Chiefs hold on for 23-16 win in New England

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Bashaud Breeland knocked away a pass to Julian Edelman on fourth down with just over a minute to play in New England to secure a 23-16 Chiefs win over the Patriots.

There figures to be a lot more attention on other things in the aftermath of the tussle between AFC division leaders. The officiating will be at the top of that list.

Officials whistled a play dead after Chiefs tight end Travis Kelce fumbled late in the third quarter, which meant Bill Belichick had to use his second and final challenge to get the call overturned to a turnover. Cornerback Stephon Gilmore might have scored on that return and wide receiver N'Keal Harry almost certainly scored on the ensuing drive, but he was ruled out of bounds and Belichick had no challenges left to overturn that call.

He also didn’t have one to use when it looked like Kendall Fuller may have interfered with Phillip Dorsett on a third down near the Chiefs end zone with 3:31 left. One can never tell what ruling pass interference replays will generate, but it would have been worth a shot.

As it was, the Patriots converted the fourth down when Tom Brady ran for 17 yards on fourth down. It was Brady’s longest run since 2014 and it gave New England four shots to get in the end zone. It didn’t work out, which means they’ve dropped to 10-3 on the season.

It’s three losses in the last five games for New England and they are all to potential playoff opponents. They’re on to Cincinnati next week before closing out the regular season with games against the Bills and Dolphins. Winning out would ensure them of a first-round bye, but moving back into the top overall seed will take two losses by the Ravens in the final three weeks.

The Chiefs clinched the AFC West and looked strong on both sides of the ball while building a 20-7 halftime lead, but there wasn’t much to like about their offense’s play in the second half. After kicking a field goal, they had a punt blocked, lost a fumble and punted twice while picking up just 28 yards. They were able to survive that on Sunday as the defense remained sturdy and the breaks went their way in New England.

213 responses to “Chiefs hold on for 23-16 win in New England

  1. Crap deal on the calls, but what matters is getting the offense fixed. And not dropping one to Cincinnati.

  2. I despise the Patriots for many reasons, but no one can question the refs favoring the Patriots after this debacle.

    Bonus points for fans boo’ing their 10-3 team. Dear god.

  3. No dog in the fight, I like both teams, but the fumble they blew dead and the Patriots receiver was in bounds when he scored and the refs said he was out… Pats got robbed.

  4. Jerome Boger having a job as a NFL referee is one of the great mysteries of this world.

    He loves being on TV. His crew calls more ticky tacky calls than any other week to week, and does not understand basic things like, don’t blow a play dead on a turnover since it will be automatically reviewed, and if you are unsure on a TD, call it a TD to allow for an automatic review.

    The Patriots are not what they used to be, but this team has heart and likely would have won this game if not for some really bad calls/no calls. They should feel good about a potential rematch in January.

  5. I rarely complain about the refs, but the Patriots were clearly and repeatedly screwed.

    The refs destroyed what could have been a great game.

  6. Stop the lame gimmick play with Edelman / Brady, stop the lame Patriots’ offense.

    Ravens now a game and a half ahead of the Patriots for the 1 seed.

    Looks like they’ll be coming to Baltimore this time around.

  7. ‘bUt tHe pATrioTs AlWayS gEt tHe cAlLs’

    Tip of the cap to KC they got enough done to win and bad calls happen to every team but it was the Pats turn to get hosed by the zebras tonight. All fans deserve better, we should be watching OT right now

  8. Pats 2-3 in their last 5. Now we all know that defense had inflated stats due to their ridiculously easy schedule.

  9. There was no need to call Harry out of bounds when the official right there signaled it a TD, as it would have automatically been reviewed and brought back if he had actually been out of bounds.

  10. Never thought I would ever say this but the refs screwed the Pats 2 plays should have been TD’s refs should have let the plays go that way it will be reviewed automatically and refs have been horrible today they need to be fined like the players

  11. Don’t cry to much Patriot fans, you’re gonna wanna save some tears after you don’t win the Super Bowl this year 🙂

  12. That was a Saints style screw job. The refs clearly get it wrong on the Kelce fumble which takes away a fumble 6. Then you have Harry obviously making it to the end zone for another 6 points. Face it Chiefs you got bailed out today. Hopefully the Pats can use this as fuel against the Bengals, but I don’t want to hear another idiot complain about the Pats getting calls again.

  13. Breland made a great play and saved that game for them. I’m still in shock that the refs didn’t fabricate some reason to throw a flag on that play like they often do for the Patriots.

  14. pocketcow says:
    December 8, 2019 at 7:55 pm
    I despise the Patriots for many reasons, but no one can question the refs favoring the Patriots after this debacle.

    “Favoring the Patriots “

    In this game )

    They literally took a TD away , he clearly didn’t go out of bounds

    Then blew the play dead on a clear fumble so NE had to use a challenge.

  15. chebornek says:
    December 8, 2019 at 7:54 pm
    That Chiefs defense wasn’t such a cupcake tonight, was it? You know you’re not the only one surprised by that.

    So is Brady.
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    If the Refs don’t screw up, the Pats win 30-23.. Enjoy it now, because once the playoffs roll around, the Chiefs will do their patented early exit…

  16. Patriots fan on most days: “winners don’t complain about the refs or injuries, blah blah blah”

    Patriots fan after literally any loss: “We have so many injuries but still should have won but the refs screwed us on these specific plays, blah blah blah”

    Rinse. Repeat. Ad nauseum

  17. The officiating was abysmal. Indisputable.

    With that said… the Pats also did just enough to lose this game. It starts up front and they’re not yet where they need to be. Oh well tip of the hat to the Chiefs. They’ll be a tough out and I think the champs will get another shot at them in a few weeks 🙂

  18. rogergoodellmyhero says:
    December 8, 2019 at 7:59 pm
    Patriots fans complaining about the refs is like Bill Gates complaining about not having enough money to buy a private jet.
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    😭😭😭😭😭😭

  19. thebirdofprey says:
    December 8, 2019 at 7:57 pm
    Have the Pats beat a winning team this year?Good thing they got the Bengals up next. May be the only game they will win the rest of the year

    They beat the Bills they have a winning record
    They beat the Cowboys and Eagles both had a winning record when they played them
    They beat the Steelers they have a winning record

    But I bet none of those count

  20. Voteforwiggsmofo says:
    December 8, 2019 at 7:56 pm
    If all scoring plays are reviewed why wasn’t the Harry TD (witch was a TD) not reviewed?

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    Because he was ruled out of bounds so there was no TD to review. Patriots would have had to challenge it, but didn’t have a challenge flag available.

  21. Chiefs didn’t hold on, they dominated that team. Belicheat got completely out coached by Andy Reid and Brady showed just how washed up he is. Fans who whine about the refs need to go back and look at the rule book and figure it out. Gilmore should have been ejected for fighting. Disgraceful, dirty play right out of the Pittsburgh play book.

  22. TimTebowGodOfFootballKarma says:
    December 8, 2019 at 8:01 pm
    Chiefs didn’t hold on, they dominated that team. Belicheat got completely out coached by Andy Reid and Brady showed just how washed up he is. Fans who whine about the refs need to go back and look at the rule book and figure it out. Gilmore should have been ejected for fighting. Disgraceful, dirty play right out of the Pittsburgh play book.

    The chiefs scored 3 points in the second half
    They “held on”

  23. The officiating was terrible but welcome to the long list of teams screwed by officiating this year. Dallas, Detroit, and New Orleans come to mind immediately. More concerning for New England has to be their offense which has regressed considerably. They will probably still be in the AFC Conference Championship game this year due to their defense and coaching but I don’t see a title run

  24. Play the world’s smallest violin for the Patriots if you want, but my God what a horrible job by the refs. These are your prime time match-ups and this is the best your officials can do? The game is getting really hard to watch.

  25. Adversity. Hatred. Dysfunction. Disrespect.

    “Don’t make us angry – you won’t like us when we are angry!” – 2019 Patriots.

    ‘Nuff said.

  26. The Patriots are getting Antonio Brown back to the team. Everyone else doubting it at this point is just delusional.

  27. This game was an embarrassment to the NFL. It would have been better refereed by a pack of twelve year olds. A billion dollar business refereed by Dollar Store Bozos.

  28. Oh well… there are only two teams going to the SB. Quite sure the Patriots is not one of them, and neither is the Chiefs.

  29. TribeOfOne says:
    December 8, 2019 at 7:56 pm
    Pats 2-3 in their last 5. Now we all know that defense had inflated stats due to their ridiculously easy schedule.

    Again they held them to 3 points in the second half.
    That’s pretty good , most would say

  30. No dog in this fight but have been hearing here lately about Brady dropping off. Have to say his OLine stinks – can’t protect him and no running game. When that happens you get very one dimensional.

  31. If the Pat’s dont go deep into the playoffs..Will TB12 leave? Seeing Emmitt Smith, Jerry Rice. Dion Sanders ect play their last games somewhere else sucked..I can’t imagine TB12 ANYWHERE else. If he stays, they need weapons bad!

  32. Voteforwiggsmofo says:
    December 8, 2019 at 7:59 pm
    thebirdofprey says:
    December 8, 2019 at 7:57 pm
    Have the Pats beat a winning team this year?Good thing they got the Bengals up next. May be the only game they will win the rest of the year

    They beat the Bills they have a winning record
    They beat the Cowboys and Eagles both had a winning record when they played them
    They beat the Steelers they have a winning record

    But I bet none of those count

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    The Steelers don’t count because you guys trashed the team before and after the game claiming they suck. So you don’t get to use them now to help your narrative

  33. Pat’s fans complaining about the refs, that’s rich, you guys have been getting the calls for the last 10 years.

  34. rogergoodellmyhero says:
    December 8, 2019 at 8:04 pm
    Look at all the Patriots fans crying and whining. Let’s take a moment and remember that they call every other fanbase a bunch of crybabies.

    #Karma
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    😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

  35. They beat the Bills they have a winning record
    They beat the Cowboys and Eagles both had a winning record when they played them
    They beat the Steelers they have a winning record

    But I bet none of those count…….
    ………
    That sure is a long winded way of saying they beat 2 teams with winning records, the Steelers and the Bills.

  36. Now the Patriot fans know what it like to be screwed over by officiating!! For the first time in many years the BIG calls went away from the Patriots favor.
    However, when you have such a huge difference in overall calls I still say the Patriots get the advantage
    10 for 135 against the Chiefs
    5 for 25 against the Pats
    Yea there were a few big ones that the Pats got screwed over on, but if we are being honest here, the better team on this Sunday won that game today.

  37. Terrible officiating both ways the entire game & I’m a Chiefs fan. I hate that the 2 worst calls cost the Pats a TD but no one can’t change it. Also a realist and the AFC runs through Baltimore this year. We were fortunate to catch them earl in the year, if there’s a rematch in the playoffs it will be a much tougher game.

  38. comment674054559 says:
    December 8, 2019 at 8:03 pm
    “Play the world’s smallest violin for the Patriots if you want, but my God what a horrible job by the refs. These are your prime time match-ups and this is the best your officials can do? The game is getting really hard to watch.”

    That is a very, Very Good Point.
    Actually Several Good Points.
    The refs and half-wit rules committee is making the game Really Hard to Watch.
    I actually watch Far fewer games than I used to. Great Points!

  39. Cluelessness and incompetence of the refs tonight was truly embarrassing. Reflection of what we have been seing all year. NFL is a multi billion $ business with huge gambling implications. These part time refs are paid peanuts compared to gambling stakes. Fans make more money on fanduel or draftkings. Are refs bank accounts monitored? Really difficult to follow the logic of the NFL considering the financial implications and impact on the quality of the product. This game should be in OT.

  40. Since you people wanna cry and moan about blown calls… Clearly Kelce’s forward progress was stopped after he’d gained the first down…then he was gang tackled and pushed sideways and backwards – when he fumbled the ball.

    I’ve seen that type of play blown dead after the receiver gains the yardage for the 1st down.

    Not in New England is that ever going to be called.

    Best team won tonight. Deal with it.

  41. Big games like this need to be called fairly. It just feels like fans are cheated when multiple big calls go against 1 team. NE lost that spot of the ball challenge, looked like the ball didnt make it even close to the 40. Refs blew a Fumble/Return TD dead, forcing NE to use another challenge. Then they called the receiver out, when they were right there to make the right call. Those all cost NE points, time and timeouts.

  42. If you get within ten feet of Tommy it’s a penalty. Pat’s fans have a lot of guts
    complaining. Maybe Gilmore forgot to shake hands with the refs before the game.

  43. Pats held the Chiefs to a field goal in the second half. Bill made a mistake on the use of one of his replays but I can understand it in the heat of the moment. Offensive line is not good and prior gameplans to get the ball out of Brady’s hands quicker aren’t there. No excuses, offense is not good by any means and if they can’t figure something out in a few weeks other than gimmick plays, we’ll be done. Which will be a waste of a very good defense..

  44. vancouversportsbro says:
    December 8, 2019 at 7:58 pm
    Boo hoo. They dont even look like a good team. Brady is old and even belicheat looks near dementia with his poor challenges
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    2nd and goal…
    Still eats at you 12’s like an acid. We wouldn’t have it any other way

  45. The Pats played poorly in the the first half and played well enough to win in the second half. If not for some absolutely abysmal officiating by the NFL’s worst crew, this might either be in OT or up for a whopper of a defensive finish. Blowing the fumble dead is a cardinal sin. 500 drunks in a bar know you let that play out just like you rule the Harry play a TD and review it to see if he was OB. Breeland clearly held Edelman in the start of the route on that 4th down and he went over the top of him (and contacted his helmet) on that last play. The funny thing is that isn’t even on the table if the refs don’t screw up the TD’s and the game is 23-20 like it should have been. It sucks to lose this way, but the Pats win out and they are still the 2 seed. I think even if they lose to the Bills and win out they might win the AFC East.

  46. Hahahaha the salty tears of crying Patsie fans taste so sweet. Hilarious the Patsies are whining about the officials, no team has benefited more from blown calls than New England. Maybe you should have put up more than 3 points the first half.

  47. thebirdofprey says:
    December 8, 2019 at 7:57 pm
    Have the Pats beat a winning team this year?Good thing they got the Bengals up next. May be the only game they will win the rest of the year.
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    I know they’re not well known teams, but the Patriots beat the 9-3 Bills in Buffalo and 7-5 Steelers when all their starters were healthy.

  48. Big time games need big time refs. Jerome ain’t that. The only reason BB was out of challenges for the Harry TD was because they marked the ball at the 40 and were stubborn about it. No human on Earth thinks that ball shoulda been on the 40. Nobody even knows what challenges are for anymore.

  49. We have seen a shift, the NFL has ordered its Refs to help Mahomes now that Brady is getting old.

    Pats fans what you went through today is what the rest of the league has dealt with for years facing the patriots.

    doesnt feel good does it?

  50. so if the Pats always get the calls I wonder what happened tonight? Did the league decide today was the day it all changed??? I wonder….or maybe just maybe it is was made up nonsense

  51. chebornek says:
    December 8, 2019 at 8:14 pm
    Since you people wanna cry and moan about blown calls… Clearly Kelce’s forward progress was stopped after he’d gained the first down…then he was gang tackled and pushed sideways and backwards – when he fumbled the ball.

    I’ve seen that type of play blown dead after the receiver gains the yardage for the 1st down.

    Not in New England is that ever going to be called.

    Best team won tonight. Deal with it.

    No guy , when you run back on your own your “forward progress “ is not stoped

    And yes that’s exactly what he did

  52. After all the bias officiating I have watched over the years that blatantly favored the Patriots, I don’t want to hear one thing about bad calls costing them the game. I’m always told that “good teams overcome the officials” and that I shouldn’t whine when the Chiefs get screwed by bad calls, so you get no sympathy. The Patriots still had their chances and couldn’t pull it out. Plenty of BS calls went against KC too. It was just a horribly officiated game all around.

    The Chiefs defense was terrific and they deserved to win this game any way you slice it.
    While this was nice, it means nothing if they can’t do it a second time in January. Nobody is going to remember this game if the Patriots just end up beating them in the playoffs again.

  53. commentawaitingdeletion says:
    December 8, 2019 at 7:56 pm
    ‘bUt tHe pATrioTs AlWayS gEt tHe cAlLs’
    Tip of the cap to KC they got enough done to win and bad calls happen to every team but it was the Pats turn to get hosed by the zebras tonight. All fans deserve better, we should be watching OT right now
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    A lot of people are fine with terrible officiating when it goes against the Patriots. In those cases, mistakes are accepted. When it happens to their team, though, it’s terrible and part of a conspiracy.

  54. zonkerharris213 says:
    December 8, 2019 at 7:55 pm
    I rarely complain about the refs, but the Patriots were clearly and repeatedly screwed.

    The refs destroyed what could have been a great game.

    This.

  55. buttfumbles says:
    December 8, 2019 at 8:20 pm
    Big whoop Pats beat two winning teams and swept an entire division with no winning teams

    Again , they can only play whose on the schedule
    If you don’t understand or know how the NFL does the scheduling then stop complaining

  56. Imagine if Brady was pushed to the ground out of bounds the way Mahomes was? There would be flags everywhere! In the playoff game
    last year the Chiefs got a roughing the passer for touching Tom’s shoulder.

    So please cry me a river about the bad calls. NE has had it going way for almost 2 decades. Too bad so sad for the Patsies.

    But for real the Refs ate frigging horrible and it is good to see NE get bit just like every other team by the crappy officiating.

  57. Stop your crying writter. There were numerous calls including blatant face mask that were not called in the Chiefs favor.

    Maybe score more pints next time.

    P.S. Tom Brady does not like to be touched. Tonight, he got the “Bonus Plan.”

  58. Hey pats fan 820 remember two years ago in AFC title game when jags got screwed same way when play was whistld dead and they would have put u guys away?? Deal with it as for today i seen at least 2 roughing the passer plays not called,1 was flagged and stupidly licked up and 1 not called and a very late hit on mahomes out of bounds not called,those could have led to field goals at least,so quit the crying also in Kc/titan playoff game chiefs had whistle blow a defensive td called back that would have put titans away!

  59. daphne49er says:
    December 8, 2019 at 8:15 pm
    Yeah, Patriots. That’s what getting hosed on officiating feels like. Now you know.

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    Now we know? We have been dealing with Goodell’s manufactured
    cheating for years.

    Pats fans can rattle of specific games with late 4th qtr creepy calls like this, about 12 games or so deep, and that doesn’t even count games
    NE won where they over-came attempted Goodell bagjobs to get the opponent back into it.

    Try again.

    You people see what you want to see.

  60. The officiating was terrible but welcome to the long list of teams screwed by officiating this year. Dallas, Detroit, and New Orleans come to mind immediately. More concerning for New England has to be their offense which has regressed considerably. They will probably still be in the AFC Conference Championship game this year due to their defense and coaching but I don’t see a title run

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    It’s not a title run every year for New England … it averages out to be every other year in Brady/Belichick era. The offense doesn’t look like it will correct itself in time this year. Patriots will likely take their lumps this year and regroup. It’s a credit to them be to in SB contention for as long as they have. Just look at other SB teams, winners and loser. Other than the Patriots and a 2 year stretch run by Seahawks, no other team really makes it back to the SB the next year. It’s amazing Patriots were in 4 of the 5.

  61. statman25 says:
    December 8, 2019 at 8:11 pm

    Terrible officiating both ways the entire game & I’m a Chiefs fan. I hate that the 2 worst calls cost the Pats a TD but no one can’t change it. Also a realist and the AFC runs through Baltimore this year. We were fortunate to catch them earl in the year, if there’s a rematch in the playoffs it will be a much tougher game.
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    I think you’re right on pretty much all of these points.

  62. Lets cue up the Patriots fans whining about miss calls in 5.4.3.2.. now they know what its like for the OTHER TEAMS who have been on the other side of those calls for close to 2 Decades. These were the penalty calls in todays game

    Kansas City: 10 accepted penalties, 136 yards, 15 flags
    New England: 5 accepted penalties, 25 yards, 5 flags
    Total: 15 accepted penalties, 161 yards, 20 flags

    If nothing else the patriots need to thank Andy Reid for making this game close to begin with because if the chiefs had any Coach with STONES the chiefs win this comfortably by 4 scores.

    We saw Andy Reid start playing defense for the patriots by shutting down Mahomes and that Chiefs offense the minute they got up 20-7 where he now gets hook with the CLOCK by coaching NOT TO LOSE, Thats a terrible way to live and you talk about WASTING TALENT.

    For Mahomes FANS around the GLOBE Andy Reid is their worse NIGHTMARE.

  63. romeisfallingagain says:
    December 8, 2019 at 8:24 pm
    After all the bias officiating I have watched over the years that blatantly favored the Patriots, I don’t want to hear one thing about bad calls costing them the game. I’m always told that “good teams overcome the officials” and that I shouldn’t whine when the Chiefs get screwed by bad calls, so you get no sympathy. The Patriots still had their chances and couldn’t pull it out. Plenty of BS calls went against KC too. It was just a horribly officiated game all around.

    The Chiefs defense was terrific and they deserved to win this game any way you slice it.
    While this was nice, it means nothing if they can’t do it a second time in January. Nobody is going to remember this game if the Patriots just end up beating them in the playoffs again.

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    There were 4 100% missed calls late in the game!! They also made sure BB had no challenges left because they lied and didn’t overturn the spot call that was clearly botched. So, you are applauding game
    altering calls, many of them, and claiming NE “must overcome” all of them.

    Pathetic.

  64. davidsoria175yahoocom says:
    December 8, 2019 at 8:27 pm
    Hey pats fan 820 remember two years ago in AFC title game when jags got screwed same way when play was whistld dead and they would have put u guys away?? Deal with it as for today i seen at least 2 roughing the passer plays not called,1 was flagged and stupidly licked up and 1 not called and a very late hit on mahomes out of bounds not called,those could have led to field goals at least,so quit the crying also in Kc/titan playoff game chiefs had whistle blow a defensive td called back that would have put titans away!

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    Umm, it wasn’t even a fumble. Dion Lewis repossesed the ball and was down.You people can’t even tell when Goodell gets caught cheating with the refs not knowing the rules. Or, are they really in the process of cheating/manufacturing against NE, that THAT is why it looks so bad?

    How can officiating at the pro level be this bad or are the refs given orders to do it, which is why?

    Hmmmmmm…

  65. Doesn’t matter there isn’t a team in the AFC that can win in New England come playoff time..No one including that overrated Lamar Chump Jackson!!

  66. Pats didn’t get the officiating advantage today.

    1 game vs. close to 20 years. It’s hard to feel too bad about it.

  67. nelly837 says:
    December 8, 2019 at 8:19 pm
    Hahahaha the salty tears of crying Patsie fans taste so sweet. Hilarious the Patsies are whining about the officials, no team has benefited more from blown calls than New England. Maybe you should have put up more than 3 points the first half.
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    They scored seven, Mr. Math.

  68. Shove it Pats fans. You guys relish getting calls all the time. Yeah they blew the calls, but so many other teams have been shafted by the refs when they played you, so don’t start whining.

  69. Voteforwiggsmofo says:
    December 8, 2019 at 8:13 pm

    grant35 says:
    December 8, 2019 at 8:11 pm
    Loved seeing Brady try to get in that KC linemans face. Such a tough guy, that Tommy. LOL
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    Good to see an actual Chief in his face rather them a laser pointer. Stay classy KC!

  70. It’s pretty rich reading Pat’s fans complain about the refs. They only reason they were even in the game was the refs made sure KC didn’t run away with it in the first half. How many penalties did KC have that either killed drives or extend NE drives. Yes, the TD call was bad but if the “genius” Bellichek doesn’t challenge the spot call, that he was never going to win, he would have had a challenge left. It’s been a long tome, but NE just isn’t very good this year. Definitely benefiting from an easy schedule. If not for the refs the Patriots probably lose to Dallas. Think about that….

  71. The irony is Belichick was forced to stand on the sideline helplessly because it was he who mismanaged the clock for once.

  72. G Mmm says:
    December 8, 2019 at 8:42 pm
    The irony is Belichick was forced to stand on the sideline helplessly because it was he who mismanaged the clock for once.
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    WTH are you talking about, clock management? When did this “mismanagement “ happen? Which game were you watching?

  73. Is it my imagination or does some of TyLawPickSix postings seem like Antonio Browns’ stream-of-consciousness rants? Between the phantom Goodell conspiracies & the scattershot grammar, it appears Burfict may have belted TyLaw, too.

  74. Funny!!!! This article says nothing about no flags being thrown when Mahomes got blasted out of bounds. Even Romo was calling for a flag.

  75. John Henry’s Hammer says:
    December 8, 2019 at 8:41 pm
    It’s pretty rich reading Pat’s fans complain about the refs. They only reason they were even in the game was the refs made sure KC didn’t run away with it in the first half. How many penalties did KC have that either killed drives or extend NE drives. Yes, the TD call was bad but if the “genius” Bellichek doesn’t challenge the spot call, that he was never going to win, he would have had a challenge left. It’s been a long tome, but NE just isn’t very good this year. Definitely benefiting from an easy schedule. If not for the refs the Patriots probably lose to Dallas. Think about that….

    You want to know why comments like this are dumb?

    Any time there is a penalty they show the replay and you can usually see why it was called based on the rule.

    Can you tell us what was a “bad call “ that extended a drive for NE ?
    Just one ?

  76. Pat’s need a top receiver
    Ref’need bi-focals
    BB has made far to many bad calls this year regarding talent
    Brady deserves better
    but Kraft and BB are unforgiving, just rich dudes playing with peoples lives

  77. So because the Patriots finally got some bad calls, for one game, that’s supposed to wipe out all of the other times they got the benefit of a call? I don’t think so. Now the Patriots and their fans finally know what its like to be the fan of any team playing the patriots. We all know that if its a 50/50 call the Pats will get it. No doubt they got hosed but stop behaving like every other team doesn’t get hosed weekly.

  78. The biggest PFT mystery: how does the pet get to post first to so many Pats threads. Does he get a pre-feed and all the rest of us are on a time delay?

    Patriots played a particularly weak 2nd quarter, so, yes the refs screwed them but they put themselves in a whole just like they did in Houston.

    Glad to see how hard and smart they fought in the 2nd half. The blocked kick, the forced fumble, pass rush and passing game made it a dogfight that just came up short.

  79. Brady barely scored 16 points against the awful chiefs defense which is one of the worst in the nfl. Lol.😬
    Brady fanboys won’t admit that a 43 year old brady is old and washed up. Blame everyone but him. Smh

  80. Vote…..

    The very first PI call was a bad call and extended a drive that ended in a TD. The also killed a KC drive by the awful Kelce offensive PI call. The penalties were 10 for 136 to 5 for 25…. the called 2 penalties against NE that should have stayed that the head ref called off. The 4th quarter featured bad calls, but again if Bill didn’t challenge a play he wasn’t going to win, it would have been a touchdown.

  81. No dog in this fight, but KC got handed the win in this one. Don’t know what would have happened had it went into OT in a tie, but because of these dead beat officials, nobody will ever know.

  82. redandgoldhitman52 says:
    December 8, 2019 at 8:57 pm
    Brady barely scored 16 points against the awful chiefs defense which is one of the worst in the nfl. Lol.😬
    Brady fanboys won’t admit that a 43 year old brady is old and washed up. Blame everyone but


    Yeah , the “Brady fanboys” and Tony Romo and all the other former PLAYERS who are now analyzing the games.

    None of them know what they are talking about.

  83. If you include the two TD’s taken away by the officials,the Patriots win this game. Yes,they still look like crap on offense,but they were definitely robbed today.

  84. Complaining is pointless. That said, if the goal is to get the call correct, on the Harry no-TD call (the Patriots couldn’t challenge and only plays called a TD on the field can be automatically reviewed), why wouldn’t the refs just call it a TD to give themselves the opportunity to review and see if he did indeed step out of bounds? Or better yet, why doesn’t the league just change that rule so that if it’s a call that negates a potential touchdown it falls under the jurisdiction of automatic review?

  85. patsfan1820 says:
    December 8, 2019 at 7:57 pm
    That was a Saints style screw job. The refs clearly get it wrong on the Kelce fumble which takes away a fumble 6. Then you have Harry obviously making it to the end zone for another 6 points. Face it Chiefs you got bailed out today. Hopefully the Pats can use this as fuel against the Bengals, but I don’t want to hear another idiot complain about the Pats getting calls again.

    @@@@@@@@@@@222

    mmmmmmmm, I thought BB and all pat fan say you should make the plays and don’t let the refs decide the game. I guess the shoe was on the other foot.

  86. There was an ENTIRE game THIS SEASON where NOT 1 flag was called or thrown against Pats….

    ’nuff said

    Its fixed for Patsies

  87. Brady should retire after this year. You will be seeing a slow decline of the oldest team in the league while the Ravens and Jackson rise. Changing of the guard.

  88. Some comments above that are clearly irrational:

    1. Every other team gets screwed by the refs every week

    By definition, you have to lose to be screwed, and to have a reasonable chance of winning if the call(s) didn’t go against your team.

    2. Mahomes was blasted out of bounds with no call

    I know Romo harped about it but Hightower clearly hit him while still on the field of play. He’s a runner at that point, not a QB.

    3. The Patriots deserve the bad call at key junctures because the usually get calls their way.

    Two wrongs don’t make a right bur the premise that the refs favorIng the Pats, leading to a 20 year dynasty, breaks all laws of statistical probability. It’s more likely we will be visited by extra terrestrials.

  89. tylawspick6 says:
    December 8, 2019 at 8:35 pm

    Umm, it wasn’t even a fumble. Dion Lewis repossesed the ball and was down.

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    That’s what’s so entertaining about the complaints about that play. If you watch it, Lewis is down by contact with the ball pinned to his hip. It could have been ruled Patriots ball, but they gave possession to Jacksonville. But being awarded a fumble when the runner was down wasn’t good enough. The Jaguars should have been gifted a TD, also. Here’s why Jacksonville lost that game: They had a 10 point lead with 13 minutes left in the game and punted on 3 straight possessions. Forgot about scoring points, go on a sustained drive on any of those possessions and they win. It’s easier to cry about not being awarded a TD, though.

  90. Can not belief there were boos heading into halftime- I would love my team to be 10-3. Boston is spoiled – wait a few years and you’ll dream of these types of seasons.

  91. pologroundsvet says:
    December 8, 2019 at 9:15 pm
    Pats need a receiver. Time to kiss and make up with Antonio Brown.

    They can kiss and make up all they want to. The NFL still has not cleared Antonio Brown to play.

  92. The real issue isnt the Patriots or any other team its the system where refs are getting it wrong changing the course of the game.
    The nfl has to implement punishment, and re training for constant mistakes.therenhas to be a price to pay.

  93. Brady is old and done with the team. They have no weapons. They can’t run the ball. The defense is overrated. They can no longer win a big game at home.

    Please, count out the Patriots.

    Just like you did when they went 9-7 in 2002. Just like you did when they went 18-1. Just like you did when they were down 28-3. Just like you did when they lost to Eagles in SB52. Just like you did so many other times before.

  94. jagsfan1 says:
    December 8, 2019 at 9:19 pm
    There was an ENTIRE game THIS SEASON where NOT 1 flag was called or thrown against Pats….

    ’nuff said

    Its fixed for Patsies

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    Is that why the Chiefs walked off with the W ?

  95. paulbinson says:
    December 8, 2019 at 9:33 pm
    Can not belief there were boos heading into halftime- I would love my team to be 10-3. Boston is spoiled – wait a few years and you’ll dream of these types of seasons.

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    What does this have to do with a poor first half by the offense deserving to be booed and the Chiefs only able to beat NE by cheating via Goodell?

  96. How many Pats fans absolutely loved how fired up Brady was after he rushed for that first down? But you criticize Cam Newton when he does it. Hmmm, I wonder why…

  97. it was a historic run, will never be replicated but it’s finally over. Pats are still a good team but they’re just another good team, nothing special and Brady has seen his last superbowl…finally.

  98. Mahomes was in bounds when he was shoved, good no call.

    4 horrendous calls against Pats in 2nd half…

    1. Obvious fumble could have been returned for TD, Belichick wins challenge but has to settle for 3.
    2. Chiefs pass ruled first down, Belichick challenges and inexplicably it’s not ruled short. Horrible review. Now Pats out of challenges on 2 terrible calls.
    3. Harry scores TD, never went out of bounds. It’s one thing to miss a call but to call someone out of bounds when they were not is awful officiating. Pats have no challenges and have to settle for 3 again.
    4. Dorsett clearly mugged inside 5 yard line. No challenges again. Cost Pats time and field position. Total blown no call.

    These teams are locked to play again in Foxboro in Division. KC needed a bunch of bad calls today for sure.

  99. John Henry’s Hammer says:
    December 8, 2019 at 8:41 pm
    Yes, the TD call was bad but if the “genius” Bellichek doesn’t challenge the spot call, that he was never going to win, he would have had a challenge left.
    ————
    Umm, did you look at the replay? We never did get an explanation as to why the spot and first down were not overturned. Replay clearly showed forward progress a yard from the spot and just shy of the amount to gain.

  100. The fact that the Pats got screwed …. so what! How many have they screwed?

    The bottom line is their fans now resort to “what if’s” to explain how they could’ve won.

    The offense stinks, and nobody wants to say it’s Brady. The rest of us have had to hear for a decade or more now about how Tom can win with anybody. Well guess what it’s over. He was great for a long time. All good things come to an end. The end is here. They can’t beat good teams.

    It’s sad to watch him just throw away 15 passes per game. 3-4 of which should clearly be grounding.

  101. howboutthosechiefs says:
    December 8, 2019 at 8:51 pm
    Funny!!!! This article says nothing about no flags being thrown when Mahomes got blasted out of bounds.
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    Because he was still INbounds when he was pushed…

  102. I’m not gonna blame the refs for this one. Then I would be Sean Payton. The patriots simply look like they don’t have what it’s going to take to win the Super Bowl this year. Of course, that’s what most of the NFL and its followers were saying last year at this time. For a team that is pretty out-manned, at this point, they continue to play with a lot of heart and resilience. Navigate to see how far they can take them.

  103. It was enjoyable watching Belichick intimidating the officials in the second half, but that and Brady whining still could not pull off a win against the Chiefs. in the magical stadium.

  104. Usually, NE is able to overcome the blatant missed calls and biased officiating. But overcoming the refs taking away 3 obvious TDs is tough for any team.

  105. blah dontae Patriots fans equally agree the refs made mistakes in favor of the Pat’s that also altered the game. An offensive pi that clearly was not. Roughing the passer that was waived off because he was on the side after replay shows that wasnt the case. unnecessary hit by Hightower’s on mahomes out of bounds… It goes both ways. accept the two game losing streak and move on.

  106. From the beginning of the season, when Tyreek Hill got no discipline for having his child removed from his home, with no visitation, I knew the NFL had this year rigged for the Chiefs. Tonight confirmed that.

  107. Pats fans complaining about the officiating after a decade of telling the rest of the league that they were just whining because they couldn’t match up with the almighty Pats. Just delicious. Welcome back to the real world.

  108. It appears that the Patriots dynasty is coming to an end. The cupcake schedule to start the season hid a lot of their flaws. They’re just not that good and Brady is old. Time to retire. Good riddance.

  109. Chiefs took a couple three obvious bad calls in the 1st quarter to help the Patriots get the first TD.

    No fan of the refs but get a sky judge. If you can clearly see the bad calls on the tube…well just do it.

  110. Whatever, we lost. Some positive in that game. The team has some fight in them. Responded well to the boos in my opinion.

    On to Cincinnati…

  111. I’m a Chiefs fan and I hate the Patriots, but their fans that booed them today are ungrateful jerks. That team has given them more joy than any sports team ever. Patriots fans are a joke

  112. So the Tuck Rule groupies claim the refs were clearly biased against the Patsies. Umm, let’s see.

    Penalties: NE 5/25 yds. KC 10/136 yds, including a phantom OPI against Kelce and a phantom crack back block against the O line. Yes, the officiating was bad, but it was bad for both teams.

    Whoo, hoo, Brady rushed for a first down. There was no one in front of him for 30 yards. I can barely walk up the stairs, but *I* could have ran for that first down.

    The Patriots’ early record was padded by a schedule full of bottom feeders. Now that they’re playing the big boys, they’re having trouble competing. Are they finished? Not at all, but they will need major improvements on both sides of the ball to go far in January.

  113. I’m an Eagles fan who was sometimes driven crazy by Andy Reid’s game management, but also respect the overall contributions that he made to our franchise. Andy, this year is one of your best opportunities to get your first Lombardi as a head coach, GET IT!

  114. But we won’t talk about the blatant PI call that was missed in the recent SB.

    The refs always have an easy whistle on those types of plays. This is nothing new and it’s nice to see the shoe on the other foot for a change.

  115. It’s a great day for fans of all those team who’ve been getting slapped around for 20 years by the greatest team, coach and QB. And the bonus is you had Boger to thank for it. Be proud, and worried. You can say KC dominated but go look back. One TD on a fluke 2-25 play. 1 definite TD stolen, forced to use a flag on a play where the receiver was clearly nowhere near a first down. KC was lucky to escape with a win.

  116. What many posters miss is that the refs made two calls that go against their training. They blew whistles on a turnover and An apparent TD because they guessed wrong. You can’t fix those mistakes with replay.

    They should have let both play out and let an automatic replay (KC wouldn’t have to ask for it) confirm or overturn. Replay would have clearly confirmed both. If you want to say that would expose KC to a risk of a “too close to overturn” I would say if it was too close the refs shouldn’t take away two big plays.

    The Patriots lost field position, points and time. They at least got possession on the turnover but losing two challenges (one on a bad spot and the other on the missed fumble) left them without challenges left on the clear Harry TD that was called out of bounds and on a clear and obvious PI against Dorsett that cost them time and field position on their last drive.

    Refs make mistakes. It is part of the game. The difference on the fumble and TD denied is that the refs did not follow best practices and let proper procedures get it right.

  117. Next man up….. do your job ……. funny those were the battle cries for years : just plug a guy in and never miss a beat ….. hysterical when karma tears it’s head and all that nonsense doesn’t work anymore

  118. No worries for Pats. They still got two cupcake games against the Bengals and Fish. 13-3 doesnt suck.

  119. 6burgh says:
    December 8, 2019 at 8:07 pm
    The Steelers don’t count because you guys trashed the team before and after the game claiming they suck. So you don’t get to use them now to help your narrative
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    Pats fans still trash them but that still does little to change their record. Pretty sure if you go back and look the question about the Pats beating a team with a winning record wasn’t qualified with did you trash their team before\after the game. 😉

  120. chebornek says:
    December 8, 2019 at 8:14 pm
    Since you people wanna cry and moan about blown calls… Clearly Kelce’s forward progress was stopped after he’d gained the first down…then he was gang tackled and pushed sideways and backwards – when he fumbled the ball.

    I’ve seen that type of play blown dead after the receiver gains the yardage for the 1st down.

    Not in New England is that ever going to be called.

    Best team won tonight. Deal with it.
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    Seriously? Just stop already. There’s no angle that showed forward progress was stopped. If anything it showed Kelce moved backwards on his own. The better team may have won but that was 100% a blown call. Full stop. It’s patently ridiculous to even suggest otherwise.

  121. One thing we can always count on week after week … fans complaining about the refs and telling other fans to wipe up their tears. Not fans demanding better … fans calling out other fans.

    This product stinks and has for awhile now. Quite simply, the only thing fans are accountable for is being content with it.

  122. Lots of Pats fans whining about the refs. The very same fans that made dumb statements about the Saints fans now know what it feels like to be screwed……so shut up. No mention of the non call on a hit out of bounds on Mahomes…….selective memory or just be typical hypocritical Pats fanboys?

    One of the worst jobs by the refs I have seen but am very happy it happened to a team that always gets the phantom calls to win…..the tears and the booing are hilarious to watch from the Pats fans…..wait till Brady is gone if you think this is bad.

  123. bradygirl12 says:
    December 8, 2019 at 9:08 pm
    If you include the two TD’s taken away by the officials,the Patriots win this game. Yes,they still look like crap on offense,but they were definitely robbed today.
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    Since they were gifted their first TD by bad calls against the Chiefs I think you are off on this one. But let me ask you this:

    Did the refs squander both coaches challenges in the first half and not have one when the Pats REALLY needed one?

    Did the refs drop the TD pass on the very next play?

    Did the refs throw the interception?

    Did the refs run for less than 100 yds against the 30th rushing defense in the NFL?

    How many games do you expect to win in the playoffs when your offense needs bad calls, missed calls or non-calls to score more than 16 points?

    Since the “tuck” your team that has reaped more benefits from the refs than any other team in the NFL. But man you guys whine more than any other team when it doesn’t go your way.

  124. Pats lost, but now have seen three potential playoff opponents. Even the 1980 US Hockey team got smoked 10-3 by the Soviets before defeating them in the Olympics. A few calls get made correctly (or called correctly and verified with review)and the game is closer, maybe even a win. Pats need to hang on for the playoffs, then everyone is 0-0 again.

  125. Patriot tears are delicious. After nearly 2 decades of the Patriots getting the call EVERY time by the ref’s, it was nice to see them get hosed by a few calls. But quit your whining, there were plenty of non-calls that went both ways. No roughing the passer when they hit Mahomes a couple of times, and that scrum out of bounds should also have been a 15 yarder against the Patriots–to name a few.

  126. This Chiefs Team Is Good But New England Still Have Chances To Come Back And Go To Miami To The Super Bowl But Nkeal Harry SHOULD OF GOT THOSE TDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  127. Very bad call, but what is being overlooked is the Pats SHOULD have scored a TD after the blown call.

  128. Mookie says:
    December 9, 2019 at 8:49 am
    Patriot tears are delicious.

    The Pats will end up 13-3 as they work on what they need to fix to win in the playoffs. No tears. Sure, they were outright robbed of 2 touchdowns last night. They weren’t going to be the #1 seed anyway. Just figure it out with what you have on offense. Get some momentum. They haven’t lost 3 games in a row since 2002, and won’t now.

    On to Cincinnati.

  129. My Thoughts about last night game are as follows:
    Given the Ref’s and calls/non calls, NE is still weaker this season on Offense than in prior years. When Harry’s TD was called back, and you are given 4 tries to get in from the 3 yard line and you come away with 3 points that says a lot.

    I do however love the adjustments made on both sides of the ball in the second half. Limiting KC to 3 points while moving the ball and brining the game closer in the last quarter than at ay time earlier in the game are positives to build on. Plus the chippy-ness that was going on in the second half was good to see.

    Good stuff to feed on going into the next 3 weeks.

    However… with all that said…

    We still need better separation from our wide receivers more often.

    We need better line push for our running plays, at 3 yards per carry, that won’t cut it in the playoffs.

    We need to protect Tom Brady with better pass protection. ( which goes hand in hand with better WR separation)Getting open quicker will help Tom get the ball out faster.

    As for the defense, well that group along with special teams are doing more than their fair share. With time of possession in favor of the opponent’s offence in these kinds of games,that means the defense is out there longer, and this is the NFL and they are paid professionals and they will score at some point given more opportunity.

    We are on to Cincinnati

  130. kcflake says:
    December 8, 2019 at 11:11 pm
    I’m a Chiefs fan and I hate the Patriots, but their fans that booed them today are ungrateful jerks. That team has given them more joy than any sports team ever. Patriots fans are a joke

    ___________________________

    We aren’t ALL that way. The Patriots have spoiled us,and there are more of us who appreciate what they have done over the years than there are the jerks who boo them when it’s not going well.

  131. It’s a great day for fans of all those team who’ve been getting slapped around for 20 years by the greatest team, coach and QB. And the bonus is you had Boger to thank for it. Be proud, and worried. You can say KC dominated but go look back. One TD on a fluke 2-25 play. 1 definite TD stolen, forced to use a flag on a play where the receiver was clearly nowhere near a first down. KC was lucky to escape with a win.

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    Sounds like a bunch of excuses to me. But you seem to have overlooked a dirty out of bounds hit on Mahomes that had it been Brady would surely have been called. Funny just how outrageously biased you fanboys are…..glad you lost.

  132. ikeclanton says:
    December 9, 2019 at 9:39 am
    Mookie says:
    December 9, 2019 at 8:49 am
    Patriot tears are delicious.

    The Pats will end up 13-3 as they work on what they need to fix to win in the playoffs. No tears. Sure, they were outright robbed of 2 touchdowns last night. They weren’t going to be the #1 seed anyway. Just figure it out with what you have on offense. Get some momentum. They haven’t lost 3 games in a row since 2002, and won’t now.

    On to Cincinnati.

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    McDaniels is done in NE and honestly the McD/Brady relationship has clearly run its course. McD enables Brady and doesn’t push him enough since they’re friends off the field. It’s always been a problem, really.

    It’s amazing to me how great the D was in the second half last night and Goodell’s henchmen bamboozled the Pats, stealing the game right out from under them by changing rules during the game to help KC at every turn to offset NE’s shifting of momentum.

    But, yeah, without Brady and McD getting their heads out of their butt, they won’t go far. They can win a divisional rd game at home off a Bye, but I also don’t trust Goodell in the upcoming games.

    Expect him to cheat for Buffalo in 2 weeks. Book it. He’s trying to affect seeding as we speak, which is why this cheating happened last night the way it did.

    He’s trying to get Buffalo the division to throw Pegula a bone.

  133. fishfan77 says:
    December 9, 2019 at 9:03 am
    Very bad call, but what is being overlooked is the Pats SHOULD have scored a TD after the blown call.

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    Well, which blown call? They did!

    They also tried to on the last drive, but Dorsett was tackled in mid air.

    LMAO

  134. Vasteelerfan says:
    December 9, 2019 at 8:16 am
    Lots of Pats fans whining about the refs. The very same fans that made dumb statements about the Saints fans now know what it feels like to be screwed……so shut up. No mention of the non call on a hit out of bounds on Mahomes…….selective memory or just be typical hypocritical Pats fanboys?

    One of the worst jobs by the refs I have seen but am very happy it happened to a team that always gets the phantom calls to win…..the tears and the booing are hilarious to watch from the Pats fans…..wait till Brady is gone if you think this is bad.

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    The Pats have been screwed since Goodell took over.

    4th and 2 in 2009. Faulk with clear first down, spotted a full 2 yards behind his forward progression with final possession up against his chest.

    Numerous bagjobs that wouldn’t even light up this board.

    Rule changes during games, Blandino caught on the internet changing the wording of the rules to match the cheating by Goodell’s refs during games.

    Maul job by Kuechlyu on Gronk in 2013, the phantom FG attempt do over in NY in OT where the Jets cheated and told the refs what to do.

    The phantom OFF PI call by Gronk in Denver in 2015. We could go on for days and days.

    NE would overcome these a lot in the past, so there are so many that you idiots don’t even know about because they ended up winning.

    This is WELL BEYOND what other teams deal with, dopey. Well beyond. Rules dont’ get applied differrently, protocols are not changed, etc, like this with other teams. Goodell is so desperate to stop NE, this is what he does.

    The Clement TD in SB 52 is a prime example. Real NE fans know what Goodell has been doing, with the made up scandals at the heart of it all.

    We know…we know…..We just don’t know how it’s going to manifest itself.

  135. fromhankstramtotoddhaley says:
    December 9, 2019 at 7:41 am
    The calls were karma for Belichick diverting Chiefs luggage and trying to make them forfeit. Any Patriot fans find that embarrassing?
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    Wait, Belichick did what?!

  136. We aren’t ALL that way. The Patriots have spoiled us,and there are more of us who appreciate what they have done over the years than there are the jerks who boo them when it’s not going well.

    You are going to be wrong generalizing about any group of people, but their are exceptions to the rule……which you Pats fans fit……most entitled biased and fair weather fans in sports. Listen I grew up in NE rooting for the Celts,Sox!,Bruins and watched you animals boo them when they lost giving their best which could never be enough to satisfy your entitled spoiled butts. To say the majority are not jerks is laughable…..and entertaining when done by people like you with a straight innocent face…..I know you would never lie….right? Lol

  137. Brady is 42 and of course it’s hard to compare him to when he was 30, but it’s clear that he’s not the issue with this offense sputtering. He won a league MVP a couple of years ago and he hasn’t “fallen of the cliff” like all of the nitwits said he would.

    He’s made them all laughingstock so many times that it can’t even be counted.

    You can count him and the Patriots out of it only when he retires.

  138. “If all scoring plays are reviewed why wasn’t the Harry TD (witch was a TD) not reviewed?”

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    Because it wasn’t called a TD on the field, so it technically wasn’t a scoring play.

  139. I don’t understand why Pats fans can’t complain about the reffing. It’s not a credit/debit system. The calls were awful and at the end of the day the Pats lost, that’s football and it happens every week.
    And
    fromhankstramtotoddhaley says:
    December 9, 2019 at 7:41 am
    The calls were karma for Belichick diverting Chiefs luggage and trying to make them forfeit. Any Patriot fans find that embarrassing?
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    Ummm this was all on the equipment staff for KC. They didn’t remove a container from the plane and didn’t realize it until the next day. THAT’s EMBARRASSING

  140. Those calls were obviously pretty horrible, but the Chiefs had over 100 more penalty yards against them in this game, so let’s calm down with the fix talk. Even if the Harry TD was called a TD, Pats still lose.

  141. I have copied and saved all these “end of the Pats… the slide… Brady looks 50… McDaniels is done” comments and will repost them back at you when New England wins the Super Bowl.

  142. Weren’t we just here last year? Everyone knows the Patriots went 10 years without winning a Super Bowl right? Struggling is nothing new. Last year at this time the Patriots were 9-4 after coming off the miracle in Miami and about to go 9-5. They are still in a good position with 3 important games left. That’s more than any fan could ask for after such a great run over the last 8 years. Lets goooo!

  143. Well. Goodie for you! Save those posts! This one included. Patriots. It’s over.

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    gronkhof says:
    December 9, 2019 at 10:48 am

    I have copied and saved all these “end of the Pats… the slide… Brady looks 50… McDaniels is done” comments and will repost them back at you when New England wins the Super Bowl.

  144. webofbelief says:
    December 9, 2019 at 10:42 am
    “If all scoring plays are reviewed why wasn’t the Harry TD (witch was a TD) not reviewed?”

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    Because it wasn’t called a TD on the field, so it technically wasn’t a scoring play.

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    actually, the official in view in real time, who was right there, signaled a TD.

  145. ill42 says:
    December 9, 2019 at 10:46 am
    Those calls were obviously pretty horrible, but the Chiefs had over 100 more penalty yards against them in this game, so let’s calm down with the fix talk. Even if the Harry TD was called a TD, Pats still lose.

    Um No….If that TD is called correct
    Then they don’t need to go for it on 4th and goal at the end, they kick a FG and it goes into OT

    If it was called a TD then they only have to kick a FG at the end to send it to

  146. Tired of hearing about the Pats receivers. Look at the last three plays of the game – before kneel downs –

    2nd down – Tight end runs seem route w zero coverage. Not an easy throw but absolutely open by NFL standards. Brady misses him.

    3rd down – Edelman is open on crossing route. An accurate throw and he walks in the end zone. But the throw is slightly behind him and low. Edelman has to fall to the ground to catch it at the two yard line.

    4th down – The received is WIDE OPEN. Two full yards of separation.An accurate throw to the sideline and any high school receiver catches it. But the throw is weak and behind him, allowing the DB to close and break up the pass.

    No more excuses. He was great and still might have something left. But his inaccuracy lost that game in the end. Let’s see if he owns up to it, or anyone calls him on it.

  147. fivechampionships says:
    December 9, 2019 at 11:18 am
    Tired of hearing about the Pats receivers. Look at the last three plays of the game – before kneel downs –

    2nd down – Tight end runs seem route w zero coverage. Not an easy throw but absolutely open by NFL standards. Brady misses him.

    3rd down – Edelman is open on crossing route. An accurate throw and he walks in the end zone. But the throw is slightly behind him and low. Edelman has to fall to the ground to catch it at the two yard line.

    4th down – The received is WIDE OPEN. Two full yards of separation.An accurate throw to the sideline and any high school receiver catches it. But the throw is weak and behind him, allowing the DB to close and break up the pass.

    No more excuses. He was great and still might have something left. But his inaccuracy lost that game in the end. Let’s see if he owns up to it, or anyone calls him on it.

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    Let’s say for a second that all your points are correct. So he played badly and lost the game. It’s not the first time. Let’s see if he keeps fighting and gets back to where he was in the first few weeks of the season and the end of last year. The Patriots made the AFCCG 8 times in a row and the last 3 Super Bowls. That kind of success just doesn’t keep going easily. Previous record for championship games was 5 in a row. They are bound to have some struggles. I think we should see how they can manage to get through them instead of trying desperately to hold Brady accountable for a few games.

  148. apurpleriverrunsthroughit says:
    December 9, 2019 at 10:58 am
    Well. Goodie for you! Save those posts! This one included. Patriots. It’s over.

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    What does over mean to you exactly? The Patriots were pounded by the Ravens in a WC game. It wasn’t over. They lost in the divisional round to the Jets. It wasn’t over.
    At that time people were saying Brady’s playoff record wasn’t as good as Eli’s or Flacco’s. Since then the Patriots went to every AFC Championship Game.

    Long way to go this season.

  149. Sorry. Should have said it’s almost over.

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    bullcharger says:
    December 9, 2019 at 11:38 am

    apurpleriverrunsthroughit says:
    December 9, 2019 at 10:58 am
    Well. Goodie for you! Save those posts! This one included. Patriots. It’s over.

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    What does over mean to you exactly? The Patriots were pounded by the Ravens in a WC game. It wasn’t over. They lost in the divisional round to the Jets. It wasn’t over.
    At that time people were saying Brady’s playoff record wasn’t as good as Eli’s or Flacco’s. Since then the Patriots went to every AFC Championship Game.

    Long way to go this season.

  150. There’s bad calls in every game, but there’s not that many that actually outright rob a team of a touchdown.
    Of course it’s perfectly ok when it happens to NE.

  151. Funny that Mahomes girlfriend is out on Twitter talking smack. She thinks Lombardi’s are easy to get and mocks NE having SIX.
    Lol #NOTTOOBRIGHT

  152. December 9, 2019 at 11:18 am
    Tired of hearing about the Pats receivers. Look at the last three plays of the game – before kneel downs –

    2nd down – Tight end runs seem route w zero coverage. Not an easy throw but absolutely open by NFL standards. Brady misses him.

    3rd down – Edelman is open on crossing route. An accurate throw and he walks in the end zone. But the throw is slightly behind him and low. Edelman has to fall to the ground to catch it at the two yard line.

    4th down – The received is WIDE OPEN. Two full yards of separation.An accurate throw to the sideline and any high school receiver catches it. But the throw is weak and behind him, allowing the DB to close and break up the pass.

    No more excuses. He was great and still might have something left. But his inaccuracy lost that game in the end. Let’s see if he owns up to it, or anyone calls him on it.

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    I am a Pats fan and I can admit this. What sucks is, if there is a drop whether it by Edelman or one of the rookies, the Brady Fanboys of our fanbase hone in on that almost exclusively.

    I was watching video of some recent Brady postseasons like in 2014 or 2016 and he’s much more willing to move up in the pocket after the dropback, step and fire. He’s not doing that right now.

    He’s doing what he did when he stared down Cooks in 2017 and he’d drop way back and wait for Cooks’s deep route to emerge, where he took on a lot of hits that year. A lot of it is on the playcalling, the approach, etc.

    Why does Michel disappear after the first series, for example? Where is the 2 back set?

    I’ve never seen healthy, really good RBs completely buried like this before. McD and Brady were awful yet again. The playcalling is meant to help your OL and your receivers.

  153. webofbelief says:
    December 9, 2019 at 10:42 am
    “If all scoring plays are reviewed why wasn’t the Harry TD (witch was a TD) not reviewed?”

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    Because it wasn’t called a TD on the field, so it technically wasn’t a scoring play.

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    Right, but why did they break protocol like on the Kelce fumble? They broke two of their own protocols within 5 mins of one another. Why is that?

  154. my goodness Patriot fans you want everything, for the past 20 years everything has gone your way from calls to the schedule. You need to earn it you’re not entitled to anything and this year’s team is simply not good. Deal with it get over it you need a new quarterback.

  155. wintercoates87 says:
    December 9, 2019 at 11:59 am
    There’s bad calls in every game, but there’s not that many that actually outright rob a team of a touchdown.
    Of course it’s perfectly ok when it happens to NE.
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    Two words…Tuck rule.

  156. Easy fix… all “potential” scoring plays are reviewed. Why wouldn’t the NFL want common sense? Oh wait… all these ridiculously applied (and not applied) rules are so the NFL can more easily fix games.

  157. Watkins should have been penalized and ejected for running Gilmore OB and grabbing facemask LONG after play was whistled. Hightower hit a runner in field of play.

    Watkins will get clotheslined next time they meet.

  158. A Dynasty can win anytime anywhere. All the comments above are just talk and noise. The championship will be settled on the field which is the way New England want is. They hate the noise and social media blah blah blah. 90 percent of the players that will take the field in January and February have never won anything yet. The playoffs are a different animal. Regular season games are meaningless except for seeding.

    Baltimore and Kansas City have not won anything yet except a regular season game against the dynasty. Beating Belichick and Brady twice in same season has been nearly impossible hsitorically. So to quote Brady from last year We will see.

  159. Dont be like the other fanbases and clubs No excuses! kc was the better team yesterday ignore the noise keep grinding I’m as proud of the pats as ever!!!!🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆

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