Patriots cameraman offered to delete Bengals sideline video on the spot

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A week after Spygate 2 became a thing, one of the videos generated that day has come to light.

Jay Glazer of FOX obtained video of the conversation between Bengals security and the Patriots videographer regarding the effort to videotape the sideline of the Bengals last weekend in Cleveland.

“Come on guys,” the Bengals representative can be heard saying.

Told that they were there to film in connection with the activities of an advance scout, the Bengals representative says, “I don’t see the advance scout in this footage.”

The Patriots representative then says, “I can delete this right here for you.”

“The damage is done,” the Bengals representative then says.

Indeed it was. The incident has now become one of the biggest issues in the league, due in large part to aggressive efforts by the Bengals to flag and to push the issue, especially if they have any responsibility for leaking the video or otherwise fueling and feeding the story.

It all makes for an interesting interaction between Bill Belichick and Zac Taylor after today’s game. While the safe assumption is that Belichick will give Taylor a frosty, half-hearted handshake, Belichick could be mad enough about the situation to give Taylor a piece of his mind, Chuck Noll vs. Jerry Glanville-style. That would underscore for anyone watching Belichick’s insistence that the Patriots’ football operations did nothing wrong.

75 responses to “Patriots cameraman offered to delete Bengals sideline video on the spot

  1. This was reported pretty early on that the camera man offered to delete the video. It comes down to sending a film crew who didn’t know the rules to a another stadium. Just. Plain. Stupid.

  2. I can’t believe even one person actually believes what Belicheat gives as an excuse. What a joke of an organization!!

  3. To be honest… I don’t blame the Bengals security for being aggressive. I would hope my team would do the same if someone was filming them.

    Pats- tell your employees to STOP filming sidelines. Have a supervisor watch the camera if you need to and step in as necessary. Get with the program folks.

  4. You mean delete the evidence that could otherwise be shown to the NFL. Oh, and I’m sure they weren’t recording to a cloud device either.

  5. Patriots shooting a film about an advance scout, and the advance scout isn’t in the video.

    Seems legit.

  6. Staggering stupidity from the Patriots, but there’s nothing in that video that you don’t see watching TV. And it’s from behind the Bengals sideline so it’s not like you can see anything from that angle anyway. If it wasn’t the Patriots, the Bengals guy wouldn’t have given a toss about it.

  7. The timing of the release of this video is priceless just before a game is played. I mean it could have been released anytime this week but no lets do it now.

    I am afraid the Patriots are guilty of past indiscretions so they get no benefit of the doubt anymore but I think this is being made a lot of when its an innocent mistake.

    Bottom line most people will find them guilty regardless. Those that are open minded will probably come to the conclusion its an innocent act that had nothing to do with the Footballing side of the team

  8. I saw nothing in that tape that looked anything like the tape from Spygate did. That is a relief.

    As for the B-Roll story- the league has its own video department and that should not be hard to verify if an 8 minute B roll footage is a thing.

    They will be penalized for this either way.

  9. I thought the video was completely innocent. Why are they trying to destroy the evidence before anyone sees it? Every new fact that comes out leads to the same conclusion. Cheaters gonna cheat and will never stop cheating until they start taking away titles.

  10. I’d be more inclined to believe that the Patriots were purposely trying to cheat & gain some sort of advantage via shady practices if they were not playing THE 1-12 Cinci Bengals. I’m 100% positive the Patriots back-ups could beat the Bengals, Bill Belicheck doesn’t have to cheat to beat the lowly Bungles. The fact the Bengals front office is aggressively pushing this issue makes it all the more laughable, if the only Bengals front office cared more about winning then maybe more people would actually believe in this farcical theory.

  11. SOMEONE directed them to tape direct footage of the opposing coaches. If they were really there to supposedly film the scout team, then that’s who would be on the video. “Kraft Productions” wouldn’t send them to film the scout crew and they on their own chose to ignore that by filming the opposing coaches sideline instead. You can believe what the patriots say, or what you see on the tape. The truth is on the tape.

  12. Here come the excuses again from the Pats fans worried about their legacy. Every time we get the same lame excuses from them but yet they get caught cheating again and again and again and again and again…

  13. There is clearly nothing to this, guy offered to delete it because the Bengals were over blowing it. Those were not close ups. You wouldn’t film signals from behind. This whole thing is a joke.

  14. The Patriots have been bending, stretching, and breaking rules for years. And according to them, they are always innocent.
    What a way to run an organization.

  15. Why should the Bengals have to aggressively push the issue? An obvious violation by a repeat offender I would think one phone call or email is all it should take

  16. It’s amazing how so many of you want the Patriots to be guilty…I’m sorry if the Pats have ruined your lives for the past 20 years. One day, your team will win 6 super bowls too, perhaps by the year 2150.

  17. Imagine the situation were reversed and the Bengals were found taping the Pats after the Bengals had previously been found to have acted improperly.

    Who thinks BB wouldn’t be steamed?

  18. This is at least the 3rd time the Patriots have been caught cheating. Not to mention that they have been cheating the cap by underpaying Brady and having him make up the difference by paying his sports therapy company. Belecheat needs to be suspended for a year if not banned from the league. The team should at least lose the next two #1 draft picks.

  19. Why would Belichik be inclined to give the Bengals coach a piece of his mind? His team was the one that got caught, maybe he should try an apology instead!

  20. Just because nothing significant was on the tape means nothing. The camera crew were not finished with their assignment when they got caught.

  21. I mean, we’re they going to delete it if they weren’t caught? That’s a hard no. As much as the homers keep pushing the issue that this isn’t a big deal, the team itself just keeps digging itself a deeper hole. I’m sure the mantra “It’s cheating only if you get caught” exists on a wall somewhere in Foxboro.

  22. They’ve been doing this for years and never stopped and they do it in other ways too. I know they intercept opponents radio signals and play calls, no coach is that smart to have his team lined up perfectly every snap especially after the half when the game gets more tough.

  23. mattcro0172 says:
    December 15, 2019 at 12:58 pm
    There is clearly nothing to this, guy offered to delete it because the Bengals were over blowing it. Those were not close ups. You wouldn’t film signals from behind. This whole thing is a joke.

    Yep, clearly noting and the whole thing is a joke. That is why the Patriot staff member is desperately begging to let him delete it. Yep, obviously doesn’t seem like the guy was acting guilty or anything. Nothing to see here. I also have some oceanfront property in New Mexico to sell ya.

  24. No officer, I didn’t rob that bank that has the alarm sounding right now. This red dye all over my face, chest and hands is from a Sharpie that leaked in my shirt pocket.

  25. It doesn’t matter if it’s the 1-12 bengals or who their next opponent was.. this just happened to be the week they got caught. You plain ignorant not to think that guy hasn’t been filming at every game already this year.

  26. If the Pats are found to be in violation, I have a reasonable penalty. Move them in to the #6 seed and let everyone else move up a notch. Let the Pats experience the joy of trying to make the SB by winning 3 games on the road. It’s been done, by supposedly lesser teams than the Patriots and lesser coaches. Let’s see the Goat QB and coach pull it off…

  27. As a Saints fan, I would love to see the commish drop the hammer like he did against my Saints. Over the span when Greg William’s was our DC, our defence was 1 of the least personal fouled teams. As for the speech William’s said, if a player has a previous injury, that is a weakness. And the whole purpose of strategy, attack the weak point. I am sure there are going to be many who disagree with me, and that is ok. Look up the defensive penalties during Greg William’s stint as DC. The numbers do not lie

  28. As a Saints fan, I would love to see the commish drop the hammer like he did against my Saints. Over the span when Greg William’s was our DC, our defence was 1 of the least personal fouled teams. As for the speech William’s said, if a player has a previous injury, that is a weakness. And the whole purpose of strategy, attack the weak point. I am sure there are going to be many who disagree with me, and that is ok. Look up the defensive penalties during Greg William’s stint as DC. The numbers do not lie.

  29. ds34952 says:
    December 15, 2019 at 1:12 pm
    Someone please explain to me what was on the tape that couldn’t be seen on the “All 22” film of the game.

    12 6 Rate This

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    they won’t answer that

  30. The more Tom gets older and older, the more than team needs to do this to keep winning.

    They have won a lot of championships but they have been caught cheating several times during this time. Once a cheater always a cheater and you know they cheated a lot more than the times they got caught.

    Yeah you guys have rings, but there’s an asterisk and a bad reputation to go with them.

  31. I’m sure he would’ve deleted even if he didn’t get caught. The organization is full of integrity starting with the owner on down.

  32. jfootball says:
    December 15, 2019 at 1:41 pm
    of course he did cuz he knew he was caught red-handed

    22 4

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    How does
    one get “caught” out in the open?

  33. cobralala2, there is no “finally” with catching their endless cheating on film; Goodell openly acknowledged that he destroyed video evidence of their cheating “in the best interest of the league,” (i.e.; owners’ profits) back in 2001 when they filmed the Rams’ walk through before the Super Bowl.

  34. Even when caught red handed, they still think they can manipulate and coerce others to destroy the evidence.
    Once again proving that they think they are so smart and everybody else is so Dumb.

  35. hawkkiller says:
    December 15, 2019 at 12:56 pm
    I’d be more inclined to believe that the Patriots were purposely trying to cheat & gain some sort of advantage via shady practices if they were not playing THE 1-12 Cinci Bengals.
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    That could be the case. The problem is the Patriots’ reputation. That is two-fold. First, they were disciplined for something similar before. Second, and most important, the Patriots have a reputation for being thorough and for not taking anything for granted. They simply do not fall victim to trap games. You can point to some Miami games but those are division games with ample evidence of Pats/Brady struggling at Miami. This year despite their record the offense is visibly off from what we typically expect. Cincy’s record is bad but they have played better lately. All it takes is a competent game from the QB and their defense and this game could easily be close. Added to the reputation stuff, the excuse given does not match what is on the video. The advance scout is not on the footage. The video may seem innocuous to us but we have no idea what to specifically look for when it comes to Bengals’ sideline communications. I have defended the Patriots from all the trolls incessantly bringing up stuff out of context and I’d like to give them the benefit of the doubt here, but I can’t. Too many wisps of smoke have collected to assume there is simply no fire again.

  36. getyourownname says:
    December 15, 2019 at 1:04 pm
    Imagine the situation were reversed and the Bengals were found taping the Pats after the Bengals had previously been found to have acted improperly.

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    The NFL would have either buried this completely, like when the Jets were caught tampering with footballs, or issued a statement on Monday that this was a simple misunderstanding and the issue is closed.

  37. mattcro0172 says:
    December 15, 2019 at 12:58 pm
    There is clearly nothing to this, guy offered to delete it because the Bengals were over blowing it. Those were not close ups. You wouldn’t film signals from behind. This whole thing is a joke.

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    You also can’t film signals sent in via radio. Sadly, a lot of people, including the Bengals, believe you can.

  38. Stupidity? Yes.
    Cheating? No.

    Only people who are envious of Belichick’s success and brilliance are quick to cry and scream the cheater nonsense.

    Those screaming cheater are reminiscent of the kids in childhood who did the same whenever they didn’t win. Enough already.

  39. foodiefoodnerd says:
    December 15, 2019 at 4:07 pm
    cobralala2, there is no “finally” with catching their endless cheating on film; Goodell openly acknowledged that he destroyed video evidence of their cheating “in the best interest of the league,” (i.e.; owners’ profits) back in 2001 when they filmed the Rams’ walk through before the Super Bowl.

    Ok, you realize that was a false story that was retracted, right? You prove the point that every Pats fan makes on this site. Blindly believing what ESPN or these other outlets spin as “truth” is why there is such negative sentiment. There isn’t anything on this tape. Personally, I would wonder why it is that the Bengals security person is video recording this, too. That smells of a setup.

    At the end of the day, most of these X-gates in the NFL are garbage. People spend more time groaning and angsting over this than they do over Tyreek Hill continuing to play in this league even though he’s a serial abuser. They should get fined, because contractor or not, they are responsible for them. Anything more than an a fine to the organization and maybe one to Kraft individually as the owner would be too much.

  40. cletusvandam says:
    December 15, 2019 at 12:40 pm

    So I watched the video. What exactly am I seeing?
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    A team breaking the rules…

    Basically substitutions as to who is going in and out of the game for different defensive situations. It is illegal period.

  41. mediasloppy says:
    December 15, 2019 at 5:00 pm

    Basically substitutions as to who is going in and out of the game for different defensive situations. It is illegal period.
    ========================

    You can see player substitutions on the network broadcast. Is that illegal? Is recording an NFL game on your DVR illegal? By your line of thinking, millions of people are going to be in a lot of trouble.

  42. “The damage is done,” the Bengals representative then says.

    Errr… the “damage” would only happen if the Pats football people had the opportunity to view the recording. The videographer is offering to delete the video immediately to assure you that won’t happen. The Bengals security guy comes off as a jerk who is trying to push his own narrative here.
    “Yeah, I don’t see the advance scout in any of this video they’re shooting” – Duh. They JUST TOLD YOU that the footage was not intended to have the scout in it.

  43. tylawspick6 says:
    December 15, 2019 at 3:34 pm
    How does
    one get “caught” out in the open?
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    Ahhhh…. the standard Kraft/Trump/Stone defense reply.

    Seems legit

  44. tylawspick6 says:
    December 15, 2019 at 2:22 pm
    ds34952 says:
    December 15, 2019 at 1:12 pm
    Someone please explain to me what was on the tape that couldn’t be seen on the “All 22” film of the game.

    12 6 Rate This

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    they won’t answer that
    ________
    I will.
    You didn’t see all of the 8 minutes.
    The part you seen was only shown to get the audio of them confronting the cheat.
    Not to hard to figure out.

  45. This was the Bengals’ Super Bowl- hoping that New England would resort to cheating to beat them. The scandal was a fake one. The Pats are struggling to put points on the board, but they could bludgeon the Bengals with thier eyes closed. Next time we will give Cincy film of the Patriots sideline and see if they can do any better…

  46. Its illegal, because NO VIDEO recording is allowed, if one of us were to sit up in a press box record audio to our phone of what we saw each play down and distance and the motions they were making, and we are able to crack the code, its all good, because when the radio to the helmet gets cut off, you rely on those hand signals going in.

    Taping it is illegal and extremely LAME.

  47. if you ask the Patriots they have never done anything wrong ever…they will never admit to any wrong doing…its way past the point of comical…

  48. GASP!!! The Bengals priceless secrets to football success may have been comprimised!!!

    One thing is clear: The Pats have some real morons in management positions.

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