Goodell sees no momentum for changes to playoff seeding

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This season’s playoffs could see a 7-9 NFC East champion playing host to a 13-3 NFC West runner-up, and some people think that’s unfair. Roger Goodell is not one of those people.

The Commissioner said at the league meeting today that there has been talk in the past about changing the NFL playoff structure so that home-field advantage in each game goes to the team with the better regular-season record, rather than guaranteeing every division winner a home playoff game. But Goodell said the overwhelming feeling in the NFL is that winning a division title is the primary goal for NFL teams and should be rewarded with a home playoff game.

“Teams go into the season, the first objective is to win the division. That’s what they work on: Win the division, go to the playoffs,” Goodell said.

Goodell said that the issue hasn’t even come up this year at the league office, nor does he expect it to.

“I have not heard that. I don’t anticipate hearing that again,” Goodell said.

So while Seahawks or 49ers fans won’t enjoy having to play a road game at Dallas or Philadelphia in the first weekend of January, Goodell doesn’t have any sympathy.

67 responses to “Goodell sees no momentum for changes to playoff seeding

  1. I don’t see any reason to change it now. It’s not like it happens often, last time was I think the 7-9 Seahwaks back in 2010.

    Also it would diminish a lot of division rivalries and importance of games, etc.

  2. It’s a Christmas miracle. Goodell isn’t trying to break an aspect of the sport that works just fine. Now we just need him to give up on adding games to the season.

  3. Well the Patriots get a home playoff game despite needing roughly 6 wins in a season to get it and the packers have lost on the road despite being 15-1. We also saw the 12-4 saints lose to the 7-9 seahawks. I guess wins and losses aren’t everything in a league that lives on the term “any given sunday”

  4. why put a change on the books when you can simply use the officials to decide games to get the seeding where the NFL wants it these days?

  5. Every system has flaws, the fans are aligned with their team’s agenda du jur, nothing more. Seattle or SF fans that find current system unfair will be the same fans that next year find the system fair when they win their division at 9-7 and host a wild card team that is 10-6. Let it be and move on to a conversation worth having, please.

  6. “ I don’t see any reason to change it now. It’s not like it happens often, last time was I think the 7-9 Seahwaks back in 2010.“

    Panthers won recently with record of 7-8-1

  7. First round byes should stay the same. However if a wildcard team finishes 12-4 or greater, they shouldn’t have to travel to play a division winner who is .500 or worse. At minimum you should have a winning record to earn the right to host.

  8. I realize that most posters here wants to keep it the way it is, but when Goodell says “Win the division, go to the playoff” I can live with that but why would the clearly inferior 7-9 team get an home game on top of that? Going to the playoff should be reward enough IMO.

  9. MDS speaking for Seahawks fans being disappointed… Well, I’m a Seahawks fan and I’m okay with home games being a division winning privilege. If our path to the Superbowl is through other people’s houses, so be it. And if a team can’t win on the road, then they aren’t a Superbowl caliber team. Seahawks came out soft vs. LA and sloppy vs. NO (earlier this year) and put themselves in this position. Gotta work outta that hole.

  10. Why complain about SEA or SF having to go on the road for the playoffs?
    The Rams could conceivably finish 11-5 and miss the playoffs altogether.

  11. Division winners getting to host a playoff game helps ensure that the NFL doesn’t turn into the NBA. In the NBA, there is no reward for winning the division so few people know or care who wins the division. There are few NBA division rivalries. The importance of winning the division makes the NFL much more interesting.

  12. The league is fixed and rigged anyway so who cares…i finally believed it when atlanta literally gave new england the superbowl!!! Who in right mind would drop back to pass when up 28-3!! Sucks to know the truth, miss real football of the 90s

  13. Leave the seeding alone. If a 13-3 team cant beat a 7-9 team on the road in the playoffs, then they were probably frauds anyways.

  14. It probably isn’t the most fair way to do it, but it does at times create a better matchup and closer game. A weak division winner would likely get steam rolled on the road. Nobody wants to see Dallas get throttled 42-10 in Seattle it Frisco.

  15. The current playoff structure works great! Marshawn lynch gave us perhaps the greatest, or one of the all-time greatest runs in playoff history in that classic Saints vs. Seahawks playoff game! Football fans love great games in the playoffs and that was one of the all timers.

  16. It’s the Electoral College of pro football. Teams that don’t deserve it can be placed in a position to win, against the majority.

  17. In 08 the Chargers won the AFC West with a 8-8 record and beat the 12-4 Colts in the Wild Card Round. That was the same year the Patriots won 11 games but still missed the playoffs.

  18. The consensus seems to be against seeding by record in the wildcard round “because tradition.” It’s not. In the not-too-long-ago six division era, two of the winners didn’t get to host a playoff game.

    Besides, the league seeds by record in every other round. Different rules for wildcard make no sense..

  19. If it doesn’t happen very often it, might as well change it. The team with the worst record should not be hosting the playoff game regardless if they win the division. Since It doesn’t really happen very often the winners of the division generally have upper echelon records of the NFL so seedings would be pretty consistently accurate. No reason to be in this situation

  20. the packers have lost on the road despite being 15-1

    ———

    That never happened. No 15-1 team ever went on the road in the playoffs

  21. “The team with the worst record should not be hosting the playoff game regardless if they win the division.”

    To the contrary, almost always the #5 seed will have a better record than the #4 seed. It’s very unlikely to have the best divisional runner-up have a lower record than the worst divisional winner. That’s because schedules are unbalanced. So every season, one division will get a bit of a boost because they got to play two weak divisions.

  22. “I can live with that but why would the clearly inferior 7-9 team get an home game on top of that?”

    Seems obvious if you have a 7-9 team hosting a 12-4 team. But where do we draw the line? What if it’s an 8-win team hosting a 9-win team? When the 8-win team had a clearly harder schedule?

  23. Since the NFL went to a 12 team playoff format & even back to the merger there is an extremely small sample size of .500 or under teams winning a division and/or advancing in the playoffs- so just stop……..

  24. Just for grins and giggles, do you realize that whichever team wins the NFC East is going to drop in the draft order? With three weeks to go the draft order is in flux, but currently the 6-7 teams are 13-18 in draft order. The playoff teams are 21-32. So the NFC East winner will drop from mid-teens to 21, 25, 29, 31 or 32. Maybe they do deserve to host a playoff game as a consolation prize.

  25. Good. They shouldn’t change anything. It’s good for ratings. Who wants to see a 7-9 team travel to 14-2 San Francisco and get blown out? Besides, every sub-.500 team that has ever made it to the playoffs has beaten a team that had 11 wins or more. It would be moronic to change anything.

  26. joker65 says:
    December 11, 2019 at 7:15 pm
    the packers have lost on the road despite being 15-1
    ———
    That never happened. No 15-1 team ever went on the road in the playoffs
    ———————————————
    Absolutely correct. The only time it was even a possibility was in 2007 against the 16-0 Patriots.

  27. It’s the Electoral College of pro football. Teams that don’t deserve it can be placed in a position to win, against the majority.
    =========

    This is a really accurate analogy actually (though you probably need a bit of actual reasoning ability to understand it, which explains all the dislikes it got.

  28. The re-seeding conversation is FAR more common that people are suggesting. In fact, it comes up almost every single postseason…sometimes 2-3 times in a single wildcard round. Granted, a 7-win team rarely wins their division…those are extreme examples. But make no mistake….. it’s VERY common for a wildcard team with double-digit wins to travel to a division-winner with fewer wins.

    Consider the following wildcards matchups in recent years.

    2018:
    Chargers (12-4) @ Ravens (10-6)

    2016:
    Raiders (12-4) @ Texans (9-7)
    Giants (11-5) @ Packers (10-6)

    2015:
    Chiefs (11-5) @ Texans (9-7)
    Packers (10-6) @ Redskins (9-7)

    2014:
    Cardinals (11-5) @ Panthers (7-8-1)

    2013:
    49ers (12-4) @ Packers (8-7-1)

    2012:
    Colts (11-5) @ Ravens (10-6)
    Seahawks (11-5) @ Redskins (10-6)

    2011:
    Steelers (12-4) @ Broncos (8-8)
    Falcons (10-6) @ Giants (9-7)

    2010:
    Jets (11-5) @ Colts (10-6)
    Saints (11-5) @ Seahawks (7-9)
    Ravens (12-4) @ Chiefs (10-6)

    This is just over the past decade, but that’s as far as I looked; I’m sure it goes back much further.

    Personally, I’m fully on board with re-seeding the teams according to the number of wins. The current system gives a double-reward (playoff berth + a home game) to division winners, no matter what. Personally, I think home field advantage should go to the teams that have been successful against all competition….not just mediocre teams in a weak division.

  29. wny2019 says:
    December 11, 2019 at 5:56 pm
    The league is fixed and rigged anyway so who cares…i finally believed it when atlanta literally gave new england the superbowl!!! Who in right mind would drop back to pass when up 28-3!! Sucks to know the truth, miss real football of the 90s

    ____

    You know, I think the Oilers dropped back to pass a bunch when they blew the playoff lead to the Bills back in 93….funny how perspective works huh?

  30. Personally, I think home field advantage should go to the teams that have been successful against all competition….not just mediocre teams in a weak division.

    ___

    Counterpoint: Lets use this years AFC East….the Bills and Pats will make the playoffs. Their record might possibly be better than KC or Hou/Tenn, but they’ll go on the road….however, the AFC East got to play against the NFC East this year, who everyone is saying is horrible. They Bills/Pats win totals got fat against that division, Bills 3-1 and Pats 4-0….meanwhile KC had to play the NFC Central, a division with GB and Minn, 2 potential playoff teams….and Chicago who beat the current NFC East leader….

    So win totals for Pats/Buff might be against mediocre teams, not the other way around.

    Just leave it the way it is. Win your division, get a home game.

  31. I don’t have any sympathy for them either. This is one thing I totally agree with Roger and the owners. You want a home game then win your division.

  32. Second-place teams don’t have an inalienable right to a playoff spot. It’s supposed to be more difficult for them, and they should be happy to be given the second life at all.

    (Parallel to the one-game baseball wildcard. There’s a way around having to play that game, you just didn’t earn it.)

  33. joker65 says:
    December 11, 2019 at 7:15 pm
    the packers have lost on the road despite being 15-1
    +++++++++++++++++

    What year were they 15-1?

  34. In 08 the Chargers won the AFC West with a 8-8 record and beat the 12-4 Colts in the Wild Card Round. That was the same year the Patriots won 11 games but still missed the playoffs.
    ++++++++++

    What more evidence do we need? The current system works perfectly.

  35. Bob. Just Bob. says:
    December 12, 2019 at 9:52 am
    joker65 says:
    December 11, 2019 at 7:15 pm
    the packers have lost on the road despite being 15-1
    +++++++++++++++++

    What year were they 15-1?
    Answer: 2011. They hosted and lost the Divisional to the Giants 37-20.

  36. Win the division, earn a home playoff game. Win the division with the best record in the conference, earn a first round bye and home field advantage throughout the playoffs. That’s the way seeding works, and every coach and player knows it going in.

    Wasn’t too long ago, 2016, the Dallas Cowboys went 13-3, won the NFC East, earned a first round bye, and home field advantage. The Green Bay Packers went 10-6, won the NFC North, earned a home playoff game, hosted the 11-5 New York Giants. The team with the better record had to travel in the playoffs, because they didn’t win their division. Green Bay won, because sometimes home field does have its advantages.

    Then the Packers had to travel to Dallas, because they were the lower seed. Green Bay won, because sometimes home field does not have its advantages.

    (By the way, did you know that Brett Favre lost every game he played in Texas Stadium–including once to Jason Garrett, who came of the third string bench to win on Thanksgiving Day, 1995–but Aaron Rodgers has never lost a game at AT&T Stadium, including a Super Bowl.)

    Just goes to show, regular season records and home field are meaningless in the playoffs. Once the tournament begins, every team is 0-0. If a team doesn’t want to travel in the wild card round, win the division. If a team wants a first round bye and home field advantage, lead the conference.

    Not that it matters much, because any team can beat any team on any given game day in any given stadium. There have been times when a 15-0 team hosted or traveled to play against an 0-15 team, and lost.

    Remember when the undefeated Patriots played the Giants in the Super Bowl? New York won.

    Neither team had home field advantage, because the championship game is played on neutral grounds; both teams had to travel. No team has ever hosted a Super Bowl in their own stadium. That was Jerry Jones’s dream in 2016, but Aaron Rodgers turned it into a nightmare. Dallas (or Arlington, actually) had been awarded the Super Bowl in 2011, but the Cowboys failed to make the playoffs at 8-8. That was the year Green Bay beat Pittsburg. It had to be infuriating to watch Aaron Rodgers win a Super Bowl in your fancy stadium, then watch him come back five years later and ruin your hopes of advancing to even the conference championship.

    That’s football. It’s all about coaching. Execution on offense, disruption on defense, field position on special teams, but mostly it’s about scoring points, winning. It’s all about matchups and players performing.

    A team with a better record can lose to a team with a lesser record. Just because you won a lot of games doesn’t mean you’re going to win the next one. Every team has to travel throughout the regular season. Why should it be any different in the playoffs?

    If you want to host a wild card game, win the division. If you want a bye, lead the conference. But even then a division title, a first round bye and home field advantage won’t guarantee a victory.

    There have been too many examples of teams with losing records beating teams with winning records. It’s all about the next game.

    You want to make the playoffs? Win your division. Wild card teams necessarily have to travel, but it’s not like wild card teams haven’t won before.

  37. I don’t have a problem with the divisional winner, with an inferior record, hosting a playoff game. My problem is having the TV networks jam Eagles and Cowboys games down our throats all year. Since they both suck this year, only one prime time game for each of them next year and no national broadcasts Sunday afternoons!!

  38. This will only change if it effects a NY team or a marquee franchise. God forbid a 13-3 Cowboys would have to travel to play a 7-9 Cardinals team, or a 13-3 NY Jets have to go to a 6-10 Texans team. But if it’s a far superior 49ers , Seahawks that have to travel? System aint broke, win your division!

    The seeding is as garbage as the NFC East

  39. This is bogus. Playoff seeding would make week 17 less irrelevant for many teams. Wouldn’t see teams resting starters unless they are locked in with a bye.

  40. 11-5 Pats missed out on playoffs to 8-8 Chargers team in 2008. This was the year of Matt Cassel so it’s not that big of a deal, but they were obviously a better team than the Chargers that year.

  41. sammievee says:
    December 11, 2019 at 5:29 pm
    Every system has flaws, the fans are aligned with their team’s agenda du jur, nothing more. Seattle or SF fans that find current system unfair will be the same fans that next year find the system fair when they win their division at 9-7 and host a wild card team that is 10-6. Let it be and move on to a conversation worth having, please.
    ++++
    As a Seahawks fan, I do not find the system unfair. Seattle will either win the division, or the wildcard. If, by chance they miss out on both, that’s on them.

    I know an 11-5 team has missed the playoffs. Were the Pats the last one to do so? I can’t recall.

    That scenario doesn’t happen often enough to warrant drastic changes to the playoff format.

    No matter how much Florio wants everyone to have a cookie.

  42. jdubkc says:
    December 12, 2019 at 12:35 pm
    This wont change until it effects the Pats. Then its time for a serious look at the setup.
    ——–
    It already has affected the Pats, 2008 11-5 team missed the playoffs while 8-8 Chargers won their division.

  43. Brownsweregoodinthe80s says:
    December 12, 2019 at 7:34 am
    It’s the Electoral College of pro football. Teams that don’t deserve it can be placed in a position to win, against the majority.
    +++(
    What team doesn’t deserve to have a home game if they win their division, regardless of record?

    This whole, “it’s not fair” thing has to be tossed into your local landfill.

    Is it fair there are billionaires out there while homeless people are scratching by? No. If you want fairness, and justice, work on that before you complain about the seeding of a football team.

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