe the more colors in the world the more beautiful it is. There needs to be conversation on all sides about racial issues

  151. bunkmcnulty says:
    December 5, 2019 at 1:13 pm

    Further, just a reminder to my fellow white folk commenting here. You don’t get to tell people of color what is offensive or not. We’ve passed that point in time.

    ——————————————-

    Furthering your logic you should have no reason to be offended, since you’re white and therefore incapable of determining what’s offensive.

  152. The people that are saying that it’s an overreaction to suspend this guy for making an insensitive statement like what he said are the same ones that got butt hurt when Kaepernick sat down during the anthem.

  153. Todd Roberts says:

    December 5, 2019 at 3:53 pm

    bunkmcnulty says:
    December 5, 2019 at 1:13 pm

    Further, just a reminder to my fellow white folk commenting here. You don’t get to tell people of color what is offensive or not. We’ve passed that point in time.

    ——————————————-

    Furthering your logic you should have no reason to be offended, since you’re white and therefore incapable of determining what’s offensive.
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    That would be an illogical reply, because you are implying that I took offense to the Tim Ryan statement. Rather I provided a clear and concise description of Ryan’s comments failing into a definite “racial” category and how that is wrong. I cannot take offense to something that does not attack me. But I did identify it was wrong. There is a distinct difference. And I supplied facts as to why it is wrong.

    You need to bring more than that to tell me how I am wrong or illogical. Frankly you are on the wrong side of this discussion and you look a bit foolish trying to imply white men cannot call out other white men for being wrong on racial matters. Try again Felicia.

  154. maukey says:
    December 5, 2019 at 2:34 pm

    ‘ … Bottomline is Lamar’s skin color has nothing to do with his success running the RPO, and to say otherwise is ignorant.’

    The notion of contrast in the vision process, is very important. Ryan brought 3 elements that did contribute to the absence of contrast: ball, jersey and skin. He was just trying to be factual and exhaustive.

  155. @aaronspornstash says:
    My father raised me to be color blind and told me as MLK did to judge a person on their character and not the color of your skin. But if I say in these times, I’m color blind and race does not matter to me its your character. Then I’m called a racist simply because I don’t acknowledge that some one is Asia, Black , Hispanic etc…..just because it doesn’t’ make a difference to me. People are people. I dont find it disrespectful, I accept people no matter what color, religion or sexual preference.

    I do believe the more colors in the world the more beautiful it is. There needs to be conversation on all sides about racial issues
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    The thing about posting on any social media site is generalizing on every statement. I’m just as guilty of it as the next person, but in this medium 99% of comments are general statements. I will therefore announce that “not all white people” blah-blah. I have white in-laws, nephews and nieces. I love them dearly. But my original post was about being reminded in one way or another. It might not be directed at me, but watch the news or read the paper…it happens. It’s life in America.

  156. Brobokil says:
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    Pretty sure he did it TO keep his job, regardless of whether he was right or wrong. Who are you to decide he would just up and quit his job? That’s an extreme reaction to being asked to apologize for something. It doesn’t mean he’s wrong, it means he was required to apologize as part of his job. And maybe he legitimately was sorry for inadvertently offending people, regardless of whether he felt it was wrong to say.

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    I assume people stand by their principles. If you are one of those who doesn’t, that’s on you. Whether he wants to compromise he principles to keep his job would just indicate further moral decay. Like I said above, people make mistakes and owning up to them shows character. The other commenters here demonstrate that there is a market for his original sentiment, if that’s what he truly meant. So he would have nothing to lose by sticking to his principles, if what you believe are indeed his principles. “Sorry I offended you” isn’t a thing. That’s the classic NON-apology that shows weak character.

  157. unless you have ever been live on TV, you don’t know the pressures and quickness that some things can be said that you wish you could have reworded. He was making a valid point on contrast. Could he have worded it better, sure.

    still a tough job to be in the moment, i’m glad he wasn’t fired. Kudos to his superiors

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