Sean Payton to butcher: “Worry about your meat”

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Everyone has an opinion about play-calling.

That includes the local butcher, which was one step too far for Saints coach Sean Payton.

The topic of the day in New Orleans was Payton’s decision to go for a two-point conversion early in Sunday’s 48-46 loss to the 49ers. That attempt failed.

Via the New Orleans Times-Picayune, Payton admitted some frustration during his weekly coach’s show on WWL.

“I certainly understand fans asking questions,” Payton said. “I got the guy at freaking Whole Foods asking me about the two-point play. The guy from the meat section. I looked at him and said, ‘Hey, your steaks don’t look too good right now. Worry about your meat. Driving me crazy.'”

Among the non-butchers, former Saints Bobby Hebert and Zach Strief also had questions about the decision.

“It was two things,” Payton explained. “I love the play and it didn’t help they missed the line, but there was a personal foul so we can take the kick at the 50. And you can think about pinning them back. You can think even about an onside kick at the 50 or this year they’ll allow you to go and assess it on the two-point play. So instead of running a two-point play on the 2, we’re now on the 1. I knew exactly what we wanted to get to. It was a play we felt real good with. We’re on the 1-yard line. I’ve always been more conservative and never really looked at that chart until the second half. So it was really more about the penalty and the ability for us to run a play from the 1-yard line. The safety lines up on the wrong side of the ball. We send the motion and all of a sudden we’re going into an extra man. But mainly that decision was on the personal foul and getting the ball on the 1 rather than the 2-yard line.”

So there you have it, T-Bone.

44 responses to “Sean Payton to butcher: “Worry about your meat”

  1. Typical Payton, whining because how dare anybody question the self professed smartest man in football .

  2. “The guy from the meat section. I looked at him and said, ‘Hey, your steaks don’t look too good right now. Worry about your meat. Driving me crazy.”

    Little touchy there, aren’t we, Sean?

  3. My problem with the Saints is with their lack of being able to tackle, on that 75yd pass to Sanders there were two players that had a chance to stop him before the endzone. One could have had him down about the 13-14yd line but went for the strip and missed, the second could have tackled him about the 4yd line and again they went for the strip instead, missed and LET Sanders score! What is it with these players now days that won’t tackle, I understand trying to strip the ball but not at the cost of letting them score, that cost the Saints the game and rightfully so, they deserved to lose!

  4. That sequence was a double whammy. They lost Cook which is what spurred them to go for two. Losing him for the game was bigger than the 2 points. The fact that he’s not on the field lowers your odds too.

    Never go for 2 until you have to. Their chart doesn’t make sense to me because field goals instantly change the equation. I don’t care what the percentages are and maybe they do even out. But make them even out when it MATTERS. Like when you NEED it. Turning 3 score games into 2 when you have 2 possessions left. That kind of math. Their chart is bogus. I’ve seen it backfire time and time again.

    I know Payton is an O genius. So is Andy Reid and he still can’t manage a clock. Even BB made a huge mistake in having no punt returner. It happens. But geniuses don’t like to be 2nd guessed. Well, no one’s perfect. On to Columbus…

  5. Payton has never been a guy that sticks with the status quo play call to avoid controversy. He goes with what he thinks will work. They always look good when they work and bad when they don’t. That’s just what good coaches do.

  6. I love it. The whiny jerk doesn’t like anybody saying anything to him. Maybe he should have everything delivered but of course there’s no guarantee that the the delivery person won’t make a comment. If they had executed it wuld not have mattered but maybe if they played defense they would have won.

  7. I think as a coach you have too consider the 2 other teams playing on the field with yours. Generally speaking you have your designated opponent and a supposed neutral party. When the neutrality is scued away from your team, I think a more aggressive approach is warranted. This may give your team enough of a lead to overcome your opponents. Sometimes that philosophy fails you, especially when a previously unrealized blocking technique is employed by your opponents negating your own play designs. I think Payton’s aggressive approach is warranted nearly every week.

  8. Even BB made a huge mistake in having no punt returner.
    ———
    That wasn’t a mistake. That was a calculated risk. They just failed to block the punt. BB intentionally didn’t have a return man because he wanted to block the punt. It wasn’t a mistake. It was a calculated risk that didn’t pan out.

  9. As a fan, I think we all have the right to second guess decisions, calls etc. it comes with your purchase,. Like watching Tv or going to games or buying gear, or even some websites. You are generating income for the team, so this is part of what you get for that. As a coach he should know that getting second guessed comes as part of the territory. But here’s the key part. As fans we can second guess all we want as long as we don’t take ourselves and our “football expertise” too seriously. Payton shouldn’t either.

  10. factschecker says:
    December 10, 2019 at 9:05 am

    Even BB made a huge mistake in having no punt returner.
    ———
    That wasn’t a mistake. That was a calculated risk. They just failed to block the punt. BB intentionally didn’t have a return man because he wanted to block the punt. It wasn’t a mistake. It was a calculated risk that didn’t pan out.

    _____________

    Agreed. Even the chuckleheads on talk radio around here didn’t quite grasp that if you have 11 guys rushing the punt and 10 blocking, you have a 1 man advantage and a risk/reward scenario.

    It’s amazing how ignorant people about football and 2nd grade math

  11. factschecker says:
    December 10, 2019 at 9:05 am
    Even BB made a huge mistake in having no punt returner.
    ———
    That wasn’t a mistake. That was a calculated risk. They just failed to block the punt. BB intentionally didn’t have a return man because he wanted to block the punt. It wasn’t a mistake. It was a calculated risk that didn’t pan out.

    *********************

    Haha Bill ain’t too smart then. Stack 11 guys, stack 100 guys, there is only room for a few people to be positioned to have time to get to the kicker. It was a bone-headed gamble and it burned his team badly.

  12. Had it been BB who said it, then it would be Great job coach!! Also had the saint converted Sean P would be called a genius. I had no issue with the aggressive play call.

  13. what a glorious weekend…Cowboys, Saints, Patriots, Seahawks all lose…added bonus: Payton getting defensive…greatest (self proclaimed)coach with greatest (self-proclaimed)QB and one (1!) super bowl appearance in 14 years…lol…

  14. My problem with the Saints is with their lack of being able to tackle, on that 75yd pass to Sanders there were two players that had a chance to stop him before the endzone. One could have had him down about the 13-14yd line but went for the strip and missed, the second could have tackled him about the 4yd line and again they went for the strip instead, missed and LET Sanders score! What is it with these players now days that won’t tackle, I understand trying to strip the ball but not at the cost of letting them score, that cost the Saints the game and rightfully so, they deserved to lose!

    It’s a league-wide problem. It’s because of all the entitled millennial that can’t take coaching. They’re taking over the league and making it almost unwatchable.

  15. Not a lot of wisdom on this thread today, but a lot of failed attempts at snark
    Since 2006 – 2018, Paytons team has averaged over 400 yds per game, the best in NFL history.
    So, yeah, “Outlawdanman”, thats the best playcalling in NFL History.
    also, “Shermanblog” where did Sean Payton profess to be the “Smartest man in Football”?
    I’d like to see the citation for that! (Because he didn’t, obviously)
    any non-coach who thinks he/she knows even a small amount of what a 20 year NFL coach knows about football is committing the ace con, fooling yourself.
    Why does Vegas make billions off of football?
    Because , (same as with Blackjack) people THINK they know it.
    License to print money for Vegas.
    Also, think of this…
    the thing at whole foods is just one time, and Payton is trying for a laugh on the Radio show…how many more times per day does that happen , every day, in season -off season, win or lose.
    Honestly, some people!

  16. Payton deserves the right to make any call he chooses to make – that he failed here is not that big a deal. Even the great BB makes mistakes. Still a great team with legit SB aspirations.

  17. Looking at the the people killing Sean…I have an offer for you. We’ll gladly take him and his “whiny arrogance” in Dallas and you can have Redball. Deal?? We’ll even throw in a sack of footballs and a couple of ribeyes.

  18. Hey “Captain whodat”
    Where did Sean Payton and Drew Brees proclaim themselves to be “the Best”?
    Specifically…
    Because you cant, it never happened…

  19. apurpleriverrunsthroughit says:
    December 10, 2019 at 8:57 am
    Vikings. We got the meats!
    —————-
    You’re right….meathead coach, meathead GM, meathead fans etc….

  20. Fans. They think just because they’re the engine behind everything good that’s happened to the NFL and the players that they get to question a god like Payton. Just shut up and fork over the money.

  21. Payton is such a prima donna. Karma is biting him in the butt.

    It started two years ago…the playoff game in Minnesota. The Saints looked like they were about to clinch the win. Payton puts his hands to his neck, giving the “CHOKE” sign to the Vikings players and coaches.

    Less than a minute after the choke sign, the “Miracle in Minneapolis” happened. Vikings won. Saints lost.

    Then last year…more Karma….the missed PI call.

    I’m happy to see that karma works, sometimes.

  22. Hey “Captain whodat”
    Where did Sean Payton and Drew Brees proclaim themselves to be “the Best”?
    Specifically…
    Because you cant, it never happened…
    So, irritated Saint’s fan…they’re not the best?…just askin’

  23. factschecker says:
    December 10, 2019 at 9:05 am
    Even BB made a huge mistake in having no punt returner.
    ———
    That wasn’t a mistake. That was a calculated risk. They just failed to block the punt. BB intentionally didn’t have a return man because he wanted to block the punt. It wasn’t a mistake. It was a calculated risk that didn’t pan out.

    I understand it’s a calculated risk. Semantics. His ‘calculated risk’ was a MISTAKE in my eyes, considering the time left on the clock. To reiterate: It was a MISTAKE to take that calculated risk. It cost then 30 yards in field position. Their drive ended on the 47ish? All things being equal (but they never are) the drive could have theoretically ended in 4 down territory.

    Plus they already blocked a punt with 10 and a returner. You have to returned, means you have no gunners too. It’s still leaves one free 11 vs 10+ a punter. So one guy has to win. I get it. But we practiced this and the odds are not with you. Even if you’re great at it. I’ll take the field position.

  24. @ “captainwhodat”-

    the vast difference between a player or coach being falsely accused of a “self-proclamation” and my noting that, for example, Drew Brees has 20% of the Best Games ever played by an NFL QB , and passed for 43 miles should go without saying…(makes “Home Alone” face, gee were you trying to TRIGGER someone?)
    Actually, there is a great article about “Captainwhodat” in the August5, 2019 Psychology Today. Very interesting

  25. captainwhodat says:
    December 10, 2019 at 9:38 am
    what a glorious weekend…Cowboys, Saints, Patriots, Seahawks all lose…added bonus: Payton getting defensive…greatest (self proclaimed)coach with greatest (self-proclaimed)QB and one (1!) super bowl appearance in 14 years…lol…

    Lol Brees has outplayed Brady at the QB position bud. Obviously TEAM sports are WAYYY over ur head. One player doesn’t win SBs (Brady himself has proven that- he had his best SB ever yet the PATRIOTS lost … why… cause the defense gave up 40+ pts… then this last SB Brady played horrible & had his worst SB ever yet the PATRIOTS won their 1st SB by double digit pts… why… cause the defense held the other team to 3 pts lol). Brady’s had FOURTEEN top 10 scoring defenses (they have ONLY won SBs when they had a top 8 scoring defense & the 18 PLAYOFF teams they beat to win those SBs the defense held those 18 PLAYOFF teams to an avg of ONLY 18 pts a game…. also when they had their worst scoring defense-which was still ONLY 17th lol- they missed the playoffs & barely made it going 10-6 the other year) while Brees has had THREE. When u talk about an INDIVIDUAL player u have to use how THEY played lol… can’t use something a TEAM does when trying to talk about how good an INDIVIDUAL player is or isn’t. Brees has gotten his team to the playoffs anytime he’s given even a top 29 scoring defense… Brady hasn’t. Go debate golf or tennis cause u don’t understand team sports.

  26. That Whole Foods butcher better know his place and not get uppity again. You talk to Mr Sean Payton you say “Sir!”.

  27. @bob.just .foundbobbingintheocean-

    so,

    Since Brees had just demolished the 49ers defense with the best game by an NFL QB in the last 5 seasons …and the 3rd best of all time, he’s likely now working on what to do vs the Colts…

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